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I thank you, my good Sir and my most learned friend. — 99801155KC9TV (talk) 18:53, 1 May 2012 (UTC) |
- You're quite welcome! Wikipelli Talk 19:21, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
New Pages update
Hey Wikipelli/Archive 9 :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.
On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).
On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:26, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Copyeditor's Barnstar |
For doing some copyediting on Louisiana Highway 593! Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 16:19, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
- Also, the italics were my stupid error, won't do it again. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 16:20, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Dragon Ball Hoshi
I noticed there hasn't been an article of this made yet, I sure there will be one made sometime soon. I bring it up because a lot of people are spreading rumors about it being an actual anime instead of what it really is; simply a new arcade game released in Japan...well not entirely new persay, but still, just wanted to tell you about it since my page creating skills are that of mud ^^'
- Click...If you dare! o,0` (talk) 06:40, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- I guess I'm unclear about what your message means. I'm slow sometimes. Wikipelli Talk 22:02, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, I saw your helpful additions to an article I started.
Hello, can you tell me how to make the additions you made to the article I started? I do not know where to find instructions on how to add lines and headings to an article or how to create a reference list. Thanks for the additions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abgaila (talk • contribs) 22:14, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Abgaila! I saw the article was up for deletion. I really dislike it when articles are tagged for deletion literally within seconds of their creation. It may still be deleted (there will be discussion and a consensus will be reached. You can participate if you follow the link in the banner at the top of the page).
- I am a school teacher, also, so your article caught my eye. The main thing to do now is copy/edit and make it organized. Also, reliable, 3rd party references will need to be found to establish that the school is notable. A general rule of thumb with high schools is that they are given articles. I think this one qualifies.
- I think a good place to start would be this page. I has tips and guides for creating an article. From that page there are a number of links that will take you to sections that interest you (organization, formatting, etc.).
- If I can be of any more help, please don't hesitate to let me know! Wikipelli Talk 22:32, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I am not sure how to respond to a post on my page, so here is my post
Thanks for the input and I really appreciate your help with making the article Wikipedia worthy. It seemed harsh that one of the members tagged it for deletion at the same moment I was writing it. I will try to increase the quality so it is not deleted.Abgaila (talk) 01:03, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- It's all good. I watch your page and this page so I'll see a message if you leave it. Yes, I agree, the deletion tag was way out of line less than 60 seconds after you put the article up there. The editor couldn't possibly have had time to read and think about whether or not the article was appropriate. That's unfortunate. Don't let it discourage you! Let me know if I can help. I'll keep an eye on the article, too. :) Wikipelli Talk 01:14, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Response to Neutrality
Wikipelli, thank you for the advice. I will try to remain neutral. By the way, how do I respond to a message left on my page? I did not find any link that would allow me to do that. Abgaila (talk) 03:13, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- All you have to do to respond is to click the "Edit" link on the section that contains the message you wish to respond to. Alternatively, you can click the "Edit" tab at the top of your talk page and then scroll to where you wish to reply. :) Wikipelli Talk 12:33, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- I have noticed that when I add an existing reference to a different part of the article, it re-lists the reference in the reference list and re-numbers the internal citation instead of using the same number and leaving the reference list alone. Is this supposed to happen? Also, is there a page that instructs people on how to add an image? There are several images of the buildings I would like to add to the Wikibox but it seems to me I have to save the image somewhere or link it. Abgaila (talk) 17:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- Yes! Actually, I fixed a couple of those within the last few minutes and could kick myself for not doing it right in the first place!
- I have noticed that when I add an existing reference to a different part of the article, it re-lists the reference in the reference list and re-numbers the internal citation instead of using the same number and leaving the reference list alone. Is this supposed to happen? Also, is there a page that instructs people on how to add an image? There are several images of the buildings I would like to add to the Wikibox but it seems to me I have to save the image somewhere or link it. Abgaila (talk) 17:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- When you add a reference, it's a good practice to give the reference a name (at the bottom of the reference box). So, the reference " Smith, Cassie (10 January 2010). "Teaching God's love". The Bryan-College Station Eagle. Retrieved 10 May 2012.", I have now given the name "teaching". It's good practice and I was sloppy yesterday. Anyway, the code is like, <ref name="teaching"><cite web.... etc etc></ref>. This way, now that the reference has a name, you can just use that name the next time you want to use the reference. The next time you want to use that reference you can click on "Named References" in the edit box and it'll show a list of references you've named. The code in the article will be, <ref name=teaching />. Simple, huh? :) You want to name the references something descriptive so you'll be able to remember which reference is which. I'll go through and name the references now. Here's the Wikipedia page on it: WP:NAMEDREFS
- Images that you want to use in the article should be uploaded using the "Upload File" link in the Toolbox on the left side of the screen. Since Wikipedia needs to be very careful about copyright, take your time and read all the instructions and information as it guides you through the process! Wikipelli Talk 17:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- (or rather, I will when you're done editing. :) We're conflicting. I'll wait!) Wikipelli Talk 18:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- I have a question about neutrality and third-party references. I found two articles in a local magazine that mentions Still Creek recieved donations from an event (The Armadillo Dash) and an organizaion (the Bubba Moore Memiorial Group). Since the school was mentioned in a third-party source, I want to include the information in the references. However, can I mention the names of the donor organizations without being flagged for non-neutrality?128.194.192.133 (talk) 19:20, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- Whoops, I forgot to sign my name. 128.194.192.133 (talk) 19:30, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- Abgaila (talk) 19:31, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- That's not a problem at all - especially since they were mentioned in the source. I would say, though, that it's not necessary to put all of the donors, events, etc. in the article. Remember that it's about the school, and not about the donors! :) I think it's established that the school is supported through fundraisers, donations, etc. Wikipelli Talk 19:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- I have a question about neutrality and third-party references. I found two articles in a local magazine that mentions Still Creek recieved donations from an event (The Armadillo Dash) and an organizaion (the Bubba Moore Memiorial Group). Since the school was mentioned in a third-party source, I want to include the information in the references. However, can I mention the names of the donor organizations without being flagged for non-neutrality?128.194.192.133 (talk) 19:20, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
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The Civility Barnstar |
Your actions here and here are marvelous. New editors aren't meant to be bitten – and your kindness proves that. →Bmusician 13:12, 12 May 2012 (UTC) |
Thanks very much! I really appreciate that. I'm becoming increasingly irritated with the 'swat them like flies' approaches some are taking with CSD. The unfortunate thing is that the article in question was deleted WHILE I was fixing the copy/vio. :( When I clicked save I got the message "this page has been deleted"... NOT the way to keep new editors. Anyway, thanks! maybe next time I'll beat the clock. Wikipelli Talk 13:22, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- If that happens to me I would just confirm the save, and continue. If you were scrapping a copyright vio, then what you put in did not need a history. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:36, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm Live and learn... I sort of thought it became a dead issue. Very frustrating, though. Thanks for the tip! Wikipelli Talk 13:38, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Looking for feedback on some standard wording
I appreciate the work you are doing to encourage new editors. I understand how discouraging it must be to attempt to write an article and see it yanked away while you are working on it.
However, I am stunned that you thought there was anything to salvage in Gefs Online Flight Simulator. I double-checked and it was a word for word copy.
I do run acorns people who think that is a good way to start. I'll copy below my standard advice; I'd be interested in your feedback, as you have experience with new editors, and I would like to know if you think it strikes the right tone:
However, it is my opinion that the results constitute a Close paraphrasing of the original. I've found that if I copy and paste the material, and try to rewrite it, that it still ends up too close to the original. A better approach is to find more than one source (always desirable), then, put them aside, and write about the subject in one's own words. After writing, return to the original text, and determine whether it is too close (if you have a better memory than I do), or if some points would be better made by an explicit quote and attribution, with the quote suitably short.
--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:17, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think this is an excellent tone and, you're right, the GEFS article was probably lost from the beginning. My goal on that article, though, was not to save it because I thought it was worthy, but to use it with the new editor to illustrate what was wrong and how to correct it. I don't think I'd have done as well as you did here, but my sympathies go out to new, misguided authors. Your approach above is excellent and I'll probably shamelessly 'borrow' it. I appreciate the conversation... thanks! Wikipelli Talk 15:04, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Apology
I am here to say sorry for everything you have noticed I have done wrong. I've been doing things wrong like WP:FAST, and just being a general WP:DICK. Although my CSD log is quite good, I see what you are saying, which is WP:FAST. I wrote a boring statement, which outlines my bad. I also set up recall criteria if I do gain tools/permissions in the near future. Please, consider this my apology. Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 19:38, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- You really don't owe me an apology at all. I'm not in charge and you haven't hurt me a bit (maybe some newbie editors, though). All I'm saying - and I'll I've ever said - is slow down and do things well rather than doing them fast. For all the times I've said it - here and on your talk page - you don't seem to have taken it to heart. Case in point? I read all of the link above (WP:FAST) and can't see what in the world it has to do with this issue. Can you? I'm willing to bet you meant something like this: wp:deadline. Give it a read. 3 times. slowly. :) Wikipelli Talk 19:55, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- I particually think that 1 and 5 apply for me. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 19:57, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I could be grumpy and say #2 does, also, but it's a nice day and I won't. ;) I think it's a great essay to print and hang on the wall by the computer! Not all the text, but maybe just the 5 individual points. You can take a look at it each time you sit down to edit!
- I particually think that 1 and 5 apply for me. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 19:57, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think you really want to be an administrator, Tomtom... which in itself is a little wrong because the goal is to make an encyclopedia, but, be that as it may, if you really want that then read through RfAs (I know you do anyway). The RfA is going to have editors that will look at the DYKs and GAs and CSD log to be sure, but they're also going to look at failed DYKs, poorly written articles, warnings for too speedy deletions... I guess what i'm trying to impress on you is that at the same time you're building up a semi-respectable log, you're building up a list of errors as well. All because of your rush for the mop (or whatever is motivating you).
- As I said, it's a nice day and I'm going to go enjoy it but I'll leave with this question... I've been watching the progress on the thorium thing on the moon (sorry, the title escapes me).. and I know you're salivating over getting a GA for it but tell me, honestly, don't you feel much better about that article that you've put time and effort into improving than the Joe Rosentover article? or the Acorn Nursery School article? or all those Louisiana highway articles? I'm hoping that you do and that you'll come to see the value of making a good article rather than 11,000 crappy ones. :) Enjoy your evening! Wikipelli Talk 20:13, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- I just want to do the best I can. I feel very good about the CBTA (redirect per long name) article, and I want all of my newer creations up to that standard. I will come to see the value of it, and will expand until the best it can get, which is featured.
- This leaves me with a question. For the Chapelfield article, a large shopping center, should there be an article for List of Shops in Chapelfield? There is around 90 of them. Thanks anyway! Enjoy your evening too, Wikipelli! --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 20:21, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Gonna let you make the call on that one... :) What I would do? I'd check other shopping mall articles in WP and see what they have. Then, I'd consider whether I personally think it would enhance the article (create it in a sandbox and see what you think), then, just be bold and do it (or not)! Think... the article is about the mall... and what is a mall? A collection of stores.... :) Wikipelli Talk 20:25, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- This leaves me with a question. For the Chapelfield article, a large shopping center, should there be an article for List of Shops in Chapelfield? There is around 90 of them. Thanks anyway! Enjoy your evening too, Wikipelli! --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 20:21, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Idea: before I think, I will see if I can expand the article fivefold. If not, it's a no. If yes, then it's a maybe. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 20:29, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Why? Wikipelli Talk 20:30, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Currently, it's very short. It shows no signs of it's true notability, other than winning an award. If I could list 90 shops in the article, that would be better, and show more significance. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 20:31, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Even better, my goal is for it to look like this. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 20:33, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sigh... shaking head... never mind, Tomtom..I know why you want to expand five-fold. Do what you want. Go collect your shiny pins.
- That's an hour of my life I'll never get back. :( Wikipelli Talk 20:38, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not for DYK. That thing would never be able to pass – there would never be a good enough hook for it to be on the main page. Fivefold is a goal for that, as my current article goal is 15K bytes per article, which fivefold seems to be for that. My goal is GA for it, not DYK. DYK is not for
rubbishthings like that, it's for almost unknown things; not a mall built in 2005. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 20:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not for DYK. That thing would never be able to pass – there would never be a good enough hook for it to be on the main page. Fivefold is a goal for that, as my current article goal is 15K bytes per article, which fivefold seems to be for that. My goal is GA for it, not DYK. DYK is not for
- Three thoughts. First, "lists of" things are well worth staying away from. Just go and look at all the "list of bus routes in XXXX" anger and frustration and blood and sweat and tears and AfDs to get an idea why. Second, sheer number of something-or-other (shops or legs or iTunes downloads) is not enough to establish notability. The only thing that truly establishes notability is significant coverage in independent reliable sources. So, don't look how many shops there are, just look up your sources. How many good sources are there, and how much real coverage do they give to the topic?
- Third, reading old RfAs is a really good idea. But read them properly; from the top down. When you see an interesting question, look at the candidate's answer, and decide whether you agree with it. Only once you've decided that for all the questions, go and look at the Opposes. Do the Opposers follow your opinion or not? It takes a very long time to understand what a lot of all this nonsense is about :)
- Wikipelli, I've left an absurdly long reply for you on my talk page. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:00, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
New Page Triage prototype released
Hey Wikipelli! We've finally finished the NPT prototype and deployed it on enwiki. We'll be holding an office hours session on the 16th at 21:00 in #wikimedia-office to show it off, get feedback and plot future developments - hope to see you there! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:33, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Jacob L. Beilhart
The article Jacob L. Beilhart you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Jacob L. Beilhart for things which need to be addressed. GoPTCN 11:02, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! I'll have a look today. I have been watching the edits you've made and I appreciate them. Wikipelli Talk 11:05, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Jacob L. Beilhart
The article Jacob L. Beilhart you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Jacob L. Beilhart for comments about the article. Well done! There is a backlog of articles waiting for review, why not help out and review a nominated article yourself? GoPTCN 20:15, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! Wikipelli Talk 20:27, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Re: Summary revision
Hi Wikipelli. Please check again the Z for Zachariah plot summary and either remove the tags about needed editing or explain why further shortening is necessary. Some other plot summaries are similar in length, as for Wuthering Heights and Gulliver's Travels for example. If the article is tagged for improvement, maybe the tag should ask for added sections on analysis rather than revision. Thanks. --Seoulseeker (talk) 08:46, 17 May 2012 (UTC)— • contribs)
Adele
Although I was a regular contributor to the article I have been pretty much away from it for awhile and don't know who did what. My impressions of the article now compared to the way it was including a negative one about the links are on his talk page. Plus I made a few date order revisions. Edkollin (talk) 21:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- As I said, take or leave my comments. I see that you did the bulk of the editing and I'm personally a little averse to others trolling for articles to nominate for GA who are really not vested. That's just me... not policy or anything... If you do nominate it, good luck! In any event, have a great day! Wikipelli Talk 21:32, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
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Rascher
Greetings Wikipelli, How are things going for you? School is over and summer vacation has begun.Great! I have recieved lots of citations and other information for some very interesting links. Would it be possible to send you all that information as an attachment in an email? Do you have an account/ address here at Wikipedia? I am hesitant to enter anything on the site myself, my knowledge of the proceedure is simply too limited. I would really love to have it as perfect as possible. Thank you so much. What can I do if people simply add their names to the list of my fathers former students that now hold a higher position i.e. professor at a university or music academy? I have never heard their names!! If anyone, I would know. My email is: carinarascher@t-online.de. Have a wonderful weekend, With best wishes, Carina Rascher — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kattamaki (talk • contribs) 07:22, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Carina! I hope you are well! Summer vacation for me won't start for another 2 weeks, then, I'm off to Africa for a month! You can certainly send me email. If you are at my page on wikipedia, you will see a link on the left that says, "E-mail this user". Click that and it will begin an email message to me. Please feel free.
- Regarding people that put their names on the list... Any editor that disputes the information added can request that a citation be given so as to verify the information. The information can be removed and discussed on the article's talk page, also. Wikipelli Talk 11:59, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Travelers Hotel (East Liverpool, Ohio)
![]() | On 25 May 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Travelers Hotel (East Liverpool, Ohio), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that during the hunt for Pretty Boy Floyd, FBI special agent Melvin Purvis used the Travelers Hotel in East Liverpool, Ohio, as his headquarters? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Travelers Hotel (East Liverpool, Ohio).You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Yngvadottir (talk) 16:06, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thanks for all of the improvements and edits you have done on the 2011 Virginia earthquake article. Clarkcj12 (talk) 16:22, 25 May 2012 (UTC) |
- Thanks! :) Wikipelli Talk 16:24, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- Your welcome and keep up the great work.--Clarkcj12 (talk) 16:28, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Kenmore (Spotsylvania County, Virginia)
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DYK for Oakley (Spotsylvania County, Virginia)
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The DYK project (nominate) 16:06, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
autopatrolled given to people who're not responsible
I think we might be fighting a bit of a lost war here. This guy TAP is obviously irresponsible, and I don't understand how no one else sees it. About a month ago there was a similar situation with Jaguar, who created almost 10,000 stubs with multiples issues and ignored all the warnings people left him for months. And in the end nothing happened. No mass deletion, no ban, no policy change, nothing.
I think a policy along the lines of what you suggested, such as "no mass creation of stubs before you have AP" would make sense.
I also think the page listing wikipedians by number of articles created should be removed, as it's very dangerous. People like TAP and Jaguar don't care about the encyclopedia, they only create these tens of thousands of stubs because they want to go up in the ranking. What happened about a month ago was that TAP saw Jaguar doing it and he wanted to start doing it. I don't see the point of having that stupid ranking. It only encourages people like Jaguar and TAP to create stubs with errors that do more damage than good because they don't add any information and they introduce errors that then other people have to go and fix by the thousands. And serious contributors don't care about the ranking because they know it's meaningless. So why have it.
Anyway, just some thoughts.
Cheers,
Azylber (talk) 22:46, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- Of course the ranking is meaningless! I'm trying to do what the goal of the Encyclopedia is - article on everything notable. "irresponsible" - Over about 3 stubs which I regret and have changed since. "multiple issues" - have you seen my most recent articles, all 1100+ of them? Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 23:04, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- TAP, I suggest you disengage from this thread, as it's probably not a great place for you to be continuing it. (But I might indulge myself, when I have a little more time...)
- Azylber, I suggest that you re-read WP:AGF and WP:NPA, and also consider that if you feel you are "fighting... a war" and your aims are "bans and policy changes", then you may have lost your way on Wikipedia a little. (See WP:BATTLEGROUND).
- As TAP's mentor I'm slightly better informed on the background, which tells me that "TAP saw Jaguar doing it and he wanted to start doing it" is way, way off the mark, and a very foolish assumption to throw around. TAP does have constructive input from a number of editors very experienced in particular topic areas (Anna and Blofeld are two, but others are involved as well), and he has demonstrated an ability to learn from them and edit constructively and beneficially.
- Once again, the autopatrolled right (which is what seems to have prompted this outburst of yours) is for the benefit of patrollers (and thereby the encyclopedia), not for the purpose of a "war" engaged in by yourself or others who want to constantly revisit TAP's past, current, or perceived faults. (If your problem is actually with the table/page you mention, then by all means nominate it for deletion - I don't see it as particularly useful.)
- You should think about that carefully, and seriously consider striking some of your comments above. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Andrews Tavern (Spotsylvania County, Virginia)
![]() | On 8 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Andrews Tavern (Spotsylvania County, Virginia), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that during his ownership of Andrews Tavern (pictured), Samuel Andrews served as postmaster for the governments of both the Confederate States of America and the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Andrews Tavern (Spotsylvania County, Virginia). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:05, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Spiritual Crutch
Get rid of Roman Catholic editing Helpsortabout (talk) 17:10, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, it's the encyclopedia anyone can edit, until they do too much non-neutral editing. Just sayin'. Wikipelli Talk 17:12, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
You obviously know fuckall Helpsortabout (talk) 17:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- <sigh>.. tried to warn you. Wikipelli Talk 17:19, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- User:fuckall has not edited since 2005, which is before Wikipelli even had an account. I therefore don't see the connection :) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:06, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Walnut Grove (Spotsylvania County, Virginia)
![]() | On 11 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Walnut Grove (Spotsylvania County, Virginia), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that exposed oak beams in the plantation house at Walnut Grove reveal Roman numerals marking where joists are to be attached? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Walnut Grove (Spotsylvania County, Virginia). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Orlady (talk) 00:07, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
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DYK nomination of Fredericksburg Dog Mart
Hello! Your submission of Fredericksburg Dog Mart at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Ruby 2010/2013 02:50, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- responded at nom page. Wikipelli Talk 04:29, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Massaponax Baptist Church
![]() | On 16 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Massaponax Baptist Church, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that General Ulysses S. Grant held an outdoor council of war with his top generals on pews taken from the Massaponax Baptist Church? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Massaponax Baptist Church. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Fredericksburg Dog Mart
![]() | On 17 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fredericksburg Dog Mart, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that, having first occurred in 1698, the Fredericksburg Dog Mart is the oldest dog show in the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fredericksburg Dog Mart. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:05, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Fall Hill (Spotsylvania County, Virginia)
![]() | On 18 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fall Hill (Spotsylvania County, Virginia), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that during the Civil War, General Robert E. Lee ordered the destruction of the mansion at Fall Hill (pictured) because it blocked his view of advancing Union Army troops? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fall Hill (Spotsylvania County, Virginia). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Walker-Grant School (Fredericksburg, Virginia)
![]() | On 18 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Walker-Grant School (Fredericksburg, Virginia), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Walker-Grant School was the first public high school for black students in Fredericksburg, Virginia? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Walker-Grant School (Fredericksburg, Virginia). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Fredericksburg DYKs
I just wanted to thank you for your great work on Fredericksburg articles. I noticed it today when both Fall Hill (Spotsylvania County, Virginia) and Walker–Grant School were on DYK, and saw in the histories that both articles were largely your work. I was born and raised in Fredericksburg, and my family still lives there; in fact, I attended Walker–Grant and knew Butler Franklin, the late doyenne of Fall Hill. If you're working on NRHP properties in Fredericksburg, you may be interested to know that my family has owned the Rowe House on Hanover St. since its construction, and though it has been mostly empty since my grandmother died in 2003, my sister just moved into a small part of the house, and renovations should begin next month. If you ever want to create an article on the house, I may be able to help you (I'd refrained on creating a page myself due to the COI policy).
Anyway, it's good to see solid articles on Fredericksburg history. Thanks for your work. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 02:30, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your message! I got started on Columbiana County, Ohio NRHPs and then Spotsylvania NRHP properties (I live in Spotsy) and, when those were largely finished, I started on Fredericksburg. I'm embarrassed to say that I've lived here nearly 30 years and haven't visited or taken the time to investigate many of the places (rather like New Yorkers never visiting the Statue of Liberty, I guess!). I really have enjoyed working on the articles. Please feel free to steer me in the right direction if/when you see errors! Thanks again! Wikipelli Talk 02:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, and I started an article on Rowe House (in my user space) this morning. :) I'm going to Africa on Thursday for a couple of weeks, though, so I don't think I'll get it out there before I return. Too many things to do to get ready! Wikipelli Talk 11:31, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Africa? My niece (the daughter of the sister now living in the Rowe House) is currently in Senegal, working for the Peace Corps. Small world! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 14:28, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- VERY small! My daughter is in Namibia in the Peace Corps! That's why we're going. Interesting! Wikipelli Talk 15:04, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- How many PCVs are there from the Fredericksburg area? Can't be too many. My niece is Mary Cadwallender. Your daughter might have met her during training or at some pan-African PCV event, or not, but you can mention the name. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 21:40, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- VERY small! My daughter is in Namibia in the Peace Corps! That's why we're going. Interesting! Wikipelli Talk 15:04, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Africa? My niece (the daughter of the sister now living in the Rowe House) is currently in Senegal, working for the Peace Corps. Small world! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 14:28, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, and I started an article on Rowe House (in my user space) this morning. :) I'm going to Africa on Thursday for a couple of weeks, though, so I don't think I'll get it out there before I return. Too many things to do to get ready! Wikipelli Talk 11:31, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Matthew Fontaine Maury School
![]() | On 19 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Matthew Fontaine Maury School, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the stadium at the Maury School in Fredericksburg, Virginia, was home to the annual Fredericksburg Dog Mart, which began in 1698? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Matthew Fontaine Maury School. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Yngvadottir (talk) 00:03, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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![]() | On 23 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Chimneys (Fredericksburg, Virginia), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that The Chimneys' roof framing utilizes techniques common in the construction of ships' hulls at the time it was built in 1771? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Chimneys (Fredericksburg, Virginia). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:30, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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Topicon Error
Hi Wikipelli! I noticed that [I think] you have an error in one of your topicons, as it links to Fall Hill (Fredericksburg, Virginia), which seems to not exist. I'm not sure what this is meant to link to, but I'm guessing Fall Hill? Thanks! ⇒TAP 08:04, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
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