User talk:Wiki ian/Archive1

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Welcome

Hello, Wiki ian/Archive1, and welcome to Wikipedia! I am Deepu Joseph. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK}

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Star Fleet Battle Group Omega

In the above discussion, you voted "keep per nom". I wanted to let you know that "Keep per nom" is completely meaningless. "Per nom" means "for the same reason that the nominator had". The nominator is asking for deletion, so agreeing with his reasons would mean you want the page deleted. Please review this discussion and amend your vote accordingly.

Additionally, I would like to recommend that you submit articles like this to Memory Alpha, a wiki dedicated to Star Trek fan material. Stifle (talk) 21:07, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Who do you ask to put a link to memory Alpha on the main page or something so its easier to locate for computer illiterates. Wiki ian 07:47, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

It's at http://memory-alpha.org, and it won't be linked from the main page as it is not a Wikimedia project. But if you insist on asking, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard is probably the best place. The site is also linked from its Wikipedia page, Memory Alpha (initial capitals). Stifle (talk) 09:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Notability

Please keep in mind that articles have to pass a certain standard of notability. Starships that were only mentioned in a sentence of dialogue or only appeared on screen for a few seconds are not notable. AlistairMcMillan 15:48, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Star Fleet Battle Group Omega

I'm genuinely sorry your first experience with Wikipedia has been negative.

Your page was deleted, by another editor I hasten to point out, after the required five days, as the consensus on [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Star Fleet Battle Group Omega was quite clear. Eight votes to delete, three to keep and only two to merge or redirect. Also I'm sorry but content is changing constantly on Wikipedia, there simply isn't time to notify editors when their contributions are edited or removed.

I made my reasons clear why I thought it should be deleted on that page. That battle group was only mentioned very briefly in dialogue. It never appeared on screen except for that brief ship listing in the screenshot you provided. Even if the battle group had appeared on screen, it isn't likely it would have survived a deletion vote. There are websites dedicated to Star Trek minutiae like this, Wikipedia isn't one of them.

If you re-create the page, it will likely again be nominated for deletion and likely again deleted.

Please read Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) to find an understanding of what is judged notable here. AlistairMcMillan 18:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

First edit

To find the date and time of your first edit on wikipedia, just hop over to this site, key in your username and select enwiki_p from the drop down list. Select "Go" and you should have the data on your screen. Hope this helps. In case of any difficulties, just drop me a note. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK} 09:35, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Glad you could find it. In case you want to check out other such templates, see Category:User templates. Cheerios! -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK} 14:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

SECOND EDIT

Joseph, thankyou for all all your help on my requests. i have 3 more questions i hope you can answer for me. 1. Where is the Wikipedia help page on constructing a Sidebar for things like Cities, bands, and albums? 2. What are the factors involved, in getting contents bars on pages that are constructed(or is it just automatic)? 3. On most album pages in Wikipedia i visit, they have profssional reviews (with 5 star ratings) in their side bars, how would one go about researching professional reviews for the sidebar of the desired album i wish to create? Once again thankyou.
Wiki ian 09:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

My reply:

For cities in Australia, the general convention is to use the Infobox Australian City template. Check out this page for some examples on how they are used.
A contents section gets made automatically in the article when you make a new subsection, provided the page is longer than the normal screen size. To make a new subsection, simply type:
==Your title here==
Your text here
Once the text overflows the screen and the scroll bars become visible along the sides, you should be able to see the contents box automatically pop up. I hope I didnt make that sound confusing. In simpler terms, ya, it comes automatically. :P
About the album stuff, your question is not clear to me. Could you elaborate a bit, perhaps show me an example?

-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK} 10:25, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

replying to your request for more information on my 3rd question. If you look on one of the bottom tabs of album sidebars like Jar of Flies and Wolfmother (album) you see professional comments rating the albums 1 out of 5 stars.In my case i can find reviews but nothing that actually rates 1 out of 5. is there an alternative to displaying the 5 star format? if so what is it? if not where is the best place to look for reviews with such ratings? Cheers Wiki ian 10:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, wiki ian. Take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums, especially the "Professional reviews" section. The Dirt album given there as an example shows the different wasys you can link to the review. Also see the External links section where links to professional reviews are found. Hope this helps! -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK} 11:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello again my friend, can you take a look at New Detention and tell me what i've done wrong with the sidebar, i cant seem to get the alternative cover under the sidebar. Or is more information needed on the page before it will move under the main infobox? Cheers mate. Wiki ian 05:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Happy to see you figuted it out. I found this page just today, and thought maybe you'd like to check it out: WP:SIG. It might help with your earlier question.-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK} 08:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

THIRD EDIT

Joseph, once again thankyou for all your assistance with Wikipedia. I hope i am not bothering you asking your help on such topics. i have 2 more questions.
1 on user talk pages and discussion pages i notice next to their signiture it sais in brackets (talk) and sometimes (talk|contributions), what do i type to make these appear in my signiture(as all i do at the moment is cut and paste from examples).
2 The more of Wikipedia I explore the more i see examples of advanced editing, and the only way i know how to replicate them is cut & paste, is there a help section on advanced editing within Wikipedia. example, your signiture has different fonts and font colours, how do learn things like this without having to ask you all the time.
Thankyou for all of your time. Wiki ian 00:56, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

See Template talk:User for the low down on various self referencing templates used on wikipedia. You can create a custom signature like mine by creating it on a page like User:Wiki ian/sig, and then using {{subst:user:Wiki ian/sig}} instead of the usual ~~~~ that is used to sign.
Most advanced formating that you see, are created using either HTML or CSS. See Help:Editing, and the links on the right pane for some general tips. The colours in my signature are created using HTML. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK} 17:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

HM Prison Risdon

Thanks for the image of the prison. I'm impressed your image arrived only a few days after my request. Well done. -- Longhair 21:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:Hobart suburbs

Hi Ian, thanks for making the Hobart suburbs navbox. Just a couple of questions - there are some I'm not sure about:

I don't think places like New Norfolk, Richmond or Margate really count as parts of Hobart
Kingborough is a municipality, not a suburb or town in itself
I have never heard of a place called Springfield in or near Hobart!

-- Chuq 09:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

G'day chuq,

first may i just thankyou for asking me first, rather than deleting first, which seems to be a commen practice on Wikipedia. I have the answers to all your questions.

I am only an amature at the navigation userboxes, pherhaps if you would show me how i could put the suburbs of each council into their relevant section, however this was created as a "greater area of Hobart" and not in a city by city sence(once again only due to my lack of userbox knowledge), so therefor in the sence of the greater are of Hobart yes i would count those..... Doesn't Metro buses travel as far north as Bothwell? if so, could you not count that town as part of the greater area of Hobart aswell? I counted Glenorchy and new norfolk because they both localities, Clarence is the name of a council.

i am not familiar with the Kingborough area, but i knew a kingborough stadium near the cemetary exists so i assumed it was a locality.

My mother grew up in Springfield. The bus interchange near the new Clive Peters Store is the south eastern boundry, which is why its called Sprinfield exchange. It is more a large suburb that stretches beyind, becasue the mcdonalds near by is considered Moonah and the Carlyle just to the North is Derwent park.

Any queries please contact me, If you're not happy with my reason to include Kingborough please feel free to delete it, as i said i dont know down that way to well. Cheers. Wiki ian 10:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ian, sorry I have taken so long to reply! I sorted out the template into local govt areas today. It was an easy way to settle the "how far out is a suburb" arguments, as I only included localities within Hobart, Glenorchy, Clarence, Brighton and Kingborough. The only one I got rid of (from memory) is Midway Point, which is Sorell council.

I thought Springfield may have been the Springfield Ave area. I'm not really sure, but I'll leave it there for now.

I hope you like the layout! -- Chuq 10:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Hobart suburb navbox

Hi Wiki ian, The reason the non-official suburb names aren't included in the navigation box is because the navbox is to help navigate between articles - those aren't articles, they are redirects. If people search for Abbotsfield, Tasmania or Springfield, Tasmania, they will find the correct location of the information on Wikipedia. I specifically mentioned the locations in the main template page so that editors could use "related changes" to find changes to suburb articles AND redirects. -- Chuq 08:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Chigwell Wiki

Couldn't have improved it any better myself. The comparison to main road-brooker highway doesn't really belong here, nor does specifics about house prices. However, I have a relative who has lived there for 40 years, and in the late 90's, the suburb boundary was moved to include them as berridale. I can't find a suburb boundary map for that 90's, but I'm pretty certain of it. I think the old boundary was the main road. I'll do an edit, and if you can find anything to disprove me, by all means, revert it. 202.61.134.116 12:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Tables

Hi Ian,

The only tricky part of the template is the table. There are a few ways of doing it - this page Help:Table is probably the most useful. If in doubt, just copy the template to a page under your user page (User:Wiki ian/testing or something like that) and play about with it! -- Chuq 10:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I hope you dont mind

but i used one or two of the user boxes you had. i just joined wikipedia and i dont know how to use it that well. if you wouldnt mind teaching me a thing or two, i would gladly appreciate it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kurosaki Ricky (talk • contribs) 13:04, 24 January 2007 (UTC).

what do people mean when they say to leave a signature?

i dont even have a signature, how am i supposed to leave one?

Thanks Again

I noticed you identified my page as a user page and just wanted to say thanks

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The Cops

I see on your user page you are claiming credit for creating The Cops article however wasn't it initally created by another user Lethalmonk on 26 January 2007 ?? Dan arndt 08:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

No i was claiming credit for the improvment of The Cops article and my Continuing contribution to the cops page. When you click on the history tab, it tells you the page's entire edit history, so it would be quite pointless to claim credit for the creation of the page. Wiki ian 09:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry I didn't want it to sound like an accusation - just thought that in the scheme of things you would have wanted to claim credit for more meaningful contributions that you've made rather than just the listing of the band's recordings Dan arndt 01:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Wallet/Puffer/Smokes/Keys

I'm sorry for incorrectly changing the discography for the The Cops page earlier. At the time i thought it was an EP. At the time I misread the article where i got my inofmation. After our last encounter i thought it best to assure you i'm not trying to start an Edit war or anything stupid like that. My only aim is to make pages i edit as accurate and entertaining to read as possible. Wiki ian 09:24, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

No damage done - both trying to achieve the same thing - a more comprehensive article on the band - just my competitive nature coming out - can'tr have two aussies slugging it out over nothing... Dan arndt 23:19, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Tassie roads

Well done with what you have done so far - there are significant west coast roads too! Satu Suro 01:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC) You'll need to find a reference/citation for what you have put into the intro - Satu Suro 04:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

It would be good if you could respond - I really need to find where you got your road stats from for the intro of the List article - they cannot stand alone like that - either a ref or citation is needed Satu Suro 02:49, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thats the big problem - theres hardly a straight book or article - in most cases its maps - the NLA catalogue has mainly maps - hardly anything else Satu Suro 06:31, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

BTW there are cat police in the deep Dark depths - when creating like you did with airports - you are safe - make sure you have at least close to 20 articles when you are creating them :) Satu Suro 10:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Technically 'cat police' are those editors who trawl and look for underpopulated or downright dubious categories for removal - sorry my mistake i thought youd created the highway one - and wanted to alert you to that Satu Suro 01:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Highway template

Hi Ian, Since you have been doing a great job updating many Tassie road/highway articles lately, I thought I would point out that there is a template, Template:Infobox Australian Road - designed for use on articles about Australian streets, roads and highways. -- Chuq 01:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good - I have just done Brooker Highway myself as an example. I do think that the smaller sized text in the prior template looks better - I'll suggest that the template be changed to match. -- Chuq 01:39, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Extra See Also links

Again on the highways - I've noticed an anon adding extra 'See also' links to some articles eg East Tamar Highway. While these links are useful, they are the kind of thing that should be a standard on all Tassie highway pages - therefore a template would be preferable. However, this would clog up the Hobart highway articles as they already have the Hobart Road Infrastructure box there! Would you prefer to replace your box, or merge them somehow ... or any other ideas? -- Chuq 01:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

WP Tas templates

Hi Ian, I noticed you had (probably accidentally) removed WikiProject Tasmania markers from some talk pages - just thought I would let you know since it happened multiple times! -- Chuq 12:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

And if I had seen that I'd be on your tail for that one as I spend hours trying to get the tas project and articles matching - seems hardly anyone else does that! Please do not do it! Satu Suro 13:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Goodwood Road, Tasmania

Hi there Ian

Nice start to an article. I like to see articles about transpor infrastructure, I especially like articles which tell me something about a road that I can't find out by looking at a map. You have included some statements about how the road becomes important if there are any problems on the main road, is this something which has been documented and you could provide a source for?

Is there anything readily available discussing the history (surveying, construction, upgrade) of the road? If there is some information online that I could use to expand the article, please feel free to point me in the right direction. Ga rr ie 23:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. If the shipping accident happened in '75 then I doubt it has much internet presence. Good to see that you're looking for sources and I appreciate that what is common knowledge (hence seemingly not worth citing) in Tasmania seems like specialist knowledge (that maybe only RTA (or local equivalent, sorry) staff) would have at hand. Ga rr ie 21:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Following this I added some references (from Tasman Bridge) to the Lake Illawarra article. However I cannot work out which reference gives casualty breakdown by road vs crew, can you help?Ga rr ie 21:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

a PS to the above

Ian, would you be able to split your signature up so the Wiki bit takes the user to User:Wiki ian and the ian bit takes the user to User talk:Wiki ian, like this: [[User:Wiki ian|Wiki]][[User talk:Wiki ian|ian]] which looks / works like Wiki ian (that looks wrong, because I'm already at the target page)

I don't think that needs raw html sigs enabled... This saves ppl 1 step when they want to leave you a message / read your talk page. Thanks Ga rr ie 21:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Hobart suburbs

Hi Ian, a couple of references I have used:

Glenorchy City Council's suburb map - http://www.gcc.tas.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/suburbs.pdf
Google Maps - http://maps.google.com.au/?ie=UTF8&z=13&ll=-42.819329,147.296791&spn=0.108664,0.248566&om=1

Both seem to show the same thing. I'm not sure what other references are out there for this kind of thing though. -- Chuq 01:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Well that's the thing, it's not just the maps - I do actually live in Glenorchy! I'm not denying that Dowsing Point isn't an industrial area - but I'm using suburb in the 'geographical subdivision of a city' meaing rather than the common usage of "in the 'burbs". As an example, Hobart CBD is also a suburb, in the sense that Sandy Bay, West Hobart, North Hobart, etc. are, as "Hobart" is the term used by Australia Post to refer to addresses within that area. I'm also uploaded a screenshot from http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au (since you can't link directly to maps) of a map there which showns suburb boundaries. (You can display the map as shown by turning off all layers but "localities").

We could rename all these articles from "suburbs" to "localities" if you prefer? -- Chuq 05:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Cripes - before you do that check with orderinchaos hes a wizz on suburb/locality issues across a couple of states Satu Suro 06:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I think "in the 'burbs" reflects more an American understanding of the word than an Australian one - a suburb here is just a bounded locality within a metropolitan area - so I'm in agreement with Chuq here that suburbs is the correct word to use. Localities brings in a lot of informal entities which risks leaving behind the gazette. (Might have to scour the gazettes next time I'm in Launceston...) Orderinchaos 07:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

hi my name is ian 2

hi my user name is iman59

Tasports

Hey have you found the holy grail for what has happened to the old harbour boards? I have tried to track down when the Strahan Marine board was closed down - maybe this is a line of investigation? Satu Suro 06:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Brighton Bypass

No probs, it look good at the moment, but I will take a look and if I can improve it at all! -- Chuq (talk) 08:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Midlands Hwy and Pitwater Bridge pics

Hi Ian. No problem. I haven't got any photos of the Pitwater Bridge (the name I know it as)and causeway, but I can probably get there in the next week or so. I live just a few K's off the Midlands Hwy, so I can take some local photos today. I'll grab a few from Constitution Hill (which is just up the road from our house) first, and add others as I find/take them. If you want specific spots let me know and I'll take my camera next time I go to Launcestion. KeresH 02:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Brooker

welldone = keepup == the good work! Satu Suro 04:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)