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Not sure what your point is. Care to clarify? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do the math... User:Caribbean_H.Q. + User:Marine 69-71 + User:Mercy11 = One (201077FOURTH (talk) 14:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

If you are claiming that all three users are, in fact, the same person, you are free to open an investigation at WP:Sock puppet investigations. However, since both Caribbean H.Q. and Marine 69-71 are administrators, the accusation seems unlikely. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:03, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the detailed. (201077FOURTH (talk) 15:06, 21 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

{{Talkback|Freshbreaddaily} —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freshbreaddaily (talk • contribs) 14:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move

University of the Sacred Heart (Puerto Rico) - -to - - Sagrado Corazón (201077FOURTH (talk) 15:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I can't concur that this is a good move. If anything, the article might be moved to Universidad del Sagrado Corazón, as that is the university's official name in Spanish, but generally (per WP:MOSNAME, articles on the English Wikipedia should be titled with the name that best reflects the English translation of the foreign name. A redirect from the foreign name can be created. However, since there was already an article at Sagrado Corazón, you don't get to just delete that content for this content. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, you deal with it... I am done with this district... Bad urban planning... A Census Data filled with misinformation... (201077FOURTH (talk) 15:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I can't speak to the character of the district, having never been there. I can only speak to the policies of Wikipedia, which I am attempting to follow in cleaning up articles about Puerto Rico, and lots of other topics. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:46, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well said. (201077FOURTH (talk) 15:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

George M Murray

Hi Dan we have three reliable sources but the article got deleted again. do you know what im doing wrong and what other information i will need in order for my artical to go through?

Thanks

 Susan0713 (talk) 18:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)Susan[reply]

As of this writing, the George M. Murray, Ph. D. (Scientist) article is still alive and kicking. However, there are no sources listed on the page. If you have sources, please add them. Since the article is proposed for deletion as an unreferenced BLP, you have 10 days to find and add sources. Of course, the article may be proposed for speedy deletion before that if someone determines there is something other than a simple lack of sources wrong with the article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dan - I believe we got the references in finally. Thanks for your help!!

Susan0713 (talk) 18:18, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

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No Conflict of Interest

A colleague posted an entry about me. It was entirely accurate but needed references and citations that she was unable to provide. I added them. I do not see my additions as a conflict of interest, for she wrote the entry. Incidentally, everything that is mentioned in the entry can be verified by consulting my curriculum vita at http://www.nku.edu/~rhode/cv.htm. Do you require additional verification of any facts in the entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertrhode (talk • contribs) 12:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As I have already pointed out on your talk page, your own c.v. is hardly a valid reference. Please see WP:RS. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Source

I just noticed that a resume is not a reliable source. A curriculum vita is not a resume, but I will not argue the point. What source do you require to verify the Road Roller Assn.'s award of the Silver Jubilee Certificate, which is framed and hanging on the wall behind me while I type this question? I have a letter from the Assn. in my professional dossier. Do I need to FAX the letter? In what way can anyone verify that I have published over two hundred articles, short of listing all of them as shown on my CV, which is many pages long? Perhaps it would prove helpful to know that, at the university where I have been employed for the past thirty years, I have undergone an annual review by the chair of my department to verify that the accomplishments that are listed on my curriculum vita are legitimate. I look forward to your reply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertrhode (talk • contribs) 12:42, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In order to be a valid citation, the information would have had to been published in a publicly available document, such as a magazine, newspaper, etc. The source does not have to be available online, but it does have to be publicly available, such as at a library. A certificate owned by you personally does not qualify. If the association has a website, and that website contains a reference to your award, that would do nicely. Failing that, the reference is probably not valid. As a further note, I do not believe that your biography meets the criteria for inclusion for biographies. While you may be well-known among the community of steam roller enthusiasts, that community is rather small, and notability among that rather small community does not equate to general notability. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:52, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Page

Thank you for explaining that being an internationally recognized authority on the history and literature of North American agricultural steam engines and steamrollers is not noteworthy. I respectfully request that the page that my colleague posted be deleted immediately. Kindest regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertrhode (talk • contribs) 12:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can make such a request by nominating the article for deletion. Know that this is my opinion only, and my not be shared by other members of the Wikipedia community. You are free to seek other opinions on the matter. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

move my article from english wikipedia to latvian wikipedia.

Hi! I wrote (by mistake) my latvian article "Komandas psiholoģija" here in english wikipedia and i would like to move it to latvian wikipedia, but i just do not know how to do it. :) Maybe you can help me?! Thanks!

I don't know that there is a mechanism to move an article between Wikipedias. I would suggest you place the {{helpme}} template on your own talk page followed by the same question, and an administrator will come along to help you. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I just solve this problem by deleting my article from english page and after that copying it to latvian.--Ilzitek (talk) 17:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re:John

I suggest you both, User:Jonas Bronx and User:WikiDan61, bring up the situation with a more experienced admin. such as User:Mindspillage since my real life obligations have contributed to my limited time here for now. Take care. Tony the Marine (talk) 20:11, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why u do not want to be an admin

You know a lot about the policy, so therefore you would be a strong administrator candidate. I would prbly vote for you, except sometimes you are rude to other users. So if i have to give you some constructive criticism, I would say try not to be so rude to users who are not as smart as you, but for the most part you would be a good admin so I would vote for you unless you do some things to mess up.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 21:09, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks but no thanks. My reasons for not wanting the bit are my own concern. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ok. if you would like me to nominate you, pls let me know. JUST KIDDING!!!! u should have someone nominate u who has a good reputation and lots of experience because if Bad edits r dumb nominated you everyone would be like WUT???????--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 21:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saskatchewan Roughriders all time records and statistics

You write: "These are lists of records within the individual teams, which records are not necessarily notable. Whereas there are articles such as New York Yankees award winners and league leaders, these articles highlight the league-wide accomplishments of the team's players, not the team-specific records. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)"

Hmmm ... maybe you'd like to delete all these articles:

Category:Major League Baseball team records

or these ones:

Category:National Hockey League statistical records

You're sort of a jerk, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigercat222 (talk • contribs)

You did notice that I withdrew the nomination, did you not? At first glance, such material did not appear notable, but as I looked at other articles in the same category I realized that I was in the minority with that view. I'm sorry I forgot to post a notice on your talk page that the nomination had been withdrawn. And please remember not to make personal attacks.WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:18, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That was not a personal attack. It is my opinion based on empirical observation. Perhaps you can take time to research and analyze an item or entry before unilaterally decide that it should be deleted. Giving this topic even a brief amount of consideration and comparative analysis would have led you to your finally conclusion, without the bother and discourtesy of the threatened deletions. To wit: it would have been the nice and responsible thing to do. Which is why I think you are a ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigercat222 (talk • contribs)

USLS1 - Talkback 1,000,000,001

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USLS1 - Talkback 1,000,000,000

Always remember to keep all categories tagged Example: Category:Aguadilla, Puerto Rico

I believe such overcategorization is inappropriate. This has been discussed on WT:WikiProject Puerto Rico. You might want to join the conversation there. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

USLS1 - Talkback 999,999,999

You can use Borinquen (Caguas) as practice. (USLS1 (talk) 14:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Practice for what?? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To get your account suspended for Wikihounding. (USLS1 (talk) 14:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

It's not WP:Stalker#Wikihounding to find someone with a history of poor articles and attempt to clean up those articles. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:02, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I might suggest that you are the wikihound for edits such as this, where you injected yourself into an article that I had tagged, but which is completely outside of the field of interest that your other edits would indicate. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:04, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Querella 9-24-2010

My suggestion is that you both (User talk:USLS1 and User:WikiDan61) state your case and seek a solution with the Arbitration Committee here: Dispute resolution requests since I am not a member of said committee. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

re:

I think you need to open a SPI case, I will post supporting the case, but if USLS1 keep making edits like this, you need to bring it up to WP:ANI so the account can be block. --Jmundo (talk) 00:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I Notice

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. It's located here: [1] Thank you. ROBERTMFROMLI ^TALK/_CNTRB 02:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Response

Take me off this list here and please abstain from writing ludicrous statements on my wall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merrytimes (talk • contribs) 17:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a section on the SPI page where you are free to make any statements you care to in your own defense. I stand by the list; if you care to refute the accusation, please do so. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Again

Please stop writing senseless comments and reverting edits on my wall. (Merrytimes (talk) 17:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

My edits are not senseless. I am trying to help you properly respond to the SPI case against you. USLS1 (talk · contribs) has no business removing my comments from your talk page, unless you and he (she) are one and the same person (which is the problem the SPI is trying to address). You are free to remove my comments from your talk page; other users are not. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:42, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Again (2nd Time)

Please stop reverting edits on my wall. (Merrytimes (talk) 18:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I did not revert your last edit on your talk page. You had removed my talkback notice, and I placed a new talkback notice. However, I will respect your wishes and refrain from contacting you on your talk page unless your edits require further communication. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Final Note

No you. I exhort you not to write bias vapid-communications or perform abusive methods of Persecution in my TALK page for your own personal amusement. (Merrytimes (talk) 18:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Nobody Cares

Stop wanting yourself from being noticed. Nobody really cares about your influence over wikipedia under your so hundreds of accounts, your twenty ish administrator accounts and your thousands of fake written articles under your lame named puppet accounts. Nobody really cares. Buy yes, stop interfering with the Puerto Rico Project for your own amusement or tryings to define the real identity of its common contributors or administrators. (Merrytimes (talk) 19:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I don't have hundreds of accounts. I have one. And with that one account, I strive to keep Wikipedia a place where people can come and find meaningful and true information. If that means I butt heads with people whose goals are otherwise, than so be it. My involvement in Wikipedia:WikiProject Puerto Rico has been solely in cleaning up poorly created articles. If Merrytimes (talk · contribs) thinks that is interference, he should remember that he does not own the articles. If Merrytimes is unhappy that I have accused him of sock puppetry, he has the right to defend himself at the appropriate venue, or to simply ignore the matter and let the reviewing administrators make the decision. However, his vandalism since the accusation was made speaks for itself. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stop Using my Talk Page

For your own amusement. Use your sandbox or Microsoft Word to keep experimenting on how to talk to yourself. (Merrytimes (talk) 20:32, 27 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Loooser (Merrytimes (talk) 20:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I'll stop posting vandalism warnings on your user page when you stop vandalizing. And please don't engage in personal attacks. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Miaaw.com

Speedy deletion nomination of Spécial:Contributions/Fraddk

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Fraddk (talk) 22:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I posted this about Miaaw.com, and it was not a test, should I understand it needs more development?

thanks for help and/or advices

Fraddk

The point is moot now as your article has 1) been moved to your user space and 2) blanked, but I will try to explain to you why I tagged the page as I did. The name of the page was inappropriate: it should have been created at Miaaw.com, not at Spécial:Contributions/Fraddk. There is a page titled Special:Contributions/Fraddk that will list all of the contributions you have made since creating your account; replacing the word "Special" with "Spécial" causes confusion. Since your article name appeared confusing, I had two options:

Move the article to the proper address or
Tag the article for deletion

I would have chosen the first option except, as has been pointed out by another editor when he blanked the page, it consisted of nothing but promotional language for the group involved. Wikipedia is not here to promote any given entity. So the only option left was to tag the article for deletion. Since the article was created at an obviously incorrect location, I assumed that you were testing the system (it was your first contribution), so I marked it as a test page. Sorry for any confusion. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

World Music Live & Distribution

i dont get it how is my press releases self made they are not the boot.com is a credible site i am very good friends with the band brother clyde in billy ray cyrus and my artist has done a song with him that was released on universal Fontana. --Billboarder22 (talk) 20:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

and my company also has a contract with island def jam records which is a notable record label if you ever heard of it Jay-Z ran the company for a few years.--Billboarder22 (talk) 20:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The press release that you cited (this one) was written by you. That would be the definition of "self-made". And I would take issue with the statement that "boot.com" is a credible site: please see the guidelines about "reliable sources". Any site where a user can post a blog with little or no editorial review is not a reliable source. And by saying that "my company has a contract..." you are admitting to a conflict of interest. Wikipedia discourages users from writing about their own companies. However, since the article has been nominated for deletion, you should make any arguments regarding its retention at the AFD discussion. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:59, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dan I Am Looking In To It

I am going to investigate it.--Billboarder22 (talk) 21:00, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Apologies

Well done WikiDan61. I see that you found a solution to some of the problems. I hope that you continue to make positive contributions to Puerto Rican related articles. Tony the Marine (talk) 23:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I second That! QuAz GaA 00:13, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really know a thing about Puerto Rico. I just know vandalism when I see it. I'll help clean up the mess left by this particular vandal as best as I can, but don't expect too much of actual knowledgeable input from me. I'll leave that to people who know more about PR than I do. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

suspicious

Can you take a look at Spacestoned (talk · contribs). The account was created the 27th, the first edits are in the sub-districts articles of Puerto Rico, and then db an article that you Afd [2]. I ask the user if he has used another account before and this time his answer is a straight yes. I don't know how to proceed, the user has a mix bag of contributions, and the checkuser didn't pick him up. --Jmundo (talk) 22:21, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Despite some outward appearances of similarity, I don't believe this is another sock of Plastic Beach. Tnxman307 (talk · contribs) was pretty thorough in his checkuser search and found lots of socks that had not been mentioned in the original investigation, so if this were also a sock, he would have discovered that. Also, his record of edits seems pretty clean. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:00, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Giorgos Xylouris

The way that my article was cleaned up made it completely inexact. So I prefer that you delete it. Thank you.Kriti28 (talk) 15:37, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are free to correct any mistakes that have been made. As other hands have touched the article at this point, the only way to get it deleted would be to nominate it at WP:Articles for deletion, but I'm not sure why you would want to delete the article. Xylouris seems to be a notable-enough musician. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is also this message on my article: {This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful. (September 2010)} although i have added references... Can you suggest something?Kriti28 (talk) 08:30, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The references you have added are 1) from his own personal website and 2) from the Greek Wikipedia article about him. Neither of these are considered valid references. See the guidelines about reliable sources for information about what types of references are acceptable. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:45, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have added two more sources on my article, is it ok with the verification now?Kriti28 (talk) 10:13, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The extra sources may help: since they're in Greek I can't verify them. However, assuming good faith, I believe the article may be better sourced now. However, I have changed the tag on the page to indicate that the citations should be "inline". Please see the Wikipedia guidelines on citations to understand what this means and how to do it. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is it ok now? Thank you!Kriti28 (talk) 14:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC) The name of the singer is categorized under the letter "G" while it should be categorized under the letter "X" with which the surname begins. Why's that?Kriti28 (talk) 20:16, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article did not have a {{DEFAULTSORT}} entry. The DEFAULTSORT template causes the page to be alphabetized in category lists in a form different than the article title (such as last name, first name). I have added the necessary tag. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC) Thank you! You are really helpful!Kriti28 (talk) 07:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PRODs

Hey. You proposed Smart Basics Hotels for deletion about a week ago. The PROD was perfectly valid and, as such, I've deleted the article after it expired, but you tagged it just 12 minutes after it was created. If an article doesn't meet a speedy criterion, it's usually better to leave it for a few hours to see if the creator does anything else with it, especially if they're new (in this case, it was the creator's first and, so far, only, edit). After all, there's no harm in leaving an article on a subject that's just not notable to knock around for a few more hours. Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:39, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dubai Trophy

Hi WikiDan61,

The Dubai trophy is the major 12 goal tournament played at our historic grounds in London. this year the tournament attracted teams form Pakistan Thailand and Jordan as well as the UK. I am trying to compile a history of our club on wikipedia and i believe that the Dubai Trophy merits its own article.

Many thanks,

Benjie —Preceding unsigned comment added by BenjaminHugo (talk • contribs) 16:24, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As the article has been nominated for deletion, any comments regarding its retention should be addressed there. However, as you mention that you are "trying to compile a history of our club", I would point you to the Wikipedia guidelines regarding conflicts of interest: you should not be creating articles about your own club. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wiki Dan61 RE: Madison Moellers

Hi, I was trying to change the article so it was linked to verifiable tv shows/film already on Wikipedia that Madison has done but when I went to do it, it was already under speedy deletion so I couldn't do it. I am sorry. I am trying to read everything and do this right. Does this mean Madison Moellers is deleted and I can't edit it now? I couldn't figure out how to merge it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmoellers (talk • contribs) 16:48, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, the article has not yet been deleted, and you can still edit it. Your first action should be to place a {{hangon}} template on the page, and then explain why you think the article should not be deleted on the talk page. However, given that you appear to be Madison Moellers, you should know that it is considered inappropriate to write your own autobiography on Wikipedia. You should also note that a few minor guest appearances in a TV show do not make you notable according to Wikipedia guidelines. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:53, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi WikiDan61,

I am really not technically advanced. Reading everything and feeling like an idiot. I am not Madison Moellers. Madison is 7 years old. I am her mother and her agents wanted me to do this. They noted several girls with her level of credits on Wikipedia. She has done 12 film/television/commercials. If that is not enough, I understand but there are other girls up on Wikipedia with the same. I was just trying to do what her agents asked me to do and I tried my best to follow the guidelines. I can't even get to the template you bring up to put hold on I did add her picture in Entertainment Weekly and I added the reference of her on a talk show. She also has been on CBS national news being noted as one of the hottest, young commodities in Hollywood but I could not find it. I tried. If it's not enough, that is how the ball bounces. Thank you for taking the time. I do appreciate your input. So, if it's not enough I will tell her agents we can't do it til she is the star of a movie. Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmoellers (talk • contribs) 17:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that other poor articles exist on Wikipedia is not a reason to create one more. Wikipedia is not intended to be used to promote your daughter's career. If your daughter has received significant coverage in the press, she may well be notable. If that is the case, you might request an article to be written about her, and provide links along with the request to give users a starting point, but because of the obvious conflict of interest involved, you should not write the article about your daughter. I wish her luck in her career! WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:29, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all the same WikiDan61. I put the effort in and am going to let it go. It will happen when it's supposed to. Have a great rest of your week! Mmoellers (talk) 18:50, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

how many times can i "disrupt" wiki before im blocked from editing?

Sure, blame me..... not impressed with you. And you have not removed the page entirely. Delete it so it doesn't exist. Thank you.Gregory Helvering (talk) 16:08, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moutray2010

remember me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike Rothstein (talk • contribs) 20:25, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

easyrec - Smart Agent Technologies

Hi Dan,

I just received your message about a COI concerning easyrec and Smart Agent Technologies (SAT). easyrec is an open source recommender system available for the public on sourceforge provided by SAT ( a non-for-profit research unit).

Why is there a COI? Is it because of the mutual links? Thanks! Erich Gstrein (talk) 14:53, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The conflict of interest arises from the fact that you, as the creator of the software, should not be the one creating the article about the software on Wikipedia. As hard as you might try to be neutral, your close connection to the project may well prevent you from being able to do so. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:54, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rachael Thorn

dan??? are u getting this post? Dont delete the rachael page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kokopelly (talk • contribs) 17:26, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm not an administrator so I can't delete the page. I just tagged it so that an administrator could evaluate it. However, I must ask, why should the page not be deleted? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:31, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

wylde swan

Hi,

You kindly corrected my page for wylde swan. I was trying to make the web page a citation but couldn't work out how to do it. Is that ok for a citation or should I get the IMO registration or something?

More will be added by the office of the ship later, I just wanted to get them started.

Thanks

Nick —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick mitchener (talk • contribs) 18:05, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The website of the ship and its associated sailing school would not be a suitable reference as it is not independent of the subject. In order to support the notability of this vessel, independent coverage in reliable sources is needed. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:17, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verification/citation

Hi WikiDan61, thank you for your message. I am knew to this so please bear with me. The two radio station citations, Craig Charles and Mark Lamarr both clearly mention the record label Outta Sight. Mark Lamarr particularly has a soft spot for the label and devoted a considerable part of his radio 2 show to the label. The very respected Soulful Detroit forum has discussed the label on a number of occasions and directly discusses the "Heartstoppers" release cited. The two magazines don not have websites but are nevertheless the genres leading publications. As far as I can see the article follows the same or similar pattern to all other UK record labels and in particular Cherry Red and Ace who both release similar product.
In the interests of delivering an unbiased platform I am concerned that Wikipedia may discriminate between one UK label and another.
Please advise

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeboy60 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The citations to the radio programs have changed since I first looked at the article. However, while the current citations do mention the label, they only mention it as part of the shows' playlists. There is no indication from these references that the shows actually mention or discuss the label, only that they play its records. This does not constitute significant coverage. And no matter how respected the Soulful Detroit forum might be, forums in general are not acceptable references, because the content there is not subject to any editorial review. Finally, the coverage in Manifesto and In The Basement may well qualify; I can't verify that as I have no access to these publications. However, the very fact that these publications do not have a web presence may well reveal that they do not represent significant coverage. Soul is not some new underground genre -- its roots go back decades. One would expect that a significant label in the soul genre would have garnered some attention from some major publications. If not, maybe the label is not as significant as you would have me believe. However, you have placed the hangon tag on the article -- an independent administrator will review the article and see if there is any merit. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:39, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi WikiDan61, many thanks for your speedy response. I am struggling a little to familiarize myself with the correct procedures and the skill to point links at exactly the right place. I can assure you that having compiled literally hundreds of Soul albums for major and independent labels including Universal and Sony that I do know the significance of a Soul label. Outta Sight is certainly significant and one of the few UK labels serviced with an mcps AP1 agreement. It would be a great help to me if you might have a look at our sister label Expansion Records and let me know where I may be going wrong. Thank you for your time and advice. ----

Verification/citation

Hi WikiDan61
I have found a direct reference to Outta Sight on the web site for Echoes magazine, formerly Black Echoes - one of the longest established Soul music magazines. Unfortunately the article appears in a pop-up window which I believe Google and indeed Wikipedia will not be be able to drill-down to. Please advise. ---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeboy60 (talk • contribs) 16:28, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

reply: October 2010

Hi and thank for the welcome. I am from Chinese and I speak English on Wikipedia from now on. Kingtehmann (talk) 15:46, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Wayne article- a work-in-progress

Good Morning,

I'm very new to Wikipedia, so please forgive me. I'm working on submitting Matt Wayne, and your claims of him being a 'non-known entertainer' are false. If you Google "Celebrity" and then "Magician" you'll find him even before anyone else. I'm working on providing proper citations, so if it's possible to allow me the time to create my submission without it being deleted yet; I'd appreciate any help or advice...

Many thanks, Denise Aada2009 (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Simply because an entertainer bills themself as "the Celebrity Magician" and thus assures that his website shows up first in a search for "Celebrity Entertainer" (which, in fact, it doesn't; it shows up second), this does not make the entertainer notable. There does not appear to be any notice in any major media about Mr Wayne's activities. If you can prove otherwise, please do so. The deletion discussion generally runs 7 days -- if you can improve the article in that time, feel free to do so. If not, you are free to re-create the article in your own user space (perhaps at User:Aada2009/Matt Wayne) and work on it there to your heart's content until it is ready to be recreated in the main article space. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:44, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy Hyman

Hi WikiDan61,

I notice that the Timothy Hyman article you tagged for more citation references in January now has significantly more added. Might this tag be removed? Best wishes, Acabashi (talk) 11:39, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:55, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

November copy edit drive

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive!

The Wikipedia Guild of Copy-Editors invites you to participate in the November 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive will begin on 1 November at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on 30 November at 23:59 (UTC). The goal for this drive is to reduce the backlog by 10% (approximately 500 articles). We hope to focus our efforts on the oldest three months (January, February, and March 2009) and the newest three months (September, October, and November 2010) of articles in the queue.

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Deletion of United Republic of India

You nominated the redirect United Republic of India for speedy deletion. DGG has declined your speedy deletion and nominated it for Redirects for discussion instead. You may like to contribute to the RfD discussion. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:29, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Surface Festival

Hi Dan, Just seen this discussion on the AfD logs - not sure if you're aware that a similar article was deleted last month at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Surface Unsigned. Good to see it exited quickly as a speedy, we all might need to keep our eyes out for recreation under some other name. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 08:49, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

University of Tromsø

The faculty of health sciences at The University of Tromsø has got all of the health subjects in one faculty.This is unique and has never been done in Norway before. For that reason we would like to be allowed to fill in information regarding the departments of our faculty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pa8c99i (talk • contribs) 08:31, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have presently created three articles (Department of Clinical Medicine, Department of Community Medicine, University of Tromsø, and Faculty of Health Sciences). The last has already been deleted as a copyright infringement, the second has been proposed for deletion because the general consensus is that individual departments of universities are not notable unless they have achieved something unique on their own (not as part of their larger university), and the first provides no context for anyone to know what you're talking about, and so will likely be deleted also. Since you claim that your faculty is unique in consolidating lots of different subjects into one faculty, why not try creating a single article that discusses all of these aspects together, rather than creating lots of different articles? I will tell you, though, that the single article you create must cite reliable sources in order to verify that the faculty is, in fact, unique in all of Norway and therefore merits an article on Wikipedia. On the other hand, you could just create a section in the University of Tromsø article to expand on the Faculty of Health Sciences there. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:34, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Careful

Hi WikiDan, I've declined your db-corp tag on SPIC School in Hungary, Miskolc because A7 does not apply to schools. Since I'm having a very hard time finding any coverage of the school at all (via Google), PROD or AfD look like viable options. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 01:11, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a school in the sense of a general educational institution. It is a private, art-instruction school, which makes it more of a non-notable corporation than an actual school. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 10:05, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense; looks like the discussion you started will have the page deleted. I'll see you around, Airplaneman ✈ 02:24, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Georges Mathé

Thanks. It seems to have notability established, although it would be good if all those awards could be verified Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Geographic coordinate lists

Despite the fabrication (from lack of critical thinking) that:

It serves no purpose to create a disambiguation page if none of the individual pages exist. Pages such as Dutch John Mountain and Fairview Peak contain no meaningful information. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the latidue/longitude links in such geographic coordinate lists allow wikireaders to access a map for the summits-which-will-have-future-wikipages, and of course those pages will have already been dismbiguated! No need for talkback (e.g., with an apology), as I'm sure you'll agree those are two purposes (vice "no purpose") and you'll spend a lttle more time considering the contents of wikiarticles before wasting your and others' time by acting on your first inaccurate judgment. Hike796 (talk) 14:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your disambiguation pages violate the Manual of style for disambiguation pages regarding red links. In the case of Dutch John Mountain, since neither of the named places is mentioned in any Wikipedia article, the redlink listing of it at a DAB page is pointless, even if geo coordinates are provided. When (if) the named places ever get Wikipedia articles, the DAB page can be created then. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:38, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{Talkback|Freshbreaddaily} —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freshbreaddaily (talk • contribs) 14:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wallace G. Nye‎

Thanks for your excellent work on Wallace G. Nye‎, much appreciated! Top Jim (talk) 09:46, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the recognition. One of the joys of new page patrol is that eventually you come across a nugget of an article and get to expand it into something meaningful. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FOSS User Magazine

I have added some references and the magazine web site contains all information. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bckurera (talk • contribs) 13:11, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FOSS User Magazine

I added a news paper article and another soon. Please consider this is not a commercial thing just another FOSS related work.

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Reference

To make it clear, you removed the reference as for "reception" section, I restored it for the "overview" part of the article, which obviously you submitted for deletion. The reference link is still valid, I believe, as it provides details about the product itself. Otherwise you may want also to remove all "official website links" for, let's say, recording artists or actors, who promote their work as well. Anyway, either the article is about to be deleted or not, I have nothing to add. Uzerakount (talk) 13:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Listing the distributor's page as an external link is fine; listing it as a reference is not. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:41, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copyrights

About this, I just sent a message to the owner of the image which you can view here. I'll tell you the results as soon as I get an answer. --Rigas Papadopoulos • Talk to me • My work • 14:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with the image is not so much that it is a copyright violation as the fact that you have provided no source information at all. If the image is taken from the UESP, that should be noted. If the UESP is using the MediaWiki software, it is likely that it is also using the MediaWiki licensing, and that the image is freely available. But no one can ascertain that unless you specify where the image came from. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:02, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where can I specify that is taken from UESP? --Rigas Papadopoulos • Talk • Deeds • 15:17, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On the file page (here), select "Edit this page" (or maybe "View source" depending on which style book you have active), and insert the {{Information}} template as follows:

{{Information
| description = Logo of the Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages
| source      = http://www.uesp.net
| date        = 1 November 2010
| author      = 
| permission  = {{cc-by-sa-3.0}}
}}

I'm guessing at the permission, as I cannot access the UESP page from work. Check the options at Wikipedia:File copyright tags to see which license best suits the usages allowed by the UESP.

I did it, although I am not sure about the permission either, and I can not understand anything at Wikipedia:File copyright tags. --Rigas Papadopoulos • Talk • Deeds • 15:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nils-Göran Areskoug

--Arewiki (talk) 20:19, 7 November 2010 (UTC)Hey Dan. This BLP needs sources. Questions: (1) The following webpage ("Aremus" under Are Akademi) lists sources and links to pdf files with details: http://sites.google.com/site/coleur/aremus . Would it help solving the issues to include this link under References? (2) There are published sources in English, such as (a) an article in International Who's Who in Classical Music (2009) ("IWWCM"), (b) a review in The Music Review (1988), (c) several books including at least one PhD thesis that discusses the author's theories. Should they be included separately? In addition, (3) Should there be a separate link to the SMIC list of compositions? I am new to Wikipedia. Thank you for your assistance to solve the issues.[reply]

Areskoug's own home page would not be a be a valid reference for his article because it is not independent of the subject, as required by Wikipedia guidelines. The Who's Who listing would probably also not be valid; generally such books are made to play on the vanity of the subjects and are not considered a reliable source to indicate notability on Wikipedia. However, the other sources (published reviews and analyses of Areskoug's work) would be useful if the represent significant coverage of his work (as opposed to a brief mention in passing. I don't know what you mean by "the SMIC list of compositions", so I don't know whether a separate link is in order or not. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:58, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

November 2010 backlog elimination drive update

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive!

Discussions are underway to elect our inaugural group of GOCE Coordinators. Guild members and Drive participants are invited to have a look at the Coordinators page and join the discussion on its associated talk page.

We have reached the midway point in our backlog elimination drive, so here is an update.

Participation report — The November drive has 53 participants at this point. We had 77 participants in the September drive. In July, 95 people signed up for the drive, and in May we had 36. If you are not participating, it is not too late to join!

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Admin help

{{adminhelp}} I believe that this edit represents an inappropriate non-admin closure of an AFD discussion. The discussion had not yet been open 7 days (open 11 November, closed 17 November) and only one opinion other than the nomination had been expressed -- and that was neither a keep nor a delete, merely a comment. If, after 7 days, no further comments had been forthcoming, I believe the discussion should have been relisted, rather than merely closed by a non-admin. Is there a remedy to this mistake other than renominating the article? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - I have reversed the closure. JohnCD (talk) 12:49, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:11, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Regards, Rock drum _Ba-dum^Crash _{(Driving well?)} 15:54, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And again. Rock drum _Ba-dum^Crash _{(Driving well?)} 16:01, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Again. Rock drum _Ba-dum^Crash _{(Driving well?)} 16:05, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Drossbox

The entry for Drossbox that you tagged as being of questionable notability is, in fact, self-promotion. You are right to question its notability as the contributor, Amethina, is the sole source for this topic. Viz. http://gildedquill.blogspot.com/ for her previous "drossboxes" several of which are pictured in the WP article. --Exculpus (talk) 15:59, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Headway Solar

I've just done my third reversion there of removal of csd tag - over to you? Unfortunately, it's being done by IP so I can't get them for it. Peridon (talk) 15:31, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If they undo it again, I'll take to AFD. It's a pain, but it gets the job done. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:33, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They've just reverted Tikiwont's reversion... Peridon (talk) 15:39, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: 11th Intelligence Squadron

Hello WikiDan61. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of 11th Intelligence Squadron, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: (see WP:A3; "Similarly, this criterion doesn't cover a page with an infobox with non-trivial information. ". Thank you. Courcelles 17:45, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Criticism of the Talmud or the other page?

Hello Dan.

There's not much of a reason for deleting 'In Praise of the Talmud', it's well sourced.
If there's a page "criticism" of the Talmud which is all POV, why not this?
Do to your request, I will be adding more sources, though. Supperteecee (talk) 15:35, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly you are here to make a point, which, by its very nature, violates the neutrality guideline of Wikipedia. Rather than create a new page which is entirely one-sided, pointing out only praise of the Talmud, you might to better to address any lack of neutrality you see in the Criticism of the Talmud page. If that page is too one-sided, add content that you feel balances the page. I should also point out that both your In Praise of Talmud article and the Criticism of the Talmud article rely almost entirely on Jewish authors as sources. While it is quite ordinary and expected that Jewish authors would write works in support of their own scriptures, it is somewhat more noteworthy that Jewish authors would criticize their own scriptures, which makes Criticism of the Talmud a more noteworthy article than yours. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:16, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE elections

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors

Elections are currently underway for our inaugural Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days: 00:01 UTC, Friday 1 December – 23:59 UTC, Tuesday 14 December. All GOCE members in good standing, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. There are six candidates vying for four positions. The candidate with the highest number of votes will become the Lead Coordinator, therefore, your vote really matters! Cast your vote today.

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Igor Borisovich Berezovsky

I declined your speedy as A7, no indication of notability. At the time you placed the tag, there was already sufficient information in the article to not just pass the criterion for giving an indication of notability, but sufficient to meet the criteria for actual notability. Notability for creative artists is proven by personal exhibitions in notable venues or works in major museums, and he has several of each. True, at the time you placed it, there were not yet sources, but at the most, this would have given reason for an unsourced tag. DGG ( talk ) 20:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At the time I placed my tag, the article (see the version here) contained some mentions of art shows. It did not contain any mention of exhibitions in major museums. Those came after my tag. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of 4483

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If you would take the time to look at the history of the page to which 4483 redirects, you will see that I did not create a hoax, I moved a page that had been given a very poor title. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 22:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good job on that move. I apologize for the incorrect tagging of that redirect. Sincerely, Winner 42 Talk to me! 22:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

November 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive Conclusion

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive!

We have reached the end of our fourth backlog elimination drive. Thanks to all who participated.

Stats

58 people signed up for this drive. Of these, 48 people participated in the drive.
Although we did not eliminate the months we planned to (January, February, and March 2009; and August, September, and October 2010), we did reduce the backlog by 627 articles (11.2%), which was over our goal of 10%.
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Barnstars

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Bradie

Hi, A Bradie is a totally different scottish pie to the Bridie of Forfar. The rather 'dubious' link to the butcher is a high class butcher in Fraserburgh who makes Bradies. Please re-instate the Bradie page.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abz1971 (talk • contribs) 15:02, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One unnamed butcher's opinion (no matter how "high class" he might be) that his product is better than that "inferior southern product made for the cheaper council bean end of the market" is hardly a reliable source and is rather insulting to the thousands of bridie lovers throughout the UK. If you can provide a reliable source to indicate that this product is significantly different than a bridie, please do so. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Io sono Tony Scott

Why would you delete my article without even mentioning it to me? It took me quite some time to translate it. If you feel it could be merged with Tony Scott (musician), then you should at least enrich that page with the information provided in the article about the documentary. Anyway, what is your criterion for deciding that the film is not worth its own page?--Ma Zhenguo (talk) 15:11, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The film does not meet any of the criteria of WP:Notability (films). If you disagree, you are free to undo my edit and we can let a more protracted review process ensue. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:27, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation. In the criteria you pointed out "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." (...) "This guideline includes published works such as books, television documentaries, full-length featured newspaper articles from large circulation newspapers, full-length magazine reviews and criticism". I added external links to a few reviews from major Italian newspaper. I would not translate such an article into Ossetian; I did translate it into English, although this film is probably more "notable" for the Italian reader, since I assumed that the English language Wikipedia did not "belong" to a specific (English-speaking) country, but, rather, it would be the Wikipedia which the most people can actually read, even if their mother tongue is not English.--Ma Zhenguo (talk) 15:41, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct. If the film is notable (i.e. has received coverage) in Italy, that is sufficient for inclusion in the English Wikipedia. However, I'm not sure that the reference you have provided amount to significant coverage:

This reference appears to be a mere listing of the film's existence.
This reference is an article about Scott's death, which verifies a fact about Scott, but not about this film.
This reference seems to be more a reflection on Scott's life (to be sure inspired by the film's appearnce at the Lucarno Film Festival] than a review of the film itself.
This reference is an announcement of the film's presentation at a particular jazz festival.
This reference appears to be a legitimate review, but I am not clear on the nature of the Il Primo Amore website. Is it a blog? An online magazine? The online arm of a print magazine?

Can you help me understand the nature of some of these references? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:17, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it's my mistake, I located the links to the references at the bottom of the page, in the (sub)section "Reviews":

These are all reviews of the film. The second and the last of those come from major Italian newspapers L'Unità and La Repubblica. Thanks for your interest!!--Ma Zhenguo (talk) 16:25, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'll let it be for now. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!!--Ma Zhenguo (talk) 20:29, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Response re Curries of Arran

The writer of the article is NOT trying to get clan status for the name Currie. He fully accepts the information provided by two different Lord Lyon Kings of Arms -- that this would be impossible to verify lacking written records for over 400 years. This is stated very clearly in the article. The truth is -- though this is NOT stated in the article -- the recently established Clan Currie Society based in Scotland is attempting to establish recognized staus as a clan, disregarding the information from the Lord Lyon King of Arms. The Clan Currie Society, in attempting to have Colonel William McCurdo Currie recognized as the direct primogeniture descendant of Muireadhach Albanach, have announced that the Balilone Tartan is the official Currie tartan, and no other should be recognized. The Balilone Currie Tartan was a private tartan granted to an ancestor of William McMurdo Currie in 1822 by a MacDonald chief and not registered until 1991, registered number 778, where the tartan designed by Lt. Col. Harry Currie was registered in 1981, registered number 499, 10 years earlier than the Balilone Tartan. There is no commercial intent whatsoever -- the writer nor Col. Currie do not hold any trademarks or copyrights, and the 1981 tartan was renamed the Currie of Arran tartan rather than get into any unpleasant situation with the Clan Currie Society. The Currie of Arran tartan is free for any woolen manufacturer anywhere in the world to use the design as they wish -- that is stated from the designer. If you really want to check someone out, read the information supplied on the Clan Currie Society website and I will gladly help you challenge any number of statements which have no basis in fact or can't be proved. All any society can do is state that the society has adopted a certain tartan as the society's tartan -- they simply cannot make a determination that a certain tartan is the "official" tartan for everyone of that name. They have no authority to do so, and, ironically, even if there were a genuine Currie Clan recognized by the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs, any Currie could still wear any tartan they felt like -- there are no restrictions about what tartan you can buy or wear. Very few Currie people either on the Isle of Arran or descended from it are aware of their own name's history, and most everyone will not be aware that the 1981 tartan, instead of being generalized as the Clan Currie Tartan, has now been voluntarily renamed the Currie of Arran Tartan, and even if your name is Zurakowsky you can wear it if it appeals to you. Arrancroft (talk) 07:20, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As the article Curries of Arran: A Brief History and Their Tartan has been nominated for deletion, please direct any comments regarding the deletion or retention of that article to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curries of Arran: A Brief History and Their Tartan. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:32, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Postum Scriptum: I'm Dr Claudio. Blocked this account, please. Jackson Harrison (talk) 18:39, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Kittybrewster ☎ 19:20, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Translation

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Am university of amqyonic science

Dear Wiki Dan 61, Thank you for your note. Some of the information you changed is incorrect. For example, the American University of Mayonic Science and Technology is not in Sant a Fe NM. It is based in Alamos, Mexico and Chennai, India. It is a distance learing institution with about 40 % off its classes held in residence. Unfortunately I have little time to really understand how to write on Wiki. I love wiki and use it often for reference but i'm not savvy to all the notations.

Accreditation is not a requirement- it is voluntary - look at the national accrediting agencies websites. Your mentioning it in the article seems to be to dismiss the institution. There are thousands of schools that have not chosen to seek accreditation. It is very costly (about $700,000 to go through the process) and at this time the school does not have those kinds of funds.

Why is this university notable? It is in fact the only existing institution that teaches Vaastu Shastras and Sthapatya Veda (traditional Indian architecture)authentically. There are a few Universities in India that teach some clases. One school focuses on the art but not the science behind the art (Government School of Sculpture and Architecture, Tamil Nadu). It was founded by the most celebrated living traditioal Indian architect Dr. V. Ganapati Sthapati who is mentioned in numerous articles on wiki. It is really the Harvard of this science. That it is small and not yet accredited by an American accrediting agency does not make it unnoteworthy. It has a sound academic program and through it the knowedge of building architecture of sthapatya veda and vaastu shastras is being preserved.

It is based upon ancient texts and the knowledge of mamuni Mayan who is mentioned in numerous places in Wiki. It trains architects, builders and lay people from all over the world. It is not fly by night nor is it new age woo woo... This is a notable institution thus notable wiki article because: 1. it is preserving ancient vedic and prevedic knowledge in its pure form 2. it is the only one of its kind teaching under the auspices of a living Sthapati and shilpi Guru (authorized to teach by the govt of India)and reciepiant of numerous awards. 3. it offers the full range of this field of study ( science and art). No other isnstitution does this. 4. while there are fly by night people teaching workshops that have little to do with the authentic science, this school is an attempt to create an ongoing form to teach directly from the shastras rather than a bunch of made up stuff. 5. this school was begun and is sustained by very limited funding yet it has survived. 6. the texts used are some of the most ancient texts in existance - Pranava Veda and Aintiram. 7. the students are working architects, builders and interested lay people who go through a very rigorous program. 8. intelectually, what is taught is stimulating and profound.

The article is not designed as spam or anything like that. It is designed to inform regarding a very important institution in the field of Traditional Indian Architeure. It has been mentioned in a number of articles in India, one published text in the US Vastu: Transcendental Home Design in Harmony with Nature, and in several scholarly papers. I however do not have references for these thus cannot quote them. You have not challenged the hundreds of other Universities who have wiki posts why are you challenging this institution. they are all posted. I looked up University of Okalahoma for example. It gives an extraordinary long article on things that are mundane and don't differentiate that scholl from any of the other hundreds of state Universities.

In addition, the majority of the citations are from the University's own publications. This applies to just about all of the State universities. there appears to be noting unique or noteworthy about any of them. American University of mayonic Science and Technology is truly noteworthy in that it teaches something that no one else does and is guided by a famous artist and architect. You might say it is as noteworthy as the Frank Loyd wright School of architecture yet AUM S&T is even more interesting and unique.

If wiki permits all of these hundreds of run of the mill universities (who probably had their staff write the article) why not allow an accurate unedited post on AUM S&T? Furthermore, there are over a thousand unaccredited bible colleges in the US who grant degrees. Have you looked at their posts and edited in that they are not accredited? I don't mean to be rude - if I appear so please forgive me. I know you are trying to be helpful but I feel that you are picking on AUM S&T when there are thousands of other schools with far less significance than AUM S&T (historically and content wise) and you have left them alone and yet edited AUM S&T.

If you can assist me further in making this article a good and proper one I would appreciate it. If you feel it is necessary to delet the article - so be it - but you will be doing a disservice to wiki readers in my opinion.

I do appreciate your attempt to be helpful.

Warm regards, Jessie mercay — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drjmercay (talk • contribs) 14:17, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Mercay,

There are multiple issues with both the article you have written, and with the note you have written me about it.

First and foremost is your very obvious conflict of interest with the material. There is a reason that Wikipedia discourages editors from creating or editing articles about their own companies or institutions: because it is almost impossible to maintain a neutral point of view on the matter. Generally, if you feel that an article about your institution is warranted, you should request an article, and let an independent editor assess whether there is sufficient source material to produce a properly cited, neutral article.
Second, I apologize that I got the location of the school wrong. You will agree with me that your school's website makes no mention of its location. Personally, I found that a bit odd, and it gave the school a rather "fly-by-night" feel. Coupled with the lack of accreditation, it does lend a serious lack of credibility to the institution.
Third, your insistence that your university is notable is not borne out by citations to reliable sources. What this means is that no independent entity has taken a look at your university and written anything significant about it in a reliable source. Please review the Wikipedia guidelines for notability and verifiability. Other "mill univerisities" (your words, not mine) that have coverage on Wikipedia have it because independent entities have provided significant coverage. (And yes, I know that is not true in all cases. Many articles exist on Wikipedia that should not. Hopefully, other editors will find those articles and take the necessary steps. However, the existence of other bad articles on Wikpedia is not an excuse to allow this article to remain bad.

The fact that I merely tagged the article with a maintenance template rather than nominating it for deletion indicates that I agree with you that, as the sole purveyor of this particular set of arcane knowledge within the Americas, AUMS&T should be notable. The maintenance tag is intended as a note to any editors who might come across the article to see if they can improve it by providing the necessary citations. If the article remains tagged for long enough without being improved, it might then be an indication that no sources are available, at which point a deletion process can begin. That process has not yet begun, though.

As you have a conflict of interest with the material, I would discourage you from making any further edits to the page. However, you are free to make comments on the talk page regarding any further source material that might be available that other editors can than assess. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:05, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

relpy to your comment on the article Largest City-Metro populations of the Pacific Northwest

I think thats why someone made this page. For one its beacuse this region of the United States holds some of the Largest cities in the U.S, like Seattle, and Portland. I think this list is just providing good information, and there is no other page/article on wikipedia like this one (that I could find). User:Missoulian 11:58, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion declined: Sardaryzadeh

Hello WikiDan61. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Sardaryzadeh, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Ϣere SpielChequers 13:52, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CJA

I have reverted this series of edits to Federation CJA as they do no comply with Wikipedia's policies on neutrality and promotion. Also, all of the sources you added were primary sources, published by Federation CJA themselves. Please do not use Wikipedia to promote an organization, no matter how worthy the organization may be. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:09, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello WikiDan. a Big deception for me. Thank you, merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 14:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Genevieve, I don't believe I understand your use of the word "deception" in this context. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry WikiDan for my confusion, I will said Disappointment because in french,The word writes is déception ou être déçue. It is a normal human emotion after having to work on these two pages ( Federation CJA and Andres Spokoiny ). I thank you, je vous remercie, אני תודה --Geneviève (talk) 15:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AFD Suggestions

Hello. I saw you nominated Sandy Eisenberg Sasso. There are a few others like that article that you might want to consider nominating. Tirzah Firestone, Lynn Gottlieb, Goldie Milgram, and Yonassan Gershom

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If you feel there are articles that should be nominated, feel free to do so. Why ask me to nominate them rather than doing so yourself? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:03, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'Got rid of' or 'destroyed'

Hello. I see you changed back the title of 'Io sono Tony Scott etc.'. You asked me the reason for the translation 'got rid of' and I provided it to you on the 10th of December (I'm re-attaching the message below). So I don't really understand why you changed it back. I will go back to 'got rid of' not because I'm being stubborn but because, as I wrote you, this appears to be the official English language title as chosen by the makers of the documentary. It is not uncommon for a title to be somehow 'altered' in the translation, and it is standard to refer to a film with the official translated title (which is the one you need if you actually look for the film itself). I stated my reasons twice: if you insist on 'destroy', it would be fair to state your reasons for it instead of ignoring my remarks.Ma Zhenguo (talk) 14:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The italian idiom fare fuori means to do somebody in, which, luckily, is not what happened to Tony Scott (although he lived in Sicily, LOL). I believe that the translation you originally proposed, to destroy, is the one that best conveys the idea behind the title; I decided to change it "I am Tony Scott. The Story of How Italy Got Rid of the Greatest Jazz Clarinetist" because it was the tile it had at the only screening it had in an English-speaking country, Canada (see [1]), and thus I assumed that would be a title the director/producer approved (or, anyway, the "official" English title). But I totally agree with you on "destroy"!!.--Ma Zhenguo (talk) 13:48, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. I assumed that when you said "you totally agree", that you totally agreed. My bad. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:46, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah!! Sorry, I got it only now. I meant that I agreed with your literal translation, but from a methodological point of view it should be better to report the 'official' translation (although I disagree with it!!).Ma Zhenguo (talk) 15:11, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Glover v. United States Speedy deletion

I believe you made a mistake in tagging it for speedy deletion. I filled in the skeleton of the page with content. It just took a few minutes. Cheers! -- Lord Roem (talk) 00:27, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just got your response. Apologies for my error. Lord Roem (talk) 00:31, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Kopstein

Well, here we are again, WikiDan61. Re the article on Jack Kopstein. You've called it a tribute. It's not -- it's a profile. A profile of a boy who had a dream and worked diligently and hard to make it a reality. He succeeded, and the profile outlines his distinguished career as a military musician in the Canadian Forces. 35 years. That's more than most people these days stick to any job. But when he retired from the army, it didn't end there. It had been his life, and it continued being his life, but with a difference. Through his 35 years of service Jack Kopstein had realized that there was little written down about Canada's history of military music. It's an important history, for just as in most countries, where there are military forces, there is military music. Even Beethoven wrote a few military marches for the embryonic wind bands of his day. Canada was no different -- at first we had British military bands, but gradually, as we achieved nationhood and our own armed forces, so we slowly built a tradition of military music. While many of us recognized that there was little written record of the music connected to our resident military forces from the 17th century to the present, Jack Kopstein was the first to decide to rectify this. He began researching in 1959, traveled across Canada to cities and towns which had hosted military units through the centuries, visiting libraries and garrison museums, and reading through countless documents. He did this in the 4-weeks annual leave which in the service. In his off-duty hors he assembled what he had gleaned, and wrote. It took him until 1991 until he felt he had done all the research possible, and a year to write the book "When the Band Begins to Play." The Encyclopedia of Music in Canada recognized him as the authority on Canadian military music, and he contributed 14 articles to that publication. A further two books were written in collaboration with Ian Pearson, delving into different aspects of military bands and music, both published by reputable Canadian publishers. Kopstein continues today contributing articles to various military magazines around the world.

I believe it was Seaphoto who said the Kopstein article wasn't encyclopedic. True encyclopedic writing is very close to academic writing. If one hasn't struggled through a master's thesis or a doctoral dissertation, it's almost impossible to understand the style. Here below is a typical piece of writing from a published encyclopedia:

"The poem follows the poet's inner journey from simple enjoyment of nature to an exalted perception of the cosmic grandeur of nature, and then descent into doubt whether this transcendent vision may not be instead a romantic delusion. The poem closes on a subdued affirmation of nature's healing power. More generally, the poet's subjective impressions lead to generalized speculations whose validity are grounded in subjective feeling, a central expression of the romantic temper."

That's encyclopedic writing. Thank God Wikipedia doesn't sound like that. If it did, no one would read it. Wikipedia's strength is that it's readable by people in most walks of life, that it's informative, yes, but that it's infused with warmth and humanity. In articles about people you get a sense of who they were or are. If someone is suggesting that the Kopstein article is not encyclopedic enough for Wikipedia, then I would suggest that dozens, perhaps hundreds of existing Wikipedia articles should be deleted, including that on John Philip Sousa, which is even more folksy than the Kopstein piece: "Let me say that just about the sweetest music to me is when I call, ‘pull,’ the old gun barks, and the referee in perfect key announces, ‘dead’." Or how about Edwin Franko Goldman's intro: "Goldman's works are known for their pleasant and catchy tunes, as well as their fine trios and solos." "Pleasant and catchy" is encyclopedic? And then Frank Sinatra: "Dolly (his mother) nevertheless provided ready pocket money to their son for outings with friends and fancy clothes." Encyclopedic? And later in the Sinatra article it states that Sinatra was hired by Tommy Dorsey "as a replacement for Jack Leonard, who had recently left to launch a solo career." Not quite true, for Dorsey fired Leonard because of his drinking. I happen to be a Sinatra authority, appeared on the $128,000 Question in 1977 with Sinatra as my topic, winning a Buick and a nice amount of money, and in 1989 I sang at The Sands and the Imperial Palace Hotel in Vegas and was in consideration to play Sinatra in Living Legends in Concert. I declined for personal reasons.

We're all imperfect. That's what makes us human, Wikipedians included. Having dealt with many editors over my 17 years as an arts journalist, I certainly know that editors are as imperfect as everyone else, and just as opinionated and can be just as vindictive. Position doesn't change the personality. Jack Kopstein has made the most valuable contribution to military music and military bands in Canada of anyone living or dead. His life as a 35-year military musician, about which he stated: "Military music became my life. It still is the sum total of just about everything I know about life today", is the reason he had the desire and drive to make the contribution he did. That's what this profile of Jack Kopstein is about - the steps that led to this amazing contribution. Deleting his article would be a disservice to Canada's armed forces, to the history of music generally, and an insult to the life of a most dedicated human being.

If there are some edits you feel would make the piece more acceptable to you, Seaphoto, et al, please discuss this with me before you pull the plug. Thanks for reading. Arran56 (talk) 05:06, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So, the gist of your argument is that poor, non-neutral writing is more acceptable on Wikipedia than in other encyclopedias? I have to disagree. Wikipedia is written by its users, and therefore there is a vast spectrum of writing styles in articles, but there is also a manual of style. All articles should be brought into compliance with the manual of style, and that is an ongoing effort. Your article cannot be brought into compliance because there is not sufficient source material to generate a valid article. The article, as it stands, is full of non-neutral phrases, such as:

"he has become a tireless historian" (how do you know he is tireless? Maybe he really is tired of it but keeps doing it because he needs the money);
"Life in a military band was exactly what Sergeant Kopstein expected and wanted." (Unless this is a direct quote from Kopstein, there can be no way to verify it.)
"In Canadian Forces Bands this is one of the busiest." (Again, without a specific citation to the schedules of this and all other Canadian military bands, this statement is non-verifiable hyperbole.)

I could go on, but I think the point is made. Wikipedia content must be verifiable, and most of this article is not. The cited sources only indicate that Kopstein is a somewhat prolific writer on the topic of Canadian military band history. Since the article's content is not supported by its sources, and since no other sources can be found that provide any significant coverage of Kopstein (as required by Wikipedia criteria for inclusion), the article should be deleted.

If you would like to express your thoughts on this further, please direct your comments to WP:Articles for deletion/Jack Kopstein. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:24, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE Year-end Report

Season's Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors

We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2010. Read all about these in the Guild's 2010 Year-End Report.

Highlights

Membership grows to 503 editors
2,589 articles removed through four Backlog elimination drives
Our encounter with Jimbo Wales
Guild home pages reorganized and redesigned
Report on our inaugural elections
Guild Plans for 2011
New barnstars introduced
Requests page improved
Sign up for the January 2011 Backlog elimination drive!

Get your copy of the Guild's 2010 Year-End Report here On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. See you in 2011!
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Wes Maebe

the reason why i put Wes Maebe is because of his great work..he has rubbed shoulders with really big names in their rise to success..he is the man behind the scenes and i honestly think he has to be honored and noticed..due to difficulties on editing his page i ddn't manage to put everything..he has Mixed and Mastered songs for an endless list of artists..i will list down half of the artists below..not only being a producer and mixing engineer he is a player of multi-instruments drums, guitar, saxophone, violin only to mention a few.he has worked as a front of house engineer in over 300 venues and festivals all over Europe, and has toured with artists as varied as Sting, Chaka Khan, Hugh Cornwell, seminal goth band Specimen,heavy metal rockers Exit 10 and classic blues/rock singer DeborahBonham, sister of the late-lamented John. He's played John Bonham's gong..thatz a lot for one man.he is on the Board of the APRS - the Association of Professional Recording Services - and is a regular reviewer for Audio ProInternational magazine, in which he also has his own column..on google if you type his name he is going to fill uo more than 10 pages please this man deserves.

New Model Army
NYJO
Paddy Goes To Holyhead
Paul Brown
Paul Fleisher
Penny Black Remedy
Peter Murray
Pete Zorn
Philippa Davies
Pino Palladino
Praying Mantis
Prince Azim of Brunei
Raie
Ralph Salmins
Randall’s Island
Ray Russell
Reverend Basil Meade &
LCGC
Richard Cardwell
Richard Stevenson
Rick Wills
Robert Hart
Robbie Blunt
Roger Daltry
Robert Plant
Roger Waters
Roy Martin
Run DMC
Samantha Heard
Simon Allen
Simon Townshend
Snail
Sophia Ackerman
Specimen
Steve Beresford
Steve Sidwell
Stiff Little Fingers
Stiff Records
Sting
Stukahead
The Angles’ Share
The Animals
The Buzzcocks
The Essentials
The Frolick
The Kooks
Tracy Graham

-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.132.108.125 (talk) 17:43, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's an impressive list. Unfortunately, as I mentioned at WP:Articles for deletion/Wes Maebe, notability is not inherited. Just because someone has worked with notable people, that does not make them notable in and of themselves. Provide citations to reliable sources, and you might be able to convince me otherwise. Since the article has been nominated for deletion, you should make all further comments regarding its deletion or retention at its deletion discussion page. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:50, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Paul Knapman

Good Morning WikiDan61 As you are probably aware from my entry it is my first, and I would guess I havnt quite got the hang of a wikipedia article. Dr Paul Knapman,DL is Her Majesty of Englands Coroner, he is was also the Deputy Lieutenant of Greater London 2008. The role of which can be found here.

Whilst I understand (i think) the reasons for deletion i suspect it is because I have not given enough references to his notable cases.

The UK Independant Newspaper have a section about Dr Paul Knapman found here

That is not a section about Dr Kapman, that is a search result of articles in which his name appears. As I mention at the AFD, these appearances in the press do not denote notability because the articles are not about Dr Knapman.

Should I put a reference to all these.

Also references to receiving our Royal Family can be found here

Not knowing the ins and outs of the royal doings, I don't really know how notable that is, but it appears that the title of "Lord Lieutenant" is largely ceremonial and is given out rather generously. From the same reference you provided, many people "receive" the royal family in their day to day doings.

Dr Paul Knapman has served the general public and is very notable in the UK.

I might think that a person in his position would be notable, but I don't find any evidence of that in the references you have cited, or in my own Google searches.

I would appreciate any help you can give so this article maybe published

Best Regards

WebManAtTheNetShop — Preceding unsigned comment added by WebManAtTheNetShop (talk • contribs) 08:33, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the comments which I have interspersed above, I will note that you need to find evidence of significant coverage. Not brief mentions of Knapman's name in articles about other topics, but articles that are about Knapman himself. Please refer to the guidelines of WP:BIO. And, as the article has been nominated for deletion, please direct all future commentary regarding that discussion to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr Paul Knapman. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

16:51, 5 January 2011 (UTC) Hi,

My name is Nick, I'm the webmaster for The Original Tour. I've just been editing our page & am currently in the process of adding new content.

As we are the owners of the business, much of the content submitted is factually out of date, in some cases incorrect & needs updating.

Please could you advise me whether I can continue with my edits. They are totally legitimate as its the business owner making the comments.

Many thanks,

Nick

16:51, 5 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOriginalTour (talk • contribs)

As a representative of the company, it is a conflict of interest for you to directly edit the page. Factual changes can be made, but should be discussed on the talk page first. Simply deleting large swaths of material with no discussion and no edit summaries is highly discouraged.

On a different front, your username is likely to get you blocked (see WP:ORGNAME). I would suggest that you create a new account using a name that identifies you, not your organization, and edit under that name. To be fair, if you continue to edit the The Original Tour page under the new account, you should disclose your association with the organization so people can evaluate the neutrality of your edits. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vangelis Petsalis

Dear WikiDan61 I send here some info about the article Vangelis Petsalis

This composer is a well known contemporary classical musician.See for example:

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vag2 (talk • contribs) 15:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

None of those references indicate significant coverage as required by Wikipedia guidelines. Furthermore, since the article has already been nominated for deletion, you should direct any comments related to the retention or deletion of the article to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vangelis Petsalis. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:25, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Smaart

Can you take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smaart and see if it can be closed as keep? I greatly expanded the article, noting that the software is among the most popular of its type and that it won the 1998 TEC Awards in its category. Thanks in advance! Binksternet (talk) 02:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Trail Bologna

I removed the prod tag you placed on Trail Bologna as an editor explicitly objected to deletion on the talk page. Compliance with policy is the only reason I did this; I have no prejudice against opening an AfD. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 17:06, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment

Hi, I would appreciate very much your comment at Talk:Drmbon. Thanks. -- Ashot ^(talk) 21:03, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. I have no knowledge of the region with which to provide any input. Per WP:MOSNAME, articles about places should use the place name commonly used among English speakers (as this is the English Wikipedia). Hence we have an article about Germany, not about Deutschland. However, I am in no way able to weigh the arguments about the naming of a place that probably has no common usage among English speakers as it is unlikely that many English speakers have ever heard of the place. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:09, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway, thanks for your time. -- Ashot ^(talk) 08:12, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Setlist TV

My commendations for keeping your cool at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Setlist TV and making generally well-founded arguments, despite having single-purpose IPs and accounts to deal with. It's always helpful, from the point of view of the closer and readers of the AfD, to include as much information as you can in your nominating statement. I noted when deleting the article that you'd debunked a chunk of the sourcing on the talkpage - tip of the day is to shove this debunking in your nomination in the future, since it ensures people will be able to see it. Many thanks, and regards, Ironholds (talk) 04:40, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The debunking occurred after the nomination, because the sources were added after the nomination. In general, if an article is loaded with false references, I'll mention that as part of a deletion nomination. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha; noted! Ironholds (talk) 14:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mykola Bortnikov

The creator of Mykola Bortnikov has not responded to my request for further information to support the notability of this article. I cannot find anything sources that suggest why this artist is notable and as such, per WP:SNOW, I would support a second speedy deletion nomination.Polyamorph (talk) 12:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]