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Some tips to help you out!
[edit]Hi Very trivial, I thought I'd drop a few notes on your talk page with some help on writing articles :o)
First of all, it may be best for you to do a bit of reading, starting with the Wikipedia manual of style, which will give you a lot of information about how Wikipedia prefers its articles to be written. It's not as hard to follow as it might look; quite a bit of the information there probably won't be vital for you at first.
Second, I recommend you make a user sandbox - which is just an area you can use to practise in, and to make notes in, and to get things ready in. If you click this red link: user:Very trivial/Sandbox, that will let you create that page (it gives you an edit window to start work in). Anything, anywhere, on the help and information pages which gives you an example, try it out in your sandbox until you're familiar with it.
For your article, the next thing you want to do is start collecting as much information as you can about it. Google searches (particularly in Books and Scholar) will be your best friend for this! Once you've found the information, the next most important thing is to start writing up each fact in your own words (very important, this), and make a note at the same time of exactly where that information came from. Build in the references as you go along; I'm going to copy in, down below this, a whole heap of help on doing references, which was produced by one of our best teachers (Chzz).
Here's another place that you'll find incredibly useful - citation templates which you can copy and paste into your sandbox, between <ref></ref> tags; you just fill in the blanks from your sources into the template, and you'll end up with nicely formatted inline citations :o) It all helps. Remember to add a references section to your sandbox (make a new line, and put ==References== on it, and type {{reflist}} on the next line, so that you can see how your citations look as you do them. Remember to save your page often! You don't want to lose your work.
Hopefully this will give you a good start and make life easier for you.
One last thing to keep as a motto: "It's better to write one good, well-referenced, nicely-presented article than it is to create fifty unreferenced one-line stubs!" Pesky (talk …stalk!) 09:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
How references work
[edit]Simple references
[edit]These require two parts;
- a)
Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref> He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>
- b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";
== References ==
{{reflist}}
(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)
To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Very trivial/reftest and try it out.
Named references
[edit]Chzz was born in 1837. <ref name=MyBook> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref> Chzz lives in Footown.<ref name=MyBook/>
Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.
Citation templates
[edit]You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;
Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
| last = Smith
| first = John
| title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
| publication-date = 2001
| publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
| page = 125
| isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>
Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.
For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.
Something to make your life easier!
[edit]Hi there Very trivial! I've just come across one of your articles, and noticed that you might appreciate some help with references.
You might want to consider using this tool - it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script on Special:MyPage/common.js, or or Special:MyPage/vector.js, then paste the bare url (without [...] brackets) between your <ref></ref> tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for pdf documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well. Happy editing! Pesky (talk …stalk!) 09:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
July 2013
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Redirects are not for editing
[edit]Hi. You've recently edited the Kiev City State Administration (which is a WP:Redirect) with a tool, probably by mistake. Please don't. You could also find out if the tool glitched in some way. Wishes, Ukrained2012 (talk) 13:54, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry. I thought I was dealing with a double redirect created when I righteously reverted your reckless renaming of the original outline article;) You're more than welcome to develop a standalone article... which I find hardly notable for English Wikipedia. Looking forward to use it for the outline page, and to further fruitful cooperation with you elsewhere. Wishes, Ukrained2012 (talk) 10:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Ukrained2012, you may have meant "self-righteously"? I find your tone offensive — it is not very useful to use emotionally-charged language when you impute other editors with "recklessness" — especially after you neglected to notice that I had added content to the article — not rearranged it. Like you, my motives are based on improving articles, not on deliberately "stuffing up" someone else's work — my renaming was based on the fact that the article was general, and that it really needed to be part of a more specific article (or that there should be 2 articles, as both of us now recognize). This is not "unwarranted", and is not "reckless", and I trust that you will learn the requisite etiquette appropriate to the idea that the starting point for our interpretation of other people's edits should be "good faith".
- Sorry, I don't agree with your very strange to me, and certainly not mandating, opinion on that renaming issue) The scope of the article A was most evidently and undoubtedly wider and more important than the scope of the article B that you tried to simply rename it to, no matter what content you have added. Please refer Formal logic on that. However, I sincerely apologize for possibly lacking extra forbearance and softness in pointing out that most obvious fact for you. Ukrained2012 (talk) 15:36, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Although it is true that the subject is not one of the most sought-after topics on Wikipedia, 'popularity' has nothing to do with 'notability' — the organization is a significant government one and it is probably even more important for English-speaking readers to have an explanatory article about it. I was motivated to write/edit an article on it as I tried in vain to to find the correct English-language translation of the name of the organization (Київська міська державна адміністрація and some info about it for business reasons. Unfortunately, the official website for the organization is only in Ukrainian, and it does little to help in understanding the complex history and relationship between the various "councils". Finding the Ukrainian wiki article did not help me either, as there was no link to an English-language corresponding article. I think we need both articles — the specific one about the organization and your more general article which tries to untangle the mess and confusion regarding the differences between the municipal city and the government versions and their complex relationship. --Very trivial (talk) 10:29, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I never suggested to AfD your new article and I wish you all good with developing it. However, please note that the Kiev City State Administration in itself is not at all different from the other 26 regional State Administrations of Ukraine - which are supposed to be covered in the Constitution of Ukraine, Administrative divisions of Ukraine and Oblasts of Ukraine. It's the political and legal context that matters here in Kiev, not the KMDA itself. Which is exactly the reason for my reluctance to develop your new article with you. Happy edits, Ukrained2012 (talk) 15:36, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
September 2013
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November 2013
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Wikilinking
[edit]Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia.
I noticed you worked on this article:
https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Max_Germaine&diff=599705532&oldid=598188582
Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:
- dates
- years
- commonly known geographical terms (including well-known country-names), and
- common terms you’d look up in a dictionary (unless significantly technical).
(This even applies for infoboxes.)
Thanks and my best wishes.
Tony (talk) 10:46, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
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