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An RfC on the administrator resysop criteria was closed. 18 proposals have been summarised with a variety of supported and opposed statements. The inactivity grace period within which a new request for adminship is not required has been reduced from three years to two. Additionally, Bureaucrats are permitted to use their discretion when returning administrator rights.
Hi, your addition does come across as a content issue, not a format issue. It contradicts the preceding instructions and belongs under instructions for prep builders, not for nominators. Personally I don't think it's even necessary to mention. Best, Yoninah (talk) 13:44, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Yoninah The reason I mention it is that we had a recent argument that shorter is always preferred over longer. I'm open to any solution that keeps someone from arguing, and supporting that argument with policy written twelve years ago before we put in the 200-character limit, and thereby causing long discussions requiring consensus for each individual case. --valereee (talk) 13:48, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Since this section is for hook writers, not prep builders, you could write something like:
* The hook should be concise. The character count (including spaces and the question mark, but not including the ... or any (pictured) should not exceed 200 characters. In general, shorter, punchy hooks are preferable to long, narrative hooks that tell the reader everything they need to know about the subject. The objective is to "hook" the reader into clicking on the article.
Hi Valereee, I wrote about something quite American, and would like to have some more American eyes on it so I haven't left in some British (or German) nonsense (haven't lived in the US for quite a while now). I'd be happy to see if you have any comments (or better DYK hooks, I'm not good with those). Happy editing —Kusma (t·c) 11:28, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Diverse doesn't mean half the people say toMAYto and the other half say toMAHto. It means some like fresh tomatoes, some only use canned, a couple ask for tomato juice, Isarra wants a Bloody Mary, and hopefully we end up with at least one person in the room who can describe the process of making ketchup at home from scratch. — User:Valereee
Diversity isn't about polarizing viewpoints, but actual diversity. It's something that seems obvious, but your analogy helped me realize that. So, I'm awarding this barnstar so you know the greater impact those words had on me. Clovermoss (talk) 14:26, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
DBigXray, I'm trying to assume good faith, but my first reaction to the statement that 'these ESL article ALWAYS have questionable grammar and require constant attention while on the main page' was that it could be perceived as bigotry. --valereee (talk) 14:47, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I was able to understand that last part. but Agree all you want, I read articles before rushing to pile "support" on some "very important" bullshit if that's not good enough for y'all I don't know what to tell you." ?? that was some cryptic language being used there, I am not bothered to ask him what he actually meant, for fear of more such unpleasant comments, which I would rather avoid, So I asked you.--DBigXrayᗙ14:55, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
DBigXray, to me it seemed like they were making the assumption that supporters hadn't read the article but instead were supporting because of ulterior motives? Not sure. Clearly I've read the article, so I took exception to that, lol. --valereee (talk) 16:58, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
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Oh, drat. Maile once mentioned where the page is, and I can't find it. It's a simple edit of the numbers on that page. I'll keep looking. Yoninah (talk) 00:47, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I just can't find it. Hopefully another admin will manually update at 12:00 tomorrow. Do you have time to move a prep set into the queue so we can start filling a new set? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:53, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
It's not the move, it's the check I don't have time for -- I still have the last four hooks/articles of Queue 6 to check, am going to try to fit that in tomorrow before the rest of the family wakes up. --valereee (talk) 01:05, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Ugh, and the next one has ten articles to check, and already I can see the credits aren't in the right order which likely means at least one inexperienced prep setter, which means closer checking. I'm sorry, probably not tonight. --valereee (talk) 01:11, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune.
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Sorry, Ivar the Boneful, I thought about posting a query at DYK talk as I was checking that set, as I usually do so before making anything that seems like a significant change, but this seemed so clearly more-correct per both the article and the sources (that he didn't win it but was posthumously awarded it) that I decided not to ping people to DYK talk on Christmas Day when I wasn't even sure whether I'd be able to get back before it ran to make what seemed like a clear improvement. It felt nitpicky to me to object to it rather than just fix it. Apparently I misread what I thought would be clear to all; what about the change did you object to? To me it seemed clearly more accurate, to the point that the original hook seemed unintentionally misleading, almost. --valereee (talk) 15:20, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
DYK
Hi Valereee, hope you had a good Christmas. Noticed you user page says you are on vacation, I've pinged you on the DYK talk page and if you could reply when you get the time I would really appreciate it, thank you Steven (Editor) (talk) 00:41, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
We have got an user, who seem to havealongstandingpattern of using rhetorical edit summaries, often transgressing into personal attacks. Some words from an admin might be needed, in that my template-warning did not work out, as apparent from the continuation over here. Please deal in a manner, as you deem fit :)∯WBGconverse16:53, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
You're probably not aware of this change, but Days of the Year pages now require direct sources for additions. For details see the content guideline, the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide or the edit notice on any DOY page. Almost all new additions without references are now being reverted on-sight but I've gone ahead and added one for the death of James Beard.
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The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted rather than reasonably construed.
The pilot in command of an aircraft is the person aboard who is ultimately responsible for its operation and safety during flight. This would be the captain in a typical two- or three-pilot aircrew, or "pilot" if there is only one certificated and qualified pilot at the controls of an aircraft.
Hi, I know things are moving rapidly on a 2-a-day schedule, but there's a discussion about the last hook in this set (Fountain of the Pear Tree Canals) over at WT:DYK and the hook needs to be rewritten. Would you mind swapping it with Rumcajs in Prep 1 so we can work on it? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 14:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
On 12 January 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Mike Resnick, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:20, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi, valereee. I noticed that you encountered some opposition at WP:ERRORS, and I just wanted to drop by to tell you that, as I see it, you did everything perfectly right. You temporarily added a compromise image so the DYK section wouldn't look so... uh... naked without a picture while the discussion was ongoing, you offered up an alternative compromise for people to peruse, and ultimately restored the original image when you determined that there was consensus to do so. Thank you for this, and all of your thoughtful and conscientious work on DYK. MANdARAX•XAЯAbИAM07:31, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Mandarax, thanks! I felt like it was a reasonable progression, too. I think the objection to the compromise image was simply that once there was some image there, people might stop discussing or find the issue less urgent, but I didn't want to just revert without figuring out what was going on, as the editor who removed the image is a respected contributor and I don't think they'd have removed it for no reason. --valereee (talk) 12:12, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi Valereee! Hope you're doing well. I wanted to follow up on the Cincinnati Art+Feminism edit-a-thon that took place in December; I've included a line item about it in January's Ohio Wikimedians newsletter. If you have more details and stats about the outcomes of the event, it would be great to include them. Thank you! ~SuperHamsterTalkContribs00:24, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi, SuperHamster! I'll try to figure out what might be worth adding! It was my first edit-a-thon and the organizer had no WP experience, so I was mostly focussed on training. --valereee (talk) 00:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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Cleveland Museum of Art Open Access Anniversary Campaign — January 23rd (today!) is the one-year anniversary of the Cleveland Museum of Art's Open Access program. To celebrate, we are hosting an editing campaign (with postcard souvenirs!) from now through February 9. Help expand and create articles related to the Cleveland Museum of Art (including artists and artworks featured in their collection), and receive a postcard from the Museum. If you'd like to participate, check out the task list and sign up on the event page.
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In December, the Cincinnati Art Museum hosted an Art+Feminism edit-a-thon. The museum was an excellent place to have an edit-a-thon, with a café and staff who were helpful in setting up and ensuring there were enough tables, outlets, and plenty of resource materials available. There was a related exhibit, Women Breaking Boundaries, that was of interest to attendees. In total, 9 people attended.
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