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Nice work!

A Barnstar!
The Epic Barnstar
For great contributions to history topics and for spreading a healthy passion for historyInge 15:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I just wanted to let you know I read your long entry to Comanches talk page. I thought it was great! I support and share your views wholeheartedly and I hope your attitude towards history will spread itself to more people. The barnstar is well deserved for all your other edits, but the essay made it necesary. Inge 15:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Inge. I've replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 22:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Ngwane IV & a question

Hello Valentinian, I answered your message about Ngwane IV on my talk page. Thanks for the help.

A question: I cannot seem to use the tildes to sign my name. When I click the link below the dialogue boxes nothing happens, and the relevant key-cap on my keyboard doesn't seem to work in my browser. I did however manage to create linked signature in replying to you on my talk page by pasting the format of your signature in the edit box and substituting my user name.

Do you have any idea why the link to click for 4 tildes wouldn't work? Thanks

Cclowe

Replied on your talk page Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 10:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you for the barnstar. I really appreaciate the recognition and working on sorting stubs alongside you. Thank you again!--Thomas.macmillan 17:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, Thomas. I have been pretty frustrated with the African material, so I'm delighted you are cleaning it up. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

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Wikiproject Eritrea

I would just really like to thank you for the work that you have started doing on the Wikiproject Eritrea! This is great! --Merhawie 21:17, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I've replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 07:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Long-Overdue RfA Thanks from Alphachimp

 Thanks for your support in my not-so-recent RfA, which was successful with a an overwhelmingly flattering and deeply humbling total of 138/2/2 (putting me #10 on the RfA WP:100). I guess infinite monkey theorem has been officially proven. Chimps really can get somewhere on Wikipedia.

With new buttons come great responsibility, and I'll try my best to live up to your expectations. If you need assistance with something, don't hesitate to swing by my talk page or email me (trust me, I do respond :)). The same goes for any complaints or comments in regard to my administrative actions. Remember, I'm here for you.

(Thanks go to Blnguyen for the incredible photo to the right.) alphaChimp laudare 01:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Viogfernos' conduct

I have created an RFC regarding Viogfernos' behaviour here; it deals specifically with his incivility and his persistent mislabelling of bonafide edits by other users as vandalism. I noticed he has labelled some of your edits on his talk page as vandalism, and though you might be interested to comment. Thanks, Fuzzypeg☻ 01:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology

The WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology has just been created. Why not take a look? I hope you can join. Inge 17:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation. Great idea, I have already signed up. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:49, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for joining :) I was surprised to find no such project existed. I was first looking around for a solution to the problems that will arise when all images from the Flags of the World website are deleted. I see many are tagged for speedy deletion already. The project could be useful for solving that problem among many other things and it's nice to see it's found interesting by several editors already. Inge 22:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 23:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

coat of arms

I felt that one image is best, aesthetically. The two you mentioned fail fair use and should not be reinstated, but if you want to add the British one or replace the Serbian one altogether, feel free to undo what I've done. - CrazyRussian talk/email 22:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, I love the way the Serbian COA looks! - CrazyRussian talk/email 22:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
OIC... No, I didn't see a problem. - CrazyRussian talk/email 05:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Template:GeorgiaPresidents

I agree with the addition of the border, but shouldn't we get it all on one line again? I'm not sure how to do that, but maybe you can. Biruitorul 22:33, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Axis Powers

Thank you so much for your contribution on the talk page. I know you just wanted to chip in but you really helped out a lot more than you might be aware of. Hopefully the page can soon be unprotected and we can move forward with our planned rewamping of the article. We really need more people like you to clear things up though. MartinDK 19:44, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :) Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 20:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I know what happened now; the website was put on the Meta Spam Blocklist, so we were not able to edit the article any futher until the link was removed. I find this strange, but I will investigate later. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 13:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

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Cyril Mango

Just wondering why you categorised him as American? The lengthier German version says he's British, as is his brother Andrew Mango --JBellis 21:24, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Oops, my mistake. Fixed it. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

TRNC-stub

Yeah, SFD. Of course, if the consensus against is sufficiently clear, one might be bold and just speedy it... Alai 16:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Battle of Heligoland

The general convention has been to try and reduce clutter by pushing out those categories which are applicable to everything in a by-war sub-category onto it (see WP:MILHIST#Categorizing entire sub-categories). This leads to uneven category placement in cases where one country is present at every battle in a war (and thus gets pushed out onto the war category), while other countries are only present at selected battles, and thus cannot be similarly applied to the entire category. Kirill Lokshin 13:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 19:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: your edit to a template page

South Africa geo stubs was changed to suit a new unwritten convention which intentionally makes the phrase move a tad to the right. I however appreciate it that you tried to improve it. I hereby change it back to the new version. See ya. --Adriaan90 13:42, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 19:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh ok, I came to the "unwritten convension" conslusion after I found quite a few stub templates with the indentation or whatever it's called. But I think all of them have changed since. Thanks for your deal in this. --Adriaan90 19:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. --Adriaan90 20:09, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Needed Class

Hi,

I saw you've been trying to get the Needed-class working in the WP:HV template. I haven't looked in detail at what you've tried, but from a quick look at m:ParserFunctions, it seems to me you want something like 


 {{ifexist:{{SUBJECTPAGENAME}}|

 do stuff if it exists

 |

 do stuff if it doesn't exist

 }}

so maybe the following would work 

{{ifexist:{{SUBJECTPAGENAME}}|
 <!-- If article exists-->
 {{{!}} class="messagebox standard-talk" 
 {{!}}-
 {{!}} [[Image:Nuvola apps filetypes.png|right|45px]]
 {{!}} This article "[[{{SUBJECTPAGENAME}}]]" was previously identified as needed, but now that the article exists, please reassess it.
 {{!}}} [[Category:Needed-Class heraldry and vexillology articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
 |
 <!-- if article doesn't exist -->
 {{{!}} class="messagebox standard-talk" 
 {{!}}-
 {{!}} [[Image:Nuvola apps filetypes.png|right|45px]]
 {{!}} The article "[[{{SUBJECTPAGENAME}}]]" has not yet been written and has been identified as needed. Admins: Please don't delete this talk page as it contains information relating to the creation of a new article.
 {{!}}}}[[Category:Needed-Class heraldry and vexillology articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
}}

Keep up the good work! Dr pda 21:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I was just writing you a note to say I had got it working, but you beat me to it! I changed the behaviour of the portal parameter as well to point to the existing Portal:Heraldry/Selected article archive, instead of the (not-existent) queue. Dr pda 23:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Mop?

Hi there! I've noticed your extensive and competent contributions to diverse areas of Wikipedia. As such I was wondering if you were interested in a nomination for adminship. Yours, >Radiant< 12:24, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the thought, I appreciate it. However, 2/3s of my edits are of wikignomish nature, and I have a FA count of nought. And neither historians nor stub sorters wikignomes seem to have been very popular candidates in previous nominations. So all in all, it is probably better to decline this offer. For the while anyway. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 22:04, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry to hear that but of course I respect your decision. However, I wish to point out that gnoming is strongly approved of in admin candidates, and opposing people for having no featured articles is pretty much frowned upon (indeed, I have no FAs myself either). Do let me know if you change your mind, in May 2007 or earlier. Yours, >Radiant< 08:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, I might have got hold on the wrong end of the stick. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 09:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
  • RFA appears to have been overly negative for a few months, but it seems to be back to normal again. As a side point, if/when you're going to read policies or guidelines you're unfamiliar with, I would like to hear your opinion of them, in particular as to which parts are confusing, counterintuitive or contradictory. Oh, and of course Wikipedia is not supposed to be a book of law so p/g should be treated by spirit, not by strict ruling. Which is good because it saves on the memorization time :) >Radiant< 11:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Battle Stub

Can you please take a look at the articles in the category "United States military stubs" that begin with the term "Operation" and the articles in the category "Military operations" ? I understand your reluctance to change things but please take a look at the operations and see if they are really battles. Please respond either here or on my talk page. Thank you -- Skapur 22:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 23:00, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
I have posted a request to Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2006/October and Alai has responded. You may want to add any suggestions you have to that proposal. --- Skapur 06:15, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Done. I can support both ideas, but Alai's is perhaps better than my own. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 07:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Muchas gracias

Hey Valentinian, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 03:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Copenhagen (1807)

Thanks for telling me what to do; I've gone and done it. See User talk:Chris Chittleborough#Battle of Copenhagen (1807) and Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2006 October 21/Articles. Someone should check my last edit to Battle of Copenhagen (1807), please. Thanks again, CWC(talk) 12:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Your edit is 100% correct. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 13:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the anti-vandalism work! :) Grutness...wha? 21:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Anytime my friend. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the star!

I feel much better now. Thanks for your support. Cheers, Pegship 22:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. See you around. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 22:39, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

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A big thank you

Thank you so much for taking the trouble to explain and for your input. I did not have a problem with the special charchter though (I am a staunch advocate of diacritics et al.), I was just wondering if that was to be be a probable title (since I do not know any Danish, I also did not know whether the word was a coined one or merely a synonym for something in English - for example, Ţara Românească is the term in use for Wallachia in Romanian, but English-speaking source would use the former; thank you for clarifying that too). So, I'll be linking to Cooperative movement in Denmark then.

In effect, aside from (as far as I know) a few experiments in the hills just south of the Southern Carpathians (I think), cooperation took no hold in pre-1945 Romania. Your wonderfully detailed explanation of the phenomenon partly explained why this was the case. Aside from the world of difference in geography (although it is possible that Denmark and Romania were at comparable levels from that POV in the early 1800s), Romania was probably one of the countries exporting a massive grain surplus, and pretty much dependent on the export. This was happening at a time when peasants actually owning lucrative land were a strange occurance (before 1920, they in the pay of landlords - after 1920, I think that only too few were considering cooperation, given that they had just obtained their very own plot and, if not making much, they were making enough).

The agrarian politicians I mentioned (Peasants' Party (Romania)) wanted to present the Danish example (as they understood it) as a means to ensure the preservation of the small property system that they wanted to create (for comparison, a limited land reform in the 1860s had seen most peasants either sell or lose their land, because of the successful competition from landowners in the grain trade). That was before 1920, when they were theoritizing on what the post-land reform society should be; after 1920, they cited the Danish example in order to offer an alternative to the push for industrialization and the corrupt institution the industry benefitted first and foremost (I've detailed some of that attitude on the Virgil Madgearu article). It was also important for them to take distance from some issues and present theirs as a traditional party; many accused them of being crypto-Bolsheviks (citing the case of the Bulgarian Agrarian National Union and other Krestintern parties), and King Ferdinand of Romania tended to believe these detractors (that is why the Peasants' Party was not in power for as long as the man was alive). So, they wanted a "clean", "Western" example", to show that they did not turn towards Moscow (they probably never did, but some weird links were always present). They picked your country for their poster boy, but one may never know if they actually thouh of copying Denmark.

They were relative failures in politics, especially since their first time in government coincided with the Great Depression... The only form of cooperation actually came as collectivization in the 1950s, and effectively returned my country to feudalism.

Again, many thanks. Keep up the excellent work. Dahn 12:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 23:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Very interesting insight. I can see why people like Constantin Stere were using the analogy in front of a conservative government in my country, but I don't they were right in assuming that conditions could have been replicated here. But there are interesting parallels: the system of dividing land within the comunity, some of it limited to seasonal "ownership", was also the rule in villages in Romania. The main difference is that Romanian landowners were comfortably producing grain to sell in Europe, and that any price was advantageous for them (they had a monopoly on labour, transport, and even violence for far too long after what is now Romania was allowed to trade with markets other than Ottoman - by 1829) - this was, of course,for lands outside the community reserve.
Thanking you again. Happy editing and keep in touch. Dahn 23:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Template:WSS

Will it be disrupting process to remove the duplicate list from this template? What bothers me by having it there is that it including it makes it look like WP:WSS has approved this thing.

I don't think there's much problem removing the template from the page - you're right, it does imply that WSS had something to do with the page. Most deletion process pages allow editing of a page during the discussion process. It's not as though you're talking of blanking the page. Grutness...wha? 23:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 23:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh! I didn't realise it was even on that - no I don't see any problem with removing it from there, either - that definitely suggests that it's an official WSS page. I thought you meant removing {{WSS}} from the new page - sorry! Grutness...wha? 23:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 23:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Norwegian

When I did it we were only taught Norwegian, but I guess it makes sense that people from Värmland (me) would be taught Norwegian while those from Skåne would be better off with some Danish. -Obli (Talk)? 17:40, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Re Denmark

Hi Valentinian,
Thanks for your message with alert:

...It seems fairly obvious that you wish [the info]boxes to follow a common format, so I'm not going to attempt editing the content myself...

Just trying to follow the format that already seems in place...

...but please update the section regarding the royal motto. "Guds hjælp, folkets kærlighed, Danmarks styrke" is merely the personal motto of HM the Queen, it is not a national motto and Denmark never had any such thing...

Thanks for letting me know; I must've missed what would otherwise be a self-referential motto, i.e. Denmark, "God's help, the people's love," and... "Denmark's strength"...?...!  Have now amended it, hopefully satisfactorily. Best wishes, David Kernow (talk) 23:36, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:HV

I was pondering our large number of members compared to the number of active participants and felt a debate should be started. But I feel words on such a matter should be well thought through. I don't want to scare anyone away :). Could you take a look here and tell me what you think before I post it on the discussion page?Inge 12:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied elsewhere. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types index

I'm still not sure I like the idea about multiple stub lists but have you seen the new version?

Thanks for that - no I hadn't. it's a definite improvement, but i'm still not entirely convinced. If there's some way of making it editable only by script (so that we don't get discrepancies all the time) it could be useful, though. Grutness...wha? 23:32, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

mando

great work on the history section. i have nommed this article for DYK and given you a credit or your work. its on under nov 3, the date it graduated from a stub. if you can think of a better hook line, have at it. cheers. Covalent 03:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Nice going! Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 01:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

National emblem of Belarus

Thank you for the copyediting of the article. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, and I've done a bit more. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
I looked at what you said and I fixed nearly everything. As for the sources, there is no netrual sources, or no mention on who created the current state emblem. But I am still looking. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
The national emblem has no designer. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Reply from MartinDK

Thanks! It can be frustrating at times but I have decided to direct my attention to the backlog of pages tagged as original research. No one seems to be looking at them but there are over 1000 of them and some of them are quite old and wrongly tagged. I read the cold fusion debate... and I must say that you are right! Anyways, just wanted to say thanks and happy editing. MartinDK 14:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually

The nominator changed his mind and withdrew it. You are welcome to refile one, there was no decision made other than the nominator removed his nomination.  Glen  18:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 19:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

{{Uzbekistan-geo-stub}}

Wow! The new Uzbekistan geo stub image sure looks nifty. Got plans to do the same with the other Central Asia geo stubs? I, for one, would welcome it. Aelfthrytha 17:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 23:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thought you might be interested to know of commons:Category:Flag_maps --Dr pda 23:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the hint! Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome. Great minds must think alike, I've just come back from Commons where I saw you also putting some of the other stub pictures into the Flag maps category :) Umm, which image of Canada? --Dr pda
Oh OK, I thought you meant one I had created :) Dr pda 00:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
My bad, sorry. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Those four are pretty fancy - any chance of getting one for Mongolia? Aelfthrytha 02:49, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Count Ulrik of Rosenborg

Nope, no problems with it at all, thanks for letting me know! I got the spelling from http://www3.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal19375 which, although it seems to be incorrect would I suppose count as verification! It seems sometimes that as long as something is verifiable it makes little difference whether or not its true! (grins). As an aside, would you happen to have any idea of the level of kinship between Queen Margrethe and the various Counts/Countesess of Rosenborg? Saying they are the great X3 grandchild of Christian IX is asking for trouble from the notability police.... Cheers, Jcuk 23:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 23:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
recieved and duly noted, thanks very much :> Jcuk 07:26, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Baltic emporia

Valentinian, I am going to update the coverage of this neglected topic over the following days. Then the mistery of Alaborg and Syrnes will be solved. Cheers, Ghirla -трёп- 07:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. It was a very interesting article. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Bordering Greenland Flag

It's been successfully uploaded and bordered. If you want any more flags bordering you know where to find me. User:Tom from 8L

Thanks a lot! Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


Viking Ring Castles

Hi!

It has been some time since my last request for help on the Viking ring castles, april to be precise. There have been efforts to flesh out the articles in the german and english wikipedia and as of now Scorpius59 is translating into french.

I wonder if you (or anybody else fluent in danish) could add some more to the danish counterparts, maybe using the german and english versions, or even better using more detailed danish sources, so we can get our hands on more info ;-). A more direct question would be wether you could find out what the "functioning" date of the oak spade was that was found at Nonnebakken. It is mentioned in this source: Fund og Fortidsminder (Central register of cultural history). (Would also be nice if you could check wether the source was missunderstood anywhere, as my danish is rather poor.) --T.woelk 10:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Finland stubs

Thankyou for stub sorting my finnish actors. Soon there will be ten times that amount there. I am setting up the template finnish film stubs as I am doing the A-Z of it gradually I am started with aa and done a few already. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:03, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks but could you find the right categories for Template:Finland-film-stub and also see if you can alter it so like Template:France-film-stub it has a film thing over the finnish flag. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I have sorted the designs for the stubs I have corrected the existing Finland-tv-stub so it has the finnish flag next to the TV Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Done (x2) Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 22:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on the stub categories. I have just set up Template:Darts-stub amazingly it wasn't set up yet and there are many darts stubs which don't have this stub cat yet. Also as you known I am going through finnish film and am coming across Finnish film and TV directors. I have a suspicion I haven't checked yet that there is not even a category Euro-film-director-stub that even exists. I propse a new category Template:Finland-film-director-stub as eventually there will be many!! in this cat. How would you set this up with the finnish flag and maybe something film related? Use the same structre as Finland-actor-stub with changed wording? But there are a number of TV directors in Finland that don't fall under film how does This article about a Finnish film director or TV director is a stub.? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

What you seem a little hasty? A little annoyed at my work? I started darts-stub so it can also be used for a darts dournament or technique or venue or whatever as well as for a player. SURELY dart-bio-stub couldn't be used for these. Then once the articles grow and expand and the category fills then it can be sorted darts-bio-stub etc. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes I totally agre with you about letting other know in discussion as it does save osrting later. I'll post the darts and finland director ones on there now Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

:Sounds great. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 19:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Terribly sorry. I must have missed half of your reply the first time I read it. I had no intention of being rude so please accept my apologies if you feel offended in any way. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 02:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

ha yeah I'll have to agree with you there I personally am not a great darts fan I am very much an outdoor person nothing better than surfing. Its just I happened to see darts was not very well covered and thought I would help it a bit. I wouldn't call darts and snooker a real sport baby!! But darts as other sports have different tournaments every years different referees, different venues different darts equipment different techniques different players etc - clearly there is more than just players. This is why I thought it wise to use darts-stub. Apology accepted - I'll propoese my stub categories from now on. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 10:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks (x2). Sorry we got our wires crossed. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 11:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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Transnistria-stub

Very interesting. I'd like to know who closed that - the vote seems to have been 5-4 in favour of deletion. Looks like it needs re-submitting to sfd. I note also from Conscious's list that there seem to be some very underpopulated Ossetia stub types around too... Grutness...wha? 04:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)¨

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 10:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I welll remember the problems with Kosovo-geo-stub. I don't feel game to tackle this one yet, and there is an Ossetia WikiProject. It'll need to be dealt with sometime, though. Grutness...wha? 11:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Africa-bio-stub

Hi, Valentinian. I was getting ready to propose a new stub type, Cameroon-bio-stub, so I was going through Category:Cameroon stubs and tagging various biographical stubs with Africa-bio-stub as well. However, I was informed on my talk page that this note was in place at Category:African people stubs:

Note: Please only use this tag if a national template is not available. E.g. please tag a person from Benin with {{Benin-stub}} but not {{Africa-bio-stub}}.

In the history for the stub category, you added the note, so I was just curious what the thinking was behind it. Typically, an overcrowded category (as Africa-bio-stub would otherwise be) is an indicator looked for by the Stub Sorting folks that new sub-stubs are necessary. Thanks, — BrianSmithson 13:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The Hebrew Hammer 2

No problem. Prodego talk 02:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Infobox Former Subdivison

As you discovered, the links at the top of the infobox are not shown if the linked entry does not exist. This was not intended, and came as a surprise when I upgraded the Schleswig-Holstein infobox yesterday. The upgraded Former Subdivision infobox contains a lot of features from the Former Country infobox (which receives the most of our attention), and I had honestly never noticed that feature before but I can understand why it was put there.

These red links will need to be taken care of at some point. As a temporary solution, I have commented out the county entries that don't have links and added a link to Northern Schleswig. At the moment, Northern Schleswig just redirects to South Jutland County but if a separate entry is written about Northern Schleswig to cover the period before it became South Jutland County, describing the four counties involved, then that might solve the problem. What do you think? - 52 Pickup 08:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Oops!

My bad! I misread and thought it said he. Fixed, now. Thanks. =) Nishkid64 03:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I made that mistake too. I read her name as Lithuanian. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 03:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

new stub picture

Turkmenistan stub picture for you

Hi,

I did first stub picture from your list. Rest will be till end of week, I hope.--PaD cs:✉ 03:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Wonderful! The image looks great. Thanks a lot. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 09:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Parliamentarism in Denmark

When was parliamentarism introduced in Denmark? Inge 14:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 16:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


Maria Feodorovna (Sophie Dorothea of Württemberg)

Hi Valentinian,

thanks for helping with this article. As Dane, I guess, you can understand how annoying the general ignorance towards names and words with slashs and dots is.--Tresckow 03:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Europäer aller Länder, vereinigt Euch! (grin). Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 08:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


Battle of Dybbøl

As far as I know only Holstein was part of the German Confederation (a map I added on this site also shows this clearly). The GC only bestowed A-H and Prussia with the execution of its orders. HOwever, I will check Meyers Konversationslexikon about this. I see you are interested in heraldry and flags. If you need work when translating something German maybe I can assist you.--Tresckow 12:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


Schleswig-Holstein

March 18th 1848 in Rendsburg deputies of the Stände of Schleswig-Holstein demanded a constitution, a parliament and the admission of Schleswig to the GC. March 26th the interim government of Schleswig asked for admission in the GC which was granted on April 12th. Of course the 1st Schleswig war didnt work out well for them so this never really had any consequences. In Oktober 1853 Schleswig was declared a part of Denmark and Holstein part of the GC with the danish king as souvereign.

Now the Eider crossing. Tricky subject. It seems you r right. The GC and the new duke Friedrich VIII didnt respect the London Protocoll. But Austria and Prussia did, this much to the dismay of the GC. It seems Bismarck acted this way because he new Denmark wouldnt follow it anyway. It couldnt because of the question of succession to the danish king. This way Denmark stood in the eyes of the world and in the firstline of GB as the part that broke the contract while Prussian and Austria wanted to comply. At least officially. But the GC couldnt follow this strange position because of patriotic sentiments in Germany and refused on January 14th 1864 to follow the further steps of P and A. When Christian IX sanctioned the new eiderdanish constitution Pand A declared this a violation of the london Protocol and gave Denmark an Ultimatum of 48 hours to withdraw it within 48 hours. Denmark was confident of English support and german weakness and refused to do so on January 18th, thus giving P and A a reason to attack as now they declared not to have any reason to respect the LP if Denmark wouldnt anyway. A and P troops crossed the border. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tresckow (talk • contribs) 01:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Interesting. I'll have to analyse this a bit. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 17:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Kvajebajer

Jep, du har fortjent en øl/vand efter eget ønske. jf. denne edit [[1]] -Angelbo 10:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Den glæder jeg mig til. :) Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 10:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

RE stubs

Just short answer on my talk page.--PaD cs:✉ 01:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Article in Politiken Tuesday, Dec. 5, 2006

In the event that you have not seen it yet, Politiken's Jens Lenler has written about our little encounter with the fictive Danish kommune Æblerød in an article "Verdens største leksikon- og største fejlrisiko?" on Tuesday, Dec. 5, 2006. Best regards. --SFDan 06:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. My library must have a copy. :) Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 02:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

New Ryūkyū vs. Ryukyu poll

Hello. You participated in the Ryūkyū Islands vs. Ryukyu Islands vote that resulted in no consensus at Talk:Ryūkyū Islands. That vote is being redone at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(Japan-related_articles)#Poll:_.22Ry.C5.ABky.C5.AB.22_instead_of_.22Ryukyu.22. . If you still have an opinion, please participate in the new poll before it is concluded. Bendono 00:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I have started the Template:Argentina-film-stub template. there is no need for discussion becauseI am going through Argentine films there are hundreds and rather than waste time the stub cat should be used now rather than haaving to change them all later. I'll tell her pegship. But please could you adjust like you did with finland to the flag inside the film . Thanks Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll let them know so as you said before everyone knows what exists Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Bad Idea?

I could use an assist (maybe two). I have a pet peeve, and thought I'd come up with a good concept for making chides to editors who leave incomplete documentation trails by creating sort of a wet diaper award. It seems to be drawing some adverse reactions, and even before I'd spammed a request to some others like this for brainstorming on how to shorten same and evolve it, as I'm not happy with it either. Subsequently, it's already drawn fire (here) before I could ask in help and get suggestions. Can you take a look and comment here. There has to be some way to let people know 'shallow edit actions' that reflect poorly on our pages need a talk note justification, no exceptions, thankyou. Much appreciated // FrankB 23:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I've voted on the relevant page. I think you should simply send people a small message if needs be. If this doesn't help, ask an administrator for good ideas. Regards. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 23:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Haitian writers

The bot's finished its run by now; hopefully it doesn't make much difference which you retag them from... If this shrinks the category so much that it's no longer viable, feel free to upmerge the template. Alai 21:22, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to Category:Theatres in Denmark

Your recent edit to Category:Theatres in Denmark (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 10:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

A lot of irrelevant text does not belong in category space. Knock it off bot. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 10:39, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Danish Elections template

Hi, thanks for the info. Would you suggest splitting it into three boxes (one for the Landsting, one for the Folketing and one for the Riksdag (similar to the Norwegian Elections one but with 3 boxes)), or just include elections for the Riksdag?

Another possibility is if either of the Folketing or Landsting was thought of as the true "parliament" (which one had the Prime Minister for example), perhaps that one should be included? Number 57 21:38, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 23:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi again

Sounds like a good idea, I will probably change it to:

  • Danish Folketing Elections (list of years)
  • Danish Landsting Elections (list of years)
  • Danish Referenda (list of years)

I tend to leave European parliament elections out of the templates, as they, alongside local elections, do not really interfere with the running of the national parliament, and they have their own page (see the 2004 one here).

Do you have any data on Landsting election years? Or referenda?

Thanks, Number 57 22:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 23:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Re ...Danish subdivisions

Hi Jesper,

I just noticed your template about administrative divisions. Denmark is in the middle of implementing an administrative reform effective January 1, 2007...

Thanks for your message; I was aware something was underway – and, following January 1, will try to update whatever on my watchlist is affected – but am hoping folk such as yourself will know and be able to confirm far more than I!  Best wishes, David Kernow (talk) 04:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Dear Valentian. Thank you for giving me your support. I am happy that you as a Scandinavian approve of my contributions to Scandinavian matters.--Berig 11:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Denmark as Axis Power

I edited the Denmark section to reflect your valid concern. British mining of Norwegian and Danish waters was a pretext, not the reason for the German occupation. Please do not eliminate other material without explanation. Thank you! Scando 15:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I've removed that page from my watchlist. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Denmark Wikifun

I think we should have WikiFun for members of Denmark WikiProject. Please respond. Laleenatalk to me contributions to Wikipedia 21:22, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 17:52, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Agathoclea's RfA

Hello, and thank you for the support on my recent RfA. The final tally was 63/3/2, and I have now been entrusted with the mop. I hope I can live up to your trust, and certainly welcome any and all feedback. All the best, and thanks again! — Agathoclea 13:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue X - December 2006

The December 2006 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 23:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm just curious as to why you removed the immigration links I added to the Iceland article? I felt they were valuable. --Ebryn 00:20, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:27, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, those are links to government offices. How much more official can it get? The exception is that one of them is to an organization that provides a lot of important practical information regarding living/working in Iceland. Did you look at the links before reverting? --Ebryn 00:33, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:55, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

{{WWII-battle-stub}}

I read the license of this image: Image:Polish infantry.jpg used in the template above and it seems it can be used in the stub category template. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 00:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 00:55, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
RE: This is original fair usage from that page: "Materiały te mogą być nieodpłatnie wykorzystywane przez zagraniczne media i organizacje pozarządowe, pod warunkiem, iż służyć będą do celów promocji Polski zgodnie z kierunkami polskiej polityki zagranicznej oraz, że nie będą wykorzystywane przez te podmioty do osiągania korzyści majątkowych." It says that images can be used by non-government organizations and that images will not be used for profit. Wikipedia fulfils it I think, but I am not sure. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 00:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 01:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I've found a public domain image from world war two, see Image:48th_highlanders.jpg. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 01:42, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

My Request for Adminship

Valentinian/Archive 4

Thanks for your support on my successful Request for Adminship (final result 78 Support /0 Oppose / 1 Neutral) I have now been entrusted with the mop, bucket and keys. I will be slowly acclimating myself to my new tools over the next months. I am humbled by your kind support and would certainly welcome any feedback on my actions. Please do not hesitate to contact me. Once again, many thanks and happy new year! All the best, Asteriontalk 15:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

You are the best!

Valentinian, Thanks very much for answering my questions about units of measurement in 19th century Denmark. I knew some historical-minded Dane would eventually see and respond. And thanks, too, for your comments on Dybbøl -- I made a few additions there today; I hope I didn't muck it up too badly. By the way, I've been appreciating your knowledgeable edits on Denmark pages for quite a while now. I've learned a lot from you. You get around. Thanks for educating me! Lynne Jorgensen 01:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Anytime. And thanks. :) Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 12:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Brahe

I found your information on Brahes very useful. Could you add the information on the history of the Brahe family to Brahe? Also, could you add references? All of that information would help clarify why all the Brahes should be listed and discussed together. Thank you, Dr. Submillimeter 15:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll try to, but it'll take a few days. I'm pretty busy IRL. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 20:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
When you do this, please use references other than the Swedish and Danish versions of Wikipedia. Thank you, Dr. Submillimeter 21:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
The references that you suggested using seem good. Thank you for expanding the article. Dr. Submillimeter 21:20, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I just remembered that the Great Danish Encyclopedia is not the first of its kind. Salmonsens Konversationsleksikon from 1915 is partly digitized (including B) so I could start with that. [2]. The Swedish Nordisk familjebok is the same [3] and [4] and they are considered PD by their respective Wikipedias. Even a direct translation will still take some time, though. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Note to myself: The editor of the last volumes of Salmonsen died as late as 1977, but the editor of the first 20 or 21, Christian Blangstrup, died in 1926. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Andreea Marin

I made this page but it is too small still. I am bringing it for your attention if you want help make it bigger. Corneliu-d 15:20, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but that one is out of my area of expertise. Good luck with it, though. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 19:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Kingdom of Rwenzururu

Merry XMAS - translated, for what those three lines are worth :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  14:10, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Happy new year. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:43, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Denmark

Do you think the Denmark colloboration should start up? Badbilltucker thinks wait. And also, we need a government structure, but Badbilltucker thinks wait. Please send me your opinion. Laleenatalk to me contributions to Wikipedia 01:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Mass-untagging of images.

I too am surprised that no-one from your project noticed the debate - the TfD notice would have appeared on every image description page containing {{Coatofarms}} (or any of its redirect variants) - generally this is all that we have to do to inform the Wiki-public about what's going on. I apologive for not contacting WP:HV before getting MartinBotIII running - until today, I didn't know of the existance of the project, so that there might be one never came to the front of my mind. Now, in the removal of the template, I could have made the bot add a different template, but the reason I subsequently asked OrphanBot to do it was that a lot of images used Coatofarms and some other tag, and I didn't want the bot to be tagged "No copyright info" on pages with a tag - OrphanBot would be able to detect these other tags, and only orphan the image where appropriate. This is the start of the image edits in that run - I think there were some 2000+ pages that it went through, but it would perhaps be better to leave OrphanBot to do its work, and watch its contribs, as not all the images which MartinBot removed the template from will be orphaned. Frankly, I'm surprised overall that no-one in your project, with an uploaded image, noticed MartinBotIII's edits on their watchlist Martinp23 11:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry that the project is having bad luck, and can understand your exasperation, but the template has been gone for about 3 weeks now, which would have been plenty of time to notice before OrphanBot started its work. As an aside, a bot has not yet ever been approved by the community with admin powers, so no bot will delete the images. Martinp23 12:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Moving a page

Hi,

Regarding this change of yours, I'm wondering why you went through the longer route of creating a new template, and replace the old with #REDIRECT. You could just use the "move" at the top. This way, the history of revisions is kept together. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 00:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 07:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


Nationalities

Hello Valentinian. Happy New Year! I hope you remember me. I hope you remember a guy that was putting Greek Cypriots under category:Greek people and you reported him considering him as vandalist. I have the same problem now with a Turk who does the same for Turkish Cypriots puting them in category:Turkish people. Can you help me on that? KRBN (talk) 22:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

That's not true. Please take a close look at his edits. He erased so much information, relevant cats, info that needed to be there per WP:BIO, and even interwikis that even the VandalBot reverted him [5]. Baristarim 20:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
And KRBN, please be careful with your language, "a Turk is doing this, that" is not correct. Focus on content, not people. Only thing that I did was revert your edits. I had never edited those articles before, and I don't go around adding cats like you said. The problem is that they cannot be categorized under "Cypriot X" either since they are not the citizens of the Republicof Cyprus either. In any case, please try to be more constructive. And Valentinian, please feel free to see my contributions list, the histories of articles concerned and ask about me to other admins if need be. Cheers and have a good day! Baristarim 20:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I've replied on Baristarim's userpage. I hope the two of you will work something out. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 21:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
:) I know what you are thinking, but that wasn't it.. See my latest post to his talk page [6]. It is a normal misunderstanding when it is one of those "darn Greek-Turkish things", I know :) But if you take a close look, you will see that my primary concern was his reverts that included even the deletion of the interwikis to Turkish Wikipedia as well as alumni categories, birthdates and birthplaces, living people cats etc. I know what you are saying about the cat system, no problems there. I was also confused since there were many different edits taking place while the professed issue was about the "Turkish X" cats. However, he explained to me that he was reverting to much earlier versions of those articles, and that's why they were being deleted. Take a closer look :) Baristarim 22:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your involvement anyhow.. We finally worked something out. Cheers! Baristarim 22:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Cyprus-stub

I've asked User:Gadfium whether - as a neutral, uninvolved admin - he could protect the template. Hopefully that'll fix things. Grutness...wha? 23:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Turkish Cypriots; nationality and continent

First of all I want to thank you very much from your involment for solving our problem with User:Baristarim. I thought you didn't do anything about it after we spoke you but as I observed today you did a lot.

However, I have a worse problem with user:Saguamundi about that issue. Not only he puts the Turkish Cypriots under category:Turkish people but he also put their politicians under Asian politicians, claiming that it's because they have descent from Asia !!!! I am saying that to you because you reverted one of his edits about that, however he reverted again your edit. But with me I have every day to revert his lot edits about Turkish Cypriots. Since he doesn't understand, can you talk him a bit and making a report for him? See his contributions: Special:Contributions/Saguamundi KRBN 15:02, 9 January 2007 (UTC) As I saw, you reverted edits from [Saguamundi]

I'll try to find the time. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 14:40, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I've made a post to Saguamundi's talk page. I suggest further debate regarding categorizing Cyprus under Europe or Asia take place on WP:WSS, which will be the logical place to continue any such debate. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 22:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Article on Cicero

Hello Valentinian! Introducing myself: I am a complete novice as Wikipedian, en udenlands dansk psychotherapist living in Finland. I started typing shyly in the end of November. While editing the page on Cicero last December, I was completely distraught, when I noticed that out of an unknown reason the last part of the chapter on Cicero´s children did not show at all. Thank you so much to correcting it!!! I will be more careful in the future how to write a reference. Tellervo 11:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem, it was pretty easy to fix. Welcome to Wikipedia. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 22:17, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
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