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Archive 1

Smelting in a microwave

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I've fixed the redirect for you now. Paste (talk) 18:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Userafw (talk) 18:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Red Link Recovery

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Thank you for your work on the red link recovery wikiproject. Just a couple of suggestions...

Please make sure that if you are changing or redirecting links that they are to the correct person. Your redirect of Don Fergusson made a redirect from an Australian police detective to a Canadian actor.

Please make sure that the link you're redirecting needs to be redirected. Because Wikipedia changes so rapidly, many of the links have already been fixed. When you click on a red link, click on the "what links here" section in the toolbox on the lower left of your screen. This will tell you if there are pages other than the red link project that link there. If there are no other pages, you don't have to worry about it.

After you have corrected or redirected an article, please remove it from the page, rather than striking it out. Strikeouts should be reserved for articles that you CAN'T fix.

Please make the red link into a redirect only if there are several misspellings of the same name. If there is only one, please just change the spelling on the page that links to it to the correct spelling.

For more details, please see the text at the top of each page of the project. If you have any questions, please post on my talk page. Thanks again for all your help! Dana boomer (talk) 13:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Independence Day!

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As you are a nice Wikipedian, I just wanted to wish you a happy Independence Day! And if you are not an American, then have a happy day and a wonderful weekend anyway! :) Your friend and colleague, --Happy Independence Day! Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 03:51, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Port Weller Public School

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Thank you for noticing that Port Weller Public School appeared to be a test, empty or nonsense article. Articles about schools generally aren't speediable. I changed it to a redirect to the school district which runs the school, as we usually do for elementary schools that are not particularly notable. -- Eastmain (talk) 00:18, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for letting me know about that. Userafw (talk) 00:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for that duplicate page about the Episcopal Diocese of Pittsburgh. If I knew how, I would have wiped it out immediately myself. I really did look first, but my searches kept coming up with the same incorrect article, so I created one only to realize later that it was a mistake. Actually now that I think of it, should it be a re-direct, rather than deleted? Others might be having the same problems I did identifying the diocese which stayed with the national church.Rose bartram (talk) 12:33, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You maybe interested in the Article Rescue Squadron

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I notice some of your templates on your user page, and I would like you to consider joining the Article Rescue Squadron. Rescue Squadron members are focused on rescuing articles for deletion, that might otherwise be lost forever to Wikipedia, you may find our project matches your vision of Wikipedia.

Ikip (talk) 19:32, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of The Crofter

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A tag has been placed on The Crofter, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Seegoon (talk) 22:10, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Sociology Newsletter: II (April 2010)

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Sociology Project • News • April 2010
The Sociology WikiProject is conducting a roll call (or min-census, if you prefer). More then five years down the road, we have over 50 members, but we don't know how many of them are still active in the sociology area. If you are or want to become once again an active contributor to the sociology content on Wikipedia, please move your name from the inactive to the active list on our roll call. In other news, we have reactivated the newsletter :) At least, for this announcement. We also have a new, automated to do listing, an active tag and assess project (which has identified about 1,800 sociology articles on Wikipedia, and assessed about 1,3000 of them), and three new userboxes for your self-identification pleasure :) On a final note, I highly recommend watchlisting the Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology page, so you can be aware of the ongoing discussions.
You have received this newsletter because you are listed as a participant at WikiProject Sociology. • signed _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus\| talk} 18:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sociology Project • News • April 2010

The Sociology WikiProject is conducting a roll call (or min-census, if you prefer). More then five years down the road, we have over 50 members, but we don't know how many of them are still active in the sociology area. If you are or want to become once again an active contributor to the sociology content on Wikipedia, please move your name from the inactive to the active list on our roll call.

In other news, we have reactivated the newsletter :) At least, for this announcement. We also have a new, automated to do listing, an active tag and assess project (which has identified about 1,800 sociology articles on Wikipedia, and assessed about 1,3000 of them), and three new userboxes for your self-identification pleasure :) On a final note, I highly recommend watchlisting the Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology page, so you can be aware of the ongoing discussions.

You have received this newsletter because you are listed as a participant at WikiProject Sociology. • signed _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Sociology Newsletter: III (December 2010)

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Sociology Project • News • December 2010
Spreading the meme since August 2006
The Sociology WikiProject third newsletter is out! According to our April mini-census, we have 15 active members, 6 semi-active ones and 45 inactive. Out of those, 4 active, 3 semi-active and 1 inactive members have added themselves to corresponding categories since the mini-census. The next one is planned, roughly, for sometime next year. The membership list has been kept since 2004. On that note, nobody has ever studied WikiProjects from the sociological perspective... if you are interesting in researching Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Research and wiki-research-l listerv. Moving from research to teaching, did you know that many teachers and instructors are teaching classes with Wikipedia? This idea is getting support from the Wikimedia Foundation, and some really useful tools have been created recently. I have experience with that, having taught several undergad classes, so feel free to ask me questions on that! And as long as I am talking about professional issues, if any of you is going to any sociological conferences, do post that to our project - perhaps other members are going there too? In other news: the a automated to do listing reported in the April issue went down shortly afterwards, but seems to be on the path to reactivation. We still have an active tag and assess project, and comparing the numbers to the April report, we have identified about 350 more sociology-related articles (from 1,800 to 2,150) and assessed about 100 (from 1,300 to 1,400). We now have a listing of most popular sociology-related pages. It is updated on the 1st of every month, starting with August, and reports which of our sociology-tagged articles are most frequently read. Of course, GIGO holds true, so after looking at it right now and trying to determine what is our most popular article, my first action was to shake my head and remove Criminal Minds (which, perhaps not too surprisingly, outranks all sociology articles in period tested). Second item I noticed it this month's Industrial Revolution, beating Criminal Minds, that moved from close to 30th position in August/September, to 9th in October and 2nd in November. If you'd like to discuss this or any other trends, please visit WT:SOCIOLOGY! Finally, with the reactivation of Article Alerts, we are getting our own here. Bookmark that page so you can keep track of sociology related deletion debates, move debates, good and feature article discussions, and more. Our first task force (Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology/Social movements task force) was created (1 June 2010). If you have basic or better graphic skills, our projects needs a dedicated barnstar (award) (currently the closest we can get is the Society Barnstar. As always, I highly recommend watchlisting the Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology page, so you can be aware of the ongoing discussions.
Authored by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus\| talk} 04:08, 26 December 2010 (UTC) [reply] You have received this newsletter because you are listed as a recipient of WikiProject Sociology Newsletter (Opt-out).

Sociology Project • News • December 2010

Spreading the meme since August 2006

The Sociology WikiProject third newsletter is out!

According to our April mini-census, we have 15 active members, 6 semi-active ones and 45 inactive. Out of those, 4 active, 3 semi-active and 1 inactive members have added themselves to corresponding categories since the mini-census. The next one is planned, roughly, for sometime next year. The membership list has been kept since 2004.

On that note, nobody has ever studied WikiProjects from the sociological perspective... if you are interesting in researching Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Research and wiki-research-l listerv.

Moving from research to teaching, did you know that many teachers and instructors are teaching classes with Wikipedia? This idea is getting support from the Wikimedia Foundation, and some really useful tools have been created recently. I have experience with that, having taught several undergad classes, so feel free to ask me questions on that!

And as long as I am talking about professional issues, if any of you is going to any sociological conferences, do post that to our project - perhaps other members are going there too?

In other news: the a automated to do listing reported in the April issue went down shortly afterwards, but seems to be on the path to reactivation. We still have an active tag and assess project, and comparing the numbers to the April report, we have identified about 350 more sociology-related articles (from 1,800 to 2,150) and assessed about 100 (from 1,300 to 1,400).

We now have a listing of most popular sociology-related pages. It is updated on the 1st of every month, starting with August, and reports which of our sociology-tagged articles are most frequently read. Of course, GIGO holds true, so after looking at it right now and trying to determine what is our most popular article, my first action was to shake my head and remove Criminal Minds (which, perhaps not too surprisingly, outranks all sociology articles in period tested). Second item I noticed it this month's Industrial Revolution, beating Criminal Minds, that moved from close to 30th position in August/September, to 9th in October and 2nd in November. If you'd like to discuss this or any other trends, please visit WT:SOCIOLOGY!

Finally, with the reactivation of Article Alerts, we are getting our own here. Bookmark that page so you can keep track of sociology related deletion debates, move debates, good and feature article discussions, and more.

Our first task force (Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology/Social movements task force) was created (1 June 2010).

If you have basic or better graphic skills, our projects needs a dedicated barnstar (award) (currently the closest we can get is the Society Barnstar.

As always, I highly recommend watchlisting the Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology page, so you can be aware of the ongoing discussions.

Authored by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 04:08, 26 December 2010 (UTC) [reply]

You have received this newsletter because you are listed as a recipient of WikiProject Sociology Newsletter (Opt-out).

CSD tagging

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Please do not tag redirect pages, such as Michaek K. Morgan with CSD A3 tags - these are meant for articles, not for redirects. If you think that a particular redirect needs to be deleted, list it at WP:RFD. Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 23:57, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I guess the rules have changed some since I was on last (a long time ago). Userafw (talk) 23:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, no, the rules have not changed, but CSD A3 was never applicable to redirects in the first place. Redirects are not articles, but rather are search and navigation aids, and they are not meant to have any content as such. To quote from WP:R, "A redirect is a page which has no content itself, but sends the reader to another article, section of an article, or page, usually from an alternative title." Thus it makes no sense to delete a redirect on "no content" grounds. Nsk92 (talk) 00:29, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Manic stupor

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If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Manic stupor requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hang on}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Ravendrop (talk) 06:47, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol survey

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New page patrol – Survey Invitation

Hello Userafw! The WMF is currently developing new tools to make new page patrolling much easier. Whether you have patrolled many pages or only a few, we now need to know about your experience. The survey takes only 6 minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist us in analyzing the results of the survey; the WMF will not use the information to identify you.

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IRC cloak

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I am also known as Simsilikesims on various wikia projects. Userafw (talk) 23:32, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for Creation Appeal

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Articles for Creation is backlogged and needs YOUR help!

Articles for Creation is desperately in need of reviewers! We are looking for urgent help, from experienced editors and administrators alike, to help us clear a record backlog of pending submissions. There is currently a significant backlog of 1846 submissions waiting to be reviewed. These submissions are generally from new editors who have never edited Wikipedia before. A prompt, constructive review of submissions could significantly editor retention.

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WikiProject Articles for creation newsletter

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The WikiProject Articles for creation newsletter

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Volume I, No. I – December 2012

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Wikiproject Articles for creation Needs You!

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WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

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WikiProject AFC needs your help... again

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WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

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There is a backlog of over 1000 articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

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Thank you

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Userafw, thank you for thanking me for my edit on Uncyclopedia. --The Million Rabbit 17:48, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Userafw (talk) 05:24, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

October 2013 AFC Backlog elimination drive

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WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

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There is a backlog of over 1800 articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

A new version of our AfC helper script is released! It includes many bug fixes, new improvements and features, code enhancements, and more. If you want to see a full list of changes, visit the changelog. Please report bugs and feature requests there, too! Thanks. --Mdann52talk to me!

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AFC Backlog Drive

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WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

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Please comment on changes to the AfC mailing list

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Notification of a June AfC BackLog Drive

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ArbCom elections are now open!

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New deal for page patrollers

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In order to better control the quality of new pages, keep out the spam, and welcome the genuine newbies, the current system we introduced in 2011 is being updated and improved. The documentation and tutorials have also been revised and given a facelift. Most importantly a new user group New Page Reviewer has been created.

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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

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