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hello i don’t know much about formatting but i do have ideas to make things better here. objectivity above all else, yo (talk) 08:03, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yo. veteran editors, i could use some tips

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bruh reply reply (talk) 03:28, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tyrone(talk) 08:37, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think I fixed it Tyrone (talk) 08:38, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is my signature hot yet? Tyrone (talk) 08:41, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well it is not linking, so you are still doing something wrong.Slatersteven (talk) 10:39, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunate. I will fix this in a bit. Thanks for letting me know. I’ll refrain from talk pages until I can properly sign my stuffz Tyrone (talk) 12:02, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Metzgeria angusta moved to draftspace

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An article you recently created, Metzgeria angusta, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Itcouldbepossible (Talk) (Contributions) (Log) 08:09, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Woops. New here, trying to figure out how to help. My bad. (talk) 08:16, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

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Adding references can be easy

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Just follow the steps 1, 2 and 3 as shown and fill in the details

Hello! Here's how to add references from reliable sources for the content you add to Wikipedia. This helps maintain the Wikipedia policy of verifiability.

Adding well formatted references is actually quite easy:

  1. While editing any article or a wikipage, on the top of the edit window you will see a toolbar which says "Cite". Click on it.
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Hope this helps, --Shearonink (talk) 04:59, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Please sign your posts on talk pages completely

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Your signature is being truncated, your signature is ending up with only a link to your user talk rather than links to both your user page and your user talk. I think you're signing with maybe 3 "tildes" ~ rather than 4 ~. Shearonink (talk) 04:59, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk) 07:51, 9 December 2021 (UTC) testing, i usually do use em, very peculiar that it aint workin[reply]

Weird… so I used the tildes and that is what came up. Any solutions? (talk) 07:52, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm no expert, I just know there's something wrong with the way you're doing it. Are you sure you're using 4/Four of the tildes? - because your signature right above this reply only has a link to your user talk and, per WP:3TILDES, that is what happens when you use 3 tildes. Take a look at WP:SIG for a more complete explanation. I use 4 tildes - ~~~~ - and my signature ends up being a link to my User page and a link to my User talk... Shearonink (talk) 16:20, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk) 16:34, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can assure you, that I can count to 4. I’ll test here with 4 and then the next post with 3, to do “science.” (talk) 16:35, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now 3: (talk)

Now 5??? 16:35, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Now 0. (talk) 16:40, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I wasn't assuming you couldn't count, I just know that sometimes all the coding around here can throw folks off - no aspersions meant, apologies if I offended you. The only thing I can think of is that maybe you have something set up for your signature in your user Preferences? Take a look at the Signature section at your WP Preferences. Other than that, since I am not an expert on Wiki-coding, maybe ask at the Wikipedia:Help desk or hit up some helpful admins/WP-experts and ask them. Cheers, 18:48, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

No worries, lol, I meant it very sarcastically and deadpan. I have simply never seen this in all my weeks of stalking Wikipedia talkpage fights (they do go hard.). Anyways, thanks for the tip! Cheers! (talk) 07:56, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dec 21

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Please do not use article talk pages to vent your feelings about the topic, that is a violation of wp:not.Slatersteven (talk) 16:32, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha. Need some nuance and purpose with constructive edits at the crux. Feel free to kill the offending section. Thank you. (Also, I am still figuring out the tildes lol! (talk) 17:02, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe WP:SIGTUT can be helpful, it includes a gallery of custom examples, —PaleoNeonate – 18:27, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I’ll start there. For some reason, every time I do 4 tildes, it looks like this (possibly due to me being on mobile, typically?): (talk) 08:30, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Oster and GRAMMY capitialization

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Thanks for looking at my article about Jeff Oster.

Please note that GRAMMY is supposed to be all capitalized, inasmuch as it is a registered trademark.

Please see: https://www.grammy.com/recording-academy/press-room/press-kits and for further info press the i in a circle.

You'll also notice that everywhere on the GRAMMY.com website, GRAMMY is always in caps.

I understand that departs with the AP style guide, but when one is listing it as a registered trademark, which I am, then it should follow that form, and not a press style form, in my opinion.

If you agree with me, I would like you to back off your change or give me permission to do so.

You'll note that I'm not just backing off your change without a discussion and a justification.

Thank you for your consideration Meta in MA (talk) 04:03, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, no offense, but this is Wikipedia, not Grammy.com. If you take a look at the Grammy wikipedia article, it consistently is styled without the trademark and as “Grammy.” Please look there for reference. Thanks. Tyrone (talk) 04:05, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Awards Tyrone (talk) 04:06, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happily, I'll agree with you. This explains it better, from a legal standpoint: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Trademarks Meta in MA (talk) 04:10, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome. Sounds good; let me know if there’s anything else to gather consensus on. - Tyrone (talk) 04:12, 27 December 2021 (UTC) I'm good: saw that you also changed the article on Tom Eaton. All cool. Always good when we can come to consensus and I can learn something new. Meta in MA (talk) 04:15, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, no worries. I did that too when I accidentally kept capitalizing occupations in info boxes, when only the very first term is to be capitalized, It’s all about maintaining a wiki, quasi-blog format and preserving accurate truth with a NPOV. The only time copyright really matters is for images, which has a real big policy on here that I have yet to understand lol. Tyrone (talk) 04:18, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

December 2021

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Information icon Hello, I'm Novem Linguae. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to User talk:Prins van Oranje have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:39, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh shoot, I was clearing up a talk page of a permanently blocked sockpuppet. I thought I could save us some bandwidth. My apologies, I will leave banned people’s talk pages alone, in the future. Sorry again. Tyrone (talk) 04:40, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All good, no problem. Thanks for apologizing. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:46, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Peace and love. Tyrone (talk) 04:52, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

January 2022

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Please stop adding unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did to Kids See Ghosts (album). This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 06:05, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter he give the album a perfect score, The Needle Drop is not an reliable source (see WP:ALBUMAVOID), we discuss about this YouTuber at least four times already, back in 2014, twice in 2017, (2), and 2021. You follow the guidelines like anyone else, if you want to have an discussion about Anthony Fantano, take this at WP:RSN instead. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 06:26, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You clearly did not read the consensus that was reached that specific states a “case-by-case basis.”. Instead of enforcing rules maybe you should start with reading them. Tyrone (talk) 16:39, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I been on Wikipedia a lot longer then you have and you clearly don't understand why The Needle Drop is considered unreliable. His reviews needs to be supported by a third-party source not some random self-published source such as YouTube (see WP:UGC). His reviews are not use for "case-by-case basis", you are WP:CHERRYPICKING that one line there. We can take this argument at WP:RSN and the results will be the same. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 21:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I actually had an entire paragraph and you clearly did not read my edit summary. Here it is again in case you missed it: “From the link you provided me: Fantano's reviews do not always constitute due weight and that discretion should be applied on a case-by-case basis when determining if content from The Needle Drop is appropriate to include in a given article.”. I would strongly suggest that him giving an album a 10, a rare feat, is something to at least note in the commentary section. Undid revision 1066530723 by TheAmazingPeanuts (talk)“

I can quote the entire consensus list, for transparency, in case you are yet to read it. Tyrone (talk) 05:38, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Categorization

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Hi there - ordinarily, we'd discuss this on the talk page of the article since it is specific to the article, but since you requested discussing it on your own talk page, and some of it is probably just explanatory in nature, it's fine. We can always move the discussion to the article talk page if necessary. Categories in Wikipedia are hierarchial like a tree, not meta like tags, so when categorizing page, the page should go into the lowest category on the tree (i.e. "subcategory") that is relevant. You can refer to WP:CATSPECIFIC for more information on this. If the category is what is referred to as "non-diffusing", then it can be in more than one subcategory, but in the case of the Groypers article, the categories being removed are "diffusing". To explain it another way that might add some clarity, the article is already in Category:Far-right politics in the United States by being in Category:White nationalism in the United States, and it's already in Category:White nationalism in the United States because it is in Category:White supremacist groups in the United States. Per WP:CATSPECIFIC, it should only to be in that last one. Also, for the Category:Far-right politics in the United States, if you refer to the text at the top of the category, it explains this to you there as well. Hope that makes sense. ButlerBlog (talk) 20:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. I suppose it does. Are there any downsides to doing it this way instead of putting every category and subcategory on every page? Tyrone (talk) 02:14, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure I understand the question of "downsides". The guideline is what it is, and it's pretty exact: Since all categories form part of a hierarchy, do not add categories to pages as if they are tags. So, can you add every category to an article? Technically, you can but you'll just end up creating a problem for another editor to change and clean up. And once you know better, then it's just disruptive. A good deal of time is spent patrolling Wikipedia to ensure it's quality, which means fixing mistakes by inexperienced editors. The goal then is to encourage new/inexperienced editors to know and understand the manual of style and other community guidelines so they become a long term asset to the project.
On a side note, make sure to indent your responses with colons (":"). It will show other editors you know what you're doing ;-) see: WP:INDENT. And there's something weird about your signature links not coming through and the timestamp not matching. Are you doing it manually? Or are you using 4 tildes? If you're not signing with tildes (see WP:SIG), you should be - it's easier, AND automatic. (if you are and already knew that, then just ignore this as if I don't know what I don't know...) ButlerBlog (talk) 22:26, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sean Hannity

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Propagandist is a divisive term that should not be in the head section of this article. If you wish to put it in a better context in the criticism section then that should be fine, otherwise I would not recommend you add it to any article about any news broadcaster or political commentator. If you would like to start a section on the talk page of this article your more than welcome. BigRed606 (talk) 17:37, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to jump into this, but I did notice the edit and ensuing discussion. BigRed606 is right on this. A contentious label doesn't belong in the lead on a WP:BLP - at least not the opening paragraph. You've got a source, but it's just one, and its objectivity can be called into question (it's a considered by consensus to be a reliable source WP:RSPVOX, but some editors question its reliability on POV), so you're giving undue weight in terms of POV. With a BLP and labels that can be contentious (see WP:BLPRACIST), even if it's from a reliable source, you need to consider its use carefully. If used, it's better to use it in the body of the article, and as an attribution (i.e. a quote from the source, whether direct or indirect; such as "was referred to by Vox as a propogandist" or something like along those lines). ButlerBlog (talk) 22:36, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, gotcha. Seems fair enough. Thanks for explaining it, I will consider that. Tyrone (talk) 10:46, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello there. I am confused as to what this means and why it was imposed. May I ask what this is all about? Tyrone (talk) 07:47, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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