User talk:TrueNeutral879
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on this page and someone will drop by to help. Again, welcome! — Bilorv (talk) 08:40, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the welcome! TrueNeutral879 (talk) 18:14, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Fyi some more points
[edit]@TrueNeutral879 May be you are already aware of some of following points but still noting down in case any of following point helps you.
- 1) On commonly accepted essays, guidelines and policies, my over all impression has been that Wikipedia community (like any human group or community) is quite status quo-oriented, generally changes come very slow. So we participated in providing you inputs at Teahouse as policies and guidelines stand presently. Discussion I initiated at Wikipedia talk:Merging#Any rules of thumb? is in hope of better clarity in long-term future.
- 2) At Teahouse you had raised specific issue of whether to blank entire article, merge and redirect. (By now you know, that works until some one does not revert it).
- 3) But when you have to just add or delete content in good faith with summary, WP:RS and other relevant policies, generally WP:BRD comes into play - Users being bold or reverting generally are expected to engage in talk page discussion and WP:DR without further reverts.
- 4) Once a talk page discussion begins, ideally, one is expected to make changes only about which there are no disagreements. This discussion at WT:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle may help you some additional insight.
- 5) As long as there is no previous consensus and some one is removing content in good faith with summary as content is undue as per policies and guideline. The user who is removing content is generally in advantage since generally WP:ONUS / responsibility to gain talk page consensus to have deleted content back through WP:DR, is on who wants to retain the content.
- 6) Though generally in advantage deleting user is generally expected to see they are following all guidelines, policies specially WP:NPOV and WP:DR.
Of course not my words but policies are last word so keep verifying what particular policies and guidelines are saying. Happy editing. Bookku (talk) 15:36, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Bookku: It's always safe to assume I know very little, in this and all other things! :) This is very helpful, especially WP:BRD (and Wikipedia:Be Bold, which it links to). I think that clarifies the reluctance I had about making any potentially "big" change without others approving/agreeing with it first. I plan to work on improving that page and seeing if I can find better sources for the topic. And, I'll definitely keep in mind to discuss if others wind up disagreeing and reverting. TrueNeutral879 (talk) 23:31, 8 August 2024 (UTC)