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How To Post A Message

1. Double click the discussion tab.
2. Click at the top of the typing box that appears after you double click that tab.
3. After you've clicked at the top and your cursor is all the way to the top of the typing box, push the Enter button twice.
4. Then push the up button first.
5. To put a title before you type your message:
   1. Type two equal signs
   2. Type your title. !Don't put a space in between the equal signs and the title. You can use spaces between words in your title.!
   3. Type two more equal signs. !Don't put a space between the end of your title and the last two equal signs.!
6. Start typing your message just like you want it to appear. !Don't worry about capitalizing anything in your message. Don't try to adjust the font or the font size. Don't make text bold or italic. I will go back and edit your message. If you want something italicized, place an apostraphee before and after the text. If you want something to be made bold, place either the money or the and sign before and after the text.
7. Once finished typing the message, put four tilde symbols (~) at the end. Type your first name and last initial (without the period). Then push the space button and type you email address, so that I may write you back.Tm93 (talk) 05:15, June 10, 2008 (UTC)

Instructions above...

...are completely wrong and may confuse new users (especially the part about leaving real names and email addresses - something we discourage). Would you care to remove them? Thanks. ➨ ЯEDVEЯS used to be a sweet boy 11:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I will

I will remove the message above, How to post a message, once I'm finished talking with ЯEDVEЯS. It should be removed no later than 3:00pm PT, June 13, 2008.Tm93 (talk) 23:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

It's finished

Thanks to ЯEDVEЯS, my instructions above, How to post a message, are accurate. they have been fixed. Tm93 (talk) 17:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

How to post a message

1. Click the "new section" tab above
2. Enter a short subject/headline in the first box
3. Start typing your message in the second box just like you want it to appear.
4. Once finished typing the message, put four tilde symbols (~~~~) at the end and hit the "save page" button.

-- Tm93 (talk) 23:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Witness T

Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages such as Witness T, to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Vianello (talk) 07:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

In response to your question

Hello! Thanks for coping maturely with the deletion of your article. It happens, you know? Even good articles that are mostly written in the proper spirit of the site sometimes get deleted over some problem or another. Anyway, unfortunately, Wikipedia is meant to be an 'online encyclopedia'. Religious sermons or proselytization aren't the kinds of things you randomly stick in an encyclopedia, you know? It'd be kinda like finding a copy of "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" in the middle of a book about economics. You're 100% welcome to write articles here, but personal sermons don't really qualify as that. There are other, much better places for putting those sorts of things where they won't be removed. Free web hosting, online blogs/journals, and things like that, might be more what you're looking for. - Vianello (talk) 03:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

• Ohh. Now I understand what you're asking. I've taken a quick look at user page guidelines. They're mainly meant for talking about things in relation to Wikipedia itself. But there's really not a lot TO be said about that on there. Frankly, a lot of people do put up a lot of stuff that's related, at best, tangentially. Unfortunately, I think something as large and prominent as that might result in some raised eyebrows. To quote the article on user pages, a user page is "... a way of organizing the work that you are doing on the articles in Wikipedia, and also a way of helping other editors to understand with whom they are working." If you really want it up, what I'd advise is that maybe you could pare it down to be a lot smaller and include it in that form. If it's just some unobtrusive little statement of faith, rather than a big blinky neon sign (figuratively speaking), I don't think anybody's going to raise a fuss. Even if they do, it's not going to get you in any real trouble. Worst that'll happen is someone might ask that you take it down. I'm not an admin or anything. I could easily be wrong about this. That's just my thoughts/advice. - Vianello (talk) 03:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, user pages are what I'm talking about too. Like I said, I think if you could pare it down to something little, nobody's going to raise a fuss. Or, heck, you could just tack it all up as-is if you want. It's just maybe a bit likelier someone'd raise an issue if you make it really obtrusive, as that's not technically what user pages are "for". It's up to you, really. No major risk either way. - Vianello (talk) 03:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Glad we could get that cleared up!

It's really swell of you to be able to think about the broader implications of things on here. Heaven knows, we all come across stuff on Wikipedia now and then where we'd just love to give the public a piece of our own opinions. But that just doesn't get anywhere or help anyone. With that kind of nice, objective outlook, I think you'll have a lot to add to this place. If you have questions about anything else or need help, drop me a line any time. I'd certainly like to see more editors like yourself getting into the thick of it, so to speak! - Vianello (talk) 03:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

I noticed that you tagged the page User talk:A beautiful mind for speedy deletion with the reason "This page is in a foreign language". However, "This page is in a foreign language" is not currently one of our criteria for speedy deletion, so I have removed the speedy deletion tag. You can use WP:MFD if you still want the page to be deleted. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 11:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Heads up

Hi. Back then, I had warned many users for having innapropriate usernames, using Special:Listusers. If you see one and feel that it is innapropriate enough, you can report it at Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention. There still remains about a dozen users I've tagged with innapropriate usernames, so feel free to report them or I can do so myself, and if they are indefinately blocked then their usertalkpages and userpages can be deleted after a few months. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 12:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Geheh, no harm!

Well, I tagged your page because it wasn't an "article" per se. Not everything here has to relate to history per se. But you're right, I'm just a user like you, with just as much or as little authority. Becoming an admin, I'll advise, is HARD stuff. It's not something to think about for a good while. They insist adminship is "not a big deal", but they sure don't make it easy to obtain! I may not have any authority, but I do know a thing or two just as a user, so I'm still good for answering questions, I think. I see you've figured out how to set up a talk page archive of your own, by the by. Well done! That's a good step if you do wanna become an admin. They like it if your old talk page contents are archived instead of deleted. Easier to peruse so they can study your past correspondence. Having a good personality is important, so they like to check that out. - Vianello (talk) 04:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

• Successful applicants for adminship will have done somewhat more edits to the article namespace than you have. There are no rules but think of a minimum of about three months and a thousand edits. By that time you will have found out what adminship involves and how to apply. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 07:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

User pages and usernames

Wikipedia's open nature is both a blessing and a curse. It has meant that over the last 7 years we have had some particular long- and medium-term repeat vandals. These people have a complex psychosexual problem that leads them to obsess over particular subjects or forms of vandalism. These "one-handed" vandals gain a particular and specific enjoyment from what they're obsessing over. Some like to create "shocking" usernames that push a minority point of view (who was behind 9/11, for instance). Some like to attack specific users, even long after they've left Wikipedia. Some like to move pages to strange names. And one liked to lampoon (I think that's what he thought he was doing) Wikipedia's ideals.

We deal with all of these Long Term Abuse cases in similar ways. We tend to mix the policies of revert, block and ignore and denial of recognition with an unofficial policy of throwing obstacles in their path. The user you've spotted, Wikipedia is Neopaganism! (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), is one of the latter, an obstacle in the path of the tiresome Communism vandal.

On a related note, we don't forbid sockpuppetry. There are several reasons to have declared second accounts, and even some reasons to have second accounts that are not declared. We don't, unless there is evidence of abuse, restrict people to one account. Many - most - people only use one, Some have several for different purposes. And sometimes you get one created, like the one you're worried about, for a single practical purpose and then forgotten.

I previously offered advice to you about not worrying over user pages. I'd extend that now to include user accounts. Especially old ones. In a place with nothing but backlogs, this is one area that we're usually well on top of. Feel free to report recently created abusive-sounding account names to WP:UAA if you so wish, but it really won't be of that much help. There are so many places that need help, and so many articles as yet unwritten and unedited, that old usernames, old user pages and content of almost any sort outside of the article namespace really must get a low priority. People applying for adminship are commonly penalized for spending too much time on such scattered minutiae and not enough on our true purpose, creating articles! ➨ ЯEDVEЯS used to be a sweet boy 19:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

In response to your questions

First off, it CAN be hard to know if someone's an admin sometimes. The easiest way is just to go to their user page (not their talk page, mind) and take a look around. Admins are required to identify themselves as such on their user pages, I believe.

Second, regarding your concerns about having to remove something because another user doesn't like it, that's a little more complicated. You see, GENERALLY speaking, someone won't tell you to do something just because they "don't like it". Well, that might be the hidden reason, but even if it is, if they say so outright you can pretty much laugh them off. Anyway, things on Wikipedia run through processes. You can remove something if someone complains about it, but you aren't compelled to under any circumstances. If the problem is something on your user page or talk page, someone will GENERALLY just ask you to take it down, unless it's something really awful or egregious (in which case they can take it down themselves). No, what happens more typically, and what happened in the case of your article that got us talking, is that someone just flags an article for attention.

See, only admins can actually delete articles. What I did, basically, was put up a little red flag that said "Hey, this page is in violation of X Y and Z official policies, it needs to be taken down." You can do this too, if you encounter an article that probably or definitely doesn't belong. If you'd wanted to, you could have contested this and chosen to explain why, in your opinion, it does NOT violate those. Then the admins would look the situation over and come down on one side or the other. Of course, I and a lot of other users will happily revoke these little "flags" when confronted with a good reason without even having to get the administrators involved. So, I can't just go and destroy your content (well, except by vandalizing it or blanking the page, but then people could and should undo that and give me a warning or block me). But I, or another user, can let the administrators know it might have an issue that needs looked at. I know at times it seems weird how much power individual users do have on Wikipedia, and it doesn't always end up working out for the best. But all in all, you might be surprised how fair people can be here. I know I was!

Does this answer your question/concern? I may have misunderstood exactly what you were wondering. Just remember, unless an administrator asks you to make a change, you're never strictly REQUIRED to. People can ask you, advise you, or order you (if they're impolite), but they can't make you do something against your will unless they convince an administrator. And like I said, it's hard to become an admin, and I think most of them are pretty even-handed. So you're in good shape, I bet. - Vianello (talk) 09:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

• Oh, a random formatting/etiquette tip you should watch out for. Generally, in talk pages for users or articles, people want new messages posted below old ones. This doesn't mean to put all your posts right on the bottom. Rather, put your post below the post(s) you're replying to. If you're making a new section entirely, put it all the way at the bottom. It's really not a big deal, it's just the norm of how people tend to do things around here. See, personally, I think it'd make more sense for new sections to go at the top where they can be seen right away. But, hey, that's just how things work. I did that several times early on. Like I said, it's not remotely something to worry about, just one of the routines here. - Vianello (talk) 09:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

• I fear you are getting some misleading advice from Vianello. "Hard to know if someone's an admin sometimes". Ridiculous nonsense - admins are not required to identify themselves. Whilst someting like the rather twee on my user page is usually honest, it is can be applied fraudulently. The simple and totally definitive way to see if a user is an admin is Special:ListUsers as in this check on Redvers.

Re:Statusbox

Hi. It uses a monobook script in your javascript page. It then allows links which you manually update. I don't have time right now but I'll show you how it works later if you would like to have it. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 12:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. It works by using a status changer script in your monobook. If you would like to use it, you can add the script into here. I'm currently using a script from my userspace, but I suggest you use the original one. Follow the instructions here to add it yourself. It says it does not work in IE/Windows but it works fine for me. It is not updated automaticly, so you can be online but appear offline. You can update your status by clicking the "in", "out", or "busy" buttons that appear after you clear your cache. You can modify your subpages in order for it to say something different on your userpage than the default ones, as I have done. If you have further questions, please feel free to ask. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 17:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Were you referring to your own monobook? Yes, the same message also appeared in my own monobook. However, the code I'm directing you to is not yet in your monobook, it's the second link, and there is no code in your own monobook yet. I think the notice may be precautionary, but if you are concerned, you may ask on the helpdesk or Village pump if nessecary. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 00:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Also, the page says: "Then all you need is to put {{User:Example/Status}} on whatever pages you want the status to be displayed." I did exactly that, and my statuschanger didn't work because it wasn't my statuschanger. When you are at that step (which is after you have created User:Tm93/Status and User:Tm93/StatusTemplate), make sure you place {{User:Tm93/Status}} instead of {{User:Example/Status}} or you may receive User:Example's default "On". Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 01:05, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. It says Misza13 because the original script was made by User:Misza13, so all you have to do is copy and paste the importscript in the blue box for your monobook. There is one thing you do have to change, as I've metnioned above. If you have further questions, feel free to ask, but since we're likely in different Timezones, I might not respond immediately. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 01:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Did you try bypassing your cache? If it doesn't work then maybe the script doesn't work for your browser. If that's the case then it probably wouldn't work. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 21:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I tried adding "in" to your status page. However, I don't know if it will work if you change it to busy or out. The buttons automaticly take you to your status page, where it is supposed to update your status to the one you clicked. However, if the "IN" doesn't change if you click busy or out, or if it dissapears altogether, then something might not be working. You may want to ask for further assistance at the helpdesk or Village pump. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 21:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. When I tested in my own monobook, the extra statuslist doesn't work. I'm not sure if it's my browser, or if there's something wrong with the statusconfig code given, but it might be the statuslist preventing it from working. I don't know if it will work for you, but it might, but remember to bypass your cache if you change your monobook, and if something isn't working, it would show up as done, but with errors in the page. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 22:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. It's working but there are no links? The links are supposed to take you to the status page. Have you tried removing

statusChangerConfig = {
 statusList : [ 'in', 'out' ],

}; but then leaving the rest in place and bypassing? Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 12:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Well, I tried adding the statuslist to mine, and it wouldn't work altogether, which is why I said that might be the problem. However, if you have the links, but they don't change your status, then something isn't working, so it probably isn't the statuslist. I'm not quite sure what the problem is, and it should not make you update it manually, because the links are supposed to update them, so you may want to ask on the helpdesk and/or village pump, and also I don't mind when you add questions. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 22:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. ~AH1^(TCU) 12:35, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. That wasn't really a stupid question, and no I'm not against getting one. If you would like to give me one, I would really appreciate it. You can send me one by starting a new section on my talkpage then inserting it there, and then I'll put it on my userpage. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 17:09, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you so much, my first barnstar! :-) ~AH1^(TCU) 21:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Response/Thanks

Aw shucks, thanks for the barnstar! I really appreciate the gesture. I'm glad to see there's progress being made on your end. As far as I can tell, the stuff in your sandbox looks legit to me. The only concern I might want to pre-empt (besides the admitted 'plagarism', which you'll be able to fix pretty easily) would be the fact that a lot of this regards something that is yet to come. Some people might lift the concern of WP:CRYSTAL. You'll want to make it clear that this is something that is, right now, notable, and NOT something you're arguing will be one day. I can't offer much in the way of good suggestions there, as I am totally unfamiliar with the topic. But really, asserting notability isn't horribly hard. Just be sure to include footnotes and a reference list (I love the way Wikipedia sets those up automatically if you just add the reflist template), and you'll probably be unmolested as long as the references are legitimate. You're doing really well so far as I can see! - Vianello (talk) 19:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

• Oh dear. I wasn't paying attention. The future tense was "the new court room strip from Twentieth Television that will make its launch in first-run national syndication on September 12, 2005." But 2005 isn't really future. - Vianello (talk) 03:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Email

{{Helpme}} How do I enable email on wikipedia? I have confirmed my email address on mypreferences. An example of enabled email is like on User:Ahoerstemeier 's page.Tm93 (talk) 03:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

• Go to another user's page or talk page, and click "e-mail this user". Also, please put new talk page posts on the bottom; you had this on top. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Apologies if this is a stupid question but it's the only thing I can think of to help. Have you both entered your email in the box and also marked the checkbox at the bottom "Enable e-mail from other users"? You may also need to confirm the email by clicking a link they send you. If you've already done all that and it's still not working then...I have no idea. Stardust8212 03:43, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Question

{{helpme}} Where do I look to find out which pages I have nominated for speedy deletion? I checked the my contributions folder. It only shows a couple. I know that I tagged more pages than that. Were they deleted? Is that why they don't show in the my contributions folder?

Tm93 (talk) 08:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, when a page is deleted, only administrators can see the contributions to it. --Golbez (talk) 08:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

RE:Thanks

It was no trouble at all but if you do want to give me a barnstar you can either drop it on my talk page or in the section of my userpage User:Stardust8212#Barnstars. I'm glad you were able to get your email sorted out. Stardust8212 13:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your speedy deletion question

Totally no biggie. What that phrase means, essentially, is that the article is on one of those given topics, and, to make it short and sweet, doesn't demonstrate why the heck anyone should care. Well, I should probably qualify that more. Essentially, it means the article doesn't put forward anything that demonstrates it even might be notable. Take a look at WP:Notability and its sub-pages for some information. Let me give you an example. If I make a page about my niece, that's blatantly non-notable. You could put a db-bio up on the page and safely expect it to be deleted. Nobody knows or cares about my niece (well, except her family and friends), there are no sources to establish she satisfies any notability criteria or ever will, etc. Now, if you think an article has a shot at notability but just doesn't have sources yet, or if it doesn't meet a SPECIFIC speedy deletion criterion, you might put a subst:prod template (in curly brackets, as always) up instead, followed by an explanation of why it ought to be deleted. For example, in curly brackets rather than quotes, "subst:prod|It's a page about the user's cat. Do I really need to explain the problem with this?" This starts a countdown of five days, during which others can remove the template if they feel it's erroneous or if they fix the problem. For example, if I make a page about my cat... well, there is no speedy deletion criterion for "non-notable pets", so you'd probably want to put a subst:prod template up (even though I bet you could get away with tagging it under db-vandalism or db-nonsense). Now, if you think the issue is going to be controversial, or if someone removes the prod template for no reason or for a really flimsy one, your recourse is an AfD template. You can then set up a page at AfD explaining why you feel the page should be deleted. If you use Twinkle, that handy program will set this page up for you automatically (though it sometimes takes a second). Other users can come in and discuss why they agree/disagree or propose alternatives, and after five days, an admin will make a ruling based on the discussion and act appropriately. Unlike subst:prod, AfD notices are not to be removed from pages until the subject is closed (and users who do so should be warned). Another tool you might want to be aware of is subst:prod-nn. If you just plain want to argue a page is non-notable, but it ISN'T elegible for a specific speedy deletion criterion, you can use this. Essentially, it affirms that you have attempted to find sources to verify the page as notable and have come up empty. You SHOULD actually do so before using this template, of course. It also provides links so others can confirm this. Try it out in your sandbox if you want. It carries a little more weight if you're arguing non-notability. Is that all clear enough? Any questions? - Vianello (talk) 18:29, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

• Technically it sort of will. While the tag is up, the page will be listed in the appropriate category page (prod pages, pages for speedy deletion, AfD, etc.), but removing the template will also instantly remove it from that category. AfD is a LITTLE different, as that basically just provides a link to the article's page on AfD. If such a page has been created, then that page would need removal too. But unless you use the Twinkle function, you won't have created such a page by accident. - Vianello (talk) 18:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

• Yep, it's all good. If you want, you could just go to the page, blank it, and put up a db-author or db-test speedy deletion template up. That'll make it quite abundantly clear what the situation is. Accidents happen. - Vianello (talk) 18:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

• I betcha what happened is the page got deleted and then someone re-created it. That would explain why it's not in the history, as well as what happened to the template. Just slap it up again if the problem isn't fixed. - Vianello (talk) 02:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Reasons

Never use the {{db}} tag without giving a reason. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 07:09, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Question

Hi. It says on my userpage, I registered on October 4, 2006. My first edit was at 20:52 UTC. If you're wondering about my edits, you can check the first edit counter here, although it's a bit slow. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 13:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

TWINKLE

If you want to be a newpage patroller, I suggest you use Twinkle. Thanks.Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 08:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

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Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

• Then download Mozilla Firefox. It's free. And the cookie was a note to encourage you to be more cheerful. Thanks, and happy editing! Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Sporn

Hello Tm93! I saw your comment at Redvers' talk page, apparently about the article Sporn you created? Yes, I'm aware of that joke, and I'm not surprised that the article was removed. In the future however, if it attracts more controversy, a mention of it might fit somewhere in the main Spore article under a (sub)section called Criticism (which doesn't exist yet). Cheers, Face 10:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, RHaworth just told me that you didn't create the article, but actually tried to have it deleted. So... then what exactly was the conflict you were talking about? Just let me know if I can help. Cheers, Face 16:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Redvers hasn't been active the last few days, so that's why I decided to answer your message myself. I hope he doesn't mind ;-). For more examples of the subject in question, see this (LOL!). Cheers, Face 19:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Shaka Laka Boom Boom (Indian Drama serial)

A couple of things. First, you're right. It is bad form for the creator of an article to remove a speedy deletion tag from the page. In general, other editors can remove speedy tags if appropriate, but if it gets quickly retagged, the best approach is to add {{hangon}} and start discussion. (By contrast, any editor can remove the {{prod}} tag at any time, and once it's been removed (unless by clear vandalism), it can't be re-added.)

Back to Umerfhussain. Had he done it more than once, I would have issued a warning while I was considering the page. There is a warning template, {{uw-speedy}}, for editors who inappropriately delete speedy deletion tags from articles they create. You could have added that to the creator's talk page to advise him. (Any editor can warn other editors, and the warning templates are standardized, neutrally-written warnings.)

Had there been a valid rationale, I would have either restored the tag or deleted the article on the spot. Since there was no rationale, I didn't restore the tag. And since it didn't qualify under any of the criteria, I added the appropriate cleanup tags ({{notability}} and {{unreferenced}}, if I recall correctly). —C.Fred (talk) 16:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh! In looking at the article today, I found out that an article called Shaka Laka Boom Boom already existed. As a result, the article at Shaka Laka Boom Boom (Indian Drama serial) is now just a redirect to the first article. If you click on the second link, it should say "Redirected from Shaka Laka Boom Boom (Indian Drama serial)" at the top; you can click on the link there to go to the redirect version and see its edit history - that's where your speedy tag and (your? someone else's?) prod are. —C.Fred (talk) 21:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wiki 'birthday' question

That works. Why do you ask, though? - Vianello (talk) 18:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

• Yep, I think that'd be it. I editted for a little while as an IP, but that's when I got my account, I think. - Vianello (talk) 21:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey,

By reading your UBX's, I see you're pretty cool too. Just know that I edit more in the Simple English Wikipedia. It's good to meet another Christian here on the English Wikipedia! Cheers -- America ^†alk 18:51, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Very true verse. Cheers -- America ^†alk 03:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Userbox size

Oh jeez. I have no idea. I don't use 'em, personally. That's the kind of fancy-pants visual arrangement I'm afraid I don't know squat about. Let me know if you get it sorted out though, and until/unless that happens, I'll let you know if I figure it out. - Vianello (talk) 20:36, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

{{helpme}} How do I change the size of a userbox that is already created? I have alot of userboxes on my user page. I am organizing them and it would help if I could resize some of them. Tm93 (talk) 23:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, most userboxes are in the userspace of other users; since they created the userboxes, it really wouldn't be very polite to go and change them. If you like, you can copy the code of the page and create a new userbox in your own userspace, then change it to your liking. Learn more about creating your own userspace pages here. GlassCobra 00:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

What you are doing with the userboxes on your page is called transclusion; they're actually in a completely different place, but having the double brackets around them places the code of the userbox on your page. I realize this may be difficult to understand, but the userboxes are not actually on your page. If you change the code of the userbox itself, you'll change it for every person who transcludes the userbox to their own page. Here, I'll tell you what, I'll do it for you. Which userboxes were you looking to change? GlassCobra 00:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, not a problem. In between the double brackets for each userbox is the location of the actual box itself; for example, User:Feureau/UserBox/LovesPizza. Put that into the search bar to go to the actual page. Hit the edit button, and copy and paste all the code for the userbox. Then make your own subpage (in this case, probably something like User:Tm93/LovesPizza) and then paste everything there; that way, it's in your userspace. Then you can change it all you like. Make sure you change the code on your main userpage, okay? Let me know if you need any other help! GlassCobra 00:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, you can place all the userboxes you want on a page. What I would do is take all the userboxes that you want to change and put them all on one page, maybe like User:Tm93/Userboxes. Once you've messed with their code until you have them the way you want, you can transclude all the rest to that page, then just put {{User:Tm93/Userboxes}} on your main userpage, which will transclude all of them. :) GlassCobra 02:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Yup, that should work just fine. Let me tell you a cool trick though, that I should have mentioned to you earlier. Instead of going to each one of the userboxes that you want to change and copying and pasting their code to your userbox page, just copy and paste the whole list of userboxes that you have right now to your userbox page. Then, add "subst:" before the name of the userbox, but inside the curly brackets, like this: {{subst:User:Feureau/UserBox/LovesPizza}}. Instead of transcluding it, that will just put the actual code right onto your page for you. I should have mentioned that sooner, sorry! GlassCobra 02:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Question

Can someone give me the link to where I can create my own userbox?Tm93 (talk) 06:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Make a page in your userspace to create it. For an example:

User:Tm93/Userbox

--SJP (talk) 06:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that would work. Give it a try:-) After you try that tell me if that works so I can better help someone next time someone asks a question like that;-) If that fails just copy the code instead.--SJP (talk) 07:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Tm93. My name is Ezekiel but everyone calls me Zeke. I see you've met my good friend American Eagle. We are both good friends and baptists though we don't know each other personally. I've looked at your user page and you seem to have a lot in common with me when it comes to life and video-games. It's good to know there is other Christian Wikipedians out there. Please if you want to join WikiProject Christianity. Best regards.--Ezekiel ^†alk 15:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Here our list of goals as copied from the page.

1. Attract attention from editors interested in Christianity and Christianity-related topics.
2. Look over the recent changes list for recent improvements to articles, other changes, and vandalism.
3. Create collaborative projects to systematically improve coverage.
   • Possibly including:
   1. A regular collaboration.
   2. Adopted Topic, where a suite of topically related articles are targeted for improvement until there's a consensus to move on to a new topic. (see here)
   3. Article Review, for articles nominated by members for wider review. In this case the new ones go at the top and sink as new ones are added. (see here)
   4. Bring a more neutral voice to articles which categorize a movement as non-Christian or a cult.
4. Improve the WPChristianity banner that goes at the head of Talk Pages to handle tags for unreferenced, copyedit needed, cleanup needed, expansion needed, and POV warning.
5. Help the Maintenance Department
   1. Add more reward templates (barnstars), and have people in the task force actually watching logs and rewarding key contributors.

Best Regards.--Ezekiel ^†alk 18:04, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

It's actually quite simple to sign up. Leave your signature on this page and your in. You will automatically receive newsletters from Tinucherian. Any more questions you can contact me anytime. Best regards.--Ezekiel ^†alk 18:13, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Click where it says on this page in the last message and leave your sig at the bottom of the page. The point is to expand Christian information across Wikipedia, showing your new userbox is unnecessary. Any more questions? Best Regards.--Ezekiel ^†alk 18:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh that is no problem. All I was saying is to make as many Christian related edits as possible. If something is deleted or undid by and admin don't panic. That's normal, it's happened to me many times . I see your using StatusBot. Here's an easier method of showing your status, follow this link WP:QUI and follow the directions and you'll have Qui which is an easier method of showing status and its also shows friends status as long as the also have Qui. Any questions, Contact me. Best Regards.--Ezekiel ^†alk 18:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, you'll have to be more specific on the artical your talking about. I'm not exactly sure what you mean. I'm sorry it took me a while to reply.--Ezekiel ^†alk 13:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Great!

Thats nice to hear:-D I'm sorry for not getting back to you quickly lately:-( I've been busy with other tasks. Happy editing:-)--SJP (talk) 21:21, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

userbox relocation

Hi, just a heads-up that a userbox you have on your pages (interest in conspiracy theories) has changed location to User:Sappho'd/Userboxes/Conspiracybutnoreptoids

Cheers. Drywontonmee (talk) 09:06, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way...

Hi. Unfortunately, I will likely soon not be able to edit very often. I will still edit and use Wikipedia, but not as much so I'm just dropping a note just in case you wanted to know. You may still drop me a greeting on my wiki-birthday, or a note anytime, but I might be busier than usual. Best wishes, ~AH1^(TCU) 21:39, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Nevermind, it turns out I'll still be here as usual, the semi-"wikibreak" was cancelled. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 22:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Status

All's quiet on the western front! I just joined up with WikiProject Arthropods. I figured it'd be a good way to facilitate my main "real" editorial interest; parasite zoology. Have you thought of joining any WikiProjects? If you want to create articles, or would like a base of articles to help build up, it might be a good way to get a "support network" going for your efforts. - Vianello (talk) 20:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

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Userboxes

Non-free images can not be used in templates (like userboxes) or be used on user pages. You can read the details at WP:NFCC. Please don't readd them again. BJ^Talk 04:44, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

All the images I removed from these userboxes are non-free. Like this image. BJ^Talk 09:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

Hey Tm93; unfortunately, I'm not taking adoptees at the moment. Thanks for reminding me to remove myself from the adopter page, though. You can still ask me questions anytime. GlassCobra 23:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Help

{{helpme}} I already have a monobook for me. I am helping a friend create a monobook for himself. Can you tell me how to create a monobook so that I can teach him? If possible please write me back on my talk page. Thanks and Happy Editing Tm93 (TALK) 01:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

To customize the monobook format you must either know how to write JavaScript and CSS, or just use the scripts that have been created by others, as you appear to have done. Is there something in particular you would like scripted? Prodego ^talk 01:50, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, just tell your friend whatever you did, right? Perhaps I don't understand? Prodego ^talk 02:43, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts should help you out. Prodego ^talk 02:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 07:52, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Purpose

True, you have done more than 500 edits but have you looked at their breakdown by namespace? I leave you to judge how much you are actually contributing to building an encyclopedia. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 14:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcome (if you see what I mean)

Hi Tm93! Yes, anyone can give out a welcome message. I'd suggest only leaving one after someone has made their first edit(s). Also, look out for people who have been here for a while without getting one (wikignomes can go months without someone noticing) - a welcome message to someone not new is just insulting! And try not to welcome blatant vandals (nobody minds, but you feel silly... I know! :o) To welcome someone, just leave the following on their talk page:

{{subst:welcome}} ~~~~

HTH! ➨ ЯEDVEЯS has wasted eight of nine lives 18:00, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Special:Preferences has a section for signature code. Tick "raw signature" when you're done. Don't: use images, don't make it larger than two lines of code in an ordinary edit window, don't include external links, don't include anything political or offensive or polemic in it, don't include anything that will distort a talk page (large, brightly coloured background, flashing, linebreaks, unreadable text, that type of thing) and don't pretend to be another user. Build it in your sandbox first and move the code to prefs only when it works. Remember, we're here to build an encyclopedia first, have a community second and play with user features a very poor third! ➨ ЯEDVEЯS has wasted eight of nine lives 21:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Help

{{helpme}} I am working on an article and need an image. I read the guidelines and it said that I could use a public domain. I have searched and searched, but can't find a "public domain" other than a wiki article. Does anyone know of a public domain? If possible please write me back on my talk page. Thanks and Happy Editing Tm93 (TALK) 01:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

• "Public domain" is just a common phrase meaning that something doesn't have a copyright on it because the author has chosen not to copyright it. For instance, a traditional folk tune might be in the "public domain", just like an uncopyrighted image or somesuch. A good place to look for free images (i.e., images that are in the "public domain") is Wikimedia Commons. Ten Pound Hammer Farfel and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells• Otter chirps)} 02:18, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

• Screen shots of TV shows are usually acceptable in infoboxes, yes, as they can be used as primary means of identification for the show. It would be better if it were a shot of the title card, though. Ten Pound Hammer Farfel and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells• Otter chirps)} 02:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Twinkle

Oh man, Twinkle is VERY handy. It essentially just is a set of extra functions for your interface while using Wikipedia. Things like undoing all of a vandal's recent consecutive edits in one click, and then automatically booting you to their talk page, where you can select an appropriate warning level and type from a dropdown menu and/or report them to AfD with another couple clicks. It's really quite swell. Takes a little configuring to make sure it's set up to your liking, but VERY worth looking into. The labor-saving value is extreme. - Vianello (talk) 03:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

• It's easy! Just go to your monobook.js via this link and paste the following text into it, then save the page:

importScript('User:AzaToth/twinkle.js');

Then just refresh your browser bypassing the cache (ctrl-R for Firefox) and you're good to go. You can get info on how to configure some of the options here. Just tweak it to your ideal preferences, check out Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc for instructions and info, and you'll be good to go! - Vianello (talk) 20:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of User:Tm93/sd

A tag has been placed on User:Tm93/sd, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as the Wikipedia:Business' FAQ for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on [[ Talk:User:Tm93/sd|the talk page]] explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. If possible please write me back on my talk page. Thanks and Happy Editing Tm93 (TALK) 22:41, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Help

{{helpme}} I, using Twinkle, accidentally placed a tag on one of my own pages (see above message). I edited the page and removed the tag. Did I do the right thing? I removed the tag myself. I didn't mean to place the tag. Just for future reference, how to I properly remove a tag that I place? If possible please write me back on my talk page. Thanks and Happy Editing Tm93 (TALK) 22:45, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Yep, that's fine and you've used the edit summary to show what you did. No problem. Hope this helps, Gazimoff_{(mentor/review)} 22:54, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Help

{{helpme}} Is there a template to put text into a box that has a show/hide button? Eg. sort of like the Table of Contents box only it has different text and doesn't have the table of contents. Thanks. If possible please write me back on my talk page. Thanks and Happy Editing Tm93 (TALK) 23:42, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

In your table - have a look at WP:TABLE for more information on them - add class="collapsible" at the top in order to make it colapsible, as so:

header 1
row 1, cell 1
row 2, cell 1

Hope this helps, Gazimoff_{(mentor/review)} 23:57, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

Hello Amir. I am not necessarilly new, but I was taking a look at the WP:ADOPT page and saw your name. I looked at your description on that page and noticed that you were also an admin which is what I wanted in an adopter. Like I stated before; I am not necessarily new but, I was interested in being adopted. Are you still open to adopting? If possible please write me back on my talk page. Thanks and Happy Editing Tm93 (TALK) 00:12, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello,

I am open for adoption. Please feel free to ask me for any help you want.

One important request: I like to have conversations grouped on one talk page. Otherwise it's very hard to follow them. This is the usual practice on Wikipedia. To follow discussions, use the Watchlist. Thanks for understanding. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletion requests

Hi, I deleted User:Tm93/helping, as you requested. In the future, if you want to pages in your own userspace to be deleted, you can use {{db-u1}}, which is designed specifically for such things. Cheers! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi. Thanks, and by the way, it's my Wikipedian birthday. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 21:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

"Thanks and Happy Editing!"

It appears that "Thanks and Happy Editing!" is a part of your signature. I'm sorry to be so picky, but it shouldn't be. It looks like it's a part of the text of your message, but it is repetitive and confusing. When it's so repetitive, it doesn't really convey the feeling that you are wishing me "happy editing".

To put it short - just leave your username in the signature. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 20:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

How so?

What do you mean repetitive? (I have changed my sig., but am still curious.) Thanks! ⊥m93 (or Taylore) likes to talk. 20:47, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Repetitive = it is repeated in every message that you write. Sometimes it is hardly related to the message itself. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 20:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Now I see what you mean. But what's wrong with it? I placed that in my signature so I could wish whomever I was writing to a "Happy Editing"! I want the others, who I may be talking to, to have an enjoyable time editing. If its in my signature I don't have to worry about writing each time. Any interjections? P.S. You can reply here if you wish. I am watching your page. I will be notified of any changes to your talk page. Thanks! ⊥m93 (or Taylore) likes to talk. 20:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

That's the thing - when it is so repetitive, then it's apparent that it's automatic and if you - as you say - don't "worry" about it each time, then it doesn't look like you actually mean to wish your peer "happy editing". Besides it may seem out of place. Consider this:

• "Please stop vandalizing pages! Thanks and happy editing!"

And what if you just wanted to say thanks to someone? It would like this:

• "Thanks! Thanks and happy editing!"

Even more repetitive!

Now it appears that you have "Thanks!" as part of your new signature. You shouldn't have that either. Politeness shouldn't be automatic. You signature should have just your username.

I'm sorry for sounding so didactic and preachy, but what can i say... think about it. :) Also, read Wikipedia:Signatures for more ideas.

Finally, since i started this discussion here, i'd like it to remain here. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 21:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok is this signature better? ⊥m93 (or Taylore) likes to talk. 21:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this is better. I would also remove the User:Tm93/SigRed link, as it is a bit redundant, but it's not too terrible.

And there's no need to tell me that you left me a new message on your talk page, as i am watching it. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 21:21, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and i would also leave out the "likes to" part, or at least make it small, 'cuz it looks like it's a part of the message. Consider writing <small>likes to talk</small>--Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 21:23, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Also. Did you have any input concerning this message I left you? ⊥m93 (or Taylore) likes to talk. 21:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Never mind. ha ha. I can read. At first, I ddin't realize that you had replied. ⊥m93 (or Taylore) likes to talk. 21:17, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

how about this?

⊥m93 (Taylore) ^{likes to talk.} 21:32, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Purpose

You have just passed the 700 edits milestone. But do you see any difference between the pie chart on this page and the corresponding pie chart for yourself? — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 04:17, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

• I'm not trying to be rude, but what are you trying to say? I'm still working toward articles, it just takes me longer than others. ⊥m93 (Taylore) ^{likes to talk.} 16:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

So far it has taken you four months. I leave you to decide whether you are actually "working toward" or just using Wikipedia as a chat room. I will review you again when you hit 900 edits. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 17:25, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I have just noticed that you have a count of deleted edits. New page patrolling is a valid and useful activity - keep it up. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 17:31, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

New Page Patrolling

Hi. Thank you for your help with the vital work of patrolling new pages. I noticed that you are not marking some of the pages you've reviewed as patrolled. Please do remember to click the 'mark this page as patrolled' link at the bottom of the new page if you have performed the standard patrolling tasks. Where appropriate, doing so saves time and work by informing fellow patrollers of your review of the page, so that they do not duplicate efforts. Thanks again for volunteering your time at the new pages patrol project. NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 23:00, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes

Hi Tm93. I moved some userboxes you created from template namespace to your user namespace to give you the control you requested on User:Tm93/userboxes created. Also, user pages should be in user namespace, not template namespace. If you want wider use of your templates, you can add them to the subpages at User:UBX. -- Suntag ☼ 19:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey

Hey Tm39, how's life going. Cheerio!--Ezekiel 7:19 ^†alk 16:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Read below ↓

My Apologies

Future message, until told otherwise, may or may not be answered in a timely matter; as I am currently on a friend of mine's computer. My laptop that I edit on WP has messed up & I am currently working on getting it fixed. I will notify you when, I get it fixed. My apologies. Thanks and Happy Editing ⊥m93 TALK 19:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Obtaining Geo Coordinates

It's probably not worth adding it if we cannot extract coordinates from it; the purpose of the table appears to me to list ways you can get to the coord from some other data - an address or a point&click interface. There may be some way to do it with the site you pointed too, but neither you nor I can find it. And yes, I was suggesting that you add it yourself (but before we'd concluded that it doesn't give us coords - advice now is, don;t add it). You were entirely right to raise it first at the talk page but had the site given coords, it's as well for you to be prepared to make your own amendments to tables such as this. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I think I'm saying something slightly different

• Be bold & just do it, except in cases where it is better to...
• ...discuss it first, and when you have consensus in the discussion, be bold & just do it

and this is in marked contrast to:

• Ask for someone else to do it / hope someone else will do it.

In this instance, you asked "Where do I request that this be "checked-out" to be used as a way to obtain geographic coordinates?" ... and it happens that you asked it in the right place & got a form of "it checks out" answer coupled with a "go for it" answer.

Bottom line: I am encouraging you that you can just do it, but do need to be sensitive to the need to discuss before making a change. On the limited evidence of the above request, seems to me you're doing things just right. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

How to get WikiWorld Comics(User:zobango)

I saw your post and I think I have an answer. This should help.

Nice chatting with you 96.240.0.213 (talk) 22:55, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Explanation

If you check the editing section, it contains a source code that changes the comic everytime you edit the page. Ask me if you want it moved to your userpage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.240.0.213 (talk) 22:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes

Yes it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.240.0.213 (talk) 23:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

HELPME

{{helpme}} Where can I find all of the proper steps for taking and WikiBreak? ⊥m93 ^talk. 19:23, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

• WP:BREAK? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 19:24, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy birthday!

Hey, Tm93/Archives. Just stopping by to wish you a Happy Birthday from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!-- I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 19:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I know it was a while ago, but thanks for noticing. ⊥m93 ^talk. 04:37, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - July 2009

The current edition of the newsletter is available at {{WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/July 2009}} .To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. John Carter (talk) 23:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks!

Sorry for the late reply. I've been busy with work and not around on here much. But I appreciate the words of congratulations! You keep up the good work yourself now, and stay in touch! Which is a slightly hypocritical thing for me to suggest, but hey, I trust you not to hold that against me. *grin* - Vianello (Talk) 05:57, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

No harm, man. I know you know what wikipedia is for so no worries. ⊥m93 ^talk. 16:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit summary

I see what you were saying i have takin it to the talk page.I was just explaining why I made the edit.I hope you sent the same messege to the other user.I also have a question about your talk page,how do I make my talk page show that my user if off or online and how do I do the same thing for my User page.Please reply on my talk page.--Anesleyp (talk) 01:28, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

You have taken it to the talk page? What talk page would that be now? You haven't even acknowledged the discussion I started. --uKER (talk) 12:44, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

When I say taken it to the talk page I mean YOUR talk page.--Anesleyp (talk) 23:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

• GUYS!!!! Use your own pages to discuss things between yourself! ⊥m93 ^talk. 23:42, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Apoligy

Sorry for using your talk page to cummunicate with UKER. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anesleyp (talk • contribs) 22:02, 14 October 2009 (UTC--Anesleyp (talk) 23:48, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Apology accepted. ⊥m93 ^talk. 03:34, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I know it's been a while.

I know it no longer matters and that it has been such a "long" time since this happened. But I just wanted to add that I agree to an extent. I do believe that some admins don't care about the words that they use, but the fact is that a lot of editors "look up" to them as people who should know what to do on this project. Using the wrong words may discourage editors from editing. And last time I checked this was a project where ANYONE can come and gather with other editors to build this project. But I think that desysoping would only depend on the case. I know that is why you say "may" be desysoped, but in most cases it wouldn't be fit. Cases where it would be fit would be situations/cases where admin x has repeatedly done this and doesn't intend to change their ways or even be careful about how they approach things. But anyways, I'm positive this doesn't matter a whole lot; just wanted to say that I agree. ⊥m93 ^talk. 02:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate your thoughts on the matter. I think that sometimes there are cases of admin edit summaries or other commments that are so completely uncalled for that immediate suspension of admin privileges may be appropriate. We need to make sure that our admins understand that they are, as you say, examples for the rest of us. Cla68 (talk) 06:59, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

RE to "NAGGING

Ok I see what your saying but maybe you should do the same.Your sitting here nagging me about another user when you could be editing wiki.Im not stupid,i know how to check for administrators.Also I only checked UKER in like two sentences, you used WAY to much of my talk page to get your messeage across.You could have used one sentence to get your message across.Your nagging me.So maybe you should "be focused on expanding WP rather than keeping other users in-line" And this is to everyone the reason I dont have many edits is because i have a life (not like you and the other cumputer nerds who have never been on a date).P.S. your clouding up my talk page about some stupid shit that doesn't concern you, that messege was for UKER and UKER only not you or anyone else. OH and wait for this:

DGAFThis user does not give a fuck.

Reply

"Nobody cares HOW many edits you have. Quantity doesn't matter, it's quality. And I'm not nagging you per se. I'm trying to help you out. That is anther wiki thing we do here; we help each other out. Whether informally or formally, we do. And it doesn't matter how much space I take up. It's a talk page. What does that mean...? Hmm let's think.... TO TALK! And just because I provide a useful link to help you check to see if they are an admin doesn't mean I'm calling you stupid. And in the future please refrain from using such language in your messages. We're trying to be polite not rude here on WP"

First off you are nagging me,either you must be incredibly stupid or oblivious to the obvious.You are not helping me.And the only reason i made mention of you "clouding" up my talk page was because you said I was cloud up Uker's talk page when I only typed one sentence so please try to remember something you conjured up.And I will not refrain from cursing,it's what I do.So basically your asking me not to be my self and I will always be myself and not change for you our any other FUCKER who says other-wise.I will not become a mindless cumputer nerd like you who hasn't losed his virginity our kissed a girl.I will continue to curse just like this:FUCK YOU,YOU ASS HOLE.YOUR A MOTHER FUCKING BITCH WHORE.And I will continue to use such language you ASSHOLE.If you have a problem with me guess what::

DGAFThis user does not give a fuck.

--Anesleyp (talk) 00:08, 29 November 2009 (UTC)