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September 2017

Why it's not a good idea to edit Wikipedia with an acute health condition

We all have our troubles from time to time. The above link documents what happened when I contracted food poisoning recently. I didn't particularly want to keep the discussion in my talk page archives, but have provided a link here to a previous version of this page that explains the episode. This is Paul (talk) 14:39, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi again

Glad to see you're back at it. EEng 04:15, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, feels great to be back in the saddle again. This is Paul (talk) 10:30, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

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Murder of Jo Cox

I'll take a look, thanks, but already know you've done a great job, as you always do. This is Paul (talk) 13:19, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

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Years in British Radio articles

Excellent work regarding your contributions to the Years of British Radio series. Your additions have massively improved the articles and are now as comprehensive as the Years in British television series. Rillington (talk) 16:14, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I've been meaning to do it for ages, but needed a couple of free weekends where nothing else was happening. I've probably missed quite a lot of the older stuff stuff so feel free to add anything else you can think of. This is Paul (talk) 16:26, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks, hope you had a good one. This is Paul (talk) 18:49, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Westminster sexual misconduct allegations

Hi Paul. I saw your suggestion on the UK Politics Wikiproject about creating an article, I don't know if you've see on the project talk page recently, but we're continuing on with the discussion. Any further input from yourself would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards IJA (talk) 21:51, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Carl Sargeant: Cause of death (suicide) should NOT be written as if it had already been established (contempt of court)

In England and Wales, whether a person has died (in a suspicious, unnatural or unexplained death) from suicide or not, is usually only formally and properly established, concluded or determined by someone called a coroner, in something called a Coroner's Inquest ... until the Inquest on the matter of the death of the late Carl Sargeant AM has been concluded, I would suggest that reports of suicide from even from such eminent and respectable journals as the Mirror, the Guardian, the Socialist Worker and the Morning Star should not be misused here in order to "jump the gun" before the coroner (and his jury, if there is to be one) has actually have the chance of finishing doing his (or their) job under the Coroners Act 1988 (1998 c. 13) [1] and the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 (2009 c. 25) [2]. "From an unconfirmed suspected suicide", not "from suicide". (Under the Contempt of Court Act 1981 (1981 c. 49) [3], which also covers the work of coroners and Coroners' Courts, the maximum penalty according to Section 14(1)(2) [4] is a fine not exceeding £2,500 or 2 years' imprisonment, or both. [5][6][7]: "Commenting on the results of an inquest could prevent a future criminal trial as the defendant may not be able to get a fair trial.") --- 87.102.116.36 (talk) 07:20, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Without reading up on this, I've no idea whether what has been added would breach the pieces of legislation you mention, but as far as I can see the article is only reporting what has already been said elsewhere. For the record though, I haven't added this information, and I doubt most of the people you contacted did either. When you want to make someone aware of something you believe they've done wrong, you would be wise to either post on the talk page of the user concerned, or post on the talk page of the article. Doing what you did (i.e., posting to everyone who edited the article) can be seen as spamming, which is generally discouraged here. This is Paul (talk) 09:55, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Jo Stafford

So great to see Jo Stafford on the Main page as part of selected anniversaries on what would have been her 100th birthday. This is Paul (talk) 00:44, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Timeline of BBC Radio 2

I have just created the above article but the early years are a bit thin on details. Any additions/new information would be much appreciated. Rillington (talk) 20:59, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Nice article. Good work. I guess there's probably more early stuff we could grab from BBC Genome, but we may have to scroll through a few pages to find it. I'll have a look sometime over the next few days. It might be towards next weekend before I can do much though. This is Paul (talk) 21:51, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. As you will have seen, BBC Genome helped massively in providing precise dates for many of the entries and BBC Genome will help us to further expand the article. Rillington (talk) 20:43, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Jacinda Ardern pic

Can you show me the proof of the debate. Then I will not change the image. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvfmgnlllj (talk • contribs)

Well there's a very long talkpage discussion about which one to use. That image was decided on as it's the most recent we have, and most representative of her as she looks now. No doubt there'll be an official one at some point, and we'll use that instead. This is Paul (talk) 23:56, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Oh and @Jvfmgnlllj:, remember to sign your comments like this ~~~~ in future. Thanks, This is Paul (talk) 23:59, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
@Jvfmgnlllj:, this discussion should help you. This is Paul (talk) 00:14, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

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Oxford Tube Station

I am not sure if this is the norm but was it wise to create an article so quickly? Sources like this one report no casualties and not a trace of a single shot being fired. Can anything notable really be said of police responding to a false alarm?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:32, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Probably not, as we didn't have much information about it at the time. There's another article though, so I'm not the only one who had the idea, and at least I chose neutral language. This is Paul (talk) 18:34, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
According to this report two men had an altercation on the platform. This is Paul (talk) 23:46, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
And released without charge. This is Paul (talk) 16:17, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

IABot

Fearing I've broken IABot by introducing it to Cheryl, as it's been analyzing the next job for ten minutes. Please tell me it isn't so. This is Paul (talk) 20:05, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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Back now, and feeling suitably recharged. This is Paul (talk) 22:00, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Good to hear! EEng 04:52, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, This is Paul (talk) 15:44, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 08:33, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Henry Bolton Move

Hi, could you review your decision on the Henry Bolton move request Talk:Henry_Bolton_(British_politician)? Page usage for Hnery Bolton has settled down to a level of about 300 views per day which is comparable to some major front banch members of the government in the UK such as Jeremy Hunt Liam Fox Greg Clark Chris Grayling Sajid Javid. His opinions on Brexit, immigration, security and other topics are likely to remain of high interest for years to come because of his career experience and position as leader of UKIP. None of the other people on the disambiguation page come close to this level of interest. I know there was some opposition to the move but these have to be weighted according to how well they addressed the relevant Wikipedia policies. Weburbia (talk) 11:57, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

I still think it's a bit early to make a decision about this, as we only had the move discussion a few weeks ago. I haven't seen much media coverage of him, and Farage still seems to be the UKIP Brexit go to man for soundbites. I'd say let's revisit this in Spring 2018 and see how the situation is then. This is Paul (talk) 20:37, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for putting this in the wrong place and thanks for your reply anyway. My point is that the traffic statistics alone are sufficient to justify him as primary topic by a huge margin. It is not necessary for him to be in the news every day. He has been on BBC question time and other national news reports though. Farage does still get more interest but the comparison is supposed to be with other people called Henry Bolton, not with Farage. Weburbia (talk) 22:04, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Well...comparing him with other Henry Boltons brings us back to my point about officeholders. The other politicians who share his name held legislative office for some years, but he hasn't done so yet. This is Paul (talk) 22:10, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
That doesn't matter. His notability stands out from the others for other reasons. In any case the usage criterion is overwhelming in this case and that is sufficient to make him the primary topic. He gets about 100 times as many views as any of the other pages. How can that not justify primary topic? Weburbia (talk) 22:32, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
You raise the point that WP:Primary topic says that page usage is one of two major criteria for determination or the primary topic. But putting aside the viewing figures for a moment...how else does he stand out from the others? Also I suggest you refrain from banging on about political bias, as you did here, because people may interpret that as whingeing. This is Paul (talk) 22:44, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi

Could you take a look at this SPI that I have been mysteriously included in. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kurtan~enwiki. Based apparently on a !vote at a AfD for C. Johan Masreliez. I have no association to that account and I learned my lesson years ago. As I have no association any IP connection should be easily established. I find this very odd.BabbaQ (talk) 16:15, 5 December 2017)

Looks like this was resolved before I got to it. My advice is to chill, and take no notice. This is Paul (talk) 23:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

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Christmas Wikibreak

:) I'm sure it would be quite easy to get hold of one in jail. Guess I should have said access to my computer. I'm staying with relatives and sadly don't have the luggage space to take the PC with me. Maybe someone will let me borrow one for a while. This is Paul (talk) 13:35, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Been home for a few hours, but too exhausted today to really do that much, mostly because of the length of time it took to travel. Had a great Christmas break though, and plan to be editing again some time tomorrow. This is Paul (talk) 01:59, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from Canada's Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:03, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, hope you had a good one. This is Paul (talk) 02:00, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Articles for Creation Reviewing

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AfC submissions
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