User talk:Theleftorium/Archive 6
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I am wondering why you removed my edits AND references from this article? And did you then nominate it for deletion or was that someone else? What's up. Doc? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 04:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I accidentally removed the non-infringing content you had written because you had mixed it with the infringing content. Next time you should probably rewrite the article in your userspace instead and then replace the "real" article with that. And no, I did not nominate it for deletion. That was Bearcat (talk · contribs). Theleftorium 10:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back to me. I often wonder and sometimes even worry about these things. I was intentionally mixing my writings with the other stuff to create something that was not a copyright violation. It seems to me that the plagiarized parts of this article, from Find-a-Grave I believe, were actually lifted there from somewhere else, but since they (FaG . . .hmmmm?) do not have the sort of eye towards copyrights that we do they were not concerned. Life is good, Happy New Year, unless you are holding out for the Tibetan New Year, in which case we can discuss it then. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 03:39, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- Happy New Year to yourself. :) Theleftorium 10:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
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The Simpsons
Why did you remove my ratings table from The Simpsons article? It was referenced, and most articles on shows use seasonal ratings now.. Pic Editor960 (talk) 16:58, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- You do not have consensus to add that table to the article. See Talk:The_Simpsons#Nielsen_Rating for the discussion that took place earlier. Theleftorium 17:00, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wasted a lot of time for nothing then! lol. Pic Editor960 (talk) 17:04, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
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I've done the GAR for it: Talk:The Magical Worlds of Harry Potter/GA1. The Flash {talk} 03:03, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Johan Fredrik Höckert
Materialscientist (talk) 06:00, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
One Time image
Just wondering, why is File:Bieberonetimedance.jpg listed for deletion as it enhances the article by giving the reader a visual of Bieber performing the song. Candyo32 (talk) 17:16, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't enhance the understanding of the article at all. All it shows is Bieber and his three back-up dancers. This image also fails part 1 of the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria ("No free equivalent"). Surely a free alternative of him performing the song must be available? Theleftorium 17:23, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- Here's one: [1] Theleftorium 17:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- No free equivalent exists that would effectively identify the article's subject Candyo32 (talk) 17:28, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- I provided you with one that's just as good ([2]). I'm sure more free equivalents exist (or can be created). Theleftorium 17:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- However, the provided image is not of the select song. Candyo32 (talk) 17:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- How are you able to tell? Theleftorium 17:43, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- My mistake, I according to a news article he was performing the song. Candyo32 (talk) 17:46, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- How are you able to tell? Theleftorium 17:43, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- However, the provided image is not of the select song. Candyo32 (talk) 17:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- I provided you with one that's just as good ([2]). I'm sure more free equivalents exist (or can be created). Theleftorium 17:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- No free equivalent exists that would effectively identify the article's subject Candyo32 (talk) 17:28, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
lol
Thanks for the vote of confidence, however misguided it may be. ;) — Hunter Kahn (c) 21:19, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Al Jean, eh?
Good luck. Try to ensure neutrality by balancing fan criticism of him with his comments saying that he ignores fan criticism, you should find one in every single interview he has given in the last 6 years. On a slightly more serious note, you may be able to use this hilarious quote from him: "Well, it's possible that we've declined. But honestly, I've been here the whole time and I do remember in season two people saying, 'It's gone downhill.' If we'd listened to that then we would have stopped after episode 13. I'm glad we didn't." (Benji Wilson (9-1-2010). "The writer". Radio Times. p. 16. {{cite news}}
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(help)) Probably sums up the arrogant contadiction that is Al Jean (why would you have ended the show after 13 episodes due to criticism in season 2). Anyway, enough of my anti-Jean rambling, good luck with the page. Gran2 21:00, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- You really like to stalk, huh? ;) Thanks for the quote, it will definitely be useful in the article. And feel free to help out if you want to. :) Theleftorium 21:11, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- My therapist told me it was a great way to meet people ;) But seriously, it's nice to see what people get up to, especally when I have no real time to do all that much myself. But I'll see if I can find anything else for Jean's article at some point. Gran2 21:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the autograph!
The Flash was first, but you win most creative so far. ;) — Hunter Kahn 15:09, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Heh, you're welcome. ;-) Theleftorium 15:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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Just in case
Assuming MRG forwarded you my email, I just need to confirm that you know I'll be quite busy over the next week or so. If you need to email me, feel free, but I might be a bit slow with responses. Best, ceranthor 01:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- Alright. I hope you're okay with the rescheduling of the RfA. I'll contact you in February and if you're still interested in nominating me we can set a date. :) Theleftorium 11:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Re: Trapper Keeper
I'll try, but unfortunately, as of about a week ago, my access to Lexis Nexis has become much more limited. :( It might take me a while... — Hunter Kahn 14:16, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK for William Allen Rogers
Materialscientist (talk) 00:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Hugo Birger
Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I've performed a GAR on the article for you to check out. Cheers! The Flash {talk} 18:53, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
WikiCup 2010 and Dermatology-related content
I noticed that you are participating in the 2010 WikiCup. I have been working on the Bolognia push which is a project to make sure Wikipedia has an article (or redirect) on every know cutaneous condition. With that being said, there are still many cutaneous condition stubs to be made, and Bolognia could be a source for a lot of DYK articles, etc. Therefore, I was thinking maybe we could help one another... a competative WikiCup that also serves to improve dermatologic content on Wikipedia. I could e-mail you the Bolognia login information if you have any interest? ---kilbad (talk) 03:14, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry dude, dermatology doesn't really interest me. Good luck though. :) Theleftorium 15:04, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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Här kommer decenniets första ÄnglaNytt - information från Svenska kyrkan Los Angeles... I've been wanting to check out this church for Swedes in the shipping industry (it's in a harbor area), but everything they send me is in Swedish. I saw something about gravlax though, and some sort of hot cider type drink, so it seems worthwhile. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:51, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Is that church driven together with the Norwegian Sjømannskirken (no:Den norske sjømannskirken (San Pedro))? There weren't many sources for the Swedish one, but I was able to find some stuff about the Norwegian church ([3], [4]). Theleftorium 18:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)- Nevermind me, I see you discovered that already. I'll see if I can add some sources. :) Theleftorium 18:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- It's funny because even though it's a Norwegian church, the Swedes at it seem to be the ones doing e-mail updates and all that. Indeed I figured out that it's a merged church. Kind of interesting. That area has Croatian, Greek and Italian immigrant communities also, but it's becoming more Mexican now. It's a harbor area with some itneresting history. I like those kinds of threads. This website has a more general take on the Swedish history of Los Angeles [5]. Thanks for your help. Now I'm craving gravlax. A friend of mine it Norwegian/ Swedish but it's hard to get them to go to these things. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry about any edit conflict I caused. I'm off it now. If you want to expand it that would be great, because I can't read those sources you linked. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- Heh, I love gravlax, especially gravlax-jansson. :-) Theleftorium 20:32, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- I've expanded the article now so I'll nominate it for DYK. Theleftorium 21:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- You did a great job! Thanks so much. Very interesting. And I like that the article really captures the flavor of the place and what it's all about. Oftentimes article just give dates and recount events with no color. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- No problemo, and thanks! I'm glad I was able to help. Theleftorium 15:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- You did a great job! Thanks so much. Very interesting. And I like that the article really captures the flavor of the place and what it's all about. Oftentimes article just give dates and recount events with no color. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Million Dollar Maybe
Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Norwegian Seamen's Church
Hello! Your submission of Norwegian Seamen's Church at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Manxruler (talk) 02:57, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
A Streetcar Named Marge
Don't you think that the top 10 list should be mentioned somewhere on the article? The Times is a notable newspaper, and several articles about Simpsons episodes mention the ranking on EW's top 25 list.Aquila89 (talk) 22:37, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- I won't oppose adding it, but A Streetcar Named Marge is a Featured article and should be held to a high standard. Simply stating that the episode was included in a top 10 doesn't really reveal much about it, and seems a bit trivial. Theleftorium 17:59, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- Hm. Homer's Phobia is a featured article, and it says: "It was placed fifth on Entertainment Weekly's top 25 The Simpsons episode list", without elaborating, similarly to The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson, also featured. Aquila89 (talk) 18:48, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I've added it back into the article. Theleftorium 20:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- Hm. Homer's Phobia is a featured article, and it says: "It was placed fifth on Entertainment Weekly's top 25 The Simpsons episode list", without elaborating, similarly to The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson, also featured. Aquila89 (talk) 18:48, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Alfred Wahlberg
Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
The Jungle (1967 film)
Thanks for your message. Since the last issue on my creating the 9-11 Film Festival entry came up, many months ago, I've made more than 500 edits (some very minor ones on old films . ..!) without any problem or "bot attacks". I was just editing that entry when the bot entry happened. I have added the Library of Congress press release on the 2009 nominations (which include the above-named film) to the National Film Registry as a link under References.
Important note -- in both cases (this one and 9-11 Film Festival) the Wiki-bot picked up an *unauthorized use* by *another website* not related to LofC, which allows fair use in articles about the National Film Registry nominations. (And the bot jumped in within seconds, before I was finished with the first edit.) Thanks again for reading this. Tjmayerinsf (talk) 21:32, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
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Simpsons
can you respond to my question just so I know what's going on. Thanks, CTJF83 chat 18:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
- What exactly does an episode FA need above what an episode GA has? CTJF83 chat 19:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
- Compare Wikipedia:Featured article criteria with Wikipedia:Good article criteria. Theleftorium 20:27, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, I guess I kinda understand.... CTJF83 chat 17:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Compare Wikipedia:Featured article criteria with Wikipedia:Good article criteria. Theleftorium 20:27, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Star Wars Episode I: Obi-Wan's Adventures
Materialscientist (talk) 12:00, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks
The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar | ||
For your invaluable contribution this now completed CCI. Your work is very much appreciated! Moonriddengirl (talk) 03:36, 23 January 2010 (UTC) |
- Not your first; probably not your last. :) But you deserve it. One of the fastest completes in CCI's history. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 03:36, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks so much! :) It was probably one of the easiest completes in CCI's history though. Mostly just plot sections that needed to be removed. ;) Theleftorium 11:12, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Ringsjön
Hello! Your submission of Ringsjön at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 06:11, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Re: talk page tagging: if it's eligible for Did You Know, it's by definition not a stub. Cool? Geschichte (talk) 12:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, thanks for fixing that. I forgot to change the class when I copied the templates from another article. Theleftorium 12:05, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Star Wars: Flight of the Falcon
Materialscientist (talk) 00:00, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
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dyk comment
I verified your dyk hook but also made a comment here about the use of a Google Translator version of the author's comment in the article. Was wondering if you could make the translation sound more normal. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 23:34, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Norwegian Seamen's Church, San Pedro
The DYK project 12:00, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Cool article. Thanks again! ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:19, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Negative thinking
I'm very glad, and somewhat relieved, that you enjoyed it! The reaction at the screening I attended was somewhat mixed, I think because many in the American audience didn't have an appreciation for Nordic culture and so couldn't relate to the humor. (On the other hand a lot of people here liked Kitchen Stories which was torture for me.... so who know!!!) I was happy to see it won a big award at a major festival in Europe that helped it get wider release. It's a pretty sick movie I suppose, but I thought it was very provocative and funny with a lot of good artistic commentary on popular culture and conventions. I'll try to take a look. Take care. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:40, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, I mucked about and rewrote the script several times. See what you think and please fix anything I mangled. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:37, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for the help, the additions are great! You must have a good memory to remember so much of the plot. :-) I nominated the article for DYK (as a co-nom) with the hook "... that director Bård Breien's directorial debut was the Norwegian film The Art of Negative Thinking, for which he won the 'Best Director' award at the 2007 Karlovy Vary International Film Festival?" Theleftorium 20:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- It made a big impression on me. I like foreign films because so many in the U.S. are so utterly shallow. To spend tens of millions on a movie without even bothering to develop a good storyline or dialogue is a tragedy. :) I guess I like more realistic characters which the casting and genuine qualities of Negative Thinking really captured. It didn't have much over acting type drama or haha funny acting.
- I actually saw the movie when it was screened at the American Film Institute's festival in LA, so I got to meet the director and ask questions. My friend who is Nordic (and works with people recovering from tramautic brain injuries) also loved it. I think it will be a cult classic, but it needs more buzz.
- Was You, the living any good? The title reminds me of Ayn Rand's We the Living, but I don't know if there's any connection.
- Doesn't the main character in Negative Thinking turn a hose on the socializing group at one point? I still laugh just thinking about all the craziness in the movie like the way Tori drives or when the main character comes down the motorized stair climber dressed as a Vietnam movie character or Rambo or something (I forget who exactly he was made to look like, but I remember the bandana, long hair and attire...). That movie is so ironic. It was challenging find myself laughing so hard at someone trying to throw themselves off a roof, only to find they can't get their wheel chair over a divet. Really great stuff. Sick. I guess that's why I liked it? Oh well. :)
- Anyway, I'm just glad you enjoyed the movie! Thanks very much for creating an article on it. I enjoyed reading it.
- Elling is also one of my favorites, and there was a Denmark crime movie where the guy sets up a restaurant out in the woods that was good too, but I can't remember the name or the details. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:33, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- Or maybe it wasn't a bandana. I just looked at a clip and he wear a baseball cap. And it was a fire extinguisher not a hose? Uh oh, there goes the memory... :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:15, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
- You, the Living was good, especially the music, but I think its perhaps a bit overrated. I generally prefer foreign-language films over Swedish films, which often have really crummy lines don't sound believable (lines that no average Swede would use). Although foreigners don't notice that so I guess its a bit hard to explain. English is generally a much richer language than Swedish. That's why I speak and think in Swenglish all the time IRL. :) Theleftorium 15:56, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for the help, the additions are great! You must have a good memory to remember so much of the plot. :-) I nominated the article for DYK (as a co-nom) with the hook "... that director Bård Breien's directorial debut was the Norwegian film The Art of Negative Thinking, for which he won the 'Best Director' award at the 2007 Karlovy Vary International Film Festival?" Theleftorium 20:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Did you know... that The Art of Negative Thinking is a Norwegian movie about a parapalegic who rebels against the interventions of his support group and its lead social worker?
- That's a much better hook, thanks! Theleftorium 15:56, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
- I just went and checked and your hook looks good! :) People often reject or change mine anyway. In a case like this I figure most people haven't heard of the director or that perticular award, event though it's a major one. Those are things I want them to find out about by reading the article! So I try to lure them in with something intriguing that they might want to learn more about and can relate to ie. a parapalegic, a rebel, a social worker. Someone will probably object that it just summarizes the movie, but I think it just gives a teaser of the broad outline and people may want to know more. And I think those subjects are things of interest to people. Working in the Vietnam war movies and pot smoking would have worked too. Who knows? Like I said, I rarely see eye to eye with the DYK folks. :) For example I thought it was cool that an architect designed a building where reform Judaism was established in the United States, but a different hook was chosen about how he designed two buildings listed on the National Register of Historic Places. But I don't know if people can get into that because most have never heard of the buildings (even though the are significant and interesting historically). My understanding of a hook is that it's to try to snag people and make them want to learn more about a subject. So it seems to me that lots of places are historic and listed on the register, but a building where something really significant happened (especially to many Jewish readers) would be a better hook. I've also tried hooks that are somewhat mysterious to lure people in, like not saying where something is if I think it will add curiosity because I think it's good if hooks don't just summarize an article, but that has caused objections too. So who knows. What would the Art of Negative Thinking suggest? ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:48, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- I know what you mean. For the ferret legging article I chose the hook "... that the sport of ferret legging is open only to sober male contestants, who must first remove their underwear?" That certainly made people curious. ;-) Theleftorium 16:14, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- Exactly. I guess there are those who want the hooks to stand on their own and be informative. There's something to be said for that maybe. But I think having teasers can be fun also. It's good to make people inquisitive. Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- I know what you mean. For the ferret legging article I chose the hook "... that the sport of ferret legging is open only to sober male contestants, who must first remove their underwear?" That certainly made people curious. ;-) Theleftorium 16:14, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- I just went and checked and your hook looks good! :) People often reject or change mine anyway. In a case like this I figure most people haven't heard of the director or that perticular award, event though it's a major one. Those are things I want them to find out about by reading the article! So I try to lure them in with something intriguing that they might want to learn more about and can relate to ie. a parapalegic, a rebel, a social worker. Someone will probably object that it just summarizes the movie, but I think it just gives a teaser of the broad outline and people may want to know more. And I think those subjects are things of interest to people. Working in the Vietnam war movies and pot smoking would have worked too. Who knows? Like I said, I rarely see eye to eye with the DYK folks. :) For example I thought it was cool that an architect designed a building where reform Judaism was established in the United States, but a different hook was chosen about how he designed two buildings listed on the National Register of Historic Places. But I don't know if people can get into that because most have never heard of the buildings (even though the are significant and interesting historically). My understanding of a hook is that it's to try to snag people and make them want to learn more about a subject. So it seems to me that lots of places are historic and listed on the register, but a building where something really significant happened (especially to many Jewish readers) would be a better hook. I've also tried hooks that are somewhat mysterious to lure people in, like not saying where something is if I think it will add curiosity because I think it's good if hooks don't just summarize an article, but that has caused objections too. So who knows. What would the Art of Negative Thinking suggest? ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:48, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Re:Mr. Burns
The Naming conventions for people (admittedly, it's not aimed towards fictional characters, but from what I can tell, that guideline is usually applied) say that a page name should not start with "doctor" or "Mister" or titles along those lines (it's why Nick Riviera and Julius Hibbert and Seymour Skinner go with their "real names" rather than their more well known names). Again, that guideline is for real people but I can't find anything specifically for characters. I don't really agree it, we should be able to go with their common name rather than using the characters lesser known "real" names for page titles (of course, using that logic, Waylon Smithers would be moved to "Smithers", Ned Flanders to "Flanders", etc.). -- Scorpion0422 19:04, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
- In most of those cases, the character's real name is either unknown or very obscure. I think the rule is that if their full name is used multiple times, then that should be the page name over "Mr. _____". But like I said above, I would support a move to Mr. Burns, it's just a redirect to that page anyway. -- Scorpion0422 00:24, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Skånes Djurpark
Wikiproject: Did you know? 12:00, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
MABF05.jpg
- How the image can not be deleted. --Francisco97 (talk) 23:15, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
- How the image cannot be deleted? --Francisco97 (talk) 23:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
- Can I uploaded another time? --Francisco97 (talk) 23:22, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
- OK, thanks ;) --Francisco97 (talk) 23:27, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
- Can I uploaded another time? --Francisco97 (talk) 23:22, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
- How the image cannot be deleted? --Francisco97 (talk) 23:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Gunilla Bergström
Materialscientist (talk) 06:00, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Couch gags
In case you didn't notice, there aren't any secondary sources in the couch gag article, either. THF (talk) 14:07, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
- True, there aren't any secondary sources in the couch gag article. The sources do exist, however, they just haven't been added to the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Simpsons couch gags. Theleftorium 14:10, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
WikiCup 2010 January newsletter
We are half way through round one of the WikiCup. We've had some shakeups regarding late entries, flag changes and early dropouts, but the competition is now established- there will be no more flag changes or new competitors. Congratulations to Sasata (submissions), our current leader, who, at the time of writing, has more listed points than Hunter Kahn (submissions) and TonyTheTiger (submissions) (second and third place respectively) combined. A special well done also goes to Fetchcomms (submissions)- his artcle Jewel Box (St. Louis, Missouri) was the first content to score points in the competition.
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Deleting my contributions
A few questions:
1. Are you an admin for wikipedia?
2. If not, then who are you to delete my contributions and tell me my sources are not reliable?
I'm sorry but this is REALLY irritating. How are you the authority of what's accurate and what isn't? Aren't you just another internet editor like the rest of us?
You deleted my cultural reference contributions on two Simpsons episode articles. A "First Blood" reference in "Separate Vocations" and a "Rocky III" reference in "Brother from the Same Planet". And, I DEMAND an explanation. What is a reliable source TO YOU??
I listed NUMEROUS sources for my contributions:
1. "Rocky III" reference in "Brother from the Same Planet":
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Brother_from_the_Same_Planet/References
http://www.snpp.com/episodes/9F12.html
http://en.allexperts.com/e/b/br/brother_from_the_same_planet.htm
If this many websites are in concensus, then why is it NOT credible?? Are you saying ALL these sources are false?? You don't even need to look for sources. You can just watch the episode "Brother from the Same Planet" and if you have watched "Rocky III", you'd KNOW it WAS a direct reference. Anyone could make the connection.
Please respond, I deserve an explanation for this act of censorship. I'm not spamming or vandalizing the article. I just want to contribute. User: edlitz36, e-mail: edlitz36@yahoo.com Edlitz36 (talk) 20:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Edlitz36 (talk • contribs) 20:11, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Article at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! decltype (talk) 09:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Incidentally, Meg Westergren is one of the most popular articles on sv.wiki. If you are looking for new articles to create, feel free to peruse User:Decltype/Missing. decltype (talk) 09:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Cool, I didn't know that. I'll try to make some of those link blue. :) I responded at the DYK page, btw. Theleftorium 14:59, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
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What is dopuppföljning? Also is Månadens or Du Levande a film with Roy Andersson (it won three Guldbagges whatever those are...). Is it any good? ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:36, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- Hi. :) I think dopuppföljning is basically a party of some sort that is celebrated on the one-year anniversary of a child's baptism. I don't think it's very common in Sweden.
- Du levande (You, the Living) is a film by Andersson. It's pretty good, especially the soundtrack. The Guldbagge Awards is essentially the Swedish equivalent of the Academy Awards. Theleftorium 15:38, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- It's playing at the Svenske Kirke (sp?), but I watched some clips and I'm not sure I can handle it. :) You guys are like the Czechs of Northern Europe. Very intellectual and artsy! ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:30, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Celine... you told her that?
Hey left, what's happenin'? Man, I can't believe I haven't talked to you since last year. Good times, those times. :) I've been good, you know, doing well here, and miraculously doing good in school. How 'bout you, what have you been up to? Aw, my "secret stach". ;) Thanks, I appreciate that comment... a lot. I'm "cleaning" the article, so that I can create it... soon. Like old times. P.S. I did learn from a good teacher. :P -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 21:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome, you deserve the "teacher" bit. Well, Wikipedia's been there for all of us. I totally get why it's stealing your time. It does that to me, too. But, I love it... and I don't care who knows it. :) So, how busy are you? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 21:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, that sucks. Also, it's no wonder why I haven't seen you as the "leader" in the Cup. Hunter is one of them. I thought maybe you didn't sign-up. Man. It also explains why I haven't seen you at GAN, either. I was gonna ask you if could do a "look-over" in "Gypsies, Tramps and Weed", but I saw the "busy in real life" template, so I didn't "go there". Now everything makes sense. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:09, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
- ...I wouldn't want to add more to your "busy-ness". -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, that sucks. Also, it's no wonder why I haven't seen you as the "leader" in the Cup. Hunter is one of them. I thought maybe you didn't sign-up. Man. It also explains why I haven't seen you at GAN, either. I was gonna ask you if could do a "look-over" in "Gypsies, Tramps and Weed", but I saw the "busy in real life" template, so I didn't "go there". Now everything makes sense. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:09, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
CP
Hi. :) Just came upon your listing for Northern Mindanao State Institute of Science and Technology at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2010 January 29. I just wanted to remind you that CP is not for drawing immediate attention to copyright problems, because generally those are not looked at for seven days after listing. If you're just trying to draw attention to a potential problem, WT:CP may be more effective. But it is helpful either way if you tag the article so that other contributors can help resolve the question or address the problem. I'm sure you know that there's a whole load of templates that can be used. They're collected for convenience at the copyclean resources page. With one like this, if for some reason you don't think that {{copyvio}} applies, you might consider {{copypaste}}. Anyway, I'm sitting down to investigate this one now (primarily by searching to see if they copied from us or the other way around), but just wanted to suggest this for the future.
Hope things are going well with you. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:30, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I should have blanked the article. I think I was too busy to investigate the article that day and just listed it at WP:CP so it wouldn't be forgotten. I hope things are going well with you too. My week hasn't exactly been the best IRL. :/ Theleftorium 18:11, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry. :( I hope that your next one is better. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:27, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey
what did i do wrong? --TruthTellerguy1978 (talk) 21:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Whats wrong with asking if Jimmy wears a diaper? I am just curious --TruthTellerguy1978 (talk) 21:18, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Sock
Do you have any experience with WP:SOCK reports? CTJF83 chat 21:30, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- I know a bit about how the process works, but I have no actual experience in dealing with socks. Why? Theleftorium 21:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- I think I might have a case, can you IRC? CTJF83 chat 21:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't have time now, sorry. I need to get some sleep. Theleftorium 21:38, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, have a good night. CTJF83 chat 21:39, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't have time now, sorry. I need to get some sleep. Theleftorium 21:38, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- I think I might have a case, can you IRC? CTJF83 chat 21:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Midwest Technical Institute
Thank you for noticing that Midwest Technical Institute was a copyvio. I rewrote the article and removed your speedy tag because I thought the subject might be notable, and I was able to add references to it. Often the best way to deal with a copyvio article about a potentially notable subject is to stub the article so that it is no longer a copyvio and then expand it with references from reliable sources - or, alternatively, to leave it as a stub with any problems such as unreferenced tagged so that someone with more time can expand it. - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for rewriting it. I've seen you work on several copyvios before and I really appreciate it. :) I actually prefer to rewrite articles too (I've rewritten several copyvios and even gotten some of them to DYK status). However, Wikipedia's copyright backlog is huge at the moment and unfortunately sometimes there's not enough time to spend on rewriting every article. Cheers, Theleftorium 14:47, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
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- Thanks so much Arctic Night. :) Theleftorium 16:42, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
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- Good job! Thanks for writing up that article. It made me laugh a lot reminiscing and discussing it. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:23, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- No, thank you for bringing the film to my attention. ;) Theleftorium 20:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
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Simpsons
Please take a look at the recent edits to Lisa the Drama Queen, thank you, CTJF83 chat 19:18, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- I reverted the edits. Theleftorium 19:21, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you, due to recent unfortunate events I have to watch myself. CTJF83 chat 19:25, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- So, what's going on? Are we leaving that reference in, or should I do a 3RR report. CTJF83 chat 22:24, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- We're not going to leave them in. I have asked the user to revert their edits. If he/she choses not to, I'll revert when the 24 hours are up. Theleftorium 15:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- So, what's going on? Are we leaving that reference in, or should I do a 3RR report. CTJF83 chat 22:24, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you, due to recent unfortunate events I have to watch myself. CTJF83 chat 19:25, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I believe I tagged it wrong. either way, there is redundant information in the intro that can be paired down or reworded. --Hourick (talk) 18:52, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- Overall, it's a very well written article, but I felt Deja Vu when as I got further into it. That's usually a sign that it needs some minor editing. I figured a fan would be better at it than I, which is why I tagged it. --Hourick (talk) 18:58, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Olof Strömstierna
I nominated this article at Template talk:Did you know. It will be interesting to see if a completely rewritten version like this one will qualify as a new article. --Hegvald (talk) 12:22, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
A warm welcome
I see you are a member of the article rescue squadron also. So many members now, I don't know everyone. okalie dokalie. Looking forward to getting to know you.
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- Thanks. Same to you. :) Theleftorium 19:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
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DYK for Swenske songer eller wisor 1536
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Re: Barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar, man! That was unexpected, but much appreciated! I've enjoyed the stuff I've been doing, as well crossing paths on occasion with the excellent work you do as well. Keep it up! — Hunter Kahn 15:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
WP:COPYVIO on TV Show episode summaries
Hello! I'm sorry to bother you, but I have seen you do a lot of work on removing copyrighted material from episode summary lists. As a newbie, I have also tried to do this, but it seems to be a losing battle. I recently removed summaries copied from ABC Family press releases on List of Greek episodes, just to find them replaced with new summaries from TV.com. (I only checked a few so far.) My question: Should these be removed too? Are there any sites at all where episode summaries CAN be copied? Another question, not directly related to this...how do you know if the summary was copied into wikipedia, or was copied from wikipedia? Is there a way to tell? Sorry for the questions. I'd appreciate any help/info/suggestions you can provide. Thanks. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 21:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
- Hi! You're not bothering at all. I'm glad you've decided to help out with copyright issues. :) Yes, summaries from TV.com should be removed because they are copyrighted. All websites that are released under the CC-By-SA license (all Wikia sites, for example) can copied from, as long as attribution is provided (either in an edit summary or by using one of the attribution templates). Knowing if the summary appeared on Wikipedia first can be tricky. Copied content is usually not wikified (no wikilinks, etc.) so that could be a sign. You could also use archive.org, and if you're unsure you could ask for a second opinion at WT:CP. I hope that helps. Theleftorium 21:23, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thank for your response and your suggestions. It is very much appreciated. I didn't know about archive.org. I'm always learning here! Now, back to work on those summaries.... --Logical Fuzz (talk) 21:44, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Al Jean
I don't know if the article used to mention this, but Jean is married to fellow Simpsons writer Stephanie Gillis. Unfortunately, I've searched for sources that say this, and haven't found much. One that I found a while back mentions that Jean's wife is named Stephanie, but nothing else. It is mentioned in Ortved's book, but it doesn't give any details (ie. When they were married). -- Scorpion0422 23:36, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks. I haven't read the whole book yet so I didn't know. I'll take a look tomorrow. Theleftorium 23:38, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
South Park Season 1 FT
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Request
Dear colleague, please sum up the discussion which You had started. I rely on your unhurried investigation of this argument and further reasonable decision. Thank You very much for your time. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 06:24, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't really know what you want me to do. It's obvious that the information doesn't fit in Themes in Avatar. User:Betty Logan gave you some good advice here. Theleftorium 09:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I want your decision: What obstacle prevents me from posting this information in Avatar Critical reception and why it was deleted 3 times on end (+4 in next article). You warned me, so it's up to You, to decide who was wrong. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 13:43, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Why should I decide who is wrong? You should be discussing this with the people who reverted you, not me. Theleftorium 13:52, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- But they does not discuss it. That's why I insist on competent decision. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 14:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- They do discuss it. Cinosaur opened up a thread at Talk:Themes_in_Avatar#Russian_broadcast. Theleftorium 14:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- They DID. Please, read the entire discussion. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 14:41, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I'm not following you. User:Ssilvers has added a mention of Noon Universe now (see Talk:Avatar_(2009_film)#Russian_broadcast). Theleftorium 15:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- They DID. Please, read the entire discussion. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 14:41, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- They do discuss it. Cinosaur opened up a thread at Talk:Themes_in_Avatar#Russian_broadcast. Theleftorium 14:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- But they does not discuss it. That's why I insist on competent decision. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 14:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Why should I decide who is wrong? You should be discussing this with the people who reverted you, not me. Theleftorium 13:52, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I want your decision: What obstacle prevents me from posting this information in Avatar Critical reception and why it was deleted 3 times on end (+4 in next article). You warned me, so it's up to You, to decide who was wrong. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 13:43, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
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Couple of concerns
(1) I was wondering if there was an accidental "catch all" copyvio tag on most of Keith Cieplicki. I'll be the first to admit parts of the article are violating copyright law, but I did re-word a lot of it before putting it on. There are parts that I feel should stay, which at present are blanked from the copyvio notice:
- The entire Playing Career section except "He was the Burlington Free Press Player of the Year his senior season and was recently named to the Barre Times Argus "Dream Dozen," which honored the 12 greatest Vermont boys and girls basketball players since 1960."
- In the Syracuse University section under Coaching Career, I think that whole section should stay except "While with the Orangewomen he posted a 28-55 overall record in four seasons.[8] His most successful campaign came in 2004-05 when he guided the Orange to a 13-16 overall mark and the team’s first Big East Tournament victory since 2002 with a 65-58 triumph against Georgetown."
- The entire Controversy section, which if one were to read what is on the Wikipedia page versus what is in the article used as a reference, it is quite noticeably different (similarly structured but definitely re-worded).
- And I'm just wondering where the violation was for Coaching career:University of Vermont. I'm not accusing you of anything, I just couldn't find the article that that section was allegedly copied from. If you can provide the link (again, not accusing) I'd be fine with the tag as is.
(2) The second concern I have is regarding Henry C. Wolf Law Library. Neither one of you have reviewed it yet, but given the article's length and whatnot, I fear that there might be a stray sentence or two that are the same. I wanted to point this article specifically out to you as a preemptive concern that it will be wrongfully tagged, in entirety no less, as a copyright violation. It's not (so far as I am aware). When I created that article a year or two ago, I remember using the law library's website as my reference, but I spent literally 3 or 4 hours re-wording and re-writing it. I even made the note in the article itself (at the top of the history section) that it was "adapted and abridged" from the website, proving that it wasn't copied/pasted. I just don't want to see all those hours of agonizing work blanked in one fell swoop because it appears as if it is a copyright violation. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:53, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Don't worry. The reviewing admin will notice which parts are copied and which are not. Since the copyvio template can't just blank a few sentences, we have to blank it all. Regards, Theleftorium 21:59, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Kevin Kiesel
I am disputing another copyvio tag. In Kevin Kiesel, the paragraphs titled "Albright" and "Fairfield" are correctly blanked, but "Assistant coach" and "Millersville" are uniquely written and have been wrongly blanked. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:28, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I have left a note about processes, including why the bulk of the article is blanked, at his talk page. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I replied exactly at the same time above. :) Theleftorium 22:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- You should probably read my note there. :) The reviewing admin probably won't look for exact sentence matches; CCIs are handled differently than SCV and CP matters. And, by the way, I really appreciate your work on this one. The backlog is getting a bit out of hand! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:05, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm... I think I will have to be a bit more specific with the template then. What do you do if the copyvio appears at the beginning and at the end of the article, but not in the middle? Theleftorium 22:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- It depends on who created the article. If it isn't the CCI contributor, you can simply remove it and place {{cclean}} at the article's talk. You can also revert back to the last version before the subject's contributions. If it's foundational, you can tag it {{copyvio}}, since the entire article is likely to be a derivative work. (Even if foundational, if it isn't extensive, you can clean it on the spot.)
- Hmm... I think I will have to be a bit more specific with the template then. What do you do if the copyvio appears at the beginning and at the end of the article, but not in the middle? Theleftorium 22:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- You should probably read my note there. :) The reviewing admin probably won't look for exact sentence matches; CCIs are handled differently than SCV and CP matters. And, by the way, I really appreciate your work on this one. The backlog is getting a bit out of hand! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:05, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I replied exactly at the same time above. :) Theleftorium 22:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I only place the {{subst:copyvio}} in CCIs if the violation is foundational or if it is such a contentious or popular article that it may have regular contributors willing to help salvage content. Otherwise, I remove it immediately. While with SCV and CP, we do not start with a presumption of infringement, with CCIs past history is sufficient evidence. The article reviews are a courtesy to other contributors and the project, since even though policy supports it we don't want to lose content that we don't have to.
- We have some special templates we use in CCI cleanup. For instance, if you can't find the source but you have good reason to believe there is infringement (if it matches a pattern, say with the Doctor Who plot copier), you remove the text presumptively and place {{subst:CCI}} at the article talk. If the contributor created the article and you tag it for presumptive deletion (for the same reason), you use {{subst:CCId}}. For between cases, I have a template I use myself for when I've reverted after verifying some infringement but noting that some text removed may be clean: User:Moonriddengirl/CCIr. --22:37, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Theleftorium 22:43, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- We have some special templates we use in CCI cleanup. For instance, if you can't find the source but you have good reason to believe there is infringement (if it matches a pattern, say with the Doctor Who plot copier), you remove the text presumptively and place {{subst:CCI}} at the article talk. If the contributor created the article and you tag it for presumptive deletion (for the same reason), you use {{subst:CCId}}. For between cases, I have a template I use myself for when I've reverted after verifying some infringement but noting that some text removed may be clean: User:Moonriddengirl/CCIr. --22:37, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Episode FA
Do you want to work on getting an article up to FA with me? I'm tired of not having an FA! LOL, I shoulda started off with something easier than a city. CTJF83 chat 05:48, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, you can help out with Bart Gets Hit By A Car. I've been kinda busy so I haven't had time to work on it. :P Theleftorium 10:48, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well I was thinking of getting a GA up to FA...but I can do that too. CTJF83 chat 10:51, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Tony Alamo
Regarding your claim that the Alamo comment was a copy vio, I did a google search last night and got this result there I found a few citations with the same comment, the citation Flying added was no wayback and as the comment is so small and was to be found at multiple locations as far as copyright violation goes I saw it as non existent anf being unable to find the citation flying added to support it, I felt it was at multiple locations and not a clear violation attributable to any single source, the exact same comment is at CBS news here, 21st and at the new york times here and at the location you say is the copyright owner usa today here and here as the exact comment was so simple and at multiple major locations I felt it not actually a violation and not attributable to anyone, this opinion was also compounded by the fact that she had added a citation that is now unavailable and why add a citation about the incident when you have supposedly copied the tiny comment from another location, I feel that you may well be wrong in your assumption as regards this claim of copyright violation, please let me know how you feel about this as I wanted to go over some more today but if your of the opinion that I left something that was a violation I will leave it to others, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 16:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- The reason that the sentence appears in so many sources is that it comes from an Associated Press article (which is copyrighted). Sure, two copied sentences is not really a serious copyright violation, but I think it's best to be avoided. Your help at the CCI is greatly appreciated so please don't stop because of this. :) Theleftorium 17:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, in future when I find some small issue like that I will just give it a small write to make sure, I am glad you brought that up as it helps me learn the level of care to take. Off2riorob (talk) 17:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
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I have some time to listen to a DVD commentary today, and I was wondering if you would mind if I added a production section for this article. Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment already has a production section (it just needs reception and more sources), so BGHbaC is the only one from the season 2 eps that still needs DVD information. That way, we can finally get that pesky second season finished. -- Scorpion0422 18:21, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
- I don't mind at all. Last week was a bit busier for me than I had expected. As for "Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment", Cirt said he would finish the article when I asked him in January. You might want to drop a note on his talk. :) Theleftorium 19:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Johan Gustaf Sandberg
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DYK for Al Jean
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Thanks for tagging this for speedy deletion, it was indeed a straight cut&paste copyvio. However it appears to be a notable book, so I have completely rewritten the article, using the author's page (which was what was copied) to craft a much shorter plot summery, and then added several critical comments. I don't think three is any remaining copyright issue, but since I technically declined your tag, I am dropping you this courtesy note. DES (talk) 01:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. Thank you for the rewrite. :) I'd be good if you could remove the copyvio from the history, though. Theleftorium 11:35, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Temp pages
Hey. Hold on. I am doing the best I can. Why do the temp pages have to be deleted. They are in my userspace where I can work on them and improve them before they go back to the mainspace. Whoa!! Please do not start deleting all the temp pages. That is not fair. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 23:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did not understand your point(s) in that last comment. Could you try again. Sorry. Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 23:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Henrik (Ned Flanders) -- kunde du behag hjälpa mig så fakta ät de här siden blandar inte utplånat. Tack själv. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 23:59, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
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- I'm going to have to start thinking creatively. :) I can only give you so many of these. Truly, thank you, and I am very impressed. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! I think it was my turn to give you a barnstar, though. :-) Theleftorium 20:49, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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What is the projects thoughts on using user votes as part of the reception? [6] Or is it better we just stick with professional reviews. CTJF83 chat 20:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- We should definitely only use professional reviews. Theleftorium 20:15, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, also Treehouse of Horror II looks GA ready, and it appears User:ImperatorExercitus has disappeared, perahps one of us should submit it for him to further the drive. CTJF83 chat 20:56, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- That article needs a lot more work. I'll work on it once we're done with s2. Theleftorium 20:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, you 2 look like your doing fine on Bart Gets Hit by a Car too, perhaps the image should be moved to the right to not break up the heading from the text below? CTJF83 chat 21:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah. I think it should be enlarged too. Theleftorium 21:01, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, you 2 look like your doing fine on Bart Gets Hit by a Car too, perhaps the image should be moved to the right to not break up the heading from the text below? CTJF83 chat 21:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- That article needs a lot more work. I'll work on it once we're done with s2. Theleftorium 20:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, also Treehouse of Horror II looks GA ready, and it appears User:ImperatorExercitus has disappeared, perahps one of us should submit it for him to further the drive. CTJF83 chat 20:56, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Is Neighborhoods of Davenport, Iowa anywhere near FL? CTJF83 chat 21:33, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Shouldn't that be a GA or an FA? Anyway, it needs more inline sources. Theleftorium 21:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Well on the GA review the reviewer thought it should be an FL, cause it "is essentially a list". Since I have no FL experience, and you have lots, do you think it should be a GA then and not an FL? CTJF83 chat 21:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Try asking Scorpion. :) Theleftorium 21:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Well on the GA review the reviewer thought it should be an FL, cause it "is essentially a list". Since I have no FL experience, and you have lots, do you think it should be a GA then and not an FL? CTJF83 chat 21:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Shouldn't that be a GA or an FA? Anyway, it needs more inline sources. Theleftorium 21:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I think it looks pretty good. Why is "Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(Annoyed Grunt)cious" used as the example of an episode he produced in seasons 8-9? Why not mention "Lisa's Sax", which was the first episode he wrote without Reiss? -- Scorpion0422 18:05, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Hey Left, do you want some help with your 3 remaining season 3 episodes? I'd be glad to assist you. CTJF83 chat 08:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- Sure. I'm too busy to work on them right now. Theleftorium 15:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Re: Dunst
Thanks, I appreciate that comment. Will I see any of your articles on there? Though, don't expect to see any more of my actor FA's on the Main Page. OMG, I never knew that so much vandalism occurs when the article is featured there. Never again. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- That's a great article, and good Lisa episode. I was going to support it, when it was at FAC, but I didn't get the chance. Oh well. Yeah, if you see the article's history, a lot when on. I'm just grateful it's protected from IP's... at the moment. So, are you still busy? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 22:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, that still sucks. You know, I saw your name at GAN, and I thought just maybe that you'd return full-time. Well, if you're not in writing mood, what you up to here? P.S. I don't mean it like in a "bad way", just wondering what you up to, you know. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, that's cool, your helping the community out with that, that's not bad. :) If you do, I'll be happy to give you a review, been meaning to review some articles for a while, since I got a couple over there. I'm up to the usual, you know, working on random stuff (episodes, wrestling, actors, etc.), and for a second time, have Brad Pitt at FAC. I've been doing kind of good... kind of, but you're doing better than me. :) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 18:10, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, drop me a note when you've nominated the article, just repayin' my mentor for all he did for me. ;) Thanks, I appreciate that. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 18:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, that's cool, your helping the community out with that, that's not bad. :) If you do, I'll be happy to give you a review, been meaning to review some articles for a while, since I got a couple over there. I'm up to the usual, you know, working on random stuff (episodes, wrestling, actors, etc.), and for a second time, have Brad Pitt at FAC. I've been doing kind of good... kind of, but you're doing better than me. :) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 18:10, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, that still sucks. You know, I saw your name at GAN, and I thought just maybe that you'd return full-time. Well, if you're not in writing mood, what you up to here? P.S. I don't mean it like in a "bad way", just wondering what you up to, you know. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Bacon WikiCup 2010 Award
Bacon WikiCup 2010 - Participant Medal | ||
Because of your work and dedication to expanding bacon-related content during the Bacon Challenge 2010, you have been awarded the Bacon WikiCup 2010 Particpant Medal for partipcating in the Bacon WikiCup 2010 with a final score of 15, earning yourself tenth place. Congratulations, and thank you for your great work! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC) |
- Yay, thanks! :) Theleftorium 11:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if you're still working on the article, but the appearance of Nicolas Sarkozy & Carla Bruni in the episode received a bit of coverage in the media, so that could be incorporated. [7] You wouldn't be able to add this, but now the media is reporting that Bruni had an extramarital affair, which is interesting because in the episode, her having an affair with Carl is a major plot point. -- Scorpion0422 03:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Shahidul Islam
- Regrettably, I cannot perform the Shahidul Islam histmerge. See Talk:Shahidul Islam#Edit history. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:58, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
- I added a note in the history, per WP:CWW, to fix the issue. Theleftorium 12:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Behind the Laughter
Good day, filthy Swede :) Long time no talk. I know you're involved with the Simpsons articles on here so thought this was the best place to mention it - the Behind the Laughter article is a bit of a nightmare to read, none of the writers nor the director are listed. I was wondering if this was intentional or if it can go ahead and be added. PS: unrelated, but PM me on MT2 with your msn :) IvanP91 —Preceding undated comment added 07:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC).
More on WP:COPYVIO on TV series episode lists
Hi, I'm back with another question. I was starting to remove almost all the episode summaries from List of Mercy episodes because they were direct copies of text at TV.com. Some of these have blatant spelling or punctuation errors, making it clear they come from the same source. My question: TV.com is editable by anyone who signs up. They can write their own summaries. So how do I know they weren't copied from Wikipedia, instead of the reverse? Is there any sort of "rule" that any info contributed to those sites is copyrighted by the site (becomes their property) and can't be reused? But then I'm back to which came first. Anyways, I didn't delete them after all. I'd appreciate your insight. Sorry to bother you again. Thanks. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 03:23, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hi again! :) Wikipedia:Spotting possible copyright violations has some good advice for spotting copyvios (especially the "Indicative, but by no means conclusive signs" part). I don't think there is a way to tell where to content came from originally, other than asking the contributor who added the content. TV.com's Terms of Use might contain the answer to your final question, but that is too complex for me. I'll ask an experienced editor about it. Theleftorium 15:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I'm sure I don't qualify as a more experienced editor, but the terms do say "All materials published on our sites ... are protected by our copyrights" and later "You hereby grant us ... irrevocable, royalty-free, nonexclusive, sublicensable license to use, reproduce, create derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display, transfer, transmit, distribute, and publish Your Content" (emphasis added). I'm afraid that doesn't clear it up because of the non-exclusive part, because if it was from Wikipedia in the first place (or the same person wrote it) then (as far as I know) it's still fine. So it's still a chicken/egg problem. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for spotting that! :) Logical Fuzz, I think the best solution would be to ask the contributors if they wrote the content or got it from TV.com. Theleftorium 16:13, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Yes, and a chicken/egg problem it remains. :/ Generally, if the material is not archived, I look for context clues. Does the person who added it have a history of this, for instance? Were all of the summaries that are duplicated on TV.com put on Wikipedia at the same time? Neither of those are definitive, but can help you judge. One of the biggest clues I look for are changes. I scroll forward from the edit where the content appeared to the first change and compare it to the external site. Does the change make it more like or less like the source? This is no help, obviously, if they do not change. :) Let me go take a look at the specific list and see if any of my tricks will make the situation more clear. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:15, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I'm sure I don't qualify as a more experienced editor, but the terms do say "All materials published on our sites ... are protected by our copyrights" and later "You hereby grant us ... irrevocable, royalty-free, nonexclusive, sublicensable license to use, reproduce, create derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display, transfer, transmit, distribute, and publish Your Content" (emphasis added). I'm afraid that doesn't clear it up because of the non-exclusive part, because if it was from Wikipedia in the first place (or the same person wrote it) then (as far as I know) it's still fine. So it's still a chicken/egg problem. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
No archives. Rats. Looking at the latest episode, I seize on the words "anorexic disorder" and search the history to see when it first showed up. Right here. This series of edits is a strong indication of infringement. It was all added by one person during roughly one time frame. The content did not change, so that's no help. But if these summaries had been added over weeks or months, they would more likely have evolved naturally. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:23, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you all for your comments, and thanks to Theleftorium for the link for spotting possible violations. I didn't mean to make this question any additional work for anyone. Sorry, Theleftorium--to me you are an experienced editor! ;) ETA: Funny thing, Moonriddengirl, you found that out in a much better (and quicker) manner than I did. Very good catch. Thank you all. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 16:26, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- TheLeftorium is a very experienced editor. :D Just to be clear, even if they did write it, we need them to verify that, which is difficult with sites like tv.com. If content is previously published elsewhere we can't import it under our copyright policy and Terms of Use unless it is verified to be compatible. That makes it challenging for authors to contribute content both to us and sites like that or IMDb. They can't easily verify that, by putting up a notice at the site. (And I do this practically all day every day, so I've gotten a bit efficient at it; you can, too, if you want to, Logical Fuzz. WP:COPYCLEAN needs you! ;D) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, PS, I did notice you've been doing a good job of watching out for copyvios there. Appreciated! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I thought I was doing a good job, but I missed the re-add. I could have sworn I'd stripped that page already. Silly me...I'm always learning. Thanks, though. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 19:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, PS, I did notice you've been doing a good job of watching out for copyvios there. Appreciated! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- TheLeftorium is a very experienced editor. :D Just to be clear, even if they did write it, we need them to verify that, which is difficult with sites like tv.com. If content is previously published elsewhere we can't import it under our copyright policy and Terms of Use unless it is verified to be compatible. That makes it challenging for authors to contribute content both to us and sites like that or IMDb. They can't easily verify that, by putting up a notice at the site. (And I do this practically all day every day, so I've gotten a bit efficient at it; you can, too, if you want to, Logical Fuzz. WP:COPYCLEAN needs you! ;D) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Heh, thanks Logical Fuzz! The evidence Moonriddengirl found is probably enough to remove the summaries from the article. Hopefully this resolved your questions. :) Theleftorium 17:08, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Will do, thanks a bunch.--Logical Fuzz (talk) 19:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Adminship
Hi! I was wondering, would you be interested in running for adminship? I'd be happy to nominate you or, if you prefer a more high-profile nominator, simply offer my strong support. As you know, more admins are needed on copyright issues and I think you'd be a great candidate. (If you're considering declining, please stare at the kitty for at least 5 minutes before responding.) Regards, Jafeluv (talk) 14:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Jafeluv, thank you for the offer. :) Two other great editors have already offered to nominate me (Ceranthor and Moonriddengirl) so I think they're before you in the line. (I'm very grateful for your support, though!) I've told them that I'd like to wait a little longer with the RfA until I'm not too busy with school. I have a holiday between March 27 and April 4, so I might be able to squeeze it in there if Ceranthor and Moonriddengirl are available. Cheers! Theleftorium 15:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, you had someone lined up already :) I'll look forward to supporting you, then. Jafeluv (talk) 15:49, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- Dear me, TL! I was passing by to catch up on some discussions, noticed this and can only say, "Yes, finally." I expected this six months ago. — CactusWriter | needles 17:52, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hi CactusWriter, long time no see! If everything goes as planned, the RfA will be up sometime next weekend. I'm happy to have your support! :) Theleftorium 17:56, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- Dear me, TL! I was passing by to catch up on some discussions, noticed this and can only say, "Yes, finally." I expected this six months ago. — CactusWriter | needles 17:52, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, you had someone lined up already :) I'll look forward to supporting you, then. Jafeluv (talk) 15:49, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
As you've requested, I've explained my use of that template on Talk:Charlie Bit My Finger#Overdetailed. -- Marawe (talk) 19:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- Replied there. Theleftorium 19:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
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So, Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Starsking? Finished. Good job! :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- o/\o Thanks for taking a look at the remaining ones. They were a bit too difficult for me. :) By the way, have you got a response from Ceranthor? If not you may want to notify him on his talk page. Theleftorium 14:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
- We now say bye bye to Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Zencv. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:58, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
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We're half way through round two, and everything is running smoothly. Hunter Kahn (submissions) leads overall with 650 points this round, and heads pool B. TonyTheTiger (submissions) currently leads pool C, dubbed the "Group of Death", which has a only a single contestant yet to score this round (the fewest of any group), as well five contestants over 100 points (the most). With a month still to go, as well as 16 wildcard places, everything is still to play for. Anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.
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