User talk:Thederekjohnson

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ed Rush (speaker) (June 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Legacypac was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Restoration of Draft:True Tamplin

Hi Thederekjohnson. I have returned this to draftspace as it does not establish notability against WP:ACTOR or WP:AUTHOR (or WP:NFOOTY, or really WP:NCOLLATH). Would you please read WP:COI and WP:PAID before editing further and make any necessary declarations if applicable. For WP:AUTHOR to apply, there would need to be significant critical coverage of his works in independent reliable sources. Some of the guidelines at WP:CORP are broadly applicable to public speakers (particularly with respect to sourcing). If you move it back to mainspace without showing notability, it'll be heading to Articles for deletion. The same applies to Draft:Ed Rush (author). ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 01:21, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ed Rush (author) (August 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Robert McClenon were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Robert McClenon (talk) 02:06, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

A page you started (True Tamplin) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating True Tamplin, Thederekjohnson!

Wikipedia editor Doomsdayer520 just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Thanks for your new article on True Tamplin, but note that some other editors have pointed out problems with the article that could lead to significant downsizing or even deletion by the community. The article needs less promotion and much more information (if any) on Tamplin getting noticed by independent media sources.

To reply, leave a comment on Doomsdayer520's talk page.

Learn more about page curation.

---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:52, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Conflict of interest warning

Hi. I have reviewed your contributions to True Tamplin article and would like to warn you about a potential conflict of interest related to it. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
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• avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID). Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted.

I've reported your edits to the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard. Please be prepared to explain your edits. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 19:07, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of True Tamplin for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article True Tamplin is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/True Tamplin until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Bbarmadillo (talk) 06:08, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Your comments at WP:COIN

Thank you for clarifying the question around a potential WP:COI. Just a brief response, but you said that "the Wikipedia community, by and large, do not help nor welcome new contributors attempting to join the community by making quality edits and pages."

• The problem appears to be that you have not taken the time to understand what makes edits and pages quality. Wikipedia has clear notability guidelines that should be followed. We also have an process by which you can submit a draft for review and receive feedback before it is published in the main encyclopedia which is a much better process for a new editor to use, whereas you circumvented this by moving the True Tamplin article yourself without waiting for review.
• On sources, you said you had included "well-cited content" but as the edit summaries state, user-generated content like IMDb is not an acceptable source; and the LA Times articles were about Tamplin's school sporting achievements, which do not in any way support his notability as an author or actor.
• Wikipedia also works by consensus, so editors are expected to work with one another, particularly by using talk pages to interact. You will find that people are willing to work with you here, but not if you don't engage or appear to be listening to the policies they are pointing you to by responding here on your talk page or on an article talk page.
• I would encourage you not to give up, but to slow down, make sure you have read and understood the policies you have been pointed to, ask questions and use talk pages to engage with other editors, and stick with the review process of AFC for the other draft you have written and hopefully that will be a different experience. People have given you feedback on potential problems with it, so now it is over you to work on improving it.

Cheers, Melcous (talk) 23:12, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Ed Rush (author)

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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 11:42, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Adoption

On a different, lighter note, you asked for adoption. I can adopt you if you would like, but it seems like you'd just like some advice for starters. To help me help you, can you answer a few questions?

1. What existing pages would you like to edit?
2. What new pages would you like to create?
3. Why did you decide to start editing?

Smooth sailing, Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 04:46, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Ahoy

Hello @CaptainEek: It's great to hear back from you. Hope the weekend treated you well. You are accurate in your inclination to think that I am not sure about adoption at this stage, but certainly out to seek some advice in my stage of learning. So let me get on to answering your questions.

1. I am currently looking to eventually edit the page for an Orange County based Philanthropist that I know of, but do not know personally. I have reason to believe that his wiki is covered in a cruel, unfair manner and truly paints a less that accurate photo of them. If it is necessary for me to share the name, I will do so.
2. That is a great question. I would start with creating a page for an individual that is a traveling public speaker that lacks a wiki page. Also, a musician that plays within a popular American pop band that also lacks his own page. This is just the start. I haven't yet given my imagination full bandwidth at all opportunities that I could pursue.
3. A friend of mine encouraged me to learn the ways of Wikipedia and understand how the wealth of knowledge on this platform is aggregated, maintained and monitored. I think that if I can effectively learn to create and edit pages that real people get to interact with and learn from, it will not be a skillset gone to waste.

I do hope these suffice as proper responses to your original questions. Thank you for giving me the pedestal to voice my heart behind my endeavor.

// On a sidenote, how should one handle the situation that unfolded above? I have gone ahead and removed that users contribution to my Talk page, but I was curious to see what standard and best practices might be in those instances? Thederekjohnson (talk) 04:16, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Thederekjohnson, Then I'm happy to offer some advice.

1. If you could link the page, that would help. I can try to point you in the right direction on how to cleanup the article.

2. Starting pages from scratch is the hardest thing to do on Wikipedia. It all comes down to notability. As a baseline, an article ought meet the general notability guideline, which says that subjects require significant coverage in multiple reliable and independent sources. It is this step that is the hardest, and that the most people mess up. There are specific notability criteria for certain categories, such as for people, for academics, for places, etc. If sources do not exist, a subject is just not notable. Before creating a new page, always make sure it doesn't already exist :)

3. We're glad to have you here! Editing Wikipedia certainly teaches you how to better understand what is reliable on the internet, and is also very useful to the world at large.

If you ever have questions, you can drop them on my talk page, or ask at the friendly Teahouse.

In terms of the situation above, that's a most unusual case. Since its your talkpage, you are free to remove comments. In this case, me and some other experienced editors tried to counsel the editor that posted that, but they would not listen, and they ended up blocked. Unfortunately, some editors are more interested in vandalism and causing trouble than they are in contributing, but we have systems in place to deal with that. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 05:49, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

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Hello again, @CaptainEek:

Thanks for your very thorough and informative response.

Of course. Here is the link to the page in question.

On that note of new pages and the question of Notability, do you say that creating pages from scratch is difficult in that way solely based on the notability factor or the sheer leg work to be done within the platform necessary to create the page?

Thanks! Thederekjohnson (talk) 04:10, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Thederekjohnson, In terms of improving Ahmonson's article: you may find some resistance to making changes, as it looks like a controversial page. Make sure that any change is well sourced with a reliable and independent citation. Explain every edit with a concise edit summary. And be willing to engage with editors who revert or disagree with you. When an editor undoes you, don't undo them right back. Instead, take to the article's talk page and discuss with the editor. Oftentimes there is a simple concern that can easily be fixed. If not, there are many forms of dispute resoloution available.

Notability is the biggest problem when making new articles. It goes hand in hand with having good sourcing. If you can find a notable topic, and good sources, any other issues that arise can easily be dealt with. Finding a good topic is harder than you'd think though. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 06:07, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

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@CaptainEek:,

Thank you, once again, for your insight and guidance.

I understand why there might be some resistance in any effort to make edits to this page that stick. I hope to gain substantial credibility to the topic of the personhood of this page by implementing information and assets that the current page lacks. Which leads me to a specific question I had for you:

In the process of uploading an image to Wikimedia Commons, what is the copyright classification for an image that was given directly from the author with explicit authorization to be used in cases such as these? Based up on my research with the Wikimedia protocols, I only see coverage for the usage of imagery that currently exists online and resides behind a copyright classification.

Let me know if you need me to further elaborate on my question.

Thanks, Thederekjohnson (talk) 03:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Thederekjohnson, To upload an image onto commons that is not yours, but you have permission to use, you need to have the copyright holder email Wikimedia (follow the steps here) the permission. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 03:36, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

// Hello @CaptainEek:,

I was able to follow your instructions from your previous post successfully! Many thanks.

Oddly enough, I was scouring a wiki article tonight and came across a reference that had a major error in the URL attached. Based upon the associate subject matter, the reference was meant to include a URL with a ".com" TLD but the error in this field resulted in a URL for a pornographic site.

I obviously went in and made the edit, made blatant note of it in the associated Talk page, but I was curious to see if there's any other protocol around this? I thought this instance might weigh heavier considering the product of this error.

Thanks, Thederekjohnson (talk) 04:49, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Thederekjohnson, If a page has an error, fixing it is good. If there is a spam URL, and it was clearly added to spam that page, you could leave a note on the adding user's talk page to ask why they added it. Otherwise, such URL's generally don't need to be called out in any particular way, just fixed or removed. Persistently added links can be added to the spam blacklist however. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 00:52, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

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@CaptainEek: I understand. I do not believe this URL was added with ill intent, but an honest mistake considering the fact the domain was the same, with the exception of the TLD. This helps. I was curious to see if there was any further protocol to be followed in this case.

Thank you once again!

Thederekjohnson (talk) 03:47, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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Hello @CaptainEek:,

I have a quick question for you: When looking to adjust a wiki article that has been spun with a negative bias, can you use entries within the "TALK" page as justification for making changes? My wording of that concept might be a tad unclear. For instance, if a page has been written with a particular bias and corresponding editor(s) of that page has indicated bias in contributions within the talk page, can that be grounds to remove and reframe the content of an article?

Interested to to find if there is any opportunity here... Thederekjohnson (talk) 03:40, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Thederekjohnson, If you mean undoing content based on percieved bias of editors? No. But, if editors have pointed out biased things, and come to a consensus that they're biased, you can go ahead and fix based off of that talk page conversation. If you mean to gauge how biased folks were in conversation, and undo their edits, thats a very bad idea. Seemingly biased editors may add neutral content, and seemingly neutral editors may add biased content. And remember, its about the content, not the contributor. If thats not what you meant, do clarify, as I might have misunderstood. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 04:01, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

//

@CaptainEek: I believe you certainly understood the question. Is there ever a proper instance, regardless of bias, to effectively remove the edits of another contributor?

Thederekjohnson (talk) 04:42, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Thederekjohnson, Well, edits should be removed if they are improper, regardless of contributor. If a contributor has been blocked, but most of their edits are good, then no reason to undo the good edits. If someone's edits were subpar, but not bad, then improve them. Thats the spirit of Wikipedia! "Bad" edits are gonna be things like vandalism, personal attacks, WP:BLP violations, that sort of nonsense. POV edits can be dealt with usually by amending the edit to read neutrally. Wikipedia isn't a battlefield or a zero sum game, everyone's edits add up to create something pretty cool. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 04:50, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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