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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
I am going to take the unusual step (I hope The Earwig doesn't mind) of closing a discussion thread on another user's talk page. The AN thread that this relates to has also been closed. Sven Manguard Wha? 06:02, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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Apparently you can do as you please as I guess you hosted the bot outside of Wikipedia policy and don't need a consensus to shut the bot down. Cool. I have no idea what is going on or what pissed you off, but if its your ball you can keep it.--Mark Miller (talk) 03:32, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi Mark. Please read the message I just posted on AN; you are mistaken. — Earwig talk 03:34, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Different words that mean the same thing. Yes, you operated the bot outside of Wikipedia Policy and consensus. As I understand it, as the "operator" that means you host it. If you didn't host it you would be allowed to pull the plug without a consensus, but would have to give another editor a chance to take it and host it without a disturbance or "disruption" of the project. Thanks for the disruption. Admin get away with so much it makes my head spin. --Mark Miller (talk) 03:41, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
@Earwig: Thank you for your support of the project.

@Mark Miller: Please do not abuse volunteers. You are mistaken on every level. Johnuniq (talk) 04:59, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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(edit conflict) I have no idea what happened but from what I am being told, you deserve a thank you for operating the bot against the very criticism of others and the need to adjust the bot to conform to the ever changing needs of new volunteers. So, thank you. Now, however. i think it is up to others to decide if it is worth even having a bot. In a way, what you did could be seen by some as a blessing. Many have been suggesting that DRN is too complicated and with this current situation I have to admit they may be right. If one person getting ticked off is enough to shut down a bot.....I am for a simpler Noticeboard. I am only pissed off that you just freaked out and stopped everything over some comment someone made. That is your right and i will certainly defend you over it, but i am also very critical of you for taking whatever was said so persoanlly that you just stopped everything knowing that it would be a tad disruptive. Again, thank you for operating the bot for so long. I, myself do not believe you should be asked to change your mind or come back. You decision should stand and be respected for whatever reason you decided to stop. At least you can say you tried.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:01, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
There seems to be a bit of confusion on your part. Stopping it was disruptive? No, keeping it running was disruptive. There were too many complaints regarding the bot and I don't have time due to other obligations to take on that maintenance burden. If a tool works some of the time but frequently causes problems that clearly affect people and the creator is unable to fix them, would you be upset if he decided to let go of it? You have come into this situation believing that I have an obligation to run this bot, but EarwigBot had a very minor role in the DRN process as a whole. If anything, the DRN volunteers had been asking for the bot to do less over the years, not more. — Earwig talk 05:10, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Now that I can understand. Yes, I have been with DRN long enough that i think I have even contacted you over an issue once. Can't remember what that was about. When i say this situation is disruptive, I mean it is disruptive to the project's ability to mediate disputes. but do we really need a bot to do that. the answer is a clear no. it only disrupts what Steven has put together with your help. Again...I have no idea what happened, just caught the tail end of the discussion. Every admin that has weighed in has been clear that bot operators do host the bost themselves. You ability to stop is no longer in question. Yes, I do question your professionalism, but your responses and level headiness in commenting back tyo me has been a good demonstration that you are a professional person. So I can only assume 9 seriously) that you have had to put up with a lot of changes and crap from editors. I doubt this will change my opinion about how bots work in a collaborative environment like Wikipedia...but that is just my opinion. IUt means very little. Trust me....no one is going to care what I think. Pretty sure that was just proven today. LOL! (why an I lauging? I suppose to lighten the moment) Have a good night.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:34, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Ya know...we started the movie "The Monuments Men" when I first discovered the discussion on DRN. And the credits are rolling now. I hope the movie sucked because I missed all of it. :-)--Mark Miller (talk) 05:36, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Johnuniq please do not make accusations. There is no abuse.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:02, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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Sorry for taking you to AN over the situation that you had a right to do. While I have trust issues, that is my problem not yours. You seem like a pretty level headed editor and I my not knowing how bots work is for me to learn and not for others to teach.--Mark Miller (talk) 19:09, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

It's okay. No hard feelings. — Earwig talk 19:12, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Copyvio Tool Not Compatible with sr.wikipedia?

https://toolserver.org/~earwig/copyvios?lang=sr&project=wikipedia&title=22._%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%98&url= --JustBerry (talk) 20:06, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

I already got your message on IRC, thanks. — Earwig talk 20:09, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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An update for the Tool

Hi,

Please do include HTTPS version of the sites to the exclude list of the tool.

Because right now it gives result like this:

https://fa.wikipedia.org/* is a suspected violation of fa.Wikipedia.org/*

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OK?

Thank you, Regards, KhabarNegar Talk 09:03, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

The same for Wikinews,
Thank you, KhabarNegar Talk 09:04, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
@KhabarNegar: Can you give me a specific page where this happens? Copy a URL where the tool gives a bad result. It shouldn't be happening (there's a check for HTTPS already) and I can't reproduce the issue so I'm pretty confused. — Earwig talk 04:08, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
I think it was a mistake from my side, because I thought if I gave URL it helps the tool, but now I read the above text and understand what URL(optional) means there, sorry :). [1]... But, by the way, this page which I gave to the tool is somehow copy pasted from some websites but the tool don't show any confidence. I use the same tools online it shows 18 websites which the material is copied from, anyway I will try this very useful tool more, again & again and give you my results.
Thank you very much,KhabarNegar Talk 04:50, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

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"Earwig's Copyvio Detector" Automation

A recent discussion at WT:AFC had the output of an idea of procedurally submitting all the pending afc submissions over a certain pending age to the detector and getting back the Spam/NotSpam and percentage likelyhood counts to be placed in a userspace page as a burndown log. Do you see any problems with this before I propose the task at Bot Operator's noticeboard? Hasteur (talk) 22:49, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

@Hasteur: Hmm... that would be fine, just make sure to not send requests too frequently (I'd suggest waiting at least ten seconds after the previous check has completed). It wouldn't break the tool or anything, but it would slow it down for anyone else who is trying to use it. Also, I would suggest not checking a single page more than once unless its content has changed significantly. The detector has no API yet, so it'd be hard for other bot devs to write the task, but an API is next on my list after finishing this issue. Once I'm done with it, I'll let you know, and you can request it.
Alternatively, a bot dev can install earwigbot, get an API key for Yahoo! BOSS through Coren, and run the checks themselves, but that might be more trouble than its worth. On the other hand, they could configure it to spend more/less time doing checks and they don't have to worry about web tool downtimes or whatever. I have a bot task that might be useful, but note that it'll need to be updated as soon as I finish the aforementioned issue. — Earwig talk 23:30, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Copyvios options

It appears that the Copyvios tool looks for similarities in 3-word strings. Lots of false positives with that setting. Is possible to adjust this or can you raise it to 5-words? ~KvnG 18:34, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

@Kvng: Hm. False positives are expected with short phrases that are part of common speech, but they should be infrequent enough that the overall confidence value remains low. I'm not concerned with a few false positives being shown in the comparison view, but if you have an example where it suspected a violation was present when it shouldn't have, then I might change my mind. It would be easy to change the n-gram size, but I would prefer to keep it small since using five words is more likely to miss cases where parts of sentences are reordered, etc. — Earwig talk 23:36, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
The tool is down at the moment. I can give you some examples once the tool is running again. ~KvnG 14:14, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Gah. Try now. — Earwig talk 15:11, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Have a look at this. I'll bring more as I find them. ~KvnG 23:19, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
To be honest, I don't see a problem with that one. There are definitely some suspiciously similar sentences that you could argue is close paraphrasing. The tool only gives it 50% confidence, which seems reasonable. — Earwig talk 23:28, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

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Copyvios tool whitescreens

All today so far I get a white screen at http://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/ Fiddle Faddle 11:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia Labs had an outage, so there was nothing I could do realistically. Should be fixed now, though. — Earwig talk 17:06, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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Failure to find better copyvio

Hi. I use your copyvio detector a bunch – thanks for this great tool!

Occasionally, it seems to find a relatively low percentage-match page, when I feel there must be a better match out there. I ran one of them down today:

The violating text is at User:AlanM1/CVSample. If asked to search the tool finds a 76.5% match. However, a search for some of the text with Google yielded this much better match, which compared using the tool, yields a 99.8% match. Shouldn't the tool have found this page as well?

Thanks again. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 08:20, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

@AlanM1: Hey, thanks for the report. I noticed two things: first, the tool wasn't always letting the user know when it was skipping possible matches (it finishes the check early when it encounters a source with ≥75% confidence, as you might have noticed). I just fixed that, so in the future you should see the "do a complete check" link whenever a search finishes early. As for the specific case you mentioned, I looked into it pretty carefully. The tool uses an algorithm to split the article text into searchable queries; for the given page, it creates the following ten:
Extended content
  • "This is a comprehensive tool for the organization to manage all service requests, not only to the IT department but to any"
  • "This module will also further extend to taking online exams within the organization so as to keep the knowledge updated with"
  • "Create assets as per categories and types of assets."
  • "Acknowledge each logs."
  • "Link events with photo gallery albums."
  • "So this application does not only work as IT Helpdesk Application but as a complete Helpdesk or service desk for your"
  • "Right report on survey helps the organization in bringing the right change in the organization to grow further."
  • "Some of the features include."
  • "Very helpful in production and shift environments where physical log books are used.. (Replacement of physical log books)"
  • "Calendar view for events and birthdays."
Many of these return http://license.cdesk.in/internal.aspx as a result in Google (example), but not in Yahoo (example). The fact is, Yahoo (which uses Bing as its backend now, which also lacks the page in its search results) is not as good of a search engine as Google; its index isn't as large and it doesn't seem to know about that URL. Since Yahoo is the one providing the WMF with access to its search engine and not Google, I don't think there's much I can do about this. I suspect other cases where a "better match is out there" are because of this reason. Sadly, we have to accept the tradeoff of a worse search engine in exchange for automation. — Earwig talk 06:33, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
FYI, the phrase I searched was "Special Features for location based IT managers and all location IT managers", which results in just the one hit on Google and no hits on Bing or Yahoo.

I modified the page slightly to force a new search and got the new Do a complete check link. When I click on it, though, you report the following error after about 5 seconds:

"An error occurred while using the search engine (Yahoo! BOSS Error: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error). Try reloading the page. If the error persists, repeat the check without using the search engine." This error was apparently temporary.

Out of curiosity, has Google been asked recently whether they can be used (and would that be a simple change)? On the face of it, this would seem to be an unlikely edge case, but then I've had the hunch before, usually from the writing quality being more professional/marketing-speak than even well-written Wikipedian :) —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:25, 15 October 2014 (UTC) (edited) —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:29, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I just tried it and it seems to work fine (Yahoo's 500 errors like that seem to be intermittent and not related to the actual query), but of course it's not returning the result we want. Supporting Google wouldn't be too hard if they allowed us to (I'd have to figure out their API); no one's spoken to them recently as far as I know, but I have little hope they'll change their mind based on previous attempts. — Earwig talk 02:34, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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Copyvios testing against itself and dupdet

I was going through my CSD log and found a couple pages I marked as CVs that hadn't been deleted, so I decided to check on them and see if they were still violations. I came across the Copyvios report for Draft:Brian Kennedy (Businessman) and noticed that the tool checks against itself and against a comparison created by dupdet. This probably shouldn't happen because at a quick glance without trying to read the looooong URL provided as a match it looks like a 99.8% match/violation. Thought I'd bring it to your attention and let you deal with it as you see fit. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 11:45, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Haha, holy crap, never thought I would see something like this! Seems Yahoo indexed that search result and it got confused. I'll add the toolserver (I mean Tool Labs... whoops) to the URL exclusion list. — Earwig talk 15:32, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

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Suggestion for improvement of the Copyvio Detector

I noticed that the Copyvio Detector search results include websites such as Wikia and Mashpedia. Mashpedia is a Wikipedia mirror, while much of Wikia's content is freely licensed (CC-by-SA). Would it be suitable to include (or exclude) these websites in the search results? Jarble (talk) 18:14, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I added them to User:EarwigBot/Copyvios/Exclusions for you. Thanks! — Earwig talk 19:08, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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Copyvio detection

Looking at your code [2] it seems like you are building Markov chains with very little data, and for the complete article, is that right? The problem as I see it is that describing the same entity will lead to the same language constructs, and using the whole article will imply using old text which may have propagated to external sites. That leads to a very high error rate, or low confidence. Do you have any estimates for the confidence intervals? As I see it a trustworthy copyvio detector can only use the most resent edits, it seems to be more in the range of minutes than hours, and definitely not days, and it must check if the same language construct is used by only a specific site. If the construct is used by several sites it is not usable as a hint for copyvio detection. That is the more confidence you get out of the Markov chain the less likely it is that something that looks like a copy violation is in fact just that. Or is it something I misunderstood in your code? Jeblad (talk) 04:17, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I'm not clear if your understanding of the code is correct, to be honest. Yes, Markov chains are formed for the article and each suspected source, and then they are compared. However, there is a difference between describing an entity similarly and outright copying text from elsewhere. In the latter instance, there will be a high frequency of duplicated phrases that you would not expect in the former. The only reason I can think of why two unrelated descriptions would appear similar is due to error when an entity might have a long name (or some particular short phrases, etc) that tends to be replicated in many places, and I admit the algorithm is not able to handle this well (there is room for improvement here), but I still think in most cases it is not going to affect confidence that much. Even if it does, one can recognize this when reviewing the comparison, and it should make one question why the article includes so many stock phrases/quotes in the first place (even if they are not technically plagiarized). Regarding recency: plenty of copyvios go undetected for a long period of time. While mirrors do need some time to catch up, merely being old does not make suspected sources mirrors. Regarding multiple sources: sometimes a single website will have multiple pages with the same copied content, or a (non-public domain) PDF will be widely disseminated and hosted from many sites. I don't think the mere existence of multiple webpages with the same content means that they are all mirrors. Instead, mirrors should be tracked (added to User:EarwigBot/Copyvios/Exclusions or Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks), which eliminates this concern if done correctly. — Earwig talk 08:33, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

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Hello The Earwig. This message is part of a mass mailing to people who appear active in reviewing articles for creation submissions. First of all, thank you for taking part in this important work! I'm sorry this message is a form letter – it really was the only way I could think of to covey the issue economically. Of course, this also means that I have not looked to see whether the matter is applicable to you in particular.

The issue is in rather large numbers of copyright violations ("copyvios") making their way through AfC reviews without being detected (even when easy to check, and even when hallmarks of copyvios in the text that should have invited a check, were glaring). A second issue is the correct method of dealing with them when discovered.

If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.)

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Hello The Earwig, sorry for the unintentional changes at your signature with my latest edit here. Probably a wikEd feature/bug, or my own inability to use it properly :). GermanJoe (talk) 10:43, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

No problem. My signature uses non-breaking spaces, but they're encoded directly as unicode characters, not HTML entities, so they look like normal spaces in the edit window. I guess wikiEd automatically replaces them? Seems like an odd feature, worth looking into. — Earwig talk 15:49, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Reading briefly (very briefly) through the wikEd talkpage, it seems like the editor analyses the text and re-codes it according to its own standards (and re-saves it with this standard). Usually that's OK, but rare problems occur with special characters - the talkpage contains 1-2 minor complaints about it. Just wanted to drop you a note, in case you wonder about it. GermanJoe (talk) 16:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, using your tool with itwiki I found 3 mirrors in results:

  • fatti-italiani.it
  • wikideep.it
  • wikipedia.sapere.virgilio.it

Could you please blacklist them? Thanks! --AlessioMela (talk) 13:50, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Done. — Earwig talk 20:30, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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Copyvios tool down?

@The Earwig: When I try to use your copyvios tool, I just get a page that says: "No webservice. The URI you have requested, /copyvios/, is not currently serviced." --Ahecht (TALK
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Fixed now, thanks. — Earwig talk 22:24, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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tool down

The Copyvio tool appears to be down again. By the way, your tool is awesome. Not only has it been useful at AfC, it's really helped speed up CCI cleanup. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:29, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Fixed, sigh. I should look into this more carefully. Either way, thanks. — Earwig talk 23:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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I think the copyvios tool broke. :( Deunanknute (talk) 02:41, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Labs has been having some issues today. — Earwig talk 04:36, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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Copy vio detector not working

Hi Ben. The copy vio detector tool is not working today. All articles are showing 0.0 per cent overlap, even ones that I know for certain have material copied from elsewhere online. If you could have a look and see what's up, I would appreciate it. Thanks, -- Diannaa (talk) 21:31, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the report. I restarted the server and it should be working now. The underlying issue seems to be out-of-memory errors; the same thing happened yesterday and a server restart then fixed it too. I'm not sure why we're running out of memory, though. If it happens again, I'll look more carefully. — Earwig talk 22:10, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks so much. I will get at my CCI tasks after supper! -- Diannaa (talk) 22:26, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

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Glitch in copy vio detector

Hi there, me again. The copyvio detector is working great, except when comparing with a link from the Wayback Machine. These are timing out, every time. I am using the Duplication Detector for these instances, but would prefer to use your superior tool. If you have time, could you please investigate? Thanks, -- Diannaa (talk) 22:34, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

@Diannaa: Hmm, can you give an example? This one works fine. — Earwig talk 17:11, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
The ones that were not working were for example here, here, here (searching for matches on Francis Escudero), were not working yesterday, but they are all working fine today. So, a false alarm I guess. -- Diannaa (talk) 18:35, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Hmm, alright. Sometimes Labs has intermittent issues talking to certain servers and there's nothing we can do about that. It seems to go away with time. — Earwig talk 23:56, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

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Earwig's Copyvio Detector bug

The detector appears to fail on articles with ampersands in the name, for example Shanmugha Arts, Science, Technology & Research Academy. Almost certainly a URL encoding issue. Stuartyeates (talk) 22:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

@Stuartyeates: Thanks for the report, but the detector has no problem with those pages: if you enter the title directly, it works fine. That looks to be an issue with how {{copypaste}} is encoding titles. I'm not entirely clear on how these templates are structured (looks like {{copypaste}} invokes {{CVD}} which invokes {{copyvios}}, possibly with some double-encoding going on?), so I'll @Technical 13: to take a look. — Earwig talk 23:48, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

April 29: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Wednesday April 29, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our inaugural evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities.

After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street

Featuring a keynote talk this month on Lady Librarians & Feminist Epistemologies! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 18:29, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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June 10: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting

Wednesday June 10, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our next evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

This month will also feature on our agenda: recent and upcoming editathons, the organization's Annual Meeting, and Chapter board elections.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities.

After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street

Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 17:23, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

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