User talk:TYelliot/Archive 4
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Woozworld
You recently tagged Woozworld for speedy deletion. The version that you quite rightly tagged was a much vandalised version and I have now restored a better and earlier version. IMHO, the current version has little merit, but I will leave it up to you if you wish to re-tag it for deletion. Regards Velella Velella Talk 09:07, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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Marla Malcolm Beck submitted for review 5.31
I submitted the page for Marla Malcolm beck on 5.31 and it wasn't approved. I resubmitted today. What's going on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gremlin700 (talk • contribs) 15:01, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
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Willie Aames
Hello, I'm TYelliot. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made with this edit to Willie Aames, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 18:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
I've read some of your other responses/edits and noticed you've also stated that you didn't think their contributions were constructive.
I thought we were striving for accuracy, not handing out hugs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.68.233.100 (talk) 18:23, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- We do strive for accuracy, but we also try to be nice to other editors. Also, the warning is a template - I didn't write the message myself. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 18:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Willie Aames
Does this approach suggest that it would be alright to remove references to Milton Acaedmy on T.S. Elliot's page because someone believed the the anglophile Elliot would be embarassed by the connection to that American institution? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.68.233.100 (talk) 19:06, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- I reverted your edit on Aames because it was a potentially contentious statement not backed by an independent secondary source. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 19:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Corpse Bride
Hello, I'm TYelliot. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made with this edit to Corpse Bride, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 19:17, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Reply: I believe it is constructive because it adds more detail the maggots accent, which is obviously not American or British and to my ears sounds pretty German. The maggots voice is based after Peter Lorre who was born in Austro Hungary to a German speaking family and has a German accent himself despite getting United States citizenship. I believe that every detail is important and its only a little bit of text which is hardly a big batch of irrelevant information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.129.229.27 (talk) 23:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- Such information may be useful, but should only be added to the subject's own article, not in one about a film he acted in. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 04:00, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Your Undo On Omaha Police Dept
I am failing to understand your categorization of non constructive and disruptive. I made my edits in good faith to reflect accurately the rank levels within the deparemt. Who are you to judge that accuracy? Cite your source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.88.24 (talk) 04:14, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Yep
Yeah it was vandalism sorry lol, did you atleast get a laugh?121.220.11.203 (talk) 10:23, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Penicuik
'Mose' Hutchison is the actual citizen of the year for Penicuik and is well known in our community. He writes for the Penicuik newspaper and helps organise community events. He also helps with parades. He is a notable person.
Liam Lynch is also real but is not as famous as 'Mose'. I hope you understand that.
194.83.245.136 (talk) 10:24, 1 April 2014 (UTC) Ciaran Marr
- While Mr Hutchison may be a notable member of your community, in my opinion he does not fulfil the notability guidelines for people. There must be multiple published secondary independent sources that don't just mention him in passing. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 10:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
194.83.245.136 (talk) 10:38, 1 April 2014 (UTC) Ciaran Marr
- The first article only mentions him in passing. The second article is possibly acceptable, but it is from a local newspaper with a small circulation. In any event, that leaves us with one valid source - not enough for the subject to be considered notable. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 10:48, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Your message regarding Rolf Rendtorff
Hi TYelliot,
Rolf was a personal family friend who passed away this morning in Heidelberg. The information about his death is already on the German wiki page: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolf_Rendtorff
I see that the birth dates on the en and de pages diverge and this needs to be reconciled. Other sources (e.g.http://dunedinschool.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/rolf-rendtorff/) give 10 May 1925 as his birthday which I deem correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.11.249.54 (talk) 17:18, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing that out. My condolences for his passing. --TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 17:26, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Page review
In marking 2014-15 NBA season as reviewed, did it not bother you that most of the information in the article was related to (and yes, even copied verbatim from) the article about the 2013-14 NBA season? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:26, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Radio Northern Star
I got a note from you stating that this article which has only just been created, is being considered for deletion. I also got a lot of time consuming instructions about what to do next. I don't have time for any of this. I have no idea why on earth a listing for this station should be deleted, and I have no time to engage in reading a long list of instructions about how to get into a debate with others about whether it should be deleted. Perhaps you should explain why you think that it should be deleted and then I can go from there.AndthebeatGOES (talk) 17:44, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Cowboys and Indies - The Epic History of the Record Industry
Hi TYelliot, I added a lot of content today. I would really appreciate some specific feedback concerning what's put it on AfD death row. Kind Regards, --Murphyland (talk) 20:39, 2 April 2014 (UTC)Murphyland
- Hi Murphyland. Thank you for adding plenty of content - my concern about the notability of your book is that although there are some reviews of the book, the websites hosting these reviews may not themselves be notable (or 'trivial', but that's only Wikipedia language). Moreover, we will need a full review of the book, not just a plot summary. The guidelines are in this page, so feel free to peruse them! TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 10:51, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Edit again
Sorry if my edit was not constructive. But the fact is that Uyo is not in south eastern Nigeria,rather in south-south geopolitical zone.Medara Bassey (talk) 17:04, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing that out to me. However, I would like to point out that Wikianswers is not a reliable source of information. Instead, please see this page. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 13:14, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
User Page Protection
I went ahead and requested protection for your userpage. I see some unscrupulous editing going on there by anons. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 07:55, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 08:07, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- I also opened a sockpuppet investigation regarding the user responsible for the vandalism of both your page and mine if you want to chime in. :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 08:10, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I was reverting some fan's unsourced opinion. I think your Huggle may have displayed whose edits were whose incorrectly or something. Arfæst Ealdwrítere (talk) 10:04, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello, in cases like this, please tag as WP:G10 (attack page/negative unsourced BLP) rather than A7. The page in question is a clear attack page. Thanks, Valenciano (talk) 22:13, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Pedare Christian College Vandals
Before I open an SPI case involving all these vandals, wanted to get your input to see if it'd be worthwhile versus just reporting them all to AIV. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 05:31, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- Moot point, @Gogo dodo: blocking the suspected puppetmaster seems to have gotten them all. ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ 話 ♪ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 07:49, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
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Kachhi (caste)
Hello TYelliot. Hello, I'm TYelliot. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Kachhi (caste)— because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 21:46, 1 April 2015 (UTC) I wanted to let you know that words and explanation for Kachhi caste is wrong and i have details to correct it. Can you please correct it. Please upload below text:
History:
For Kachhi caste Islamic administrator were very cruel(unkind) so he started national language farsi(pesian) force fully n they were unable to use sanskrit pure so many variation found in many group You all can see ur registration of land (during mughal at your home rt now in farsi) also called dakhil khariz…kewala….in your village You must heard this proverb –(a)padhe farsi beche tel dekha ho karam ke khel Means-its really surprise that he has studied farsi(persina) despite unable to get job in badsah darbar (b)hath kangan ko arsi(mirror) kya padhe likhe ko farsi kya Means-if you are educated means profience in farsi else you not educated Indian culture got pain & worry again & again we forget our past. According to pandulipi(manuscript) of kasi/kachi (now varanasi) magadh (now patna) rohtas(sasaram) n gwalior etc we proved success of same root …our scholar of bhu(banaras hindu university) n dav(dayanand anglo vedic) with help of arya samaj formed organization that time called “kushwaha kshatriya mahasabha”(british-india) 1921 simon commision accept our root and ancestor history in suryavansh including 12 caste(100 gotra or sub caste i e kachhi, kachwaha, kannojiya etc )
- I would happily upload said material for you if there were sufficient references. Please see the relevant guidelines for references on Wikipedia. Additionally, please have a look at the manual of style for relevant parts regarding your potential edit. Of course you are also welcome to edit the article yourself. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 22:16, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
HOW YOU DEFINE MISSING?
You call me vandal, hw you define missing foo?
- Please cite reliable sources to back up your claim, per Wikipedia guidelines on referencing sources. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 17:28, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Bus
Sorry. Excuse me. I made a mistake when copying a photo. --Xoio (talk) 21:01, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
The Wicked + The Divine
You reverted one of my edits-- it's clearly canon and the cite for the sentence following applies. In every context in The Wicked + The Divine so far, Tara is referred to as "fucking Tara."
this isn't cam, I swear 23:31, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- That appears to be true according to what some readers posted on their social media sites. However, I don't believe this is a useful addition to the article. In any case, social media sites are not reliable sources. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 07:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thank you for reverting Vandalism.
!dea4u 05:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Rural College Kanakapura
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Northern Response
Hi TYelliot - I received your note that you have tagged my post on "Northern Response" for speedy deletion. You mentioned in your note that there were various reasons for your tagging. Would it be possible for you to expand on them, so I can better understand the reasoning? If there are changes I should make, I'd be happy to do so. Thank you, Bobjacksson. (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Northern_Response)
- I stated that the subject of the article, Northern Response, did not meet Wikipedia's notability policy on organisations. Also it appeared to me that the article was written with the intention of promoting the subject. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 07:20, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
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Patrolled
I Got a message saying you patrolled my artice i made. Whats that mean exactly?
- It means that I have reviewed the article and have found no pressing issues that may lead to its deletion, e.g. lack of references, lack of notability etc. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 19:31, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I fixed it a little further, and removed the speedy deletion tag. . Please do the following to make it look more like the usual WP article on academics:
- check that each distinction is mentioned only once. If any of the fellowships are relatively minor, omit them
- Add a complete list of all his published books in reverse chronological order, formatted as a list. If any of them won prizes, give the reference & and omit from list of honours
- Try to find the basic biographic information: Place and date of birth, degree at Antwerp, country and city where he lives. Date of marriage & name of spouse, if available.
- Try to find doctoral advisor/chair of doctoral committee, Add it, with a reference link whether or not there is aready an article. Try to find exact title of his doctoral thesis. As a European thesis, it was probably published. DGG ( talk ) 19:46, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, will try do as best I can. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 22:09, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Ok i try it as much as possible.MarkHerson (talk) 05:05, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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Australian Ecology Research Award
Hi TYelliott. Thank you for categorizing the wiki that I created for AERA , an award based on the Robert H MacArthur award (which also has a wiki). If you had the time, I would be grateful if you could review the same. I would also appreciate any feedback on how better to get any parts of the wiki to conform to Wikipedia guidelines.
kind regards, ragsoikos (talk) 21:45, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Question concerning the article Rüdiger Marmulla
Dear TYelliot, I have provided the missing citations, after the remark This biographical article needs additional citations for verification was added. What can be done to remove the remark? Greetings User:DerMKGChirurg — Preceding undated comment added 17:29, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Liban Barre page
hello Tyelliot i created a page about this famous somali actor and internet sensation guy name Liban Barre he is very famous in country Somalia and you tried to delete it tell me why and in that case check out this page https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Sulekha_Ali if you think his page should get deleted i think this page should get deleted too cause i checked it out and really has nothing on there — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed9558 (talk • contribs) 07:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- The page which you referred to has one reference which appears to be an independent secondary source, although there does seem to be a lack of additional such sources, possibly placing the article in jeopardy of falling short of general notability guidelines. However, the page which you have created does not seem to have any reliable sources to back it up, and thus I have nominated it for speedy deletion. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 08:47, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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Philip Melanchthon
Hi - I changed the spelling of "Philip Melanchthon" to Philipp Melanchthon" because it was mispelled. You can look it up on the German Wikipedia pages. I have no idea why this would be "not constructive," but the name is clearly spelled wrong.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_Melanchthon
If you want to change it yourself, go ahead. Is it a fairly embarrassing mistake
- You do have a point, but it appears that on the English Wikipedia "Philipp" is anglicised to "Philip". Perhaps you could open a discussion on the article's talk page? TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 16:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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I had mistaken this for a self-reverted test edit. Should have looked more closely. Cheers. - DVdm (talk) 18:42, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
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TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 15:19, 15 June 2018 (UTC)A community decision has authorised the use of general sanctions for pages related to the blockchain and cryptocurrencies. The details of these sanctions are described here. All pages that are broadly related to these topics are subject to a one revert per twenty-four hours restriction, as described here.
General sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimise disruption in controversial topic areas. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to these topics that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behaviour, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. An editor can only be sanctioned after he or she has been made aware that general sanctions are in effect. This notification is meant to inform you that sanctions are authorised in these topic areas, which you have been editing. It is only effective if it is logged here. Before continuing to edit pages in these topic areas, please familiarise yourself with the general sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.It turns out that that page, which you accepted, is identical to the content I deleted under WP:GS/Crypto and contained a number of red flags you overlooked. Looking at your contributions, it is clear that you are not spending enough time to properly scrutinize each AFC submission at the very least -- including checking the sources and whether the mainspace article has been deleted. I have, as a consequence, removed your ability to review AFC submissions using the script as a normal admin action. In the future: slow down, familiarize yourself with the problem of undisclosed native advertising and promotion on Wikipedia and review pages with a critical eye. MER-C 18:49, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- I do apologise for overlooking the red flags. I did in fact notice that the article has been deleted before, but at the time I did not think that was an obstacle to accepting the article, provided that it did not seem like promotion. As I was not able to view the deleted version I am not sure what I could have done then. I would be very grateful if you could point out some of the red flags you mention so that I can learn. Also, I am not sure that removing my ability to use the tool is helpful, as it will not help me in the AfC review process - it just will take me longer to perform the tedious tasks of informing the page creator, making comments, and moving the draft to the mainspace, etc. TYelliot | Talk | Contribs 08:21, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- The deletion reason and subject matter should have sent alarm bells ringing. Native advertising sockfarms are very common, and as you've just found out, cryptocurrency related areas are under general sanctions due to the torrent of promotional material. And there's this, from another article you recently accepted:
- > Novica is an e-commerce website that enables artisans to sell their handcrafted goods to customers worldwide. Partnered with the National Geographic Society,[1] Novica shows handcrafted works of art, ranging from handmade jewelry to handmade apparel and world-style home decor.
- This is promotional text... again, about a small company and/or startup loaded with unnecessary adjectives.
- > it just will take me longer to perform the tedious tasks of informing the page creator, making comments, and moving the draft to the mainspace
- That's the point. It takes more than three minutes to perform proper due diligence on an article. I consulted with a couple of other admins, and they agree that you should not have access to the AFC script. MER-C 14:43, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
created this page for Koushik V who is a domestic players who plays in the karnataka premier league.
koushik v this is regarding the article for creation on koushik v that was not acccepted saying it did nit meet the requirements, but the player has played at one of the highest level of domestic cricket Karnataka Premier League , and also has been part of karnataka state team at different levels. he also has the record of being leading wicket taker in several tournamnets like the Safi darshah trophy[1], KPL and so.. i have added links even for that, i have added enough number of external links to it. so please have a closer look into it and consider this article for creation.Cricket karnataka 11 (talk) 16:07, 17 June 2018 (UTC)cricket karnataka 11
Request on 09:31:56, 18 June 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by DSotnikov
Hi, thank you for your review. Looks like I need help re-wording it to meet the guidelines. I believe that Ballerina is getting significant traction to be covered in Wikipedia:
- It is an open source project that already has 224 contributors (I've added the link in the references to the article although I did not add the stats),
- IDG listed it as number one in their "Top programming languages you should try".
- There is an upcoming BallerinaCon conference in July,
- Indeed, there are articles in The New Stack and InfoQ - these are well-known and well-regarded in the tech community - just see the number of wikipedia articles already using InfoQ as a source.
- It is supported in Microsoft developer tools,
- Already referenced in some other wikipedia articles, e.g. Comparison of programming languages.
DSotnikov (talk) 09:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Request on 15:43:21, 26 June 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by TCG2017
Hello,
My article on Eleonora Ottaviani Moroni was declined and on the wiki help channel, we advice me to contact you regarding the criteria in WP:NEQUESTRIAN and Eleonora Ottaviani Moroni's notability in equestrian.
Indeed, the notability may be presume for persons / individuals who made major contributions to the equestrian industry. I think that Eleonora Ottaviani Moroni does suit these criteria. She has been associated with equestrian competition at international level competition as Event Director for the European Championships and the CSI 5* Jumping in Valencia. Those events are sanctioned/approved by the FEI which is the governing body of equestrian sports.
Since 1997, she has been involved with the International Jumping Riders Club (IJRC), of which she is currently Executive Director. The IJRC is an organization that represents equestrian international riders and has signed a memorundum of understanding with the FEI.
In 2009, she was judge at the FEI Award. She is also involved in the Equestrian European Federation (EEF) as Athletes’ Representative. And finally she is President of a non-profit association for young talented equestrian riders, the Riders Academy which is sponsored by Rolex. She dedicates her life to equestrian sports and riders and contributes through her engagement that the athletes’ voices are heard and make sure that fair play and the horses’ welfare are the priority in equestrian sports.
Therefore, she does play a major contributions to the equestrian industry.
Thank you for your return and looking forward to hearing from you.
TCG2017 (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2018 (UTC) TCG2017
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NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018
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Hello TYelliot, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
- June backlog drive
Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.
- New technology, new rules
- New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
- Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
- Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.
- Editathons
- Editathons will continue through August. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.
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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello TYelliot, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.
- Project news
- The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
- As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
- There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination#Coordinator tasks for more info to see if you can help out.
- Other
- A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.
- Moving to Draft and Page Mover
- Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
- If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
- Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
- The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
- The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.
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Linus Dahlander
Hi TYelliot, I wanted to let you know that I have updated this page https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Linus_Dahlander with more citations as well as books and awards won by Linus Dahlander. Being awarded one of the best 40 under 40 professors by Poets and Quants shows that he is an outstanding academic in his field - even if this field (Strategy and Innovation) may not be widely acknowledged as an academic field. I would kindly ask you to have another look and reconsider. Thank you very much in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihlbrock (talk • contribs) 12:50, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
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Hello TYelliot, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
- Backlog
As of 21 October 2018[update], there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
- Community Wishlist Proposal
- There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
- Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!
- Project updates
- ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
- There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
- New scripts
- User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js(info) — A new script created for quickly placing {{copyvio-revdel}} on a page.
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NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
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- If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
- We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.
- With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.
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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
Hello TYelliot,
- Reviewer of the Year
This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
- Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.
See also the list of top 100 reviewers.
- Less good news, and an appeal for some help
The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
- Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019
At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.
- Training video
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NPR Newsletter No.17
Hello TYelliot,
- News
- The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.
- Discussions of interest
- Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
- {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
- A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
- There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
- Reminders
- NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
- NPP Tools Report
- Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
- copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
- The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.
Six Month Queue Data: Today – Low – 2393 High – 4828
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NPR Newsletter No.18
Hello TYelliot,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
- Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
- Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
- Reliable Sources for NPP
Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
- Backlog drive coming soon
Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
- News
- Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.
- Discussions of interest
- A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
- There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
- What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like
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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019
Hello TYelliot,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.
- QUALITY of REVIEWING
Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.
- Backlog
The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.
- Move to draft
NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.
- Notifying users
Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.
- PERM
Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.
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School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello TYelliot,
- Backlog
Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
- Coordinator
A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
- This month's refresher course
Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
- Deletion tags
Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
- Paid editing
Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
- Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
- Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
- Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
- Not English
- A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
- Tools
Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.
Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.
Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.
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New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello TYelliot,
This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.
- Getting the queue to 0
There are now 811 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.
- Coordinator
Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.
- This month's refresher course
Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.
- Tools
- It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
- It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
- Reviewer Feedback
Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.
- Second set of eyes
- Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
- Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
- Arbitration Committee
The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.
- Community Wish list
There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion.
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New Page Review newsletter December 2019
- Reviewer of the Year
This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.
Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.
Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.
Rank | Username | Num reviews | Log |
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1 | Rosguill (talk) | 47,395 | Patrol Page Curation |
2 | Onel5969 (talk) | 41,883 | Patrol Page Curation |
3 | JTtheOG (talk) | 11,493 | Patrol Page Curation |
4 | Arthistorian1977 (talk) | 5,562 | Patrol Page Curation |
5 | DannyS712 (talk) | 4,866 | Patrol Page Curation |
6 | CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) | 3,995 | Patrol Page Curation |
7 | DragonflySixtyseven (talk) | 3,812 | Patrol Page Curation |
8 | Boleyn (talk) | 3,655 | Patrol Page Curation |
9 | Ymblanter (talk) | 3,553 | Patrol Page Curation |
10 | Cwmhiraeth (talk) | 3,522 | Patrol Page Curation |
(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)
- Redirect autopatrol
A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.
- Source Guide Discussion
Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
- This month's refresher course
While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.
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New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020
Hello TYelliot,
- Source Guide Discussion
The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.
- Redirects
New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.
- Discussions and Resources
- There is an ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
- A recent discussion of whether Michelin starred restraunts are notable was archived without closure.
- A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
- A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.
- Refresher
Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.
Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7095 Low – 4991 High – 7095
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New Page Reviewer newsletter June 2020
Hello TYelliot,
- Your help can make a difference
NPP Sorting can be a great way to find pages needing new page patrolling that match your strengths and interests. Using ORES, it divides articles into topics such as Literature or Chemistry and on Geography. Take a look and see if you can find time to patrol a couple pages a day. With over 10,000 pages in the queue, the highest it's been since ACPERM, your help could really make a difference.
- Google Adds New Languages to Google Translate
In late February, Google added 5 new languages to Google Translate: Kinyarwanda, Odia (Oriya), Tatar, Turkmen and Uyghur. This expands our ability to find and evaluate sources in those languages.
- Discussions and Resources
- A discussion on handling new article creation by paid editors is ongoing at the Village Pump.
- Also at the Village Pump is a discussion about limiting participation at Articles for Deletion discussion.
- A proposed new speedy deletion criteria for certain kinds of redirects ended with no consensus.
- Also ending with no change was a proposal to change how we handle certain kinds of vector images.
Six Month Queue Data: Today – 10271 Low – 4991 High – 10271
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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
Hello TYelliot,
Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.
Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.
At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.
There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.
If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.
Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.
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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello TYelliot,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.
Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.
In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 811 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 846 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.
This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.
If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}}
on their talk page.
If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello TYelliot,
- Backlog status
At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.
Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]
In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).
- Backlog drive
A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
- TIP – New school articles
Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
- Misc
There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}
, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 14493 articles, as of 12:00, 18 December 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot
There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.
- Reminders
- Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
- If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing
{{subst:NPR invite}}
on their talk page. - If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
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- Notes
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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello TYelliot,
- Backlog status
After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.
- Coordination
- MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
- Open letter to the WMF
- The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
- TIP - Reviewing by subject
- Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.
- New reviewers
- The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.
- Reminders
- Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
- If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing
{{subst:NPR invite}}
on their talk page. - If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
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NPP message
Hi TYelliot,
- Invitation
For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.
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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
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