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PLAAF involvement in Vietnam
[edit]I hope you’re well. I noticed that my recent edit on the PLAAF page was reverted, and I would like to kindly ask for a reconsideration. In my edit, I referenced the deployment of both PLAAF and PLAGF units, including anti-aircraft units, during the Vietnam War. This information is based on sources that highlight the significant involvement of Chinese forces in supporting North Vietnam during the conflict.
I understand there may be concerns regarding the accuracy or the context of my addition, and I’d be happy to discuss it further or provide additional sources to clarify. I believe this aspect of the Vietnam War is an important part of the PLAAF’s history and would appreciate the opportunity to have the edit restored.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Here is my current non English sources I found, is these source acceptable to re add it?:
Source1:
https://news.ifeng.com/history/1/jishi/200811/1107_2663_867254.shtml
Source2:
http://hprc.cssn.cn/gsyj/wjs/gjyz/201606/P020180416372852730156.pdf
AussieSurplus1510 (talk) 09:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC) AussieSurplus1510 (talk) 09:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Your source did not support the edits you were trying to make -- it made no mention of the PLAAF, it simply referenced "air defense units" without any indication of what branch they belonged to. That source also does not meet our standards for reliability -- it's simply an aggregator republishing content without endorsement of its accuracy, and the original source was not reliable. Neither of the two sources you've provided here are sufficient either -- the first is a highly biased opinion piece that makes grandiose claims while failing to state their methodology or evidence; the second is a student paper from the PLA's military academy. You need to find reliable, neutral, non-CCP sources for this claim. Additionally, it appears that you may be using LLM translation to help with your editing -- I strongly suggest avoiding using that in the article, as it's a very quick way to get blocked from editing. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 16:50, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- So does mean these policy may also applies at other language Wikipedia? Because about months ago I was being reported by someone and got blocked on Japanese Wikipedia for one week because I used machine translation and LLM, as they said to my talk page at there. AussieSurplus1510 (talk) 14:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Every language Wikipedia makes their own policies, for the most part. Those may be identical, or may be different. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 17:43, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- So does mean these policy may also applies at other language Wikipedia? Because about months ago I was being reported by someone and got blocked on Japanese Wikipedia for one week because I used machine translation and LLM, as they said to my talk page at there. AussieSurplus1510 (talk) 14:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Your source did not support the edits you were trying to make -- it made no mention of the PLAAF, it simply referenced "air defense units" without any indication of what branch they belonged to. That source also does not meet our standards for reliability -- it's simply an aggregator republishing content without endorsement of its accuracy, and the original source was not reliable. Neither of the two sources you've provided here are sufficient either -- the first is a highly biased opinion piece that makes grandiose claims while failing to state their methodology or evidence; the second is a student paper from the PLA's military academy. You need to find reliable, neutral, non-CCP sources for this claim. Additionally, it appears that you may be using LLM translation to help with your editing -- I strongly suggest avoiding using that in the article, as it's a very quick way to get blocked from editing. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 16:50, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
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What do you think about a redirect instead of outright deleting it? Bearian (talk) 04:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, that would work as well. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 04:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Black Hawk Down (film)
[edit]I'm curious why you protected this page for a year when it was only vandalized twice recently, the second time twelve days after the first. A year is a long while, so I wanted to hear your perspective for why you semi-protected it for that long. Fathoms Below (talk) 21:44, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Only twice recently, but it'd been having on-and-off issues for months before that from unconstructive IP edits so as I recall I went for a longer option to address both concerns. You're welcome to reduce it if you prefer (or suggest an alternate duration and I can do it). ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 21:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Since the last edits go back to August, I would have done pending personally since there isn't much activity going on there. Plus it gives extra eyes and people can easily revert it once its in the pending changes queue. Fathoms Below (talk) 22:02, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll reduce the duration and switch it over to pending. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 22:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Now I'm confused -- I'm showing it's only protected for a month, not a year? ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!
- Ah I thought it was protected until February 2026, looks like I scanned over the page history too quickly. You could apply pending changes for a year, or apply semi-protection for a couple weeks, though personally I'd prefer the former. But it's well within your discretion to protect it however you see fit. Fathoms Below (talk) 22:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah OK that makes sense, I was like "it's been a couple of weeks since I looked at it but I don't remember it being *that* long...". With only a month (significantly less now), to me it'd make the most sense to just leave it as is then and let it expire naturally in a couple weeks and reassess afterwards, I think, but I'm also personally not a huge fan of pending changes as it's always felt clunky to me. But if you want to modify it to PC you'll find no objections from me. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 22:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ah I thought it was protected until February 2026, looks like I scanned over the page history too quickly. You could apply pending changes for a year, or apply semi-protection for a couple weeks, though personally I'd prefer the former. But it's well within your discretion to protect it however you see fit. Fathoms Below (talk) 22:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Now I'm confused -- I'm showing it's only protected for a month, not a year? ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!
- I'll reduce the duration and switch it over to pending. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 22:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Since the last edits go back to August, I would have done pending personally since there isn't much activity going on there. Plus it gives extra eyes and people can easily revert it once its in the pending changes queue. Fathoms Below (talk) 22:02, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Only twice recently, but it'd been having on-and-off issues for months before that from unconstructive IP edits so as I recall I went for a longer option to address both concerns. You're welcome to reduce it if you prefer (or suggest an alternate duration and I can do it). ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 21:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)