User talk:Stuartyeates/Archive 9
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Merge discussion for Battle of the Greens
An article that you have been involved in editing, Battle of the Greens , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Cossde (talk) 16:09, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #45
- Development
- Deployment to English Wikipedia
- Fix various minor bugs in client, including watchlist toggle with preference to default to always show Wikidata edits
- Added the new Baso Minangkabau Wikipedia (min)
- Fixed wrong revision of statements being shown in diff and old revision view
- Diff visualization for claims (simple version for main snak)
- Diff visualization for claims (extended version for references, qualifiers, ranks)
- Tooltip that notifies about the license your contributions will be covered by while editing (can be disabled by each user)
- Started with valueview refactoring
- Started with user interface handling of deleted properties
- Started with refactoring of local partial entity lookup
- Started with refactoring of toolbar usage in jQuery.wikibase view widgets
- Finished improvement on jQuery.wikibase.claimview’s edit mode handling
- Improved search by using entity selector in search field instead of normal MediaWiki search field
- More work on Lua-based templates for entities
- Specified the capabilities of the query language we need
- Created query object
- Proper bot-flagging of edits (bugzilla:44857)
- Use of ID to directly address an item or property
- Search should give more of the complete matches now
- Special:ItemByTitle should work for canonical namespaces and later on for local namespaces
- More robust format for notifications of changes on the repository to the client
- Started work on refactoring API and autocomments code
- Started to maintain documentation of configuration options in git
- Discussions/Press
- Events
- Upcoming: Wikipedia Day NYC
- Upcoming: office hour in English tomorrow
- Note: changed day of next German office hour to March 8
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- We have a time scheduled when Wikidata will be read-only for a database migration. The window for that is Feb 20 19:00 to Feb 21 2:00 UTC.
- New features and bugfixes on Wikidata are planned to be deployed on Monday (Feb 18). This should among other things include:
- Showing useful diffs for edits of claims (they’re currently empty)
- Automatic comments for editing of claims (there are currently none)
- Ability to add items to claims by their ID
- Better handling of deleted properties
- More results in the entity selector (that’s the thing that lets you select properties, items and so on) so you can add everything and not just the first few matches that are shown
- We’re still working on the issue that sometimes editing of certain parts of items or properties isn’t possible. If you’re running into it try to reload the page and/or change the URL to the www. version or the non-www. version respectively.
- Deployment on all other Wikipedias is currently planned for March 6 (a note to the Village Pumps of all affected projects will follow soon)
- Check out a well-done item
- Open Tasks for You
- Help expand en:Wikipedia:Wikidata
- Help expand and translate Wikidata/Deployment Questions
- Hack on one these
Speedy deletion nomination of Alexander Crow McGeorge
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A tag has been placed on Alexander Crow McGeorge requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.
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Wikidata weekly summary #46
- Development
- Deployed new features and bugfixes including diffs for statements and the ability to enter items and properties by their ID
- Updated demo system
- Database maintainance (Wikidata was in read-only mode for a bit)
- Implemented first version of a string data type
- Worked on better error reporting from the API
- Ported Lua function mw.wikibase.getEntity to Wikibase extension
- Worked on making the search box suggest items and properties while typing
- Improved the behaviour of the entity selector (thingy that lets you select items and entities)
- Improved debugging experience in JavaScript when dealing with prototypical inheritance
- Worked on cleanup of local entity store
- Generalized generation of localizable edit summaries
- Discussions/Press
- Wikidata development will continue in 2013
- Wikidata Phase 2 in Full Swing
- RFC about the Wikidata API
- Lots of discussions about certain properties and how they should be used. Current state is at d:Wikidata:List of properties and new ones are being discussed at [d:Wikidata:Property proposal]]
- RCF about amending the global bot policy for Wikidata
- Proposed changes to Wikidata’s notability guidelines
- Events
- office hour including a report on the current status of Wikidata (log)
- upcoming: Wikipedia Day NYC
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Deployment of phase 1 (language links) on all remaining Wikipedias and a small update on Wikidata are planned for March 6
- Great page for editors to learn about what phase 1 means for them
- Cool tool visualizing family relations based on data in Wikidata
- “Restricting the World” (first in a series about some design decisions behind Wikidata)
- List of most used properties
- OmegaWiki is using Wikidata to get links to Wikipedia articles
- Nyan Nyan Wikidata Nyan Nyan
- We’ve hit d:Q5000000
- Had a look at d:Wikidata:Tools lately?
- Open Tasks for You
- Hack on one of these
- Help translate Wikidata/Deployment Questions
- Help bring the content of en:Wikipedia:Wikidata to your Wikipedia
Hello, and thanks for tagging this for notability. 4 years later, it's still unresolved. You might want to consider taking it to WP:N/N or AfD if you're still concerned. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 17:23, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Accolade Competition
Hi Stuart,
I have restored Accolade Competition, an article that was deleted after you proposed its deletion. I see plenty of non-PR coverage in the mainstream media through Google News, so I believe the competition to pass WP:GNG. If you disagree, you are welcome to initiate an AfD. If you start such a discussion, I would be grateful if you would let me know.
Neelix (talk) 18:55, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap)
It's been a full year since the Teahouse opened, and as we're reflecting on what's been accomplished, we wanted to celebrate with you.
Teahouse guests and hosts are sharing their stories in a new blog post about the project.
1 year statistics for Teahouse visitors compared to invited non-visitors from the pilot:
Metric | Control group | Teahouse group | Contrast |
---|---|---|---|
Average retention (weeks with at least 1 edit) | 5.02 weeks | 8.57 weeks | 1.7x retention |
Average number of articles edited | 58.7 articles | 116.9 edits | 2.0x articles edited |
Average talk page edits | 36.5 edits | 85.6 edits | 2.4x talk page edits |
Average article space edits | 129.6 edits | 360.4 edits | 2.8x article edits |
Average total edits (all namespaces) | 182.1 edits | 532.4 edits | 2.9x total edits |
Over the past year almost 2000 questions have been asked and answered, 669 editors have introduced themselves, 1670 guests have been served, 867 experienced Wikipedians have participated in the project, and 137 have served as hosts. Read more project analysis in our CSCW 2013 paper
Last month January was our most active month so far! 78 profiles were created, 46 active hosts answered 263 questions, and 11 new hosts joined the project.
Come by the Teahouse to share a cup of tea and enjoy a Birthday Cupcake! Happy Birthday to the Teahouse and thank you for a year's worth of interest and support :-)
- -- Ocaasi and the rest of the Teahouse Team 20:50, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #47
- Development
- Extended diff view to include references now
- Fixed bug where incorrect statements revision was shown in diff view
- Added first version of Linked Data interface (RDF/XML); will be accessible from Special:EntityData
- Updated the demo system
- More work towards using Solr for our search
- More investigation and fixes of search issues
- Fixed several bugs in the entity selector and improved its behavior
- Worked on refactoring of how our widgets use the toolbar
- Worked on implementation of missing data model components in JavaScript
- A lot of bug fixing
- Events
- Wikipedia Day NYC
- upcoming: Wikimedia metrics and activities meeting
- upcoming: office hour (German)
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Rollout of phase 1 (language links) on all remaining Wikipedias is still planned for March 6
- Next update on wikidata.org is also planned for March 6. This will have bugfixes and if all goes well string as a new available data type.
- Proposal was made to the Hungarian, Hebrew and Italian Wikipedias to be the first batch to use phase 2 of Wikidata (infoboxes). Scheduled timeframe for this is end of March
- d:Wikidata:Database reports has some useful reports like the list of most used properties
- The interwiki shortcut :d was changed to always use www in the resulting link (to prevent editing issues on other URLs).
- The list of available properties is growing and a whole bunch of new ones are being discussed
- Reasonator gives you a nice adapted view of an item about a person
- Items by cat helps you find missing items in a certain Wikipedia category
- A few more additions to d:Wikidata:Tools that you should have a look at if you’re editing statements
- We now have more than 2600 active users on Wikidata. Thanks for being awesome. <3
- Open Tasks for You
- Help bring the content of en:Wikipedia:Wikidata to the remaining Wikipedias that will get phase 1 on March 6
- Hack on one of these
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You proposed this for deletion, but it has already been proposed for deletion before. WP:PROD can only be used once, right? --Stefan2 (talk) 09:46, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
- You're right. I've redirected the page in question. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:54, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
MacDonald P. Jackson
Hi Stuart - I messed up the de-prod for this article somehow, so it is not showing on the NZ page. But I thought I would let you know that I managed to do some investigation and work on him. Jackson is a notable academic and easily crossed the threshold. You have to head into some fairly specialized websites to find much about him, but in his field he is considered an international expert. Keep up the good work. NealeFamily (talk) 08:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- Heh. I suspect that we have different ideas on the notability of academics, but it's certainly better than it was. BTW, you know I maintain one of those "fairly specialized websites", right? Stuartyeates (talk) 08:45, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- I must admit I hadn't read your cover page. The site is absolutely invaluable to me - good work. If you ever feel like a coffee ping me an email. NealeFamily (talk) 00:44, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed you made a delete !vote on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nellikunnu Muhyaddin Juma Masjid. The nominator has since withdrawn the deletion nomination, and yours is the only outstanding delete !vote. Please go over the discussion and if you agree that developments since you made your !vote now lean towards keeping the article, feel free to retract your !vote. This is completely optional, and you are more than welcome to stand firm behind your delete !vote. Cheers, —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:53, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #48
- Development
- More work on widget to add language links on the Wikipedias directly without having to go to Wikidata
- Bug fixes for Wikipedias, including:
- don't show edit link when noexternallanglinks magic word suppresses Wikidata links (bugzilla:45037)
- use Q## links instead of linking to Special:ItemByTitle for “edit links” link (bugzilla:44536)
- preference for showing Wikidata edits by default in watchlist (bugzilla:44973)
- Catching up on writing tests for untested functionality
- More work on the Lua support for accessing data from the repository (wikidata.org) on the Wikipedias
- Updated Wikidata’s Vagrant development machine
- Created initial QueryStore interface
- Created initial setup code for the SQL QueryStore
- Discussed and created initial schema for the SQL QueryStore
- Simplified code for client settings, including which namespaces can have Wikidata links. The default is now all namespaces, without needing to explicitly specify them in the settings
- Improved code for sorting interwiki links in the clients, with step towards allowing the communities to specify custom sort orders per Wikipedia
- Improved handling of deleted properties
- Further work on replacement for current search box
- More work on improving error reporting and edit summaries in the API
- Tim and Aaron killed the mystery bug that caused corrupt login tokens (bugzilla:41586)
- Discussions/Press
- Hacker News noticed we exist
- RFC about opting out of global sysops or not (more RFCs d:Wikidata:Requests for comment)
- Asked the Italian, Hebrew and Hungarian Wikipedias if they want to be the first to use phase 2 (will ask a few more to join the first batch later today)
- Events
- WMF Metrics and Activities meeting (recording is linked there)
- office hour in German
- upcoming: Bibliothek & Information
- upcoming: Wikidata trifft Achäologie
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- We’re now live on all Wikipedias with phase 1 \o/
- Deployed bugfixes and a new data type (string) to wikidata.org
- How will Wikidata impact Wikipedia?
- More useful database reports (more are being requested on the discussion page)
- Quite a few new properties that make use of the new string data type now and more are being proposed
- Lukas wants to work with us to improve usability
- New user scripts at d:Wikidata:Tools
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Nomination of Jenna Rose for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Jenna Rose is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenna Rose until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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You were involved in the discussion last time I submitted this article to AfD. I hope you may look at the current discussion and possibly contribute as well. Thanks Rogerthat94 (talk) 10:31, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: February 2013
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Nomination of Wesley College, University of Sydney for deletion
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Nomination of The Women's College, University of Sydney for deletion
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Your AIV report
My response:[1] ViridaeDON'T PANIC 08:39, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Biographical stubs from Dictionary of New Zealand Biography
Just a head's up, BunyipMan (talk · contribs) appears to have just bulk-CSD nominated a set of articles you creating using the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography as a source. I think there's enough there to invite a full discussion at WP:AfD, since the dictionary contains "Many of these people were included because detailed accounts of their lives were readily available, in archives, academic studies and official histories" (source), which suggests possible notability. However, I can't in good conscience see them getting in kept via an AfD with just a single source, so it might be worth having a look to see what else is out there relating to these subjects. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:27, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
New Zealand bios
Hi Stuart. A rash of your articles have been put up for speedy deletion today, under criterion A7. Most, if not all, of these are single-sentence stubs taken from the Te Ara Dictionary of New Zealand Biography entries, but an entry therein doesn't constitute an indication of significance, and given the brevity of the pages concerned, I'm having a hard time finding a good reason to decline the CSD tags - to take Samuel Henry Drew as a random example, nothing on that page suggests he was any more notable than, for example, me. If you'd mentioned his large collection of biological specimens, or his effective founding of the Wanganui Museum then that would at least have been the necessary claim to importance that A7 requires. Even then, I've severe doubts of that particular article's suitibility; having searched for additional sources to shore it up I've come to the conclusion that it wouldn't survive an AFD.
What I'm getting at is that if you're going to try and expand Wikipedia's biographical coverage of New Zealand - which is a worthy goal - please take the time to create articles that at least meet our most basic inclusion requirements. Two independent sources and some indication of importance is really all you need to provide, then you can carry on to the next one. As it is, I'm going to work through the listed articles now and deal with them on a case-by-case basis; if I can find an excuse to keep them I will, but a lot of them may well be gone in the next hour or so; for that, my apologies. Yunshui 雲水 14:27, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Would it not be simpler to bulk send the whole lot to AfD as a single nomination? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:40, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- I considered that on seeing your comment above, but given the sheer volume of pages in question, and the fact that each one would have to be separately assessed, I'm not sure AFD's the way forward. IMHO, it would make more sense to run them through CSD first and then follow up with AFD for those that need further discussion. That said, I'm now giving serious consideration to bulk-speedying the lot; not one that I've looked at so far makes a claim to importance, and although I just declined the speedy on Ranulph Dacre, it's taken me nearly twenty minutes to dig up one decent additional source. Yunshui 雲水 14:53, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Moot point: User:Vejvančický has blanket-removed all the CSD tags. Can't say that I agree with that course of action, but it saves me a bunch of work so I'm not going to complain. Nevertheless, AFD is definitely still on the cards for most if not all of these pages. Yunshui 雲水 14:58, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I caught Elsie Euphemia Andrews, though that was more a "we should have an AfD on this" than "this is notable" - on reflection, looking at the article in its current state, there is absolutely no indication of importance whatsoever. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:01, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Moot point: User:Vejvančický has blanket-removed all the CSD tags. Can't say that I agree with that course of action, but it saves me a bunch of work so I'm not going to complain. Nevertheless, AFD is definitely still on the cards for most if not all of these pages. Yunshui 雲水 14:58, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- I considered that on seeing your comment above, but given the sheer volume of pages in question, and the fact that each one would have to be separately assessed, I'm not sure AFD's the way forward. IMHO, it would make more sense to run them through CSD first and then follow up with AFD for those that need further discussion. That said, I'm now giving serious consideration to bulk-speedying the lot; not one that I've looked at so far makes a claim to importance, and although I just declined the speedy on Ranulph Dacre, it's taken me nearly twenty minutes to dig up one decent additional source. Yunshui 雲水 14:53, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
I came here to say that I was luckier, the ones I looked at were quickly sourceable. I'd appreciate it if you'd give time for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nellikunnu Muhyaddin Juma Masjid. I've left messages at en.wp Islam and ml.wp to try and get sources. It's just not conceivable that there aren't sources for a saint d.1962 with an active following, the problem is in the wild variations of English mispelling, saint-names and so on. Somewhere at the bottom is a real person who if we don't pin him down now will just come back as new badly translated articles later. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:29, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Stuart should be showered in barnstars for the work that he has done on the DNZB database. With the exception of maybe a dozen people, the 3,000 or so entries that the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography holds are there because of what us Wikipedians define as notability. It's incredibly valuable to have all these stubs sitting there, because if you are working on something and another notable New Zealander is involved, chances are that there's already an article to link to because of Stuart's good work. And if you look again at Samuel Henry Drew, who was referred to above, maybe you'll see how easy it is to add a few sentences to the article that demonstrate notability within the article. It's generally not hard to realise a person's notability if you look at their DNZB entry. For what it's worth, the DNZB bios are published under Creative Commons 3.0 N-C, and I have started a discussion with them whether they would consider revoking the non-commercial part of the licence, so that Wikipedia can make full use of the bio texts. Schwede66 16:29, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with Schwede, but it is sad to see that Stuart's articles still confuse others. I told him to be more careful here and here, in January 2012. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 17:01, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- I see two problems here. The first is, you really shouldn't base an article on a single source, though I appreciate for historical subjects, that can be problematic. The second is - where is the discussion where consensus has unambiguously shown that the DNZB can generally be trusted to establish notability of an article's subject? I have to say that the article on it stating it included "a range of ordinary people" concerns me a bit. Remember that AfD is a discussion first and foremost. Oh, I'm not adverse to rescuing stuff from CSD myself... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:11, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- The official website of the New Zealand Government claims that people listed in the DNZB "have helped shape our country", and it is apparent when I read DNZB entries. Moreover, their articles usually contain a list of other independent sources and external links. It is more important than what our imperfect article on DNZB says. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 17:24, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- I see two problems here. The first is, you really shouldn't base an article on a single source, though I appreciate for historical subjects, that can be problematic. The second is - where is the discussion where consensus has unambiguously shown that the DNZB can generally be trusted to establish notability of an article's subject? I have to say that the article on it stating it included "a range of ordinary people" concerns me a bit. Remember that AfD is a discussion first and foremost. Oh, I'm not adverse to rescuing stuff from CSD myself... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:11, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Response
A couple of points here.
- My creation of these stubs wasn't my own call. I merely continued the work I found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/NZ/Dictionary of New Zealand Biography where there was an existing consensus that these were notable. You'll notice that lists have substantial numbers of red lists, mainly from where I refrained from creation articles because I didn't think the subject was notable.
- I actively sought consensus (and followed it, even when I disagreed). See the long discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_New_Zealand/Archive_3#Wikipedia:WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_articles.2FNZ.2FDictionary_of_New_Zealand_Biography
- A number of these have already survived AfD, see the history of my talk page.
- I'm a little miffed at A7'ing of these articles without notifying me, but I'll cope. Not getting my way all the time is what consensus means.
- Most of the least obviously-notable people were added to the DNZB as part of an effort to avoid systematic bias in the 1980s / 1990s; cherry-picking the least notable out of our coverage is thus a Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias issue: most are women, non-white, lower class, etc (pick several descriptors for bonus points).
- I actively welcome feedback on how these stub creations could have been done in a way which avoided these issues.
cheers Stuartyeates (talk) 18:48, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Stuart, some of your points are correct and justified, but I have to remind you that several editors have complained and notified you about deficiencies in your articles in the past, mainly about insufficient explanation of notability of the subjects of your articles. You can see that the articles still confuse others and the insufficient explanation of importance is the main reason of this repeating situation (I mean mass CSD nominations). You should build your articles with better care and always explain properly why are those people important for NZ history also here on Wikipedia. Please, note that I speak as someone who repeatedly defended your articles; I do it because I believe your work is honest and beneficial to this project. Thanks for your understanding. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 07:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'd like to second Vejvančický's commendation of your work: I apologise sincerely if I gave the impression that I disapproved of your creation of these articles per se.
- You ask above for feedback on avoiding these issues in the future. The fundamental problem that I see here is that the stubs you are creating not only fail Wikipedia's basic notability requirements, they also for the most part don't offer any indication that the subjects are siginificant. To use the Samuel Henry Drew article as an example again, before Schwede66's excellent expansion of the page, all that was there was this - a two sentence paragraph that offers no explanation as to why Drew is any more worthy of note than other watchmakers and/or naturalists. Neither of these professions are inherently noteworthy, so there's nothing there to indicate that we ought to have a page about the man.
- In terms of avoiding the problem, you have two avenues of approach. One is to add information from the DNZB that indicates the significance of the subject - why they are more encyclopedia-worthy than their peers. I would say myself that just being included in the DNZB is not in itself a sufficient indicator, but others evidently disagree; there's a discussion to be had around that.
- The other, and to my mind preferable, approach is to add more sources. Notability on Wikipedia is (as you know) defined as "significant coverage in multiple reliable independent sources", so one additional source per article would suffice to meet that requirement.
- Once again, I'm not saying that we don't want or need articles on these people, nor that your efforts aren't appreciated - and I'm sorry if I gave a different impression. All I'm trying to point out is that the process will be smoother and less awkward if such articles are created with Wikipedia's inclusion requirements in mind. No-one's asking you to create a GA from scratch in a single edit, just that the pages you create pass the GNG or similar guidelines.
- (As a minor aside, it looks like User:BunyipMan has been blocked as a sockpuppet, so at least you have no more worries from that quarter). Yunshui 雲水 10:20, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- Stuart, some of your points are correct and justified, but I have to remind you that several editors have complained and notified you about deficiencies in your articles in the past, mainly about insufficient explanation of notability of the subjects of your articles. You can see that the articles still confuse others and the insufficient explanation of importance is the main reason of this repeating situation (I mean mass CSD nominations). You should build your articles with better care and always explain properly why are those people important for NZ history also here on Wikipedia. Please, note that I speak as someone who repeatedly defended your articles; I do it because I believe your work is honest and beneficial to this project. Thanks for your understanding. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 07:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Autopatrolled
Hi Stuart. Given the above issues I'm thinking it might be a good idea to remove the autopatrolled flag from your account, at least temporarily. This isn't intended as a comment on your editing (although I accept that it might come across as such), more a concern that if you're going to churn out large numbers of one-line, single-source stubs then it would benefit Wikipedia to have NPP check them and potentially expand them. I'd rather not simply revoke the flag unilaterally, though, so I'd like to hear your thoughts first. Cheers, Yunshui 雲水 15:06, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- My thoughts on your suggestion is that it is a rather ill-considered idea, and you should apologise that you even made it. Schwede66 16:39, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- To be honest revoking my autopatrolled flag won't bother me, particularly if you can point to a single article I've created in the last six years that has failed at AfD. Stuartyeates (talk) 18:55, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, if having articles AfDed is the criterion for having autopatroll rights revoked, I better put my hand up. Article number 14 that I created (of the well over 200 articles by now) has just been merged into a parent article because it didn't meet notability criteria, something that I wasn't aware of at the time, but I certainly supported the AfD when it got nominated. Schwede66 20:19, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Deletion or otherwise of articles isn't my concern here. My thinking is that short, potentially non-notable stubs which could be expanded warrant the attention of NPP, who can then add sources and/or expand the articles. If NPP is bypassed, no-one gets to look over these articles, meaning that they remain single sentence stubs. Aside from bragging rights, autopatrolled confers no actual benefit to the user that has it, so I don't see that removing it inconveniences you, and see no reason to apologise for suggesting it - my interest is in allowing such articles to be improved, not in removing userrights as any sort of punishment. However, I'm hoping that you'll take on board the suggestions made by Ritchie333, Vejvančický and myself in the sections above, and that such a removal of userrights won't be necessary anyway. Yunshui 雲水 10:28, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, if having articles AfDed is the criterion for having autopatroll rights revoked, I better put my hand up. Article number 14 that I created (of the well over 200 articles by now) has just been merged into a parent article because it didn't meet notability criteria, something that I wasn't aware of at the time, but I certainly supported the AfD when it got nominated. Schwede66 20:19, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- To be honest revoking my autopatrolled flag won't bother me, particularly if you can point to a single article I've created in the last six years that has failed at AfD. Stuartyeates (talk) 18:55, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Re: Ralph Hotere
Hi Stuartyeates - just a little heads-up about this edit. Yes, the obituary was published in the print edition of the Otago Daily Times - but it was written by Peter Entwisle, i.e., User:Peter Entwisle, who is the wikieditor who tried to add it into the article (he's a good writer, but isn't that savvy on how to expand Wikipedia articles). Since obits are written freelance, it will be Peter's copyright, so it's fine to add it in. However it does feel like a textdump leaving it in as is. I've put a few small scraps of it into the article, but anything else from it can be acceptably added in too. I've aleardy spoken to User:Gadfium about it (he also removed the text when Peter tried to re-add it to the article), so hopefully the situations all sorted out now. Grutness...wha? 23:50, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank You
Thank you for Welcoming me to Wikipedia --Jroxychix (talk) 15:27, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #49
- Development
- Design improvements to the SetClaim API module
- More work on implementing the simple inclusion syntax that will be 1 way to access Wikidata data on Wikipedia
- More work on Lua (the second way to access Wikidata data on Wikipedia)
- Added parser page property to hold entity id in client. This fixes:
- bugzilla:45037 - don’t show edit link if noexternallanglinks has suppressed all Wikidata links
- bugzilla:44536 - have the edit link go directly to the Q### pages, instead of Special:ItemByTitle which shall make the link be more reliable and work for all namespaces
- Selenium tests for deleted-property-handling
- Selenium tests for multiline references
- Selenium tests for add-sitelinks-from-client
- Selenium tests for Entity-Selector-as-Searchbox
- Selenium tests for language-table
- Implemented in-process caching for entities
- Lua support to access the repo data and implement getEntity (so you can use stuff like entity = mw.wikibase.getEntity("Q1459") in Lua modules)
- rebuildTermSearchKey is now ready for production (this still needs to be run but once done it will make search case-insensitive)
- Improved error reports from the API
- Ground work for better edit summaries from the API
- Added a table of content to item pages
- Added debug functionality to be able to investigate why it takes longer than it should for Wikidata changes to show up on recent changes and watchlists on Wikipedia
- Finished implementation of References-UI
- Implemented GUID generator in JavaScript
- Worked on fixing a bug related to deleted properties where the UI would display wrong information
- Minor fixes/additions to the JS datamodel implementation
- Minor bugfixes in Statements-UI
- More work on RDF export
- Discussions/Press
- Events
- Bibliothek und Information
- 3rd Media Web Symposium
- upcoming: Wikidata trifft Archäologie
- upcoming: SMWCon
- Log of latest office hour on IRC (in German)
- We’ll be at the Amsterdam Hackathon
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- New features/bugfixes on wikidata.org are planned for March 20
- Lua roll-out! You’ll be able to use it soon to access Wikidata data on Wikipedia. Here's two introductory blogposts: [2] [3]
- The new pope didn’t go unnoticed on Wikidata either
- Someone sent the dev team a cake! <3
- Want an easy way to add authority control data? Check this
- We crossed item ID 7000000
- We now have over 4000 active editors \o/
- Some more stats based on a database dump from end of February
- Reasonator got a few more goodies
- Did you know?
- If you add a Babel box to your user page Wikidata will show you items and descriptions in other languages you speak as well without you having to switch the language
- Want to know which items use a certain property? Try the “what links here” link on a property page
- Open Tasks for You
- Help translate m:Wikidata/Deployment Questions
- Hack on one of these
Wikidata weekly summary #50
- Development
- Rolled out new code on wikidata.org. The new stuff you probably care about is:
- Improved references. They can now have multiple lines. This should make references much more useful. You can now have one reference with for example values for each of the properties "book", "author", "page" to describe one source.
- Fixed the prev/next links in diff view (bugzilla:45821)
- d:Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel now lets you filter by language and entity type
- Widget to add language links on the Wikipedias directly: added setting to enable/disable it per wiki and made it available for logged-in users only
- Widget to add language links on the Wikipedias directly: improved layout / size
- Made it so that the “edit links” link on Wikipedia is also shown when the corresponding item only has a link to this one language and no other languages
- Submitted improved Apache config patch to make wikidata.org always redirect to www.wikidata.org, which is awaiting code review and deployment.
- Improved the script that is responsible for taking Wikidata changes to the Wikipedias
- Added a few ways to better debug the script responsible for taking Wikidata changes to the Wikipedias. This should help with investigating why some changes take way to long to show up on the Wikipedias.
- Started work on automatically adding edited items to the user’s watchlist (according to preferences)
- Finished script for rebuilding search keys, so we can finally get case insensitive matches in a lot of places
- Support for multi-line references in diff view
- Selenium tests for inclusion syntax
- Improved parser function (that will be used to access Wikidata data on the Wikipedias) to accept property ID or label
- Increased isolation of data model component to increase clarity and visibility of bad dependencies
- Worked on schema access in the SQLStore (of the query component)
- Rolled out new code on wikidata.org. The new stuff you probably care about is:
- Discussions/Press
- Events
- 3rd Media Web Symposium 2013
- Wikidata trifft Archäologie
- SMWCon Spring NYC
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Join us for the Amsterdam and Wikimania hackathon and Wikimania
- Too many items with the same label and no description? Terminator helps you hunt them all down and clean them up. Also check out the top 1000
- Interested in the distribution of books by genre on Wikidata and similar things? WikidataStats can help
- d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot needs input from more people
- Detailed list of bots
- Collecting information about creating a bot
- We’ve crossed Q8000000
- Did you know?
- When you edit a statement there is a little wheel in front of the text field. This lets you choose between “custom value”, “unknown value” and “no value”. “No value” means that we know that the given property has no value, e.g. Elizabeth I of England had no spouse. “Unknown value” means that the property has a value, but it is unknown which one -- e.g. Pope Linus most certainly had a year of birth, but it is unknown to us.
- Open Tasks for You
- Hack on one of these
- Still looking for the right way to contribute for you? Have a look at d:Wikidata:Contribute
You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:34, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Welcome to the Wikipedia Ambassador Program
Hi Stuartyeates!
Congratulations! Your application to join the Wikipedia Education Program as an Online Ambassador has been accepted. We are honored to welcome you the Ambassador team.
The information below is provided to ensure that your new role as an Online Ambassador is a successful one. There are tasks listed, as well as reading material. Please make sure to complete the actions presented below, as quickly as possible.
The Wikipedia Education Program is a relatively new program that is continuing to experience change and transition. Our goal is to be better than we were yesterday. For this reason, please remember to check the education noticeboard often. If you have any questions, please contact myself or one of your fellow Ambassadors.
- Please complete the following, as soon as possible
- Create your Online Ambassador profile.
- If that page is not accessible to you, it means you don't have the online volunteer user right yet. Request it here.
- Leave "Publicly list me as Online Ambassador" checked to have your profile appear in the list of active Online Ambassadors.
- Read and review the Wikipedia Ambassadors Principles;
- If you haven't done so, browse the training for Ambassadors.
- Much of the training material is primarily intended for new Campus Ambassadors who are not experienced Wikipedians. But this introductory material is also used in the training for students and instructors, so you may want to go through it to familiarize yourself with what those users will have seen.
- If you see ways to improve the training, please edit it!
- Browse the list of current courses, and add yourself as an Online Ambassador on the course page for any you would like to help with.
- Be sure to introduce yourself to each instructor to let her/him know you've volunteered.
- Sign up for the Wikipedia Ambassador Program announcements email list.
- This is a very low traffic list for major announcements related to the Wikipedia Education Program program.
Support Structure
Online Ambassadors serve as a vital link in the Wikipedia Education Program, assisting new student editors transition into the Wikipedia editing community. They serve in a leadership role alongside the course instructor; local Campus Ambassador(s), who work with the class in person; and the Regional Ambassador, who checks in periodically with the course to make sure everything is going well. Together, the instructor, Campus Ambassador, Regional Ambassador, and Online Ambassador encompass the course "pod".
The pod is the term we use to refer to the group of individuals that work together to help the students in a particular course successfully contribute to Wikipedia. A prototypical pod might look something like this:
- A professor or course instructor who is fairly new to Wikipedia, leading a class of 20–30 students, who have been assigned to make significant contributions to new or existing articles related to the course subject.
- Two Campus Ambassadors, one of whom is an experienced Wikipedian and one of whom is new to the encyclopedia. The Campus Ambassadors are provided with training to learn the basic policies and guidelines of Wikipedia and how to help students contribute effectively.
- Two Online Ambassadors, one of whom is a moderately experienced Wikipedian, while the other is very experienced. Both have knowledge of community policies and guidelines and are available to provide editing guidance, answer questions, and assistance navigating the community. When needed, Online Ambassadors are also available for one-on-one mentorship.
- One Regional Ambassador, a moderately experienced Wikipedian who coordinates assistance and support for universities and courses based on a large geographical region.
Role and Responsibilities
The list of the responsibilities of the Online Ambassador are presented in the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU). In essence, the role of the Online Ambassador includes:
- Helping students in your class(es) when they ask for it and answer their questions;
- Serve as a liaison between the professor/student and the community;
- In general, keep an eye out for the students and professors and help them navigate the community;
- Helping students get feedback on their work (whether from you or other editors with an interest in or knowledge of the subject area)
- Be a good example for students, modeling good faith communication and editing practices; and
- Communicating regularly with the other members of your pod regarding the progress of the student, along with any issues that come up.
Online Ambassadors can also assist students that are outside of their pod. Generally, Online Ambassadors represent the Ambassador Program and provide assistance for students whenever encountered. While feedback on the style and formatting of student articles is essential, assistance may also be needed to review the articles substance and content. When needed, the Online Ambassador may request the assistance of WikiProjects that focus on technical issues presented in student articles.
Communication Channels
There are three main places for news, updates, and discussion about Wikipedia Ambassadors and the Wikipedia Education Program:
- Wikipedia:Education noticeboard
- The Wikipedia Ambassador Program announcements list. This is a low-traffic email list that is used for significant announcements that are relevant to the whole program. Please sign up as soon as you get a chance.
- Internet Relay Chat (IRC). If you use IRC, please consider adding #wikipedia-en-ambassadors to your channel lineup.
Future communication tools are being developed. Newsletters about the program or messages for Online Ambassadors may occasionally be delivered to your talk page. If you have any questions, please let me know.
Again, welcome to the Ambassador team! We look forward to working with you!
--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 13:30, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
Greetings. I replied at Wikipedia:ENB#Special_pages_are_opaque, FYI. Best wishes. Biosthmors (talk) 19:20, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #51
- Development
- The first 11 Wikipedias can now include data from Wikidata in their articles (If you want to see it in action see the infobox at it:Torino)
- Worked on automatic summaries for statements
- Worked on making properties accessible from the client using their label so you can use {{#property:executive director}} instead of {{#property:p169}} for example
- Made qualifiers ready for the next deployment (Please test. See details further down.)
- Selenium tests for qualifiers
- Fixed some issues related to QUnit testing
- Worked on improved handling and code design of multiple snak lists in the UI (qualifiers, references)
- Discussions/Press
- Denny wrote down how we’re planning to support queries on Wikidata. Feedback welcome.
- Proposal for a vandalism policy
- Now that improvements for references have been deployed here’s a discussion on the best way to use them. (You can see an example of how it could be used in the source for “CAS registry number” on d:Q153)
- Should Wikidata have featured items?
- RFC about restricting the ability to create properties to some users
- Heise.de reporting about deployment of phase 2 on the first 11 Wikipedias
- Report about a collaboration event between Wikipedians and archeologists
- Events
- Newline 2013
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- We’re currently carefully monitoring performance after the deployment of phase 2 on the first 11 Wikipedias. There seem to be a few small issues. As soon as they are resolved we'll deploy on English Wikipedia. All other Wikipedias are planned to follow very soon after that.
- Bye and a big thank you to Anja, Silke, Jens and John who are leaving the development team at the end of the month and will work on other cool things. You’ll be missed!
- Ever had any doubt about the possibilities of Wikidata? Talk to Wiri!
- We worked on reducing the time it takes for Wikidata edits to show up in the Wikipedias and made some progress. Daniel posted an analysis
- We started running a script on the database in order to make search on Wikidata case-insensitive. This should be finished in a few days and then search should be more useful.
- In addition to the above we have rolled out a new search box that suggests items. This should also make finding things on Wikidata a lot easier for you.
- We’re making some progress with Internet Explorer 8 support but there are a lot of issues with it (some outside our control). It’s unclear at the moment how much we can improve it still without spending an unjustified amount of time on it. You can follow the progress at bugzilla:44228
- Edits are now auto-confirmed for users with more than 50 edits and account age 4 days: bugzilla:46461
- Do you need old-style interwiki links for a sister project for example? This is for you
- The Wikimedia Foundation applied as a mentoring organisation for Google Summer of Code again. We have proposed some Wikidata projects for students to take up if the Foundation is accepted again. At least 2 other organisations that applied also propose Wikidata ideas. More details on that once we know which organisations are accepted.
- Denny hacked together a tree of life based on data from Wikidata
- Wikidata was added to wikipulse
- A template to retrieve data from Wikidata if no local value is set
- Did you know?
- If you need to merge two items d:Help:Merge explains how
- Open Tasks for You
- See note at the end of this weekly summary
- Help test qualifiers (m:Wikidata/Notes/Data model primer#Qualifiers - see also example statements there) on the test wiki so we can roll it out with the next release
- Did you file a bug report for Wikidata or did someone else do it for you? Please take a minute to check if it is still valid. (Thanks for filing it btw!)
- Add some missing descriptions to those items with the same label?
- Hack on one of these
Could I have 2 mins of your time? As I’ll be working on some other projects for Wikimedia Germany as well from now on the time I can spend on Wikidata will be reduced. This means I’ll have to figure out what is useful to spend time on. If you’re reading this could you let me know for example on this discussion page? Also if you have ideas how to improve the weekly summaries please post them. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk)
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Questions about references
Stuart, I have added some various 3rd party references for my scratch page about the germania singing and sport society, I was curious if you could look them over and let me know if I was heading in the right direction? I've helped edit in the past, but never created a page from scratch, so I'm still very new to this. I've been reading the Wiki guide for new users and while I have gotten through much of it, I still have a ways to go before becoming Wiki adept. ANy advice or guidance is appreciated. Thank you
Sean
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Germania_Singing_and_Sport_Society
Sobriant74 (talk) 13:41, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello Sobriant74. For the purposes of WP:GNG we're not looking for passing mentions, entries in events databases or content apparently written by those associated with the subject. We're looking for long-form professional journalism with evidence of independent research or adversarial debate. These are still lacking from the article. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
University of Canterbury
Hi there, I see that you've removed unreferenced bits of the University of Canterbury article, and in case you haven't got the article on your watchlist, one of your edits got reversed by User:Flags33. The same kind of information got added to the Canterbury Province article by the same user yesterday, and I've left a message on the talk page requesting a reference. Maybe that's a useful way of moving forward. Schwede66 18:10, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Alex Galvin
Hi There, Would you reconsider your merge and redirect recommendation for this article and replace them with a "Keep"? Alternativley the article could be tagged at this stage. I think that I have answered all or most of the objections in the deletion log. I have also contacted the nominator and put these points but have received no response.Rick570 (talk) 02:49, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- To me there just doesn't appear to be the coverage. Sorry. Stuartyeates (talk) 03:25, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Nomination of Benjamin Wong Tape for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Benjamin Wong Tape is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benjamin Wong Tape until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Sorry for the PROD on the page. I didn't realize there was consensus within Wikipedia:WikiProject_New_Zealand that people with DNZB entries are notable. However, I still do not think this meets notability requirements because there is only one source and no other mentions besides a small footnote in a book. Earlopogous 20:25, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #52
- Development
- The first year is over. Thank you everyone for being amazing and helping to build Wikidata and making it more than we could possibly have hoped for already. <3
- Put a lot of work into improved support for Internet Explorer 8
- Worked on improving recent changes code in client
- Finished valueview refactoring. Created new extension “ValueView”
- Implemented string formatter
- Discussions/Press
- Events
- upcoming: GLAM-Wiki 2013
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Deployment of phase 2 on English Wikipedia is currently planned for April 8. The remaining Wikipedias are scheduled for April 10. As usual this might change if we run into problems along the way.
- There is now a page showing the current lag for changes propagating to the Wikipedias so they can show up in watchlists and recent changes for example. This should ideally be in the range of a few minutes. Right now it is higher because of some abnormally high bot activity but decreasing. Should be down to a few minutes soon.
- There’s now a badge you can add to Wikipedia articles to indicate there is data about it on Wikidata
- We hit Q10000000
- A Wikidata item in the wild ;-)
- Did you know?
- There are a number of task forces that take care of specific jobs or topics on Wikidata
- You can get database dumps to play with
- There are a lot of stats about Wikidata on http://stats.wikimedia.org
- Open Tasks for You
- Hit a random item and add a missing source?
- Hack on one of these
Based on feedback for last week’s call for comments we will continue this newsletter. However more community help will be needed. From now on they’ll be drafted at d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next and your help is very welcome.
John Moulton
In reference to the deleted article John Moulton (medical practitioner) I'm wondering if you might reconsider your opposition to this article. I have recently read WP:NRU and feel that it conclusively proves Moulton's notability for inclusion in Wikipedia. I hope you will agree and assist me in it being reinstated. As the team doctor he was an administrator of a "High Performance Union" for a long period and also at the time of winning the Rugby World Cup so he is clearly deemed notable by current standards. Castlemate (talk) 04:18, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- (a) Nothing 'proves' anything on wikipedia, since everything is done by consensus. (b) The article has been deleted and I can't see it, so I'm not going to comment on it. (c) If you're serious about raising it from the dead, I suggest that you ask for a userfication of deleted article and ask for help. (d) Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Notability criteria applies to players, was he a player? Stuartyeates (talk) 06:08, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: March 2013
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Second Twentieth Battalion
Thank you for your comments re my article on the 2/20 Battalion AIF, I have adjusted the opening paragraph so it is more obvious that the 2/20th raised in WWII is a different battalion from the 20th Battalion of WWI... the 2/20 was named after the 20th, even had the same colour patch, but they were different men fighting in a different war. I hope my new opening makes that clearer. Thanks for drawing it to my attentionSecondtwonought (talk) 21:15, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #53
- Development
- Got some external professional review of our code and architecture and started working on their feedback
- Worked on reducing the dispatch lag (the time it takes for changes on Wikidata to be sent to the Wikipedias for display in watchlist, recent changes and to purge affected pages)
- Worked on using Redis for job queue to improve the lag situation even further
- Created new Wikibase Query extension for phase 3 functionality
- Autocomments & Autosummaries for SetClaim module
- Worked on the GeoCoordinate parser
- Events/Press
- right now: GLAM-WIKI 2013
- Discussions
- The RFC about bureaucrats was closed
- RfC about policy for translation admins
- We need feedback from contributors working on references addition or having tried to add references to statements. Please comment about your problems or your trials at d:Help:Sources
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Deployment of phase 2 on the remaining Wikipedias was delayed because of a high lag of changes being propagated to the Wikipedias. The lag has been reduced considerably now and is going down even more. The new date for deployment will not be next week because there are other large changes on Wikimedia infrastructure scheduled that we do not want to interfere with. It will hopefully happen very soon after that though.
- Next code update on wikidata.org is planned for Wednesday. This should include qualifiers and bugfixes.
- There will probably be a short outage/read-only for wikidata.org on Tuesday (database is being switched to MariaDB)
- If you're a student and interested in coding on Wikidata consider applying for Google Summer of Code.
- There is a new user right: property creators
- There is now a page to request deletion of a property
- We now have Bureaucrats
- Reasonator was improved and extended (1 2)
- Open Tasks for You
- Hack on one of these
- Help draft the next weekly summary
Based on feedback for last week’s call for comments we will continue this newsletter. However more community help will be needed. From now on they’ll be drafted at d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next and your help is very welcome.
Wikidata weekly summary #54
- Development
- Dispatch lag is now down to 0 so changes should show up very quickly on the Wikipedias in watchlists and recent changes
- wikidata.org now always redirects to www.wikidata.org. This should among other things solve the issue where people were not able to edit when on wikidata.org (bugzilla:45005)
- Fixed weird blocked-user/protected-page handling in UI (bugzilla:45140)
- Final meetings for the external professional review of our code and architecture. They were quite happy with the quality of the codebase and gave useful tips for improvements
- Worked on automatic summaries for editing claims
- Investigation of different JavaScript frameworks dealing with date and time
- Worked on using Redis and the job queue for change notifications to clients
- Work on the storage code for answering queries
- Events/Press
- GLAM-WIKI 2013
- upcoming: office hour on IRC about sources
- upcoming: Opensource Treffen
- upcoming: intro to Wikidata at the British Library
- Discussions
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Deployment of phase 2 (infoboxes) on English Wikipedia is planned for April 22. All remaining Wikipedias are planned for April 24.
- Qualifiers are available now. In the same update several bugs have been fixed mainly related to Internet Explorer 8. At the same time search has been made case-insensitive. More details here.
- d:Wikidata:Notability has been completely rewritten
- Cool task force page: d:Wikidata:Video games task force
- List of Wikipedia articles that still have language links in the wiki text
- Open Tasks for You
- Hack on one of these
Proposed deletion
I have concerns over your proposed deletion tagging of articles. Proposed deletion, as explained in the WP:PROD page is "a way to suggest an article for uncontroversial deletion". Many of the articles that you have recently tagged are clearly not uncontroversial deletion candidates, and as you have in some cases nominated several articles within the space of a minute, this suggests that you are not looking at them closely enough. In particular, please see the 'Before nomination' section and the instruction "Be sure you have a valid reason for deletion. Consider alternatives to deletion like merging or redirecting". I would also request that you at least undertake a Google search to see if there are sources available which could be used to address a lack of sources in the article, given that this has in many cases been you reason for deletion. Thanks. --Michig (talk) 10:01, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
more precise explanation is strongly required
Dear Stuartyeates,
Some days ago you put the tag {{Confusing}} on top of the new article Autowave reverberator. You are strongly encouraged to use the "reason=" parameter to explain what is confusing for you, as it is recommended by Wiki-rules. If you have no reason, you should not confuse readers about confusing article.
Please, note also that marking sections or entire articles is undesirable.
However, I would not like to insist that the current version of the article is irreproachable, because the translation of the article was performed by me, and my skills in English is not excellent.
Hence, we, you and I, might in couple edit the English version of the discussed article in order to make the article better, - if you will be able to explain clearly the problems, by which you are confused, and then I try to explain more clearly the correct meaning of the confusing parts.
In other way, the tag {{Confusing}} should be removed.
Thank you for your kind consideration. --Andy Quarry (talk) 17:46, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #55
- Development
- Started working on support for the Time data type in the frontend (editing/displaying of time values)
- Fixed copyright tooltip’s issues where it was not possible to dismiss it
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- Work on dispatching changes to Wikipedias via the redis job queue
- Introducing core hooks to allow us to avoid page re-rendering when language links are changed
- Implemented automatic comments for setClaim (adding/setting claim, adding/removing/changing qualifiers)
- Investigated issue where edit conflicts are detected in error
- Fixed wrong revision shown in history-view
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- A lot of articles about the deployment of phase 2 on all Wikipedias among them: Wikipedia-Datenfundus Wikidata geht in den Regelbetrieb, Wikidata goes live worldwide, Wikidata-revolutionen är här: Möjliggör strukturerade data på Wikipedia
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The former text of the article Anatolii Alexeevitch Karatsuba (about one Russian mathematician) sutisfies to all Wikipedia requirement. This is an article about one of the best Russian mathematicians ever who invented first fast multiplication algorithm inplemented at present almost in all computers. He had a lot of other top level mathresults in number theory and some other fields. The article is well sourced. However SteveJ (administrotir) deleted the article and put his own text with one line which downplay the A.A. Karatsuba results only because of the reason that it doesn't correspond to his own view. Other administrators protected StevenJ variant (do not let us to revert our text) and wrote that we (who edited the text about A.A. Karatsuba) must come to consensus with Stevenj. However, he do not want any consensus on any conditions excluding his own text in three lines, one of them is very offensive for A.A. Karatsuba (everybody who knows about real facts can confirm it). What to do? Our discussion with him turned out to absurd because he pretends he does not see our sources (published by Springer papers in mathjournals), but as his sources quoted words of "notalble people" (by his opinion) but not publications. In his mathematical discussion he also plays unhonest game. He stated there is certain information in certain source, but when I read it, I didn't find this information there. It's only interpretation by Stevenj. Another unhonest way for mathdiscussion "to mix results", he speaks about DFT but not about FFT in such a way like this is the same. It's possible to continue such useless discussions unlimetly long preventing to revert the good text about A.A. Karatsuba.
We agree (see Talk page Anatolii Alexeevitch Karatsuba) to delete such claims in this article which very annoyed Stevenj (although they are right, and all explanations have been made to Stevenj, he rejected them bacause it doesn't correspond to some other Wikipedia texts which Stevenj created himself!). So we tried to state such a consensus deleting what Stevenj stated as "exaggerated claims". However, it is not enough for him. He simple don't want that any good text about A.A. Karatsuba would be. I will not mention "double standards": I edited some other Wikipedia texts about American mathematicians and never had problems like that with this paper about Russian mathematician.
What to do? How to block unhonest game of StevenJ? It has no any relation to Wikip[edia rules etc. It has relation only to the character of this person. Some time ago another editor of A.A. Karatsuba article had sharp discussion with Stevenj, so, as I believe, he decided to revenge.
I repeat, this article correponds to all Wikipedia rules including the sourcing and notability guidelines. What to do in such situation?Mathtruth (talk) 10:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
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A favor -Environmental law articles ready for preliminary review
Hi Stuartyeates. I see that you're an online ambassador. I'm the Professor for Aaron Frank's environmental law class, and while you're not signed up for my course, I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a look at any or all of the articles my students are working on. One of the aspects of this sort of course is that students understand that they are putting their work out before the wikipedia community for review. In the past, there hasn't been that much activity on their pages as they were working on them. I was hoping that if you were willing, you could take a look. If not, no problem.
The students now have draft articles in mainspace and are starting to review each other's articles, and they could also use a preliminary review by an experienced Wikipedian in this area. If you get a chance, ideally sometime before Thursday or so, please take a look at the following list of articles and leave feedback on the talk page:
- Federal exemptions for hydraulic fracturing
- Storm King Mountain: Consolidated Edison v. Scenic Hudson Preservation Conference
- Tennessee Valley Authority v. Hill
- American Electric Power Company v. Connecticut
- Sierra Club v. Babbitt
- Los Angeles County Flood Control District v. NRDC
- Hazardous Materials Transportation Act
Thank you! Aarf613 (talk) 17:14, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
I fully agree with Berstabit and NU DOE and User:Nemont, thank you to ElKevbo for finally deleting the Controversy section from the page, our prestigious university doesn't deserve these attacks on our reputation. President Obama and Steve Forbes have both declared Neumont is the best computer science program in the United States. We are not a sham. Lymani (talk) 07:04, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks so much for reviewing the Environmental Law articles. Your suggestions and tags were very effective at giving the students some perspective from a wikipeidian and letting them know that others are reading their work! Aarf613 (talk) 00:41, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
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Wikidata weekly summary #56
- Development
- Worked with students on their Google Summer of Code proposals
- Worked on time data type editing in the frontend
- Worked on improving the DataTypes system
- Working on better Continuous Integration strategy
- Moving Selenium tests to Cloudbees & Saucelabs
- Catching up with Selenium tests
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- Bugfixes were deployed on wikidata.org. The ones you probably care about are:
- when clicking "edit links" on a Wikipedia article the user is automatically taken to the language links part of the item. Hopefully it is now more obvious how to change the links.
- fixed a few cases where edit conflicts where detected in error
- added automatic edit summaries for adding qualifiers and claims
- fixed wrong revision being shown in div history
- Translators can now sign up to receive translation notifications at d:Special:TranslatorSignup
- Visual query interface for Wikidata
- 3 Wikimania submissions that could use your vote at the bottom: State of Wikidata, The Technology Behind Wikidata, Ask Us Anything About Wikidata
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Sexual cannibalism article
Hello, Stuartyeates. Regarding this edit, the Sexual cannibalism article has a WP:LEAD. Flyer22 (talk) 00:48, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- If that's a lead, then your standards for leads are very low. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:19, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- Stuartyeates, I don't understand the attitude. I know how to write leads, and how to write WP:GAs and what it takes to write WP:FAs. And I'm the one who, yesterday (going by real time, not just Wikipedia time), mentioned at the Wikipedia:Education noticeboard that the Sexual cannibalism article needs cleanup. I was simply noting here at your talk page that you tagged that article as needing a lead. The tag you used is for articles that don't have leads, not for articles that have bad leads. We don't have a "bad lead" tag (yet anyway). Someone is bound to remove the tag you added, and I thought you'd added it by accident. Since you didn't, don't mind me. I didn't mean any offense by this post on your talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 01:57, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #57
- Development
- Implemented basic editing of Time values
- Worked on advanced editing of Time values (having a preview, defining precision and calendar model while editing the value)
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