User talk:StepanovVasya

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GOST ciphers

Добрый день. Если вы хотите описать шифр из нового ГОСТа, пожалуйста, используйте официальное английское название "Kuznyechik", потому что так предписано в тексте самого стандарта и в RFC. Не используйте буквальный перевод "Grasshopper", потому что он является жаргонизмом. Такое название не используется ни в одном официальном документе. Также текст страницы должен быть написан на читаемом английском, а не в гуглопереводе. К примеру, хорошим (и официальным) анлоязычным описанием Кузнечика является RFC 7801. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheInevitable (talk • contribs) 10:05, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

оффициально везде Grasshopper скачайте оффициальный документ на английском увидите Grasshopper https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6BlkqAoxXq1LTgzMFFBekRFQWM/view?pref=2&pli=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.71.243.131 (talk) 13:54, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Translation of the comment above into English: Hi. If you want to describe the cipher from the new GOST, please use the official English name "Kuznyechik", because this English name is mandated in the text of the standard and in the RFC. The literal translation "Grasshopper" is a slang name which is not used in any official documents. Also the current page is not comprehensible and looks like a google translation. For an official description of the cipher in English one can look up RFC 7801.) TheInevitable (talk) 12:27, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rijndael--> AES Advanced Encryption Standard. Kuznyechik--> Grasshopper StepanovVasya (talk) 13:39, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@StepanovVasya: Any proof of that? The standard itself says on page 4: The cipher with block length of n = 128 bits, specified in this Standard, may be referred to as Kuznyechik block cipher.^[1] The same name is given in the cipher presentation on page 8.^[2], in RFC 7801^[3] and in all independent cryptanalysis papers I could find.^[4]^[5]^[6] These are six references supporting the name Kuznyechik. The only source using the name Grasshopper is a personal blog article which was written when the standard was still a draft and did not yet have an official name.^[7] TheInevitable (talk) 13:53, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Читайте внимательно этот оффициальный документ Федеральное Агенство по Стандартизации чётко всё написано, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6BlkqAoxXq1LTgzMFFBekRFQWM/view?pref=2&pli=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by StepanovVasya (talk • contribs)

@StepanovVasya: This document presents the Russian Federation project for a new bloc encryption standard. It is a preliminary version which has not been validated or approved by the Russian Federation yet. Это не официальный текст стандарта, это предварительный и не проверенный перевод драфта. В окончательном тексте стандарта, ссылку на который я привёл ниже, Grasshopper не используется. (Translation: This document is just a preliminary translation of the draft standard. In the approved final text of the standard linked in my comment below name Grasshopper is not used.) TheInevitable (talk) 14:00, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://tc26.ru/en/standard/gost/GOST_R_34_12_2015_ENG.pdf National Standard of the Russian Federation GOST R 34.12–2015 (English Version)
^ https://mjos.fi/doc/rus/gh_ctcrypt.pdf Low-Weight and Hi-End: Draft Russian Encryption Standard
^ https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7801 GOST R 34.12-2015: Block Cipher Kuznyechik
^ "A Meet in the Middle Attack on Reduced Round Kuznyechik" (PDF). 2015-04-17. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help); Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)
^ "Reverse-Engineering the S-Box of Streebog, Kuznyechik and STRIBOBr1 (Full Version)" (PDF). 2016-02-18. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help); Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)
^ "Fault Analysis of Kuznyechik" (PDF). 2015-04-17. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help); Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)
^ http://cvo-lab.blogspot.ru/2015/01/the-new-gost-standard-from-russian.html The New GOST Standard from the Russian Federation: GOST Grasshopper

Language on talk pages

I noticed that you have posted comments to the page Talk:Grasshopper (block cipher) in a language other than English. At the English-language Wikipedia, we try to use English for all comments. Posting all comments in English makes it easier for other editors to join the conversation and help you. If you cannot avoid using another language, then please provide a translation into English, if you can. For more details, see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. -- intgr [talk] 09:22, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://tc26.ru/en/standard/gost/GOST_R_34_12_2015_ENG.pdf National Standard of the Russian Federation GOST R 34.12–2015 (English Version)

[2] ttps://mjos.fi/doc/rus/gh_ctcrypt.pdf Low-Weight and Hi-End: Draft Russian Encryption Standard

[3] ttps://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7801 GOST R 34.12-2015: Block Cipher Kuznyechik

[mitm-4] "A Meet in the Middle Attack on Reduced Round Kuznyechik" (PDF). 2015-04-17. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help); Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)

[5] "Reverse-Engineering the S-Box of Streebog, Kuznyechik and STRIBOBr1 (Full Version)" (PDF). 2016-02-18. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help); Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)

[6] "Fault Analysis of Kuznyechik" (PDF). 2015-04-17. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help); Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)

[7] ttp://cvo-lab.blogspot.ru/2015/01/the-new-gost-standard-from-russian.html The New GOST Standard from the Russian Federation: GOST Grasshopper

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