User talk:Starling0616

File copyright problem with File:CarolTarra2004.jpg

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File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Tarra- tire-store1974-300x206.jpg

File Copyright problem

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Photos

You can't keep adding the same photo without saying a) where you got it from and b) what the copyright status is. That's all you need to add to the photo and the problems go away. But without that information it will just get deleted each time you upload it. If it's a scan of a photo you took then you own the copyright and you just need to say so. If some one else owns the copyright then either their permisison is needed or a claim for fair but non free use has to be made. If you need a hand to do any of this just ask but please don't ignore the notice or you will keep feeling frustrated that the image is being deleted. NtheP (talk) 21:30, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replaceable fair use File:2004CarolTarra.jpg

Thanks for uploading File:2004CarolTarra.jpg. I noticed the description page specifies that the media is being used under a claim of fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first non-free content criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed media could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information or which could be adequately covered with text alone. If you believe this media is not replaceable, please remove the tag.

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Please talk to us - we want to help

Starling, why have you tagged a section of your own work as a copyright violation? have you read the possible consequences of using copyrighted material? Also yet another photgraph is up for deletion due to licencing. If you would discuss/respond to some of the notices posted here we can help you to sort these issues out. Either leave a message here or on my talk page and things can be straightened out. NtheP (talk) 16:54, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is my first Article so I guess I am making all the newbee mistakes. 1. I have contacted the subject of this article and she sent me 3 images which have no copyright. She said they can be used freely. I want to use those three images instead of the image in question. Can I just upload the new images. Would you like me to send you the email she sent me? would you like her to email you directly?

2. Someone at Wikipedia has run a dupicator program on my article and come up with 7 occurances of copied code. I have fixed the first 2 incidences. The last 5 are as follows:

--"tilbury house publishers" Tilbury house publishers published two of Buckley's books. I have put the publisher in 'quotes'. Is that ok?

--"http www elephants com" is a url. I cannot find it in the text of what I wrote but it is a url.

--"around the world" while the phrase is insipid, I am not sure that anyone can be accused of originating or plagerizing the phrase. And my use of this insipid phrase is intirely different from the use of the phrase that appeared in a source.

--travels with tarra july aug 2002 I don't think I used this phrase in the article. Perhaps my sources used it but I cannot change what they write can I?

--and my favorite: "only roller skating elephant" I have changed the phrase to the "world's only elephant who can roller skate". I think that phrase is clumbsy. On the edge of bring obnoxious, I guess I could put only roller skating giraff, or only surfing elephant.

Thanks for doing this proofing. I know it is a very difficult job.

Starling

Starling, let's start with the image files, File:2004CarolTarra.jpg, is this a photo that you have explicit permission from Carol to use and have written or email confirmation of this? If so check it includes the information listed at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission then forward that email to "permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org" Then add this code to the image file

{{Information | description = Carol Buckley with Tarra | source = http://www.carolbuckley.com/images/indexCarol.jpg | date = 2004 | author = Carol Buckley | permission = {{OTRS pending}} }}

What this achieves is a) indicating that permission to use the photo is being investigated and b) that you have sent the permission email through to the wikimedia foundation for verification. A volunteer will check the permission and if it is in order they will change the photo information to indicate that everything is ok.

I'll have a look at the text stuff later and get back to you. NtheP (talk) 18:39, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have placed the copyvio notice yourslef - who told you there were 7 instances of copied code. The website quoted in the notice i.e. http://www.forewordreviews.com/reviews/travels-with-tarra/ doesn't seem to bear much resemblance to what you wrote - same subject that's about it. If someone has told you there are copyright violations I think they are being a bit harsh - as you say there aren't that many ways you can write "world's only roller skating elephant". Perhaps it's something that a good copy edit can resolve. NtheP (talk) 18:53, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the duplication detector report [1] The problem is with the first phrase ("as Tara grew older ...")and the second one ("this would not be a zoo ..."). That entire paragraph is basically directly copied from the source. The other five hits can be ignored, you do not need to fix them. However, if there are any other sentences you have copied directly from other websites you also need to fix those. Yoenit (talk) 19:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nthep

I do not have express permission to use the file 2004CarolTarra.jpg. However I do have email permission - well she sent me the file, Carol with Jenny and Shirley high res.jpg which I did upload. I will upload the other 2 images and then send the email to the Wikipeople with the specifications you outlined above.

Starling, ok - but make sure the email you get from Carol has the necessary information in it. NtheP (talk) 20:44, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yoenit

The first paragraph has been changed entirely. I meant to come back to that because I didn't know that part of Buckley's life well, but as happens I forgot all about it. I put the changed paragraph, after the copyright complaint between [[]]'s.

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File permission problem with File:CarolandBhadra 016.JPG

Thanks for uploading File:CarolandBhadra 016.JPG, which you've sourced to Carol Buckley sent this photo to Starling Walter. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file agreed to license it under the given license.

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RonhJones

I sent 2 emails 6 hours ago to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. The emails are from Carol Buckley sending me the photos to use. The photo is attached to the email. The photo was never used in any of her writings. That is why she sent it to me to use.

I put OTRS pending in the file descriptions of the photos entitled: File:Carol with Jenny and Shirley high res.jpg and CarolandBhadra 016.JPG

What haven't I done that I haven't done?

Starling, it's ok, the OTRS takes a bit of time to process. While they're pending the files are safe from deletion. NtheP (talk) 16:33, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nthep

Carol will answer you if you want to email her about the pictures.

Starling, judging from the below Carol didn't say what you needed her to say. The permission has to be for free unlimited use anywhere not just on wikipedia. If she will grant such permission you need another email from her to that effect to sent to OTRS. NtheP (talk) 18:24, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Carol with Jenny and Shirley high res.jpg listed for deletion

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File:Carol and Tarra little house on the prarie.jpg listed for deletion

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File:CarolandBhadra 016.JPG listed for deletion

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File:2004CarolTarra.jpg listed for deletion

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Tom Morris

Thanks for deleting the all of the images. Carol is not comfortable with giving images that others can use for commercial purposes. I think they are wonderful pictures but I am still learning about copyrights.

Question about Text Quotes

I would like to expand a Wikipedia Bio article using many quotes from the subject. The direct quotes are owned by the subject and available on her blog. The quotes illustrate the subject's powers of insight and persuasion, as well as her ability to elicit emotional responces from the reader, far better than mere analysis could ever do. So my questions are: May I use quotes without changing her copyright of the quoted material? Why don't other articles, like the bio on Winston Churchill or Oscar Wilde, use more quotes?

Thanks Starling0616 (talk) 21:18, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you explain this edit summary?

Hi Starling0616, in this edit you made reference to a personal conversation with the subject [2]. The tone and detail of the article raises multiple concerns, but for the moment a pertinent question is whether there's a conflict of interest, per WP:COI. Thank you, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:53, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't see this. Yes. I put this language, about the kitten, in a long time ago, but I had no source. Someone took it out. I realize it was un-sourceable and I assume that is why it was taken out. Recently I was reading the Jane Goodall wiki article which had a very similar sounding quote: "As a child, she was given a lifelike chimpanzee stuffed animal named Jubilee by her father; her fondness for the toy started her early love of animals." I didn't see much difference in the quotes so I thought I would try again. Admitting there was no source was probably not wise. Again I am many years retired. I am paid only by UCLA and Social Security. I volunteer at our local aquarium...where I am paid in tickets. I do not know Carol Buckley, have never met her tho I did converse with her about having her donate pictures to Wikipedia.

Someone took out the list of elephants Buckley rescued. I had originally put those in some widgit that would hide them from the page. Then later I deleted the widget because it didn't display well on my phone. I would like to reinsert the founding herd and Lota and Misty. Again Jane Goodall has a list of her favorite chimps "Among those that Goodall named during her years in Gombe were:[22]

   David Greybeard, a grey-chinned male who first warmed up to Goodall;[23]
   Goliath, a friend of David Greybeard, originally the alpha male named for his bold nature;
   Mike, who through his cunning and improvisation displaced Goliath as the alpha male;
   Humphrey, a big, strong, bullysome male;
   Gigi, a large, sterile female who delighted in being the "aunt" of any young chimps or humans;
   Mr. McGregor, a belligerent older male;
   Flo, a motherly, high-ranking female with a bulbous nose and ragged ears, and her children; Figan, Faben, Freud, Fifi, and Flint;[24][25]
   Frodo, Fifi's second oldest child, an aggressive male who would frequently attack Jane, and ultimately forced her to leave the troop when he became alpha male.[26]

What do I do to have a voice in all of this? Again I have no financial or friend or relationship with Carol Buckley. btw what is this: 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:53, 24 July 2017 (UTC) do I have to write on this too.

to beat a dead horse. I have never had an actual live conversation with her about anything including about a kitten. I put that in as a source thinking I'd be transparent about not having a source. I heard the kitten story when I was emailing her about the pictures...giving them to wiki. BTY someone took her picture out that had her teaching a baby elephant something. How do I get that back?

July 2017

Hello, Starling0616. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

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This seems apt, since rather than answer the above question, you restored content that had been removed as promotional in tone. 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:28, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I will look at these allegations today. I have never met Buckley. I was trying to write something about the unchained film, one thing lead to another...but don't totally understand how to do this in my sandbox.

I've opened a thread here [3]. Please feel free to comment. Thank you, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:39, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand the anger. I have no financial or friendship relationship with Buckley. I have never met her. I was a computer programmer for the University of California, Office of the President. I retired in 2008. I am 73 years old. I am paid by UCLA and SS for getting up every morning. Maybe the problem is that Unchained info. I was trying to over source the info so that someone like "you" would not delete it for being un-sourced. I was going to go back to it...i do not really use my sandbox.

What anger? Your edits are not neutral. You say things like "every Wikipedia article has this or that", but that's simply not true. This material is so far from neutral it couldn't see "neutral" with binoculars. Drmies (talk) 20:24, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

About Carol Buckley I left this message somewhere else but it applies here too. "I have no relationship, financial or friendship with either person. I have never met Carol Buckley. I have conversed with her by email; the last extensive interactions were to get her to give pictures to Wikipedia.

My approach to Wikipedia is to try to source everything and to include in the source some words that show that the source illustrates what has been said. I think that the recent "editing" I have done on Carol Buckley is presentation formating and adding sources. I think someone hated my "Unchained" work. I did too. I was going to get back to it. I haven't seen the movie and don't know the people who made it. But I was trying to over-source, to avoid just what is happening here.

I have tried not to write hagiographies. That is why I over source.

If or where I have failed in my attempt I would like the opportunity to correct my work. Could someone please allow me to do this?

Response to the New Carol Buckley discussion=

Again: The Carol Buckley page still has a banner on it that says the that "the neutrality of the article is disputed" and that a "major contributor appears to have a close connection with its subject. " Neither of these statements is true. I would like the banner to be removed.

1. Neutrality: many of you have changed the article substantially so that neutrality, according to the changes you have made, must have been achieved by now.

2. My "close connection" with the subject: I have never met Carol Buckley. I have talked to her once, 3 years ago on the phone, not about Wikipedia. She is not my friend nor do I work for her or for anyone.

I am 73. I have been retired since 2008 from the University of California, where I worked as a Java computer programmer. I have never written articles for money. (I did work for Ardis Publishing in the early 1970s, but not for money). Today I get paid by UCLA and Social Security.

I have never worked for money with elephants or any animals. Now I volunteer (for free aquarium tickets) for our local Aquarium. The aquarium belongs to the AZA and they do not approve of sanctuaries. I have no bosses. I have no friends who know about or would be impressed by my contributions to Wikipedia.

Your conclusion that I must have some financial or friendship relationship with Carol Buckley is wrong. How can we remove those labels.

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