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Carlos Castaneda revert
Hi,
You reverted my citation in Carlos Castaneda yesterday because his books are not a reliable source. I agree that they are not reliable for stating that the facts within them are true, but the paragraph I was adding the citation to was not stating facts, but rather only stated that Castaneda said certain things, with explicit attribution to him. Cannot a book that was undisputedly written by someone be a reliable source for stating that he said what is written in it?
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ERG EntropyReducingGuy (talk) 10:26, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EntropyReducingGuy: In an article about the book, yes. In an article about the author, no. Skyerise (talk) 14:37, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
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Hello Skyerise! There is a new article on the Institute for Hermetic Studies.
Notability is not established and it needs a major cleanup re promotional tone etc. Wonder if you would like to lend a hand?
Kind regards, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 12:46, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Apaugasma: I'll look into it when I get a chance, but it seems pretty hopeless at first glance. Skyerise (talk) 12:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Apaugasma: Yeah, pretty hopeless. I removed all the promotional external links and AfDed it. Skyerise (talk) 13:13, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking a look and cleaning it up a bit! It might be semi-notable, but I just don't know where I should even start looking for sources. Afd was probably the right choice though. Thanks again, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 19:07, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
Re: Cosmic Consciousness (1901)
Hi, I see you tried doing some copyediting on Cosmic Consciousness (1901), which is great, but I think the best way forward is to reduce it to the bare information about the book and move the rest to the talk page. In other words, I don't think the current version is all that helpful and should be reduced to that of a stub as a reboot of sorts. The article is written in the style of Wikipedia circa 2004, and we no longer write articles in that way, so I think starting over is best. I realize you were trying to preserve the material, but I don't think it works. I will try and help out when I have time but I did want to leave you this note in case you saw me deleting material and didn't understand why. If I do remove anything, I will back it up on the talk page for preservation instead. Viriditas (talk) 01:17, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Any particular reason you couldn't wait a few minutes until I was finished? You're just causing edit conflicts. Viriditas (talk) 01:37, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, it was fine. Please don't remove the editions section - it is standard for book articles. Skyerise (talk) 01:41, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, it isn't. See FA and GA-level books. Also, please learn some self-control and let editors edit after they tell you they are going to edit instead of having to deal with edit conflicts and absurd reverts. This seems to be your MO. Quit it. Viriditas (talk) 01:42, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Dude? I am discussing. You are reverting without discussing. How about using the talk page to explain your concerns? Again, you have a habit of doing this. It isn't a great look. Viriditas (talk) 01:44, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: per bold, revert, discuss, if you make a bold change and it is reverted, the article remains at the previous WP:STATUSQUO pending the outcome of discussion on the article talk page, so you quit it. I am entitled to restore material and you are the one who must open discussion and show consensus for removal. Skyerise (talk) 01:45, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Dude. I told you I was going to be editing the article. I gave you a heads up. Instead of letting me edit and fix the problems, you are reverting in real time and causing edit conflicts. I see now that you are not conducive to collaborations and editing. You don't seem to get it. Good bye. Viriditas (talk) 01:46, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: And I am entitled to revert the parts of your edits that I don't agree with regardless of the prior notification, and you are required to leave the article at the status quo ante and discuss those particular changes on the talk page and wait for additional opinions and consensus. I will take you to 3RRN. Skyerise (talk) 01:49, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Dude. I told you I was going to be editing the article. I gave you a heads up. Instead of letting me edit and fix the problems, you are reverting in real time and causing edit conflicts. I see now that you are not conducive to collaborations and editing. You don't seem to get it. Good bye. Viriditas (talk) 01:46, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: per bold, revert, discuss, if you make a bold change and it is reverted, the article remains at the previous WP:STATUSQUO pending the outcome of discussion on the article talk page, so you quit it. I am entitled to restore material and you are the one who must open discussion and show consensus for removal. Skyerise (talk) 01:45, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Dude? I am discussing. You are reverting without discussing. How about using the talk page to explain your concerns? Again, you have a habit of doing this. It isn't a great look. Viriditas (talk) 01:44, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, it isn't. See FA and GA-level books. Also, please learn some self-control and let editors edit after they tell you they are going to edit instead of having to deal with edit conflicts and absurd reverts. This seems to be your MO. Quit it. Viriditas (talk) 01:42, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, it was fine. Please don't remove the editions section - it is standard for book articles. Skyerise (talk) 01:41, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
Categories
I have no lack of understanding of how categories work; I was, in fact, one of the main writers of a lot of our guidelines about how categories work, which means I very much know do what I'm doing when it comes to categories.
One of the central key rules of categorization is that the broad top-level concept categories, like Category:History or Category:Geography, should only contain a small handful of the most very basic "introduction to core concept" articles, while anything that's drilling down into specialist areas doesn't belong there — for instance, historical figure is fine in that category, but a biographical article about a specific individual historical figure would not be. The overview article history itself belongs there as the head, but a narrower "history of [specific topic]" does not. The basic overview local history belongs there, but a narrower "history of [Specific Place]" would not. Category:Geography should only contain basic concept articles about the study of geography as a whole, not individual lakes or rivers or towns or individual "Geography of [Specific Place]" articles. And on and so forth.
It's a core principle of categories that a top-level subject-area category like that should only contain the most very basic broad-concept articles about the most fundamentally central concepts in that subject, and not narrower articles on particular subtopics. Bearcat (talk) 23:24, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Bearcat: I agree, but you still don't remove them unless you create an appropriate subcategory, which is very easy to do. If you don't have the time or the motivation to do so, you should leave it in the category and post on the article's talk page about the issue rather than simply removing the article from what is the most appropriate category at the moment, especially when the article has been in the category for, I suspect in this case, two decades. Skyerise (talk) 23:30, 6 March 2025 (UTC)