User talk:Siska.Doviana

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RE: Jakarta Training

I would require a bit more information, but you have peaked my interest. If you want, you can use the "e-mail this user" function in the toolbox section of the sidebar to send an e-mail with the information, or post it on my wall. My first question is how much time would be required. Contact in either Indonesian or English is fine. Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:39, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

I've replied on your Indonesian Wikipedia talk page. Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

For your WikiWomenCamp planning assistance.

LauraHale (talk) 03:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Perks

Hi, I remember you from when I was active in ChapCom and have a clear memory of the hardships you had to overcome in order to become a chapter.

As you write on the talkpage on the Signpost of perks for FDC members I want to highlight how this look like for me, one of its members. For round 1 I spent over 100-120 hour preparing and then had two days travel and 4 days full work. For round 2 I prepared 25-30 hours, had two halfdays on journey and a four days session, all without pay. As I am not fully physicly fit I must travel with my wife and can not go by the chepest flight, as WMF demand for it being paid by them, so I have to pay tickets by myslef and also for my wife. It has also meant I need about one week after the session to recover and need to go to bed at 19.00 during the session day. And I also have had to invest by my own money for a new computer to be able to take part. So the total for me this first year has been direct outlays of $4-5.000 and 250 unpaid hours put down. I would not call this a perk. As I have the means I do this willing though, as I am passionate about the goals of the movemnet, including supporting the global south. But I must admit it saddens me that you accuse me for being active beacuse of perks. I do not ask to be thanked but would hope not to be critised for taking part.Anders Wennersten (talk) 17:55, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Anders,

I didn't accuse anyone of getting a perks, I state that there are "travel" (or perks offered) per se. You or other people in the FDC may be upset or maybe happy with this perks (omitting/ including taking your wife in a travel with certain condition or compares to one that have no wife and happily travel with whatever condition). There are travel offered. I did not lie when I make the statement. It's the truth - are we agree at least until this point?

Now let's disagree. Regardless how many hours you put on your work, which you choose to do, your country chapter benefit from FDC, other country chapters also benefit from FDC. My country or my chapter did not. We are not alone, if I remember correctly Hong Kong screams louder than us. Therefore think that FDC is probably not the best mechanism exist. Especially with perks, or no perks. I personally don't care which one you think it is (perks or not). I agree that you think it is not perks based on your condition, so it is a personal condition. In my personal condition, I don't think FDC in general benefit the movement, especially in Indonesia. So let's disagree on your hundred hours of works, it works for others (your country chapter for one), doesn't works for some. Should the percentage is lessen, I would probably start appreciating it more. I do appreciate your effort, but I also appreciate my effort of being critical. Siska.Doviana (talk) 06:24, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

When you criticize FDC - please suggest a better mechanism for the allocation of funds. Otherwise your criticism is unconstructive. Believe me that work at committee meetings is a hardwork. --Perohanych (talk) 13:05, 29 June 2013 (UTC)