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Nomination for deletion of Template:Major Indoor Soccer League

Template:Major Indoor Soccer League has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. WayneOlajuwon (talk) 23:37, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Strange, I don't recall ever using that one, and I'm certain I've never edited it. Shimeru (talk) 23:58, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Massacre of Hormova

I have had that on Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Massacre of Hormova, for almost as long as it has been in AFD (I mentioned I was putting it up in the AFD), so all my difs broke. Couple of the people involved were posting tag team warnings for being disruptive just for posting in the AFD. It was a mess (most of the article was a discussion about the reliability of sources) but usually the NY Times and three widely available history books counts for WP:V.--Savonneux (talk) 00:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, my apologies for that. Still, as I mentioned in my close... the problem isn't with confirming that the Times, etc., said something about an incident. The problem is that those articles were all based on uncomfirmed rumors, and each reported different information. There's no consistency with which to say what might have happened, and the general lack of scholarly inquiry means that there's nothing to rely upon except those initial reports. As far as the books, Pearson definitely appears partisan. The Dutch books may have material allowing for the recreation of the article, though. It would be nice if we could find something written about the incident by a historian. Shimeru (talk) 00:36, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes >.> I tried mentioning that early 20th Century Albanian history isnt as well covered as say The Boer War in English, but the people involved seemed more intent on advancing agendas and arguing minutiae than looking; is reason I'm not putting it up for RevDel --Savonneux (talk) 00:44, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes, it was a close call. Makes me wish I were fluent in Dutch. I hope the RS/N discussion comes to some conclusion. I don't mind undeleting the thing later if it's found that good sources do exist. Shimeru (talk) 00:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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The Admin's Barnstar may be awarded to administrators who made a particularly difficult decision. Thank you for your hard work and dedication. Okip 13:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Shimeru (talk) 18:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of Hanna Beth

An article that you have been involved in editing, Hanna Beth, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hanna Beth. Thank you.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ty Murray's Celebrity Bull Riding Challenge

The sources that I found for Ty Murray's Celebrity Bull Riding Challenge were numerous, independent, and significant, yet the AdD was closed almost immediately after my posting. Will you re-list this AfD to give other editors a chance to respond to the sources that I found in support of notability? Inniverse (talk) 13:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so, in this case. First, it had already been running for two weeks; a second relist is rare except for BLPs. Second, many of those sources are not independent or significant. Going down the list, I see:
  1. Reuters article about Stephen Baldwin being injured while training for the show. Might be considered significant coverage at a stretch, although it says very little about the show.
  2. A fan website. Not a RS.
  3. Canadian Press. RS, but this is a press release about an ex-football player becoming an announcer after having appeared on the show. Show is only mentioned in passing.
  4. Press release about a UFC fighter who's going to appear on the show. Show is only mentioned in passing.
  5. TV.com directory listing of the show.
  6. "Reality TV World" blog post. Significant coverage, but not a RS.
  7. Videoworld.com hosts clips from the show. Not an independent source, and possibly a copyright problem to link to.
  8. Common Sense Media user-submitted review. Not a RS.
  9. TV Guide directory entry.
  10. The portfolio of an animator who happened to work on the show. Not independent and of questionable value as a source.
  11. Reality TV Magazine -- a blog, not a print magazine, despite its title. Not a RS.
  12. LoveToKnow.com -- celebrity gossip site, not a RS. This article is based on the Baldwin incident, already covered by the Reuters article above.
  13. CBC Sports. This might be an RS, but it's the exact same press release about the ex-football player becoming an announcer as in the Canadian Press above. Show is only mentioned in passing.
  14. Helium -- a site anyone can submit to. Not a RS. Article is about bull riding as a sport, mentions show only in passing.
  15. Deadspin blog. Probably not a RS, although the article is at least about the show.
That's a total of one independent reliable source (Reuters) as I count it, and that source is pretty skimpy. Shimeru (talk) 18:48, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


Taeko Sasahara in Aibo 8 Kidnapping Concerto.

Satoh —Preceding undated comment added 01:41, 5 June 2010 (UTC).

Arisa Ushioda

Why did you delete my listing for Arisa Ushioda and why do you think it is introducing inappropriate pages?

I know her personally. She is a top actress in Japan (stage name there Yasuyo Ushioda). Would you like me to email you her professional bio or do you want to talk to her personnally? I can arrange it.

What was wrong with the listing?

Satoh

Retrieved from "http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:Satoh" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satoh (talk • contribs) 19:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I deleted it because I was unable to verify any of the information claimed in the article. Under the name Yasuyo Ushioda, there's confirmation for a handful of roles, but still not the number that had been listed in the article. Can you point to anything that reliably confirms the claims made in the article? (And am I correct in assuming that this is 牛尾田恭代 ?) Shimeru (talk) 19:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


Yes, it is 牛尾田恭代. She changed her name after coming to the US in May 2010. Can email you her professional bio if you'd like. Most of her work isn't online as after she left her agent in Tokyo they removed their listing. Regardless, most of her past media coverage was on TV and very little of that is available online. She's now moving into US films and came here to work with Keanu Reeves on 47 Ronin. You can also read her bio at http://www.wix.com/btownsend/arisaushioda Best thing would probably be to have her email you directly if you have questions. If that is OK, post or send me your email and I'll pass along to Arisa so she can answer questions directly. Thanks for the quick response. Satoh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satoh (talk • contribs) 19:34, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

No, the professional bio wouldn't really help matters. What we need are independent sources discussing her work. For instance, a published review of her performance, or even an IMDb-style directory listing all of her roles. It doesn't necessarily need to be online (although it's a little odd that an actress with so many roles wouldn't have an online presence of some sort). Shimeru (talk) 19:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

IMDB isn't covering the Japanese movies really. She has lots of print (newspapers and magazines) but their not online as far as I can tell. The only real things that show up online are her credits for her films, often as part of DVD sales, but not TV shows, yet TV shows are more popular in Japan than films. Can I republish the listing (although i don't have a backup copy) and list the media coverage sources even if it's not online? And would linking to a DVD for sale be good enough for a film credit? There must be some way for people who don't have much online but have great reputations and significant achievements to get into Wikipedia. For instance, another person I wanted to contribute information on is Haung E Fann, clinical psychologist, past life regressionist is a big celebrity in the Chinese community in US, Mainland China and Taiwan. She's had her own TV show on Phoenix Satellite TV, and hold very successful seminars in China and sometimes in America. Lots of press in China newspapers. Early in her career she is the person who promoted Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon to Columbia and took the film to Cannes where it won awards. Yet when you search for her online the only thing that comes up is her website. www.berylhuang.com. Satoh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satoh (talk • contribs) 21:02, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Often this is acceptable. But the main concern I have is the lack of verifiability. For example, the article stated that she was a regular on TV Asahi's Aibō, yet none of the cast lists I've looked at lists her name. Can you tell me the name of the character she played? Perhaps that would help me track down sources. Shimeru (talk) 21:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


Taeko Sasahara episode 8—Preceding unsigned comment added by Satoh (talk • contribs) 01:45, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

I cannot find any mention of this character. I also thought to check "47 Ronin," since there's typically a fair amount of coverage of American movies in American entertainment magazines, but although I turned up quite a few articles on the movie, none of them seem to mention her. Shimeru (talk) 18:12, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

OK

Ok, good. I would point out that the other decided to fire the matter with "fucking" and other insults. I think it's a typical case of patronization psychosis. Let me know and good work! --'''Attilios''' (talk) 07:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Category for Renaming:Category:German and Scandinavian legendary creatures

I just put a category up for discussion that you started. To join the discussion go here. Munci (talk) 18:43, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Thimio Gogozoto

You made a mistake because the result was Keep 6 Keep-5 Delete.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 07:01, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

It's not a minority/majority case and it's obvious that one more or one less doesn't make the diferrence.Alexikoua (talk) 08:04, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

AfD isn't a vote. It's the arguments that matter. In this case, the claim of notability rested on a medal the man had received posthumously; however, we had no reliable sources showing that he had in fact received it, nor that it was a high honor of the sort that would pass WP:MILPEOPLE. Without those sources, there is no claim of notability, so the article was deleted. Shimeru (talk) 15:51, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Arben Puto who wrote the book I was citing has been a member of the Albanian academy of sciences. The medal Gogozoto received was among the 3 most notable medals that one could receive in the People's Republic of Albania. There were 19 classes of medals in the People's Republic of Albania and that was a 3rd class medal making it very significant.it's a short list of the medals.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 17:04, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Was it Albania's highest reward for valor, per WP:MILPEOPLE? Shimeru (talk) 17:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Shimeru, you might want to see my response Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2010_June_8#Thimio_Gogozoto. Cheers. --Sulmues Let's talk 09:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Francis Ramasamy

This article should not have been deleted, we verified it as authentic www.kenshinkai.org.uk. So will any decent Yoshinkan aikidoka in the world that has been training at least 20 years! What type of verification do you require that this article was authentic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.95.142 (talk) 17:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Reliable secondary sources that cover him in significant depth, and would satisfy the criteria on this page. Newspaper or magazine articles, documentaries, books, that sort of thing. Shimeru 20:51, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

RFC discussion of User:JClemens

A request for comments has been filed concerning the conduct of Jclemens (talk · contribs). You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jclemens. SnottyWong talk 23:56, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

What to do?

An afd you closed a month or so ago. The diff should make it clear [1].Bali ultimate (talk) 00:17, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Reverted it to a redirect, with a note to take it up at DRV. Thanks. Shimeru 00:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Open a Discussion

Can you open up a discussion for the article Stephanie Johnson. The character is notable..she's been with the show since 1990. The only reason the article was deleted was because of it lacking references. How would a daily recap be a primary source? Gabriela Hernandez 00:57, 11 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabi Hernandez (talk • contribs)

Thanks. I can add many more references on the character, that was just sort of a cheap buyout. If allowed I will spend the time to improve the article. Gabriela Hernandez 01:03, 11 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabi Hernandez (talk • contribs)
More sources would make the DRV outcome a fairly easy overturn (that is, to keep it as a separate article). Just try to be sure that they're reliable sources and independent of the show itself. Shimeru 01:19, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Would I add the new sources to where it is currently at Minor characters of Days of our Lives? Gabriela Hernandez 03:10, 11 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabi Hernandez (talk • contribs)
Yes, please do that for now. They can be moved over with the rest if the DRV decides to reinstate the article. Shimeru 20:24, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

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Stephanie Johnson

Hey. Has the community met a decision for restoring Stephanie Johnson. If so I will get to work on it, and add a LOT more sources. Me and User:Gabi Hernandez agreed to put major work into it. Thanks. Sami50421 (talk) 16:32, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

The DRV is set to remain open until June 18. What kinds of sources have you got? If you have numerous independent reliable ones, I'll be happy to withdraw the DRV as no longer relevant. Shimeru 18:57, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
I have checked all my soap opera encyclopedia's. Stephanie is the daughter of Kayla Brady, and Steve Johnson two of the most popular characters in daytime. There is information listed in both of those about the character, and the relationship with her parents. Executive producer Ken Corday recently published a book explaining in detail the history of the Soap Opera with mentions of Stephanie, and the actress Shelley Hennig. The actress was recently nominated for a emmy award, which provides you with sources and opportunities. [2]. These are just some of the numerous reliable sources I have found. I think that restoring the article at this point is the right decision. Sami50421 (talk) 20:34, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Good work. I'll withdraw the DRV. Shimeru 20:52, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much for signing up for the July Backlog Elimination Drive! The copyedit backlog stretches back two and a half years, all the way back to the beginning of 2008! We're really going to need all the help we can muster to get it down to a manageable number. We've ambitiously set a goal of clearing all of 2008 from the backlog this month. In order to do that, we're going to need more participants. Is there anyone that you can invite or ask to participate with you? If so, we're offering an award to the person who brings in the most referrals. Just notify ɳorɑfʈ Talk! or Diannaa TALK of who your referrals are. Once again, thanks for your support! Diannaa TALK 02:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Commons invitation

Hi, you should consider going to Special:MergeAccount and then go on Commons, which will automatically create an account for you there. On Commons you can upload free images, fix mistakes, etc. and the images or other files are accessible for all Wikimedia projects. To learn more check Help:Unified login. Regards Hekerui (talk) 20:59, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Dieselpunk

I've sent it to deletion review. I'm sure you were aware this would happen given the number of keep comments. Regards. Szzuk (talk) 13:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

You've just beaten me to it. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

MIss Hannah Minx

Hello, you were the deleting administrator on the article. She is notable, and has even surpassed popular vlogger, Magibon, in subscribers and current viewing average. There's also some more references to her which I want to add to the article. She's being sponsored to come to Vidcon and comic con this summer, and a recent interview has revealed deals with various popular clothing stores to carry Hannah Minx merchandise. Can you please put it back up? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Entropy75 (talk • contribs) 23:01, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Could you link me some of those sources if they're online, or tell me where they appeared if they aren't? If there are reliable sources, overturning the deletion shouldn't be a problem. Shimeru 23:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you

Thank you for initiating the peer review edit for the article, "Harvey Littleton". Would it help if I asked a couple of the people whose writing is referenced in the article to have a look at it and make changes as well? I am thinking of Mr. Littleton's biographer Joan Byrd, and independent curator William Warmus. Thanks again for your excellent work on this article. I appreciate your interest in making it an encyclopedia-worthy source for information about Harvey Littleton. Glassnote (talk) 10:58, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Having that kind of expert input would be amazing, and very welcome. And thank you, but I think most of the credit for the article goes to you. I might have started the article off a few years ago, but your edits took it from a basic skeleton to an in-depth article. You've done quite a lot for articles about glass artists on Wikipedia, in fact; of the articles I'd intended to cover before my rather long break, I think only Tom McGlauchlin is left (although I need to revisit Christopher Ries at some point too. Shimeru 00:35, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Shimeru: Yes, I have been meaning to get around to Tom McGlauchlin; I really have! But other things have been taking up my time lately. Will try to get something basic up in the next week and then go from there. Thanks for the kudos. Contemporary glass art is fascinating. It is curious that more people have not posted information about the artists involved. I have lots of reference info at my disposal about the Studio Glass movement, but there are a couple or so other wikipedians with strong opinions about the subject who apparently have no references to back up their assertions. For that reason I haven't attempted to work on the studio glass article. Sigh. Glassnote (talk) 14:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Thread on AN/I that may interest you

FYI. While your name isn't mentioned, edits you made to a protected article are being pointed to on an AN/I thread. --Onorem♠Dil 22:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


Modelio answer

Hi Shimeru!

Thank you for your informations about Modelio's article deletion.

It seems that Modelio is not enough notorious in international development world. I hope this tool continue to be appreciated so one day it can appear on wikipedia. I will not hesitate to contact you to obtain more advices.titchagui —Preceding undated comment added 14:29, 17 June 2010 (UTC).

User:OttomanJackson/Money (Michael Jackson song)

I fixed the article up and added more sources. Can you reconsider recreating it? You can find it at User:OttomanJackson/Money (Michael Jackson song). —Preceding undated comment added 20:28, 7 June 2010 (UTC).

Two things: 1. I'm not certain how this meets WP:NSONGS. Can you explain?
2. MJTunes appears to be a copyright-violating site. We cannot link to it or use it as a source. Shimeru (talk) 16:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I have found more independent sources to help with NSONGS. I Think the fact that Sony wanted to release it as a single makes it notable plus how is MJTunes a copyright violation? Thank You Very Much! OttomanJackson 23:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by OttomanJackson (talk • contribs)
You have a new message from OttomanJackson "Thanks. I have found more independent sources to help with NSONGS. I Think the fact that Sony wanted to release it as a single makes it notable plus how is MJTunes a copyright violation? Thank You Very Much!" Sorry to have to put it here, but you have not responded in a couple of days so I belive you mave have overlooked it. Thanks a ton!!! OttomanJackson 21:35, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Nope, just busy until this weekend and have limited on-wiki time. The site contains copyright violations because it includes 1. full song lyrics, 2. full song performances, and 3. full music videos, which they do not appear to have the authorization from the rights-holders to reproduce. (It's also not a "reliable source" for citing that Sony wanted to release the song as a single, because it falls into the blog/fansite category, and those are almost never reliable.) Shimeru 21:48, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I fixed it up, got rid of MJTunes, and added another review. Would you PLEASE reconsider it? THanks! OttomanJackson 18:34, 11 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by OttomanJackson (talk • contribs)
Okay, I don't see any more copyright issues. If you really feel it meets WP:NSONGS, go ahead and replace the redirect. I'm not certain people would agree, but it's better than it was. Shimeru 20:29, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH, SHIMERU!!!! However, only admins can edit the page until May 2011 so could you please replace the redirect for me? THANKS A TON OttomanJackson 21:35, 11 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by OttomanJackson (talk • contribs)
All right, I can take care of that. Before I do, let me ask you: is the article in the best shape you can get it? If you know of any other newspaper or magazine articles, or other reliable sources, you might want to add them now rather than later. I think it's fairly likely that the article will be sent to AfD again, and if it's deleted again, it will be very difficult to re-establish it. It would be best to make the article as strong as you can before putting it back in the article space. Shimeru 19:29, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay I am fixing it. Please give me a few more days. I will tell you when I'm ready. Thanks so much!!!! OttomanJackson 23:26, 12 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by OttomanJackson (talk • contribs)
I think it is ready, though if you or anyone else can find more, please add it. Plus if it is not to much to ask, could a please have a copy of the deleted article Theodosia Throckmorton. I know there are two versions, please send both. I really appreciate this. OttomanJackson 23:16, 13 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by OttomanJackson (talk • contribs)
I'd just like to point out that OttomanJackson has been very disruptive here on Wikipedia. They have continued to recreate articles on non-notable subjects, sometimes even after an AFD has clearly supported a deletion or redirection. In three cases (on the articles for Money (Michael Jackson song), Morphine (song) and 2 Bad) pages have needed full-protection because of OttomanJackson's disruption using their account, as well as multiple IP socks. Instead of unprotecting and recreating the article against the consensus at the AFD, I would instead point OttomanJackson towards WP:DRV. There, they can argue their case for recreation of Money (Michael Jackson song) and provide a link to their draft version of the article. Pyrrhus16 00:31, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Listen, Pyrrhus16, I have already stated that the IP adresses were not mine. as for 24.1...the one that found the Rosemary anne picture source, I accidentally forgot to log in, no harm intended. And youre not perfect either, as you have been sent to AN/I with Michael Jackson and Bubbles edit-warring. You were warned you might be blocked so don't be so harsh on me. I have not been disruptive. YOu have simply overenforced rules on Michael Jackson songs, but nor Beatles songs. If Morphine, with 7 references is not notable how is Revolution 9, with no references? OttomanJackson 16:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
You have not been disruptive? Around 37 sections of warnings in the space of two months suggests otherwise, as does your block log and the 3 redirects that have had to be almost indefinitely fully-protected because of your continued attempts at recreation. The fact of the matter is that WP:DRV is the correct venue when trying to recreate an article that was deleted through recent consensus. I find it totally unacceptable that you are asking an administrator to unprotect and recreate a recently deleted page, when it had to be salted in the first place purely because of you. DRV is the correct venue for this. Pyrrhus16 16:46, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
No, One was a message to try to get a MJ song to chart, and one was a welcome and introduction. Plus Message 37, I reverted it, it was an accident so why did you messsage me about it. It was clearly an accident and no harm was done. You're not perfect either. As I said you were sent to AN/I and just got lucky because some users like youre other edits. Plus, is it just me or are you trying to annoy me, Pyrrhus16? You get articles I create that have nothing to do with Michael Jackson deleted? (Theodosia Throckmorton and Conquests (Civilization III Scenarios)) Please stop this, as a really don't appreciate it. P.S. I think Shimeru is doing a good thing, giving a perfectly notable article a second chance. It is notable because it was about That liars dad, who I happen to dislike as he stole millions of dollars from MJ!!! OttomanJackson 02:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
An accident? Yes, I have no doubt that it was an accident that you pressed the save button. But when you did, you had typed out in my userspace, "I am a very strict enforcer of wikipedia policies, and delete info pointlessley". You were caught bonnie. The articles that you created have been deleted because they do not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. That's the bottom line. It appears to me that you still have no understanding of notability and what warrants a standalone article; you recently attempted to redirect a very notable Beatles song that has been covered by many, many artists and that has reached number one with three different acts. You tried to merge the song article to a page on a totally unrelated track. Care to explain yourself? What's going on here? Pyrrhus16 04:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  1. 1.It was an accident, I undid it, apologized and no harm was done. #2. Why are we discussing this on Shimeru's talk page, as this does not involve Shimeru? #3. Why are you angry about a mistake I made that I undid seconds later? #4. What makes Revolution 9, with no sources more notable that Money, which now has 10 sources? #5. Why does it matter how well it is known if there is no limit to how many articles WP can hold? I think you need to explain yourself. OttomanJackson 15:44, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Good question. He's got a point, though. You might want to consider going through DRV rather than tempting another AfD (which I think is likely to happen, given the history of the article). I'll leave that decision up to you, but I'll point out that my reinstating the page wouldn't particularly count for much at AfD. Either way, it's likely you're going to end up defending the article and its sourcing. Shimeru 18:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
One more question, Pyrrhus16, If you are British like you say, why would you even look at, let alone redirect, my US $5000 bill article? Shimeru, Thanks, I would like to do DRV. Can you please help me? ThanksOttomanJackson 21:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, of course. Have you read the instructions on the WP:DRV page yet? If so, which part of the process are you having trouble with? Shimeru 07:28, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

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