User talk:Semmendinger/2022
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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
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Hello Semmendinger,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.
Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.
In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 817 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 854 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.
This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.
If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}}
on their talk page.
If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
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Sent 05:18, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
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Hello Semmendinger,
- Backlog status
At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.
Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]
In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).
- Backlog drive
A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
- TIP – New school articles
Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
- Misc
There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}
, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 15464 articles, as of 22:00, 28 August 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot
There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.
- Reminders
- Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
- If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing
{{subst:NPR invite}}
on their talk page. - If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
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- Notes
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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
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Hello Semmendinger,
- Backlog status
After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.
- Coordination
- MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
- Open letter to the WMF
- The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
- TIP - Reviewing by subject
- Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.
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- New reviewers
- The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.
- Reminders
- Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
- If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing
{{subst:NPR invite}}
on their talk page. - If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
- To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.
Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:25, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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NPP Awards for 2018
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Redirect Ninja Master Award | |
For over 7,000 redirect reviews during 2018. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:57, 7 September 2022 (UTC) |
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The New Page Reviewer's Bronze Award | |
For over 1,000 article reviews during 2018. Well done! Keep up the good work! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:57, 7 September 2022 (UTC) |
Here are two awards to show appreciation for the NPP reviews you did back in 2018. We realize this is late, but NPP fell behind in some coordination activities. We have just caught up with giving out deserved barnstars. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:57, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hey thanks! The ninja one is neat. I do think I already got the bronze for 2018. Been meaning to check out NPP again but I've forgotten how it works in the last 4 years. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 03:28, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- I had done a check before giving this, and ICPH's message said "for the last year". I understood it to mean for 2017. But I now see on the same page that you only got the NPR right in January 2018, so obviously that award was for 2018. Sorry about the confusion.
- If you want to get back to New Page Patrolling, maybe you can dip your toes in with redirect reviewing, to start with? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Hey man im josh. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed or created, Head of state of Argentina, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.
(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)
Hey man im josh (talk) 15:10, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: - why? It's in first sentence. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 15:15, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hey @Semmendinger, I actually just encountered an edit conflict when trying to undo this. I batched opened a number of pages and must have missed that that made had been reviewed. Sorry about that! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:16, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- All good! I haven't been reviewing a couple years so I was hoping it wasn't a mistake I was making. Thanks for clearing that up! SEMMENDINGER (talk) 15:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hey @Semmendinger, I actually just encountered an edit conflict when trying to undo this. I batched opened a number of pages and must have missed that that made had been reviewed. Sorry about that! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:16, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: - why? It's in first sentence. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 15:15, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Review of "The Tale of the Woodcutter and his Daughters"
Hello, Semmendinger. When you left the warning about excessive details, what did you mean by that? I assume - and concur - that the text of the "Variants" section is a bit extensive. If this is what you meant, I will gladly reduce it.KHR FolkMyth (talk) 14:44, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, that's what the tag is in reference to. Wish it was a more specific tag, feel free to remove it if you find a way to shorten that section! SEMMENDINGER (talk) 02:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Broken image
I tried for quite a while to remove that broken image from The Rivalry but couldn't figure it out either. It's a complex graph and likely something small contributing to it. But hope someone can resolve it. I tried! Keystone18 (talk)
- @Keystone18: Yeah, I couldn't figure it out either! Got the better of me, I gave up. The code in there looks a little crazy so I'm not going to mess with it. Someone will come along and clean it up... eventually! SEMMENDINGER (talk) 15:35, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
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