User talk:Sayyonee19

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ally Adnan (February 15)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Onel5969 was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Sayyonee19, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ally Adnan (June 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by LaMona was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Must be written in a purely factual tone. Not "has been instrumental in the setting up and operations of" but "set up operations" period. Not "constitute a veritable archive of serious biographical documentation" but "has written on..." (and that must be referenced). "all over the world" - probably not quite, but has spoken in multiple countries, not every one.

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LaMona (talk) 04:05, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ally Adnan (July 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

It seems there will still not enough for convincing independent notability; you could add all additional amounts of in-depth third-party news sources overall (no interviews, press releases or trivial passing mentions), but I'm not entirely confident if it would help.

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SwisterTwister talk 19:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Ally Adnan

Hello, Sayyonee19. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Ally Adnan".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 (talk) 03:16, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Ally Adnan for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ally Adnan is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ally Adnan until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Saqib (talk) 05:11, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ally Adnan

@Sayyonee19: Just like you, I happen to like Ally Adnan's journalism and newspaper articles as a music critic. So I went ahead and tried to improve his article that you created recently. I am a retired Pakistani-American engineer living in the US with grown-up kids. I edit Wikipedia as a hobby and also love Pakistani music. Have been doing it for nearly 5 years now. I still need to do some remaining finishing touches on the article which I'll complete shortly. Hopefully, we both can save the article from Deletion. Allow me a few more hours and I'll be done with it. In the meantime, feel free to leave me a message here on your Talk page or on my Talk page. Best Regards and my Salaams...A fellow Pakistani...Ngrewal1 (talk) 20:22, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ngrewal1: Nice to connect with you here sir. I am still figuring the 'editing' and 'posting' features on Wikipedia so not sure if you will get this message or not. If you do, please let me know. I appreciate your time and effort in saving this article from deletion. I think his work and articles justify an entry here but have been challenged with some of the objections raised by reviewers. As part of my latest edits I included multiple videos and TV program recordings. So let's see if those and your polishing helps. Thanks. sayyonee19

@Sayyonee19: Thanks for the appreciation of my editing work on Ally Adnan. You are the one who deserves most of the credit for leaving me more than 11 reliable sources at your created article to work with. Like you say, I just polished up the article. But I am glad you took it the 'right way' my well-meaning attempt. Even on Wikipedia, I have run into some cynics in the past who take everything 'the wrong way' and do not assume good faith like Wikipedia management wants us to do. Also I have written a Keep for your article for Ally Adnan on the Articles for deletion Discussion Page just now. I also encourage you to keep participating in that Discussion Page to SAVE other good and deserving Pakistan-related articles despite the challenges from the cynics. We have to be bold and not be afraid to write a Keep on that Discussion Page. We should step forward to support each other. Please feel free to leave me a note on my Talk page about anything you want to discuss or have questions in the future. By the way, I have finished editing Ally Adnan for now. I have made it a Category:Stub-Class biography articles for both of us or anyone else can add to it in future.....THANKS...Ngrewal1 (talk) 23:33, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ngrewal1: I got a chance to look at the article you edited and must say that, though shortened, now most of it can be directly sourced to the articles referenced. This I am sure will help in keeping the article. Additionally, this interview was published recently on Ally Adnan: https://dailytimes.com.pk/147213/music-dance-not-list-five-items-declared-haram/ . Do you think we can incorporate additional information from here into the article. With your experience I would rather you take a look at it first. Additionally what else can we do do move this out of the 'delete' list and get it approved once and for all? sayyonee19

@Ngrewal1: I am not sure why we are running into so much resistance but now Saqib has trimmed the Ally Adnan article down to just 2 lines and 6 references! I am not too experienced on Wikipedia but is this something that's normal? Such scrutiny for a biographical stub has left me confused and scratching my head. I have read many many articles on here with much fewer references and citations. sayyonee19

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ally Adnan (executive) (December 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by JSFarman was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

More references are needed to meet the inclusion criteria. (The articles he's written don't go toward his own notability.) Also, the tone needs to be neutral and the assertions specific - "more or less" isn't appropriate for a Wikipedia article.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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JSFarman (talk) 04:46, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Ally Adnan (executive) concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Ally Adnan (executive), a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:35, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Ally Adnan (executive)

Hello, Sayyonee19. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ally Adnan".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. » Shadowowl | talk 18:43, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ally Adnan (executive) (February 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by StraussInTheHouse was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Littered with weasel words and peacock phrases. "well known" requires extensive citations, "high ranking" and "veritable" seem a bit promotional, refer to his "kids" as "children" to make it sound more encyclopedic, etc.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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SITH (talk) 21:20, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ally Adnan (executive) (February 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 12:34, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ally Adnan (executive) (April 13)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by K.e.coffman was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Fails WP:BASIC / WP:CREATIVE.

K.e.coffman (talk) 15:56, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]