User talk:Santiago Claudio

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August 2021 1

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Religious affiliation in the United States House of Representatives. Sundayclose (talk) 01:47, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove maintenance templates from Wikipedia articles without resolving the problem that the template refers to, as you did at 2021–22 Regionalliga. Sundayclose (talk) 01:23, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sundayclose: Is the Regionalliga article verified? The external links were used properly. Santiago Claudio (talk) 01:32, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You removed the refimprove template. Fixing your problem edits is getting very tiresome, especially when you never explain yourself and rarely respond to other editors. You continued to add unsourced edits after the final warning above and the numerous warnings that you deleted. In case you don't realize this, your warnings are forever in this talk page history, and will be the first place an admin looks when they come to block you. If there's something about "unsourced" that you don't understand, ask right here, right now. Otherwise after your next problem edit I promise you that you will either defend yourself at WP:ANI or get another block. Second blocks are longer, and after that you could get an indefinite block. You also have been asked repeatedly to leave edit summaries, but you obviously don't consider that important, so the assumption of good faith for you no longer exists. Sundayclose (talk) 01:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sundayclose: I dislike an indefinite block. Is it practical for me to leave hundreds, even thousands of edit summaries? I disagree that assumption of good faith for me no longer exists. Santiago Claudio (talk) 01:49, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you "dislike indefinite block", then STOP making problem edits. It's "practical" for the rest of Wikipedia to leave edit summaries (yes, thousands of them), and you don't have any special privilege here despite what you might assume. You can disagree as much as you want, but you no longer have my assumption of good faith, and I'm certain that's true of several other editors. Your editing privileges are hanging by a thread, and you seem oblivious to that, so you'll very like get a block whether you "dislike indefinite block" or not. Sundayclose (talk) 01:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sundayclose: If unsourced texts are general facts, do they still have to be cited? Santiago Claudio (talk) 01:58, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In your case, you seem to have a lack of understanding of what "general facts" are, so you should source everything. None of the warnings you've received for making unsourced edits involved "general facts". You're never wrong to cite a source, so do it every time, no exceptions. I'm not getting into an argument with you every time you falsely assume something is a "general fact". If it's unsourced, I'm going straight to WP:ANI. If you were a new editor who had made a reasonable effort to communicate with others here, I might have some sympathy. But you are not new, and you have made almost no effort to communicate. So as I said, I now never assume good faith with you. Sundayclose (talk) 02:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sundayclose: So if you have no assumption of good faith with me, for me I have. On the contrary, I do understand what "general facts" are. Santiago Claudio (talk) 02:24, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, none of the warnings you received were for "general facts". I've made my point very clear. One more unsourced or other problem edit, and we're going to WP:ANI. It looks like the only way you'll learn what is required here is to have it removed from you for a while. I'm not wasting any more time on this matter. That's my final comment. Sundayclose (talk) 02:31, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ANI report

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 01:29, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

August 2021 2

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Mike Devecka. Addition of unsourced content after repeated warnings, refusal to use edit summaries. Please immediately start using edit summaries and stop adding unsourced content. —valereee (talk) 15:04, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Valereee: Sundayclose pointed that out; there are sources, on the contrary. Santiago Claudio (talk) 15:08, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you think I "pointed out". But let's be very clear. Your comment "there are sources" is yet another attempt by you to shift blame or cover up your problem edits. For the edits in question here, you made the edits without sources and didn't bother to add sources until the ANI report was made. It's becoming increasingly evident that you are not willing to accept responsibility for your edits. That's not a good sign for your chances of avoiding a block. Pinging Valereee. Sundayclose (talk) 15:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the source for this edit? And please don't tell me it's in the edit you made four days later. It is not okay to add unsourced content and only bother to add a source if someone complains. Frankly it's shocking that someone with 24K edits and 8 years experience does not understand this and do it as a matter of course. Persistently adding unsourced content forces other editors to check your content to see if it's got a source, which wastes their time. That is disruptive editing. —valereee (talk) 15:18, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In my first few editing years there were no or few complaints. Why take exception only now? By the way, I'm already asleep. Santiago Claudio (talk) 15:33, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That comment captures precisely the problem with your approach to editing: "If I can get away with bad edits for years, I should be able to do it forever". The reason for "taking exception only now" is that with years of experience, many thousands of edits, and numerous warnings, your unsourced and other problem edits become increasingly egregious. It's an indication that you do not accept responsibility for your edits and don't plan to accept responsibility, even after others try repeatedly to convince you. You show no remorse for damaging Wikipedia. Quite frankly, after seeing that comment, if it was up to me you would immediately get another block. But I'm not an admin so that's not my decision. But with your attitude it's only a matter of time. Again pinging Valereee. Sundayclose (talk) 15:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP has steadily increased our standards. You'll need to comply with the current requirements or SC is likely right. It's been five years since the previous block, which was for something unrelated, so I'm not comfortable blocking if a strongly-worded warning can work. I guess we'll see. —valereee (talk) 16:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

August 2021 3

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at 2021–22 NBA G League season. The source must support EVERYTHING in your edit. Not just part of it. EVERYTHING. Sundayclose (talk) 05:12, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

August 2021 4

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently adding unsourced or poorly sourced content.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. —valereee (talk) 15:53, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This block is due to persistent addition of unsourced content, refusal to explain disputed changes via edit summary, and now a personal attack above at Special:Permalink/1039084594#August 2021 3 because people are complaining. Admin responding to an unblock request should read the several August 2021 threads here and the ANI. —valereee (talk) 15:58, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Santiago Claudio (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I understood and accept the reasons for blocking me indefinitely. I'm truly sorry for my personal attack – I loathe, and have taken exception to, being pestered or nagged about my contributions or so-called "problem" edits. In all my Wikipedia editing years I've never attempted to disrupt this website or damage its credibility through my recent or past edits. It's unconscionable for me to be sidelined from editing for an unknown length of time, and an effective ban is beneath me. So, I pledge to desist adding unsourced content, to ensure sources support everything in my next edits, not just parts of them, and to explain disputed changes via the edit summary. Santiago Claudio (talk) 00:05, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Editing Wikipedia requires you to collaborate with other users. Describing their concerns as "nagging" makes it seem to me that you're going to have trouble collaborating except on your own terms. Please make a new unblock request that describes how you will interact with your fellow editors when they have a problem with your edits. Please see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for suggestions. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:41, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

No objection. —valereee (talk) 11:38, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Santiago Claudio (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

In interacting with fellow editors when there are problems with my edits, I pledge to heed their concerns, desist adding unsourced content, ensure sources support everything in my next edits, not just parts of them, and explain disputed changes via the edit summary. Otherwise, I also pledge to either add a new section to the relevant article's or articles' talk page(s) that explains my rationale, discuss with the other party/parties, focus on content, or even disengage. Santiago Claudio (talk) 14:50, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Accept reason:

Sounds like a reasonable commitment. Good luck. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 15:17, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

49 Days Later

Since you were blocked for 49 days, I'm going to alert @Sundayclose: because I have doubts about your reinstatement in Wikipedia. I hope you take this matter seriously & reply to the previous messages before you make any further revisions on the articles. I hope you start using the Edit Summary & never leave a blank on that section. If you leave a blank, users have the right to revert it & don't ever bring that matter again in the future. Also, don't post anything that's already been checked & verified before. That's disruptive editing & assumption in good faith is no longer applicable to you anymore. If you think that information belongs in the article, cite your sources, i.e, the ISBN of a book & not an internet blog. I only have 824 total edits to my name compared to 24,838 live edits to your name. I'm not here for attention, credibility, notoriety, popularity, recognition & reputation. I'm here to bring information that wasn't brought to this site's attention before. You must be here for attention, credibility, notoriety, popularity, recognition & reputation. You update articles that haven't been updated for a while. Just because an article hasn't been updated for a while doesn't mean it's inactive. Perhaps, users are trying to find & research useful information that's pertinent to the subject. It takes a very long time to check/verify information & sources. Don't take this as an attack, it's a reminder of what you must or mustn't do in Wikipedia. NKM1974 (talk) 23:56, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's sad that it came to this because you've made some good edits. But those good edits don't justify the many bad edits or refusal to respect other editors and work collaboratively with them. I'm not opposed to the unblock, but I will be watching all of your edits closely, and I'm sure others will also. That's not stalking or harassment; it's us taking care of Wikipedia based on your editing history. You're on thin ice right now. I strongly suggest editing conservatively for a while and never reverting anyone (other than obvious vandals) more than once without discussion. Always, always respond to warnings or other attempts at communication. Good luck. Sundayclose (talk) 20:30, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced additions

Hey, SC. You said you would stop doing this. Can you explain? valereee (talk) 23:02, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Valereee: Many other users added them before me for years, why wouldn't I? Santiago Claudio (talk) 01:28, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll let Valereee handle this, but I'll remind you of your promise when you requested that your latest block be lifted: "In interacting with fellow editors when there are problems with my edits, I pledge to heed their concerns, desist adding unsourced content, ensure sources support everything in my next edits, not just parts of them, and explain disputed changes via the edit summary." (bold added) Sundayclose (talk) 01:38, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide the source that justifies this edit? Alssa1 (talk) 14:13, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is the one: Mack, Tom (4 November 2021). "MP Claudia Webbe kicked out of Labour Party after sentencing". LeicestershireLive. Retrieved 10 January 2022. Santiago Claudio (talk) 14:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's the Labour party, not the Socialist Campaign Group...Alssa1 (talk) 14:25, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SC, because you said you would not do that any longer. Maybe I shouldn't have assumed you meant that even if you saw other people doing it, you now knew it wasn't okay. Do you now understand that you should not be adding unsourced content even if you see that others are doing that? valereee (talk) 14:26, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I do, and I'm sorry for what I did. Santiago Claudio (talk) 14:31, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. FTR, the reason I didn't indef you after your initial response was because I felt it was unlikely an admin responding to an unblock request would find any promise you made credible since you just broke your last promise. I didn't want this to amount to a permanent ban. But honestly, SC, this really is your final chance. Your next addition of unsourced content will likely be your last edit for a very long time, possibly forever. valereee (talk) 16:50, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

February 2022

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at 2021 PBA season. ^{Engr. Smitty Werben} 05:18, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 2022

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:33, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Santiago Claudio,

Please do not cut & paste content from a draft article to a main space page. If you disagree with a page move, then move it back. But don't create two pages on the same subject. It's disruptive. Ideally, you'd work on the draft version until it was ready to be submitted for review but if you are too impatient for that, then move the page back. Please do not cut & paste again in the future. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:35, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry and I understand, Liz. Santiago Claudio (talk) 06:24, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of Beta Beta Beta chapters

Ideally, for Greek Letter Organizations, there should be one table including both active and inactive chapters with a column for status. When I have a chance, I'd like to extend the existing table by adding that column and restoring the ones that where removed and mark them inactive. A complete list including all inactives hopefully can be found.Naraht (talk) 15:26, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 2023

Hi, Santiago Claudio. Thanks for patrolling new pages. I've declined your deletion request for a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. Please take a moment to read the new tutorial for patrollers, criteria for speedy deletion, and particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion or proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. Thanks! 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:24DE:F159:39FF:48EF (talk) 02:02, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to join New pages patrol

Hello Santiago Claudio!

The New Pages Patrol is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles needing review. We could use a few extra hands to help.
We think that someone with your activity and experience is very likely to meet the guidelines for granting.
Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time, but it requires a strong understanding of Wikipedia’s CSD policy and notability guidelines.
Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision, and feel free to post on the project talk page with questions.
If patrolling new pages is something you'd be willing to help out with, please consider applying here.

Thank you for your consideration. We hope to see you around!

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Diego de Vega

Hello, can you help me to edit more detailed info from these sources: 1, 2, 3? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.233.238.32 (talk) 09:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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