User talk:SMcCandlish/Archive 211
This is an archive of past discussions with User:SMcCandlish. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 205 | ← | Archive 209 | Archive 210 | Archive 211 | Archive 212 | Archive 213 | → | Archive 215 |
June 2024
Nomination for deletion of Template:Term/inline
Template:Term/inline has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 11:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Template:Term/multiterm has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 11:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Template:Term/multiterm-function has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 11:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
The redirect User:2601:9:4303:8590:4571:E326:4AB2:E047 has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 2 § User:2601:9:4303:8590:4571:E326:4AB2:E047 until a consensus is reached. Nickps (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:AZBilliards
Template:AZBilliards has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:45, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Deletion of a redirect you created
Hello, would you be alright with this redirect [1] being deleted to make way for an article I've written on the subject: Draft:Hypothyroidism in dogs, thanks. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Traumnovelle: Sounds like a good plan. :-) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 23:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Traumnovelle: I have now handily forgotten where the redirect went, but I recall that it was a section. That section could probably use a
{{Main|Hypothyroidism in dogs}}
if you didn't do that already. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 10:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC)- It went to list of dog diseases, I'll add that now thanks. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:22, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ehhhhhhxcellent, as Mr. Burns would say (with steepled fingers). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 04:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- It went to list of dog diseases, I'll add that now thanks. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:22, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Traumnovelle: I have now handily forgotten where the redirect went, but I recall that it was a section. That section could probably use a
Feedback request: Economy, trade, and companies request for comment
Your feedback is requested at Talk:United States on a "Economy, trade, and companies" request for comment. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.
Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 09:31, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Gbq/doc
Template:Gbq/doc has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. — sbb (talk) 08:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Hatnote Template concept: about-distinguish-for
Hey Gary Oldman Person!
I recall you helped me once w/ a Bette Davis section hatnote indent. This one is a bit different, as it's an inquiry about a page-topper hatnote (forgive/correct me, if terminologies are incorrect).
So with some similarly titled things, I think there are instances where simple About-For, Distinguish-For, etc. etc. all work just fine, or even just single About, For, Distinguish, et al. There is also Redirect-Distinguish-For, which I've used at least once. But I can't fathom exactly why there isn't an About-Distinguish-For?? I know I've edited a few recently where I felt that was the best choice, yet realized it's non-existent. I feel like it's close enough to Redirect-Distinguish-For to be worth formatting for usage. Using two separate hatnotes, in which the second ends up creating a line break/second line for no reason is no good.
For just a small example—not the best—let's use this indie film, Departure (2015). Stub, needs work. But About "2015 film". Not to be confused with 2008 film. For other films with the same title, see Departure (disambiguation) § Films. Just pretend these are bigger films, if needed. First is to identify or clarify article, rather than what redirected them there. Second, this particular alternate title that could cause confusion is the MOST notable one that is worth singling out for distinguishment, because it's the foreign-language Oscar winner. And lastly, the disambiguation is not just general departures, but a list of a few other films from various years that are also titled Departure (in some spelling/grammar variation). If need be, replace these with any Major/Minor/Other popular names of nouns!
I thought there might be some way to manipulate the template within the template, to insert the {For} within an About-Distinguish-custom text type. Idk. But alas, that's where I'm at and I seem to be having trouble articulating the necessity, imo, for one. --Cinemaniac86TalkStalk 05:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Cinemaniac86: Okay, so we have Departure (disambiguation)#Films, and Departure (2015 film), and 3 other films by the same name (4 counting a film better known by an alternative title), and 10 total counting The Departure and plural Departures variants (but apparently no The Departures).
In this case, I would simply use
{{For|other films with the same title|Departure (disambiguation)#Films}}
. I really can't see a good rationale for{{About-distinguish|the 2015 film|Departures (2008 film)}}
, since neither the title nor the year are a match, and there is no actual reason to try to single out any other movie at all (award or no) among such a number of films. Anyone who is so aware of the details of obscure Oscars categories is already going to know it was a 2008 Best Foreign Film winner not a 2015 winner. I.e., there is far more confusion potential with Departure (1931 film), Departure (1938 film), and Departure (1986 film). Anyone who just encountered a "I really recommend the film Departure" or something will not know which it is, especially if it was in a context like a film class or some other venue that was not wholly focused on recent releases. If The Departure (2015 film) or a Departures (2015 film) also existed (or something like "Chicken Nuggets of Doom, a 2015 Elbonian film re-titled Departure in some markets"), those would also be very likely confusion candidates.But there are already too many to call them out specifically in a hatnote.
{{For|other films with the same or similar titles|Departure (disambiguation)#Films}}
is really what is needed (without any other DAB hatnote). And while it doesn't apply to this specific obscure indy film, for many films there could also be a directly related soundtrack album, novel, video game, sequel, earlier or remake film version, derived TV series, overall franchise article, or something else to disambiguate from the 2015 (or whatever year) film.Maybe there could be a use case for a
{{About-distinguish-for}}
, I don't think Departure (2015 film) is that use case. And while it would be easy to create such a template, if it does not see [appropriate] use, it will just get deleted at WP:TFD. Wikipedia's been disambiguating things for 23+ years, and has done so fine without such a template, so it's unlikely to prove useful. It's important to remember that these hatnotes exist only to help readers be sure they have arrived at the right article when they just guess at a title, or click on something that provides the title but insufficent context for that person to positively identify it among the alternatives. A purpose they do not serve is trying to "educate" or PoV-sway readers with an editorial opinion about what is most popular or important or notable among things with kinda-similar names from different time periods. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
June thanks
story · music · places |
---|
Thank you for improving article quality in June! - Today we have a centenarian story (documentation about it by Percy Adlon) and an article that had two sentences yesterday and was up for deletion, and needs a few more citations. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:01, 20 June 2024 (UTC)