User talk:Sérgio R R Santos

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Happy editing! Peaceray (talk) 22:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

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ok, thank you; i should create the page but since i'm too lazy i'll just remove the link. Also i don't know if i should respond to a bot. Sérgio R R Santos (talk) 21:43, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Portuguese pronunciations

Hello!

I noticed that you have been changing IPA transcriptions of Portuguese names. The {{IPA|pt}} code links to Help:IPA/Portuguese and follows the conventions listed there in order to help readers who are unfamiliar with IPA and/or the language. I invite you to refrain from making edits that contradict said conventions and rather open a discussion at Help talk:IPA/Portuguese if you wish to change them.

Best regards :) ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 14:22, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, yes, i've been warned before and i wont make any more changes until i discuss it in the talk page. By the way, and i'm not sure if you're the right person to ask, but is there a way for the IPA-pt module to output slanted slashes (/.../) for phonemic notation? The current one apparently only outputs phonetic notation ([...]) which i find really frustrating.Sérgio R R Santos (talk) 15:36, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh, awesome! As far as I can see the {{IPA}} template (which should be preferred to the now deprecated {{IPA-pt}}) doesn’t support that, and it makes sense since we normally use it for stricter/phonetic IPA. You could request that the template be expanded though. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 15:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Well the english one does that, and it probably isnt very difficult to achieve but since i'm not much of a programming guy i'll have to ask domeone to do it. Sérgio R R Santos (talk) 15:48, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

The English one points to a diaphonemic key that is conceived to cover several varieties of the language, so that’s the reason behind it. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 15:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Well in portuguese it would be helpful because the actual phonetic realisation of words can be radically different from the phonemic one. Sérgio R R Santos (talk) 15:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

(Ah, and by the way: we now use the even more specific {{IPA|pt-PT}} and {{IPA|pt-BR}} for IPA that is exclusive to European or Brazilian Portuguese. This changes the categorization of the page the template is used in.) ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 15:46, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi again, Sérgio. Hope you’re doing fine. I just noticed the tone you used in your recent posts and I would advise you to look into WP:CIV before it gets you into something. A certain conduct is pretty severely frowned upon, especially when reiterated or when it deteriorates, and speaking aggressively is only going to work against you. I’m telling you now because the points you make are meaningful and worth discussing, but users are not going to engage productively with someone who starts a thread venting their hate for whoever may be responsible for the state of an article or the current consensus. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 23:03, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning, but can you provide me an example where i acted in such a way? Sérgio R R Santos (talk) 23:29, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• “including our fucking president”
• “Lol, you've got to be kidding with that argument”
• “for christ's sake”
• “what the fuck?”

This language and attitude is not helpful. I understand if you’re feeling frustrated, but this will only further alienate other users. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 23:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that most of those are just expressions not directed at any user in particular. I didn't know the wikipedia comunity was so sensitive. Also, just an aside, the page you linked that talks about civility includes a quote from Schopenhauer, who was a notorious hypocritical douchebag. I don't find the use of swearewords to be particularly offensive, unless if used as insults against other users, which again, I didn't do. But then again, thanks for the warning and I'm going to try to be as much of a gentleman as I can! But sometimes, I just can't resist using a swearword or two; that's why they were invented, to provide expressivity! Anyway, if I fuck up or go too far, feel free to warn me again. Like most other people on this website, i'm just trying to improve it. Cheers, and all the best. Sérgio R R Santos (talk) 00:06, 20 August 2024 (UTC)