User talk:Rgojoey
June 2018
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AfC notification: Draft:Sovereign people has a new comment
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MfD nomination of Draft:Sovereign people
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Draft:Sovereign people, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Sovereign people and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:Sovereign people during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Ad Orientem (talk) 23:54, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Some friendly advice
[edit]Wikipedia does not penalize editors for the opinions or beliefs, even very odd ones, or ones that are widely rejected. BUT... we do require that everyone here understands that this is an online encyclopedia that is edited by millions of people and that in order to prevent chaos certain policies and guidelines have been adopted by the community. In order to edit here you have to abide by them. You cannot come here and edit in a non neutral manner (see WP:NPOV) or with an agenda. See WP:AGENDA. All claims of fact must be backed by reliable secondary sources. See WP:CITE and WP:RS. Right now virtually all of your editing has suggested that you have an agenda and furthering it is your primary reason for being here. If this does not change, you are likely to end up being blocked. Now if you want to argue that the article on Sovereign Citizens lacks balance or fails WP:NPOV, you can do that though I don't think you will succeed. You need to start on the article talk page and cite commentary from reliable secondary sources, not primary sources with your interpretation. When there is a content dispute the way it is resolved is through WP:CONSENSUS. CONSENSUS is the closest thing we have to an article of religious dogma here. We live and die by it. And those who can't, or won't, are shown the door. Your odd political views are not ipso facto fatal here. But if you can't divorce your conduct from them then your tenure is going to be very short. As someone whose political views are at least as strange as yours, I know of what I speak. If you need help drop me a line (see my talk page link next to my signature). -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:22, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
I never said nor hinted that editors should be penalized, that I my edits are not neutral, have an agenda (as does the "Sovereign citizen movement" page). The data I provided is backed by the stated sources. I have said over and over that, as you said, "Sovereign citizens lacks balance or fails". Content disputes by majority vote do NOT change the information to a truth. Majority rules does not = reality. My political views are not the subject nor have I given any. The "other side" of the sovereign citizen is all I provided backed by actual current law. Nothing "odd" here except the emotional and exaggerated responses to my comments. Rgojoey (talk) 21:37, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
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Disruptive Editing
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Warning Please desist in making political arguments on the user talk pages of multiple editors. Wikipedia is not a forum for such debates. Disregarding this guideline is considered a specie of disruptive editing. We have an article on the Sovereign Citizens movement. I have already provided you with links to the relevant guidelines and policies. However I must remind you, emphatically, that while you may discuss the article and make suggestions on how to improve it within the scope of our policies and guidelines, Wikipedia is not a political debating society. I am becoming concerned that you either do not understand our guidelines or are simply choosing to ignore them. Competency is required to edit the encyclopedia. If you are unable, or unwilling to abide by the community's standards you may lose your editing privileges. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:10, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at User talk:Orangemike, you may be blocked from editing. Reliable sources means reliable sources, not gibberish cut-and-pasted from some scamster or crackpot website. Almost none of those was an actual reference; and the ones that were, led to: cases that don't mean what the "sovereigns" claim they mean; big fat chunks of matter utterly irrelevant to the subject; and content blindingly contradictory to everything the sovereigns assert. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:07, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
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The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.
Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you that sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.Ian.thomson (talk) 03:22, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
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