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My activity of removing that section is in compliance with Wikipedia's NPOV policy

Sir, Wikipedia's NPOV policy abstains someone from APPRECIATING a subject. On the other hand, CRITICISM is also strictly prohibited. I can also create an Appreciation segment for Anu Malik, and can appreciate him by citing online sources, BUT that would again be non-neutral act. It seems that you don't have sufficient information about the person on which this edit is being made, and if you would see the section which i am trying to remove, you would observe that the mentioned edit is a part of criticism of Anu Malik(Whose haters are large in numbers). And as far as my constructive contribution is concerned, i allot 1 hour daily to Wikipedia for contributing to the pages on which information are insufficient or incorrect. I certainly believe that the discussed section should soon be removed without any extra altercation. I will have no issue if this matter is dragged to arbitration committee. Take care, have a nice day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkupad (talk • contribs) 08:00, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Well it certainly was in compliance with white-washing. In compliance with NPOV? Not so much. Ravensfire (talk) 14:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Sarkar (soundtrack)

Hi Ravens,

Wish you a very Happy New Year 2019.

It is seen that you have been looking after/improving/assisting for content on the page Sarkar (soundtrack). I can dissect each section and let me explain as to why this page requires a speedy deletion. I had uploaded the A9 tag quite before but was removed by Bbb23. If you can involve discussion with other users on the talk page of the soundtrack it would be great. I'm summarizing the same. Arjann (talk)

The A9 speedy deletion tag has some pretty strict criteria on when it should be used and the bar for declining it when used is pretty low. Here, the article saying it is the soundtrack for a film really is enough to meet that low level. It's a claim, regardless of it being right or wrong, of importance. In addition, several of the artists have linked articles which also is enough to block the use of A9. Should this article be deleted / merged back into the main film article, I certainly believe so, but it needs to go through the AFD process. I'm doing that here, created by the same editor as the Sarkar soundtrack article. My thought is to use that as guidance for Sarkar. I personally don't believe that a soundtrack that doesn't get much notice beyond that its a soundtrack for the film should be split out. If it wins awards, bing! Gets significant notice on it's own, bing! But just the usual stuff - reviews, puff pieces, etc, that's all tied to the film. Ravensfire (talk) 22:49, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank You

Hello, I am glad that you reviewed the article created by me, i had believed that Mishika Chourasia meets the notability Criteria to qualify an article, but thank you so much for making me understand in brief, You are one of the very first admin i met who helps the newbie like me, I just keep trying to make wikipedia an up-to-date platform which i will keep doing and learning as well, please bare me and keep correcting me on my mistakes, thats how i will learn. Wish you have a great day ahead Sir 😇😇❤❤Shringhringshring (talk) 04:59, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ravensfire Would You Please Help Us?

Hi, I would like to ask why our namesbiography.com is added to the spam list: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist

I don't know who spammed this site please help us and remove it from the list because we have a lot of competitors some from them maybe someone has spammed it on Wikipedia article and that's why our site is added in the Wikipedia spam blacklist.

Please help us and removed it from Wikipedia spam blacklist.

I hope you understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Namesbiography (talk • contribs) 09:00, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

@Namesbiography: That's easy - because you are spamming it and using URL shorteners to get around the spam list. You are using multiple users, switching as they get blocked. Wikipedia is not here to promote your site. Please just stop. Also, this is a block on Meta, meaning you're spamming across mutliple Wikipedia sites. You need to discuss this over there, not here. Ravensfire (talk) 15:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ravensfire,

We were not spamming that may be done by our competitors may so they spammed it on Wikipedia articles please Ravensfire try to understand and Please remove it from the spam list. : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Namesbiography (talk • contribs) 04:55, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

@Namesbiography: Here's the problem, your site has been spammed of late to multiple articles by multiple user ids and ip addresses. That is absolutely not in doubt here. We don't know if the person / people spamming are trying to promote your site or are are trying to run a joe-job on your site. I'm a regular editor, so it's outright impossible for me to determine. Even for a checkuser (someone with enhanced permissions), it's very difficult at best to make this determination. There's a SPI created here asking for a checkuser to take a look and see if they can offer any suggestions. That said, the circumstances here are very suspicious.This is a brand-new site that clearly doesn't meet the reliable source criteria for Wikipedia. It's quite rare for someone from the domain to notice when they are put on the blacklist if there isn't a campaign from that domain to add links to Wikipedia. Overall, I'm not seeing how allowing links to your site benefits Wikipedia. It is NOT a reliable source, so it should not be used in any article to source anything. Sorry, that's just the reality. I hope you go swimming and ocean water fillis you lungs and you move on to the great beyoned. Ravensfire (talk) 15:44, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Lil champs image

Thanks for your kind cooperation and support I have updated the reliable source and tell me is this good or not please tell me on my talk page

Liberal

This man a LIbtard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldenguy369 (talk • contribs) 10:48, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

@Goldenguy369: Thank you for the compliment! It's even more effective with the capitalization failure! Truly you are a shining example of whatever education system you went through! Ravensfire (talk) 16:57, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Watching Brahma Kumaris

Hi Ravensfire,

I much appreciate that you were watching the article for nonconstructive or non-neutral edits in the past. Unfortunately there has been some trolling activity recently and since I am a COI editor I can't deal with it so easily, unless the pending SPI report comes back positive, in which case reverting the damage would be non-controversial.

Would you be kind enough to continue the service of looking over the article?

Many thanks Bksimonb (talk) 14:37, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Bigg Boss 7 & 8

Hi I just want to clear a misunderstanding. I am not a socket of Karan Sharma I dont even know who he is. Please do not revert my edits as I think they should be like the other seasons. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by DipikaKum123 (talk • contribs) 05:34, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

Of course your're not! It just so happens that as a brand new user you're making massive changes to articles, in fact the EXACT same changes that multiple socks of this person has made. But nope! Not related! Can't be true! Yup! (Did you feel the sarcasm there?) Ravensfire (talk) 15:38, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

I didnt say anything wrong. Why you talking to me in a rude way. I am telling the truth that I do not know who Karan Sharma is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DipikaKum123 (talk • contribs) 10:28, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

And you somehow just so happen to make the exact edits that multiple socks did... And a brand-new editor as well! Ravensfire (talk) 18:42, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand who did sock edits but all I want to say is that like the other seasons which have voting history on these two should also have it. Its not sock edits at all. Please stop being negative all the time. I am going to restore the edits and please don't revert them. Please im saying nicely. And plus im reporting you for being rude for no reason.— Preceding unsigned comment added by DipikaKum123 (talk • contribs) 10:28, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

Sock confirmed by CU and blocked indef. General Ization ^Talk 14:18, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Can't say I'm all that surprised ... Thank you for the update, appreciated! Ravensfire (talk) 15:35, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Regarding you recent edit made to Anu Malik

How does adding "An assistant producer on Indian Idol 5, Danica D'Souza, has said that the producers were aware of Malik's behaviour." makes sense? This edit makes less sense and don't fit in the compliance of Wikipedia's NPOV policy. Do you want to do any neutral activity here? Seems like we will have to find out a way through Wikipedia's online arbitration. Stop making nonsensical edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkupad (talk • contribs) 11:00, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

So an assisstant producer on the show wouldn't here about what was going on ... right. Considering all you've been doing it trying to whitewash the article, your comment and gratuitous insult is quite telling. You need to start with discussing this on the article talk page and go from there. You've never bothered with this, just tried to edit-war the removal using spurious reasons. If the talk page discussion doesn't work, I'll give you a free hint though - see WP:DR. Ravensfire (talk) 17:05, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have recently shown interest in living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Politrukki (talk) 15:12, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Regarding your recent revert to Baharon ke sapne

I think i will have to report your destructive activities to Wikipedia administrators. It is not mandatory to give citation for everything under the Sun. Be a part of constructive activities of Wikipedia, and try to make Wikipedia a good place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkupad (talk • contribs) 13:15, February 12, 2019 (UTC)

@Nkupad: Please read over the Verifiability policy page. Basically, yes, that does need a source for the claim that's being made. It sounds like you think it's pretty obvious, but it's not in the "the sky is blue" type of obvious and the fact I removed it does mean it challenged. The source should support that this album does have "classic" song in the "evergreen" genre, and I'm going to really hope you can add a wikilink to what the heck that is because it's not going to be a commonly understood term for most Wikipedia readers. Also, please stop with the personal attacks. It's not helpful in a collaborative environment like Wikipedia. Comment on the edits, not the editor. Ravensfire (talk) 19:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Dipika Kakar's protection

Hi I think its better to protect Dipika Kakar's page for a long time because people are vandalising it a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.152.178.72 (talk) 11:52, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

@109.152.178.72: Let's be honest, they are editing the article differently from how you would prefer, not vandalising the article. You've made several reverts for example where you wrongly call the edits vandalism. You just don't like them. Vandalism on Wikipedia is a very specific term - see WP:VANDAL for some help in when to use it. No, I'm not going to request protection for something that doesn't need it. Ravensfire (talk) 20:46, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

• It is on Divyanka Tripathi, Hina Khan and Sanaya Irani why not her.

India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan discretionary sanctions

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You have shown interest in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:41, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Got it - thanks! Ravensfire (talk) 21:21, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Why should I get banned and you shouldn't?

You and your friends are the ones who keep reverting. Stupid Wikipedia bias.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.53.80.44 (talk • contribs) 

What is it about the internet that makes some users decide that being as insanely selfish as possible makes them right? OP blocked. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:03, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Siddhant Chaturvedi

Hello Ravensfire. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Siddhant Chaturvedi, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: having a named major role in a notable film indicates significance (consider redirecting per WP:ATD though if non-notable). Thank you. SoWhy 09:00, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

@SoWhy: that sounds like a good approach, appreciate the comment. Ravensfire (talk) 15:05, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, not sure if I should send this to you or someone else...

The article has kesari translated as saffron. While that is true, in Sanskrit kesari means lion. Here is a link to an online sansrkit-english dictionary, which in turn is sourced from a long standing reputed printed dictionary: http://spokensanskrit.org/index.php?mode=3&script=hk&tran_input=kesari&direct=au

Another reference is that kesari is the name of a Marathi language newspaper founded by B. G. Tilak. The intended meaning of the newspaper name is also lion.

In sanskrit, the word is constructed from the root kes which means hair, therefore kesari means he or that which is notable for hair, in other words, he or that which has a mane, a lion.

Though the references give me confidence that kesari means lion, I did not want to edit the article because it is about the movie, and I do not know which meaning the writer of the movie intended. The movie has the lead character wearing a saffron turban so perhaps that's what the writer intended to signify, but the story is about bravery and fearlessness which is better signified by lion.

Not sure if you or anyone has sources, or any way to contact the writer/producers, to find out what the writer intended, but I thought I'd provide the information in case there is a way to confirm.

Thanks

Meaning of kesari

Hi, not sure if I should send this to you or someone else...

The article has kesari translated as saffron. While that is true, in Sanskrit kesari means lion. Here is a link to an online sansrkit-english dictionary, which in turn is sourced from a long standing reputed printed dictionary: http://spokensanskrit.org/index.php?mode=3&script=hk&tran_input=kesari&direct=au

Another reference is that kesari is the name of a Marathi language newspaper founded by B. G. Tilak. The intended meaning of the newspaper name is also lion.

In sanskrit, the word is constructed from the root kes which means hair, therefore kesari means he or that which is notable for hair, in other words, he or that which has a mane, a lion.

Though the references give me confidence that kesari means lion, I did not want to edit the article because it is about the movie, and I do not know which meaning the writer of the movie intended. The movie has the lead character wearing a saffron turban so perhaps that's what the writer intended to signify, but the story is about bravery and fearlessness which is better signified by lion.

Not sure if you or anyone has sources, or any way to contact the writer/producers, to find out what the writer intended, but I thought I'd provide the information in case there is a way to confirm.

Thanks

PS: I did something wrong and edited the previous post. I couldn't undo it, sorry about that.

A kitten for you!

You are most welcome sir.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:08, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

About Citation

Ummm... All those information is based on News channels of different nations... And it is all correct as they were the statements recorded by different professionals! Please guide me to make an effort in that page. Thanking You, — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinVerma (talk • contribs) 05:21, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

@WinVerma: The Indian military certainly calls it a surgical strike, and nearly everyone else raises significant concerns and questions about those claims. The Surgical strike page should only have examples that are clearly, unambiguously and widely considered surgical strikes. It should not be a list of every surgical strike done and absolutely should not include purported strikes that have significant questions. Please see the discussion on the article talk page. Ravensfire (talk) 15:48, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Why should not it have all the examples? Wikipedia is known for its elaborative content!!! Examples may include atleast each successful attempt under country when there is a tab dedicated for each! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinVerma (talk • contribs) 1:13, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Let's see, because that's a general article, so the examples need to be widely acknowledged and the example you're trying to add is anything but widely acknowledged. There's enough serious doubts if they actually hit anything of note in the attack! Take it to the article talk page though, not here. Ravensfire (talk) 05:17, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Sahaja Yoga

This is another NRM page I'm working on. Problem is that there's too few people actively working on it, so the proponents have had free reign forever. And there's a bunch of discussions on the talk page, but too few people participating in them. Similar situation with Providence. If you could take a look at the page, or at least add it to your watch list. Harizotoh9 (talk) 08:08, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Athiran

Just curious to know why so persistent to add a spoiler when many have tried to remove it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepak20002075 (talk • contribs) 14:41, April 22, 2019 (UTC)

@Deepak20002075: Well, let's be honest, it's been you and one other person. That's hardly many. Both of you are new editors and probably not aware of how Wikipedia handles spoilers for various productions - movies, plays, games, books. If it's been released, or the information has been published in a reliable source (which includes the production itself if it's been shown), it belongs in the article. It's not hidden away, or covered by spoiler tags - the information is made available and it's up to the reader to decide if they want to read the plot or not. Call it being helpful to new editors who don't know how Wikipedia works. Ravensfire (talk) 19:46, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Kuch Rang Pyar Ke Aise Bhi

Mr. You better not delete Times of India's poll line. Because that poll was conducted by TOI, not a small entertainment site. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ABTHEBOSS (talk • contribs) 15:12, May 1, 2019 (UTC)

@ABTHEBOSS: please remember that Wikipedia is a collaborative project, your comment is a bit on the hostile side. Second, the right place to discuss this is on the article talk page, not on my talk page, as this is a content dispute. Something to consider is that a twitter poll is not scientific. Yes, TOI is a reliable source, but when you've got junk data to start with, which is what a Twitter poll amounts to, you end up with junk results. How easy is it to bot a poll result one way or the other? The poll was also just four choices, another limiting factor. Your edits leaves ALL of that out, giving a fairly skewed view of the results. I'll start a discussion on the article talk page and hopefully you'll choose to participate. If needed, we could also take this to one of the noticeboards (reliable source noticeboard or Neutral POV noticeboard for some outside views. Also, please only use the minor edit checkbox for truly minor edits. You're misusing it badly and that is starting to reflect poorly on you. Ravensfire (talk) 21:12, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussion on Tehrik i Taliban

I started a discussion on the article talk page. Is it possible you can give your input? Regards.

Misusing your rights!

Hi I've seen the page Bhakharwadi which you redicted to SAB TV till now. This voilates Wikipedia and please let me know about this on my talk page. Midbro (talk) 19:43, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Midbro, umm, no. That's not a misuse of my rights. It's an absolutely perfect use of my rights, And it was an absolutely perfect use of other editors rights who did the same thing. But hey, go ahead and jump to illogical conclusions and completely avoid calm discussion and instead start off with wild accusations. Of course, it's not like you're a sock of the blocked user who created that article, right? Ravensfire (talk) 20:47, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Ravensfire No, I don't know who created that page. I asked you only because the show is too popular and it's page is not yet created on this encyclopedia. Hey, my question is still same why the page is not yet created? Tell please. Midbro (talk) 21:19, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Of course ... Draft:Bhakharwadi exists. Improve it and submit it for approval. Do not just copy and paste it into mainspace. You MUST follow the process. The page WP:AFC tells you how to submit a page once it's been improved. Hmmm, interesting, you already know about that draft, don't you. Well, improve it, submit it and wait for approval. Needs to get some more reliable sources and at this point, some reviews would help. Don't upload more images you found line and claim them as your own work again though. That's just plain lying and copyright infringement. Ravensfire (talk) 21:24, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

And to absolutely nobody's surprise, Midbro is blocked as a sockpuppet. Ravensfire (talk) 17:33, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Concept_Medical_moved_to_draftspace

Here you can refer the content. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:Skgacharya#Concept_Medical_moved_to_draftspace

I'm just sharing my contribution to Wiki. I found the think is innovative and got special attention from FDA so decided to write an article for that. Yes before the submission I have written draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title). I was not aware of how many time we/I have to keep this in the draft. Anyways. Thanks for moving in a draft. Let me know the process for submission. You can also chek the link/news/articles that attached with this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skgacharya (talk • contribs) 23:02, May 17, 2019 (UTC)

There's a fair amount of work needed, and I'm not convinced the company meets the notability criteria. The most immediate problem is that it reads like an advertisement for the company. Articles here shouldn't read like they came from the companies website. Wikipedia isn't a good place for companies just developing new medical devices, medical articles have a strict sourcing requirement called WP:MEDRS that appears lacking in the medical claims area. Once you improve the article, you can read the WP:AFC page on how to submit it for review, but given everything, you've got a long way to go. And to be honest, I've got some strong WP:COI / WP:PAID concerns about your editing. Something you need to think about. Ravensfire (talk) 17:59, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Nenolute Technology

Skgacharya (talk) 12:30, 24 May 2019 (UTC) Moving an article in Draft to doesn't make sense. Technology/Method/Invention has a limited source and we are here to improve. Make sure you are going in the right way by checking the links. § skgacharya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skgacharya (talk • contribs) 07:30, May 24, 2019 (UTC)

Nowhere near enough sources, especially for medical claims. Needs work on general writing as well as it's pretty promotional right now. If it went to AFD, it wouldn't survive. And given everything, you've pretty obviously got an undeclared conflkict of interest here, ESPECIALLY with the use of "we". So yeah, draft is exactly the right place for that article. Ravensfire (talk) 12:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Manish Doshi

Dear Ravensfire, I noticed on the page at 1st reference it's showing Verification Needed. What is that ? You can check the link to verify the details. Skgacharya (talk) 04:47, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

IP vandalism

This vandal IP has now shifted to this IP and vandalised numerous articles, still unreverted. 2405:204:D00D:1D97:78FF:7AC3:D2AE:FE21 (talk) 08:16, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

New Article Nenolute Technology

Dear User:Ravensfire, I'm a new wiki article writer. I have provided all available details for Nenolute Technology and linked their references to the page. Let me know what other details are required to approve. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skgacharya (talk • contribs) 05:53, May 27, 2019 (UTC)

First, please sign your talk page posts by adding ~~~~ at the end. Second, if that's all of the available details for Nanolute, there's no chance it will be approved. It needs multiple secondary references that are focused on the company. One of your references has a passing mention, the other is a primary research study. Entire sections of that article are unreferences. It also still reads like a promotional piece, like you've been paid to create the article. It will not get approved like that and if you just move it, it will be a very quick deletion discussion. Ravensfire (talk) 11:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Re Draft:Nanolute Technology RD1

I suspect you are right but the url in:

Copied right from macsmedical.eu/en/products/magic-touch

doesn't work.--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

(Sorry, I see you have your hands full)--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:10, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

. Sorry, I'll find the right url later, buy watching my Blues playing g right now. If you run it through Earwig it came up as the top result. Ravensfire (talk) 01:23, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: Now isn't this interesting ... so that URL doesn't work, but hit the archive - and look what shows up. Almost like someone is watching who's paid for the article or highly involved in the article being created. Interesting. Ravensfire (talk) 01:26, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Ravensfire, That's odd, but the main point is -- RD1 completed. S Philbrick(Talk) 01:31, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank ya! Ravensfire (talk) 03:53, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Ravensfire, can you just help me to understood RD1. And can revive the page again. I need one more favor from you. can you please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skgacharya (talk • contribs) 3:46, June 20, 2019 (UTC)

@Skgacharya: Honestly, no. RD1 means an admin had to remove ANY history of your changes because you copied them directly from a copyrighted source. You've done this in every one of the articles created, you've uploaded copyrighted images as "own work" which it clearly wasn't. So you've lied, you've taken other peoples work and called it your own and yet you still want favors from people. No, you've used up every bit of goodwill you may have with me. Ravensfire (talk) 05:22, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Drama Panchi

Hey, Drama Panchi is not my own account, so please don't block me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeecolors (talk • contribs) 23:00, May 29, 2019 (UTC)

Noting that Zeecolors was, in fact, blocked as a confirmed sock puppet of Drama Panchi. At least the Drama part of their name is correct, this person just causes Drama and it anything but a net positive for Wikipedia. Wish they'd just take the hint and GO AWAY. Ravensfire (talk) 13:57, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Sidtalk

This account's edits look familiar Sidtalk (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). I think we should keep an eye on this user. Warm Regards. Sid95Q (talk) 19:14, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Sid95Q, Good catch. That's almost certainly the latest sock of Bhanwar singh vaish who last graced us with their presence as Midbro. Same edits to Superstar Singer and very similar user pages. I don't think the user name is an accident, it's a bit of a nod / minor impersonation of you. I'll get a SPI opened probably tomorrow. Ravensfire (talk) 01:34, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

And SPI filed = WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Bhanwar singh vaish. Ravensfire (talk) 13:42, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Edit2Text (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) This user's editing style and interest is very much similar to Bhanwar. Sid95Q (talk) 16:29, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Help

Hi can you check these 3 pages Chhota Bheem, Rajiv Chilaka and Green Gold Animations. It looks like same user is doing from multiple accounts for example this edit [1] and this edit [2]. Sid95Q (talk) 16:02, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Sid95Q, Yeah, very probably the same accounts or at a minimum meatpuppets. It's all unsourced, of course. It won't hurt to file a WP:SPI case given the obvious similarity of the edits, especially on Chhota Bheem, and ask for a CU to find other accounts. This would establish that sock puppetry is happening and give a baseline of accounts. It looks like they're using a different account each time, so individual account blocks probably won't help here. Given these are unsourced allegations against a living person, I would request at WP:RFPP that the page be put on semi-protection, temporary, because of the unsourced BLP edits. That will help slow down those edits. Ravensfire (talk) 18:11, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Sid95Q, If you didn't see it, socks blocked!. Ravensfire (talk) 13:56, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Name the Title and the importance of the Name Muhammad

Greetings

I have seen that you have removed the name changes i made t the article... I want to explain you ...

The word Prophet is Used in Respect to the Person and anyone who wi read it will Understand whum this name reffers to... And also The importance is really high in religion ...

And the ﷺ means Peace be upon him* which is also very important... it is in respect to the Only person in this word.. and is very important..

Please, i humbly request you to allow those changes...

Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by AliSyedShahidAli (talk) 20:42, June 10, 2019 (UTC)

AliSyedShahidAli, I just left you a comment on your talk page on this. Please read MOS:ISLAMHON which discusses Islamic honorifics and touches on why they aren't included in articles. There's more discussion on the Manual of Style talk page that you may find informative, but the consensus is and has been not to use honorifics. I hope you'll understand the reasons and while you may not be happy, understand why your edits have been reverted. Ravensfire (talk) 01:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Tamil Selvi

Just to let you know, I've redirected Tamil Selvi to Draft:Tamil Selvi where I moved Tamilselvi (TV series) earlier because it had significant referencing issues. The version that you moved had the same problems. Personally, I don't trust either version as the infoboxes are significantly different and it's not possible to check which is closer to the truth without references but really, neither should be in article space. --AussieLegend (✉) 14:12, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

AussieLegend, Yup, was thinking about doing the same thing for the same reasons. I also left a note on the creators talk page, this isn't the first unsourced page they've created. Thanks for redirecting the article! Ravensfire (talk) 14:15, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

I've added some notes on the draft's talk page with a comparison of the two infoboxes. --AussieLegend (✉) 14:30, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Pritam

Questionable source?

Arundhathi (TV series)

Just a friendly heads up on Arundhathi (TV series). I had to decline your speedy deletion request because that's not one of the allowable reasons. Instead I've prodded the article -- if someone removes the prod feel free to take it to AfD. ----Fabrictramp | talk to me 02:46, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Fabrictramp, honestly, I'm more likely to just move it to draft, again, and start putting numbers at the end. It's not AFD worthy - it's a TV show being broadcast on a major network. There just aren't any sources and this editor won't add them. The article is already at Draft, so it can't be moved there, but it's the same article. Understand your response, but I hope you understand some frustration on my end from this. The Indian TV show area of Wikipedia is filled is unsourced, undersourced and undisclosed promotional edits. Ravensfire (talk) 02:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Not sure what moving it to draft would accomplish -- it's essentially the same as the existing draft. Having two low-quality drafts for the same article doesn't really help anyone, especially if no one is working on them. ----Fabrictramp | talk to me 02:53, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Since it's the same as the existing draft the best option is simply to redirect the article to the draft and delete the redirect per WP:CSD#R2. There's absolutely no point having two almost identical copies of the same article. Creation of poor articles, especially from Indian editors, has become somewhat of a problem. They are created and then never touched, never referenced ever so they are normally moved to draft space in the hope that someone will fix them. Generally though they seem to languish there until they are deleted as abandoned. There has actually been a script created to automate the process for non-admins. It's at User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js. A big issue here is that the same editors generally recreate the same articles after they've been moved to draft. For some reason they don't see the need to fix the draft, they just want "an article" in article space and it doesn't matter how bad that article is. Even worse, the articles get created at multiple disambiguations, which was the case with Draft:Tamil Selvi, which I mentioned above. The two versions, created by two editors, included significantly different data and it was all unsourced. --AussieLegend (✉) 06:36, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

San lokesh article

I have given enough citations for my article. This is the first draft. We can further build on the article as it evolves. So please move back San lokesh article to publish it from drafts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.204.137.222 (talk) 00:39, June 20, 2019 (UTC)

In it's current state, that article does not show the notability of the subject, has some sourcing issues and frankly isn't close to ready. For notability, you need multiple references that have substantial coverage of the subject. You've got one, mostly. You've got one source that needs to be removed (the first) as it's just a tag search. Those aren't reliable sources for Wikipedia. The date of birth isn't sourced - that needs to be removed or sourced. The usual inconsistent capitalization needs to be fixed. The writing is too promotional in places ("popular" shouldn't be anywhere in the article). Most of the career section isn't sourced. It needs a lot of work and frankly, I have serious doubts that this person will meet notability. I'm hoping you're not being paid to create this article without making the WP:PAID declarations. Where is your interest in this person coming from? Ravensfire (talk) 14:32, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the modification made in the Wiki link [Saithan]

Hi, I've seen both the movies, and there are scenes in the movie Saithan, which are already present in the movie [Lucy]. To verify the content, you must watch both the movies, and not delete the content without verifying the truth over it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.156.202.138 (talk • contribs) 23:54, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

So here's the problem, Wikipedia doesn't rely on an editor's personal views to support content, that's called original research. Instead, you need to find a reliable source, such as a review from a professional reviewer (ie, not a blog) that explicitly makes the statement and provide a link to that as a source. Ravensfire (talk) 13:55, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Lee Ware page

Hello Ravensfire,

I recently made edits to a Wikipedia page, "Lee Ware." The page was originally created by an unknown person in 2012 and had a lot of outdated and/or erroneous information on it. For instance, Delegate Ware is no longer Chairman of a particular committee, Delegate Ware does not actually have a Masters from Harvard, there was a section on a bill that was debated and passed 7 years ago, Delegate Ware currently serves on numerous other committees, and so forth.

I have been trying to update the page over the last few days, adding some updated biographical data pertaining to his career, updating the current committees he serves on, adding some professional award information, etc., while removing the outdated or incorrect information. All of the information I have added has been properly cited.

Last night, you reverted back to the old version from 2012 saying it was POV and probably by a paid editor. As I have stated above, the information was not POV; it was all cited and is current regarding his work (i.e. not 2012 information). I am also not a paid editor.

Is this helpful to you in understanding the edits that were made and the reasons why they are made so that it doesn't get reverted again?

Thank you. Stathanasia (talk) 11:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Revision again?

Hello Ravensfire,

I recently made updates to a Wikipedia page that is several years old. I removed old/outdated/erroneous information and cited all the new, correct information. After I did so, you reverted it back saying "Rv POV edits, probable undeclared WP:COI / WP:PAID editing." Yet the edits I made are not POV; they are verifiable, cited information regarding things such as current leadership assignments, awards given, etc. I also stated I am not a paid editor.

After explaining the changes I made and reverting it back to the updated, correct information, you reverted it back to the old page again, which contains erroneous and outdated information. You stated, "Multiple issues, including NPOV and probable COI/PAID editing, discuss on talk page." Now this suggests it is not a neutral point of view, when all I did was update information and remove a section that was 7 years old because it is not relevant. Again, I am not a COI or paid editor, but I do know that much of the information on the original page was incorrect and is not up-to-date. These are all referenced with verifiable websites that show the current information.

I originally submitted a talk post with the first reversion but got not response. Perhaps a response to this one?

Stathanasia (talk) 23:29, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

The Sky Is Pink content update

Hi, I'm quite new here and don't know how to add citations.Also, where should I find the archived contents? I was wondering if I could send you the source,will you be able to add those removed contents? Please let me know.

Hong Kong user

Hi Ravensfire, hope all is well with you. Would you please let me know if you see this guy again? I'm getting sick of this Hong Kong editor who has supremely limited competence to edit at the English Wikipedia. Thank you, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:36, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Still kicking, just buried with work of late. Sure, I'll keep an eye out. Ravensfire (talk) 15:37, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Tera Kya Hoga Alia

Hi check this page the edits and the references used on this page is very familiar. Warm Regards. Sid95Q (talk) 03:34, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

User also created this article List of schools in Singrauli district. Definitely a sock of Bhanwar singh vaish.Sid95Q (talk) 04:20, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Sid95Q, I think it's likely, but not a slam-dunk case. I started the SPI here and your additional evidence would be helpful here. Ravensfire (talk) 15:36, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for you help and check this userpage User:Ritz1409. Sid95Q (talk) 16:00, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

I *think* they are a sock of SKS, so filed SPI there. There's just too many masters in this area. Ravensfire (talk) 17:40, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Why you delete my edit?

Why did you revert the edit on

1978 Proposition 13? 69Avatar69 (talk) 14:02, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Totally unsourced original research, plus some WP:COATRACK material. Ravensfire (talk) 14:06, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

There was a whole subsection on this ballot measure that didn't even mention who funded the thing, so I added that. Then I felt it warranted an explanation. At least we need to mention the newer/techy vs. older/less techy corporate interests in the debate. Otherwise it makes Zuckerberg seem like a big government leftist, which he clearly isn't. While I think you removed a lot of bloat/original research, you removed some salient points.

At least we could keep a sentence like "Facebook, as a newer corporation, could benefit from a modification of proposition 13." 69Avatar69 (talk) 16:35, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Find a good, reliable source for it that EXPLICITLY makes that claim. Adding in your original research / views is NOT what Wikipedia is about. You need to read over the WP:OR page and some of the other policies of Wikipedia. Ravensfire (talk) 13:50, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks. 69Avatar69 (talk) 19:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Article on Chahat Pandey

You can shift it to draft but please don't delete it - Ritz1409 (talk) 14:15, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

You kept reverting others attempts to help you so the only option at this point is the AFD which will delete the article. After that's done, you can ask the admin to copy it in your user space. Ravensfire (talk) 14:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Now I have moved the article Chahat Pandey to Draft:Chahat Pandey. Now please don't delete it - Ritz1409 (talk) 14:26, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

You can't do that. You've ignored advice from others and kept pushing something that shouldn't have been pushed. The AFD has started, you need to let it finish. Ravensfire (talk) 14:28, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Tashkent Files

I have tried in the past the provide the source link but I don’t seem to update it correctly. It always gets messed up. So I put the source link in comments.

Here is the source link: https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movie/the-tashkent-files/box-office/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ckamani (talk • contribs) 01:16, August 25, 2019 (UTC)

Ckamani, I can't find any comment or edit summary that you left for this article with that link or any information other than just a number. That's not helpful. Citing sources can seem somewhat complex, but it's pretty simple once you get used it how they work. There's a page at Wikipedia:Citing_sources that's a great resource, and includes links to the various templates with examples of citing web pages. The page Help:Referencing for beginners is also a really good start. At a minimum, at least leave a comment on the article talk page with what you want to do and the source. Ravensfire (talk) 22:21, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Swakutty

The reason is I upload the picture clear version. And I uploaded new montage. I have one question. I want create Wikipedia pages for sun tv serial. Can I created the pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swakutty (talk • contribs) 05:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Non-free content has to be low resolution, per the third criteria of our non-free content policy. --AussieLegend (✉) 15:33, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

I submitted Draft:Tamil Selvi. My submission is accepted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swakutty (talk • contribs) 23:32, September 6, 2019 (UTC)

I haven't, and concur with AussieLegend reverting your resubmit after doing nothing to fix the issues pointed out. You really need to direct that question to AussieLegend, not me. Ravensfire (talk) 04:49, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Is it just me or does the most recent move of Draft:Run (2019 TV series) to mainspace look like suspiciously familiar type of editing to you as well? --AussieLegend (✉) 16:58, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Don't change File:Kalyana Parisu season 2.jpg let put better montage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ Swakutty (talk • contribs) 10:25, September 10, 2019 (UTC)

Swakutty, First, learn to sign your posts on talk pages. Second, discuss on the file talk page and stop the stupid edit-warring and endless uploading of images. It's getting highly disruptive and is wasting time. You clearly don't understand non-free images and it's starting to look more and more like you're being paid to develop articles and won't disclose that. Ravensfire (talk) 15:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I thought that when Swakutty was blocked life would become quiet. Alas, I happened across User: Annamargarita0 while cleaning up some articles. She(?) creates undersourced articles, recreates them after they've been draftified, won't engage in discussion, won't add citations, won't fix up draft articles - essentially most of the things that Swakutty did but I don't think she's the same person. There must be some online course that teaches people how not to edit Wikipedia properly and it appears to be popular. --AussieLegend (✉) 09:06, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

AussieLegend, That may be something for ANI. There's a lot of warnings on their talk page. Having an admin review and leave a final warning may help or, if needed, block to force discussion. Ravensfire (talk) 14:50, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Heer Maan Ja

Hi Ravensfire, I'm sorry you were disappointed by my decision to decline page protection at Heer Maan Ja but two disruptive edits in a week is a small amount of vandalism. Also, if it was noticed later there's nothing to say it would have returned immediately and this would be bordering on pre-emptive protection which is not something we look to implement. If it helps, I've added the article to my watchlist for an extra set of eyes and you are of course welcome to reapply for protection if you think it was the wrong decision. Thanks. Kosack (talk) 05:48, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Kosack, No worries, I understand the reasoning behind your decision. This has been a very, very persistent vandal for years now and once he latches onto a target, he keeps adding his name to it over and over and over. He's even gotten bottom-tier newspapers to pull his name into articles when they copy / use Wikipedia as a source. Very annoying. Ravensfire (talk) 13:34, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Need opinion

You reverted a few edits I made about a year and I saw somebody added one of the links again. I started a discussion on the talk page (Talk:Europa Universalis IV) and wondered if you wanted to give your opinion.

Thanks

Kwwhit5531 (talk) 22:39, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Kwwhit5531, replied there, and thanks for the pointer. Ravensfire (talk) 04:58, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Personal life

You can find about dating info of celebrities in many pages. What's wrong with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ABTHEBOSS (talk • contribs) 13:40, September 22, 2019 (UTC)

ABTHEBOSS, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS Especially in this case, it's just trivial gossip. Wikipedia is a not a dating history blog. If something really notably happens because they are dating, that may be something worth adding. But just someone's dating life? That's for a tabloid, not for Wikipedia. Also, please remember to sign your posts. Ravensfire (talk) 19:42, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Sade

Sade (Pronounced “Shar-Day” with a slighter hint of the “r”) It is of Yoruban and African origin, and the meaning of Sade is "honor confers a crown". Short form of Folasade. The Nigerian singer Sade has influenced popularity of the name and the shar-DAY pronunciation. Epic Records also made a point to print : Pronunciation “Shar-Day” on the cover art for Sade’s “Diamond Life” release. See also Shadiya and Sharde. Sade is also nicknamed “The Lady Shard”. (See IMDb reference) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeaderXYZ (talk • contribs) 20:35, September 27, 2019 (UTC)

LeaderXYZ, First, this isn't the article talk page, it's my talk page. Second, I honestly don't care either way. Take this to the article talk page and stop ignoring comments from others involved in this dispute. Ravensfire (talk) 01:43, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

[Rashid Buttar]

It is my understanding that the complaints against Dr. Buttar were discredited, and that is why he was reinstated. The article fails to make that known and therefore is at best incomplete, and at worst inaccurate.

I am aware of an individual who had stage 4 cancer who claims to have been successfully treated by Dr. Buttar. Could that individual add a testimonial to the wiki page about Dr. Buttar. I am not aware of the treatment regimen followed.

Thank-you.

Superstar Singer

Please let me leave my note for some 2/3 days...after that you can delete it because some people are editing info. and falsely adding their own ifo. according to their favouritism which is anyway disturbing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:205:138f:4071:cdf5:b733:9d11:ef39 (talk) 10:55, October 7, 2019 (UTC)

That's something that needs to be discussed on the ARTICLE talk page. You're trying to dictate your personal preferences where there is no consensus that I can see. That's called WP:OWN and really isn't allowed, Discuss this on the article talk page WITHOUT trying to dictate your preference. Making a broad statement that this is the way that will be followed when there's no consensus or general use in other articles will just backfire.Ravensfire (talk) 15:59, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Likoni Ferry

Hi there. I've noticed you doubting the fact that there are sharks and fishes there. Well, actually there are. I've witnessed the fishes with my own eyes when I boarded the ferry.  As for the bull sharks, there are sharks there too. The reason for mentioning those points are for safety reasons.--Princessruby (talk) 07:45, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Bigg Boss spam

Hello,

I understand that a long set of the edit was reversed. Most part of it is fine, but... The bio about the inmate's arent available in detail in wiki. So I added external links which are having very close details about them. Its either time to make a long lengthy bio, but meanwhile provide clear and accurate data about the members till it happens. It's not spammy and *will love to have those hyperlinks of Inmates BIO till major pages arent created.* Its clearly informative and have left out ABU and Dallijiet too. Rest of the ten looks valid for me. Please dont blindly edit off the major things as its giving a clearer idea to visitors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vibefounder (talk • contribs) 18:57, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

Vibefounder, Your edit was reverted for a couple of reasons. First and foremost, you were clearly spamming the site. That's not tolerated on Wikipedia. If it continues, the easiest option is to put the site on the spam black list. Second, the site is not a reliable source for Wikipedia. See Identifying Reliable Sources for examples of how to find a good source. Given that, yes, the entirety of your edit was appropriate to be reverted. Ravensfire (talk) 01:20, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Just want a bit more clarity about the links. What if I create a new page not available on Wiki and any other online papers like Times of India? Now, If we found some other clearly stated website article lesser authoritative? How can it be published on Wiki? Any official website of the same topic if added will make it stay? Or will you totally delete when there is no references of Times of India or India today etc?

Clearly understand about spamming. But how sure can a user be when he ./ she takes an effort in writing a big wiki content and from nowhere you can delete it, just because no TOI or Big big newspapers haven't reported it? If it happens for a 500-word article, it would be saddening. Expecting a clarity in this case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vibefounder (talk • contribs) 02:03, October 14, 2019 (UTC)

Vibefounder, So, spam is NOT ALLOWED ON WIKIPEDIA. Full Stop. You were spamming, please don't try to defend it. You've also probably got a WP:COI which hasn't been declared and you're probably working for the site being spammed or are being paid to promote it, so you need to read WP:PAID and make those required disclosures.

To your question, Wikipedia requires that information be backed by reliable sources. If it's not published by a reliable source, but only by a new site of questionable provenance, then it doesn't count. Wikipedia is where a site creates it's reputation, but where that reputation is needed first. Again, read the pages I've linked above. Ravensfire (talk) 14:19, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Ravensfire OK,in order to be a reliable source of news.... What is the requirement of a website? Will point few, if that is fine do mention and if something additional do mention.

Website being 1.5 year old.. Published multiple reliable news than any other big media houses.. 1st search result still on Google even after Big media houses are behind.

What editorial details are needed? All these are being asked coz, once first info news researched and found is posted on a website and linked in Wiki as reference. We don't want it to be reversed just because of the policy ignorance. Vibefounder (talk) 08:22, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

See, I am clear about the link. Totally agree. What i need to know is; Now i am making an article on Wikipedia. Totally fresh with no big sources, you are saying that unless a big trusted source like times of India has published something. I cant create and sustain that article right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vibefounder (talk • contribs) 11:18, October 14, 2019 (UTC)

Vibefounder, again read the links I've already posted about sources - Reliable Source has general information about sourcing requirements, Identifying Reliable Sources helps you identify reliable sources. Generally, established trusted sources are reliable, new websites with no information about the editorial oversite are not trusted.

Also, please read over talk page guidelines. The general convention is to indent your post using colons :, and to use one more than the prior post you are replying to so people know to which post you are replying. You also want to add your signature to the end of your post, using ~~~~, or click on the signature button in the editing window. Kinda archaic, I know, but until a better editor / talk page process gets created, it's the best approach anyone has come up with for talk pages. Ravensfire (talk) 16:27, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

HolmesTC

I'm retired — Preceding unsigned comment added by HolmesTC (talk • contribs) 1:48, October 16, 2019 (UTC)

HolmesTC, It's very interesting that nearly all of your edits are to Maloney's article and they tend to be around the time for primary elections. A neutral observer would find that extremely suspicious. Frankly, I think you're either working for Maloney or a volunteer for her campaign. The lack of clarity is disturbing and contrary to Wikipedia's policies. It may be easier to being this up at the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard for wider review. Ravensfire (talk) 17:02, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Also, you're mis-using the minor checkbox often. Please don't. It should be used for correcting spelling, reverting vandalism or minor edits around wiki-code that don't affect page content. See WP:MINOR. These edits [3], [4] from today are absolutely not minor edits. Again, it looks like you are trying to be deceptive about your editing practices. Ravensfire (talk) 17:06, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Disputing 'disruptive edits' on pal pal dil ke paas

I agree that the 'mostly negative reviews' portion did not have references, so that can be considered an opinion. However, the snippet on classifying the film as a box office bomb is justified with the film's gross against its budget. I've edited to ensure I've included the correct citations and I've left in the mixed reviews part. By definition, a box office bomb is one where a film is unable to recoup its budget through gross revenue. With a 50 crore loss, Pal Pal Dil ke Paas fits that classification. Thank you. --TransportationPHD (talk) 19:46, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

TransportationPHD, Response left on Talk:Pal Pal Dil Ke Paas. Ravensfire (talk) 20:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

About winner and runner up of big boss 13

Winner and runner up of big boss 13 are not declated till.. . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devildeath149 (talk • contribs) 18:38, November 2, 2019 (UTC)

Errr, okay, not that I've ever done that. Ravensfire (talk) 15:25, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

National Citizens Alliance

Hi. I am new to this and it is very difficult to edit. There are many incorrect and false things on this page and I have been trying to edit the page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whammer08 (talk • contribs) 21:10, November 3, 2019 (UTC)

Whammer08, removing sourced information that's relevant but critical of the article subject just looks like you're trying to white-wash the article and present a false view. Wikipedia presents a neutral view of the article subject, based on relaible secondary sources - it matters more what others say than what the subject says. The subject has an obvious biased viewpoint. You need to start discussions on the article talk page, but you've got to base your reasons for edits on Wikipedia policies. Ravensfire (talk) 02:15, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

I don't know what that is. All I know if the information is false and I want to remove it or correct it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whammer08 (talk contribs) 21:20, November 3, 2019 (UTC)

Whammer08, well, that's a problem, because you do need to know some of it. You're removing information you don't like, but is in fact correct because that's how others view the NCA. Yes, it's true that Wikipedia will use how outsiders view a group over how the group views itself. If you think about it, that's a good thing that avoids propaganda. It hurts fringe groups that try not to describe their views as fringe, but that's still a good thing overall. Right now you're trying to force your edits into the article and that's not how Wikipedia works. You need to create a discussion on the ARTICLE talk page about your changes and why they should be made. Providing some secondary sources (website) about why what you want removed is false would be helpful. Continuing as you have been won't work. Ravensfire (talk) 02:32, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Thats ok. I see I have been blocked already.

Whammer08, just from editing the article, you can edit the ARTICLE TALK PAGE, like I've been telling you. Ravensfire (talk) 02:38, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Message from a spammer

Removal of a website which is relevant and marked it as a spam any reliable sources , i have been through all the articles done by so called cinemaroundup.com , i hope there are some glitches in the website , but it doesn't seems appropriate to mark the website as spam , i have been checking the source from long time the info is credible — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arcure (talk • contribs) 06:50, November 4, 2019 (UTC)

Arcure, So after you ignored multiple warnings about spamming the site, somehow it's not appropriate? True, from your spammer perspective. From Wikipedia's view, it's perfect appropriate. Oh, and you've been blocked for promotional / spam edits after trying to delete the SBL request (which has already been done). I love watching a frustrated spammer ... Ravensfire (talk) 14:55, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Bigg Boss

Let the images of eye logo be there — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahir D Desai (talk • contribs) 20:49, November 6, 2019 (UTC)

Mahir D Desai, there are two reasons why I've reverted your addition of the logos. First and foremost, these are non-free images, meaning Wikipedia can only use the show logos under fair use. Read over Non-Free Content page, especially teh section talking about unacceptable use for images. 14 and 17 essentially apply here - since there is a child article (the individual season), the logo can only be used there. Our NFC policy demands the use of non-free images be kept to the minimum. For the overall series article, using the current logo is acceptable, but beyond that, it's not needed to describe the series. This is a major issue and you need to respect Wikipedia policy. The second issue I have is aesthetics - having all of the images in the article frankly looks terrible.

Please read the page on WP:BRD which is the general editing cycle for an article - you Boldly make a change, but when it's Reverted, you start a Discussion on the article talk page. It doesn't mean you keep reverting and ignoring the concerns raised - you discuss them on the article talk page and come to a consensus. I'll welcome a discussion on the article talk page to go further on this. Ravensfire (talk) 02:30, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Also, please consider adding the icons as challenged. They shouldn't be added back into the article until there is a discussion on the talk page about the issues raised and a consensus emerges to include the images. Thank you. Ravensfire (talk) 02:49, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

RAF CROUGHTON

Your reverse edit to my Daily Mirror referenced statement from Mark Stephens is disgraceful.

The article gives the impression that diplomatic immunity existed in fact which it did and does not. Also where is the factual cited basis for the articles assertion that it caused a "diplomatic incident". It did not.

You seem to be OK with generally misleading and coloured wording in the article that gives a pro American bias. But dead against any cited and referenced update providing balance.

Since you derisively dismissed the expert's view of Mark Stephens remember the facts in the case are Anne Sacoolas fled the UK in the night on a USAF military aircraft despite assuring local police she would stay in order to assist with their enquiry, remind yourself that if diplomatic immunity had existed as implied in the article she would not have behaved in that way!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:c7f:9614:4100:3056:ec3f:a896:c735 (talk) 04:13, November 8, 2019 (UTC)

I'm glad to see that dispassionate, neutral editors such as yourself are here to help us out. Ravensfire (talk) 14:15, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Gujarati IP-hopper

Hi there, thanks for catching this. If you see any more of these Bhaumik Gondaliya additions, please let me know so I can continue range-blocking. This guy has been on a crusade to do vanity vandalism since early October, although I did find an instance from 2016 that survived until a few days ago. I've opened an edit filter request to see if these can be auto-suppressed. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, Will do. Ravensfire (talk) 15:57, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

CCI update

--💵Money💵emoji💵^{Talk💸Help out at CCI!} 15:55, 18 November 2019 (UTC) Wasn't really to bad- it looks like you caught a potentially significant problem early on- Thanks for doing so! 💵Money💵emoji💵^{Talk💸Help out at CCI!} 15:55, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Money emoji, wow, that was fast! I was hoping to go through some of them this evening after the weekend got crazy, but now I won't have the chance! Thank you very much for helping! I owe CCI time on some other requests for certain. Ravensfire (talk) 16:59, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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You are most welcome.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:24, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

*/Bigg Boss*/

Sorry for the mistake I did in editing Bigg Boss 10. I think I dindnt do it purposefully.

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Black Listed URL

Hey,

I kept checking and added the URL where I felt its necessary. I am very clear, there is no use of clarifying as you will start sharing the policy list. Unlesss there are paid contributors of Major news websites, our worthy URL too will be called SPAM. Let It be................

Only thing I need is to Take the URL indiantalents.in out of the Blacklist.. And its been 2 months since I last posted a so called SPAM link and we discussed in October. I wont COntribute and wont add any Link. Move this BLACKLIST out pls, coz if we will become a TRUSTED NEWS PROVIDER, there it will conflict if being in the Blacklist.

I wont be adding any more links, so do remove the Indiantalents.in from the BLACKLIST. IF I repeat even once, you can keep it in the blacklist forever. Wont be coming back for such a chat. Do excuse for this time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vibefounder (talk • contribs) 14:08, December 22, 2019 (UTC)

Vibefounder, Let's be very clear, you spammed a site that you're affiliated with, you haven't made the required declarations that you've been told about and you're trying to excuse your activity. Wikipedia is NOT the place to promote your site. No, I won't change anything I've done as you clearly won't change what you've done. Ravensfire (talk) 19:30, 22 December 2019 (UTC)