User talk:Quequotion
- You may be getting this auto-message above you too because you're not really using the talk page for its intended use. Usually, when people want to write up a test article, they use the WP:SANDBOX or a WP:DRAFT. FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 18:35, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
- The talk page is the appropriate place to publicly defend edits is it not? As I am being forced to publicly defend my edits I feel it is appropriate. I can handle SineBot later.Quequotion (talk) 03:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- It's exactly as I just said; the talk page is for discussing the article, while the sandbox and draft space is more for recreating/reworking entire articles. I really wish you'd stop fighting me ever step of the way here. You'd get a lot more accomplished if you tried to learn how the website works and started assuming good faith of others. Sergecross73 msg me 12:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- You have no idea how long I've actually been editing Wikipedia, not that it matters. I'd rather not have had to even make an account (I prefer not to take credit) but I didn't think there'd be any possibility of discussing the matter without a username if it came to dispute resolution (which I did look into, but the request page doesn't seem to work). If you want better dialog with me, you're going to have to admit your own faults. I won't pretend to be guiltless, but this situation was just as much caused by Smuckola's behavior and yours. He should have commented about reverting my changes (and deleting half of the original article) immediately; you should have locked him out of editing the article along with me and not enforced his ownership of the article (yes, you really did that). Whatever your intentions were, your actions were as inappropriate as mine, moreso if one takes into account that you have a responsibility to maintain the neutrality of Wikipedia itself. I didn't want to have a fight; I wanted to improve an article. Quequotion (talk) 19:41, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- I have made no claim to know how long you've been editing, nor do I care. All I'm saying is that you seem to have very little understanding of how to write an encyclopedia article or of the website's policies and guideline, which does matter. You seem to have a hard time even understanding who edits what, as you have multiple time accused me of reverting your edits, when I have never done that, and a simple look at the "view history" tab proves it. I'm just saying you'd accomplish a lot more if you spent less time accusing, pointing fingers, and carrying on about injustices, and instead tried to learn more about how the website works. Its your choice, its up to you how much time you want to waste in being difficult. Sergecross73 msg me 20:19, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- You have no idea how long I've actually been editing Wikipedia, not that it matters. I'd rather not have had to even make an account (I prefer not to take credit) but I didn't think there'd be any possibility of discussing the matter without a username if it came to dispute resolution (which I did look into, but the request page doesn't seem to work). If you want better dialog with me, you're going to have to admit your own faults. I won't pretend to be guiltless, but this situation was just as much caused by Smuckola's behavior and yours. He should have commented about reverting my changes (and deleting half of the original article) immediately; you should have locked him out of editing the article along with me and not enforced his ownership of the article (yes, you really did that). Whatever your intentions were, your actions were as inappropriate as mine, moreso if one takes into account that you have a responsibility to maintain the neutrality of Wikipedia itself. I didn't want to have a fight; I wanted to improve an article. Quequotion (talk) 19:41, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- It's exactly as I just said; the talk page is for discussing the article, while the sandbox and draft space is more for recreating/reworking entire articles. I really wish you'd stop fighting me ever step of the way here. You'd get a lot more accomplished if you tried to learn how the website works and started assuming good faith of others. Sergecross73 msg me 12:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- The talk page is the appropriate place to publicly defend edits is it not? As I am being forced to publicly defend my edits I feel it is appropriate. I can handle SineBot later.Quequotion (talk) 03:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- You may be getting this auto-message above you too because you're not really using the talk page for its intended use. Usually, when people want to write up a test article, they use the WP:SANDBOX or a WP:DRAFT. FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 18:35, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
About rogue admins
[edit]Hi Quequotion. I've noticed that you've had a runin with a certain individual who seems to have little to no respect for Wikipedia's rules regarding conflicts of interest or civility. I just wanted to let you know that you're not the only person who has been under his thumb. If you intend on elevating the case, let me know, I'll do what I can. FYI, for the record this certain individual has been involved in everything from simple COI malfeasance all the way up to illegitimately closing a serious investigation into wikistalking. One of his friends was caught violating multiple Wikipedia policies against harassment, wikistalking and the no-personal-attack rule, but because of his intervention the stalker was allowed to perpetuate the behavior. Be careful though- a rogue admin on Wikipedia is a dangerous entity to deal with. Good luck! 67.139.40.166 (talk) 09:22, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi there. Sorry it took four years for me to get back to you. This particular experience caused me to give up on editing wikipedia or even loging in for approximately that long. I am not at all surprised to hear that this person is guilty of many violations; last I checked he was following some other user around, giving him ownership of articles and backing up whatever crazy edits he did as if they were divine acts of policy implementation. I highly suspect that user is in fact a sock puppet, but it could be some kind of relationship. This experience opened my eyes about an aspect of Wikipedia that I didn't see evolving in the background (I haven't had an account all that long, but I was there when Wikipedia was born and doing edits a decade ago when what was important was that information was correct and sourceable); it seems like over the years Wikipedia has garnered a community of power-mad fools who would rather engage in some kind of online social experiment than create the greatest encyclopedia that ever was or will be. Quequotion (talk) 19:06, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
- ...Are you two both referring to me...? Because I have no idea what the IP is talking about. I’ve never been accused of having a COI, nor have I closed any wiki-stalking investigations. I also have no idea which “friend” is being referred to either. The animosity over something minor that happened 4 years ago is crazy - I protected a page when you kept edit warring instead of discussing, and was unpersuaded my your arguments about adding unencyclopedic content to a single article. That’s not corruption. It’s a disagreement at worst. Sergecross73 msg me 22:21, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
- Corruption is having a
sock puppetvery special friend whose edits you always love, no matter how much damage they do, and who always has your back, no matter how wrong you are. Good to see you are stillthe same personworking together. Quequotion (talk) 17:47, 3 July 2019 (UTC)- Alright, time to put up or shut up. Sock puppets are reported here. Feel free to report me. But if you don’t, you need to stop with the accusations, as per WP:AGF and WP:ASPERSIONS, it’s not acceptable to keep making baseless claims and accusation. For the record, we’re talking right now because Smuckola reported you to me, not because we’re the same person. He wanted you blocked, though I haven’t yet, as your edits are more misguided and disruptive than they are blockable...so far. If you did any sort of research, you’d see it’s probably been months since Smuckola and I have interacted before you started editing again, we’ve disagreed on things in the past, and there’s no policy against editors reporting users directly to admin. Sergecross73 msg me 22:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Corruption is having a
- ...Are you two both referring to me...? Because I have no idea what the IP is talking about. I’ve never been accused of having a COI, nor have I closed any wiki-stalking investigations. I also have no idea which “friend” is being referred to either. The animosity over something minor that happened 4 years ago is crazy - I protected a page when you kept edit warring instead of discussing, and was unpersuaded my your arguments about adding unencyclopedic content to a single article. That’s not corruption. It’s a disagreement at worst. Sergecross73 msg me 22:21, 2 July 2019 (UTC)