User talk:Press olive, win oil

Change to Olive Oil page

I think your reversal of my change (here) was probably based on a misunderstanding. I changed [[bitter]] to [[bitter(taste)|bitter]] so that the link would go to the Bitterness part of the Taste article, instead of to a disambiguation page for the word bitter, which can refer to a British type of beer or (apparently) to a German car firm as well as to the taste. In most browsers, what is displayed in the Olive Oil article would not be affected by my change. See Help:Piped link for a clearer explanation.

I propose to make the change again. But do let me know if I have misunderstood your reasons. Grafen (talk) 08:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry! Press olive, win oil (talk) 14:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Editing other peoples comments

Hi, I saw this [1] edit of yours just now. Obviously, this was a well intentioned edit to make it more readable. However, you should be aware that it is against etiquette (wikiquette) and talk page guidelines to edit other peoples comments in any way. I am sure it is not the case with your edit, but doing this can be construed as misrepresentation. Thak you. SpinningSpark 15:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC) I wonder why that would be against any guidelines if they're small, minor edits. Oh well, thanks for the advice. Press olive, win oil (talk) 15:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Minor edits

I wonder why that would be against any guidelines if they're small, minor edits. Oh well, thanks for the advice. Press olive, win oil (talk) 15:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

• It is because the talk page is a record of what the person actually said. You cannot change that (even spelling mistakes and typos - I noticed a few of those from you also) because that is what the person actually wrote. If it is important enough, by all means point out the mistake to the person so they can change it themselves, but never edit a past comment yourself. By convention, editors do not even change text in their own comments. If this needs to be done, the convention is to strike through your old comment and then add the correction. Hope this helps you. SpinningSpark 15:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Ah - and I see you have just provided an example on my talk page where srikethrough rather than deletion would have been appropriate!! SpinningSpark 15:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Sorry! Press olive, win oil (talk) 14:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC) But, how do you do strikethrough? Command-U doesn't work. Press olive, win oil (talk) 14:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

You do it by putting the text you want to strike between strikethrough tags

<s>struck text</s>.

An easy way of doing this while you are in edit mode is to highlight the text you want strike, then click the strikethrough icon on the toolbar above the edit box (a little right of centre on the toolbar).

By the way, I am sorry you have had nothing but people telling you off since you started editing on Wikipedia. Normally, the welcoming committee are the first to leave a message to new users, but we probably made them think you were no longer new by making your talk page so busy. So allow me to say, Welcome to Wikipedia. They then usually go on to list a whole bunch of stuff you should read but you can't read everything at once so let me just point you at Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia. SpinningSpark 22:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Spinningspark. This / is a strikethrough mark, right? The key you can write a question mark with when you hold shift. Press olive, win oil (talk) 21:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC) I did it. Just hit the str button. Thanks lots Spinningspark. Only administrators can give barnstars, right? (Educated guess.) Well, if I could, i'd give one to you. Press olive, win oil (talk) 21:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Anyone can give barnstars to anyone for anything, there are no rules. Sometimes people design them specially for a one-off situation. But please don't give me a Barnstar for telling you how to do strikethrough, that was too easy. Anyway, they are at WP:STAR if you need them.

By the way, a good way of getting help on your talkpage is to leave the {{helpme}} template there. There are editors who go around answering these help requests. You can also go to the helpdesk at WP:HD to get more eyes on the problem. I am also happy for you to ask me questions directly on my talk page, but you will not always get a quick reply as I am often away from home on business. SpinningSpark 23:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC) On the barnstar article (WP:STAR), someone did strikethrough rather than deletion. It said "speling grammer, and punctunctuacion are, importent!" which is gramatically incorect, of course but it was struck through rather than deleted. Spinningspark (or anyone else) , why would a key page have strikethrough on the article? Are guidelines treated like talk pages? I wouldn't think so. Press olive, win oil (talk) 14:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

It is just a joke, highlighting the sort of thing copyeditors go around creating. Strikethrough is never normally used on an article or project page. Strikethrough is for talk pages were you want to avoid the accusation that you have changed the meaning of something someone else has written. For instance, if you write "I think green M&Ms are best", then someone writes underneath it "I agree". You cannot then change your mind and change green to red. This makes it look like the second person likes red, when in fact, he likes green. The solution is to strike out your comment so everyone can still see what second person is agreeing/commenting/disagreeing with then put your new opinion at the bottom. If you change your mind before anyone else has commented, then ok maybe just straightforward delete, but once there are intervening comments you really need to strikethrough. SpinningSpark 15:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Atlantic City, New Jersey edit

I don't think what you wrote about the climate is necessarily true, I live in Northern New Jersey and I've seen times where Atlantic City and Southern New Jersey has gotten just as much snow and cold climate weather as the Nothern part of the state. Simon Bar Sinister (talk) 19:20, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Yes, but so does Nashville, which has a humid subtropical climate. By the way, I'm using the Koppen climate classification to define this. Press olive, win oil (talk) 23:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Also, I didn't write the comment about Atlantic City getting less snowfall than somme inland areas, but it is true. Press olive, win oil (talk) 23:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Removal of content to Köppen climate classification

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The image used ATM may be slightly wrong but it stays since it's a free image where as the image you posted isn't. I'll do some searching to see if I can find images that are free to replace the image in the article. Bidgee (talk) 00:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Good, I got a new link from wikimedia on here. If only someone could make it an image! Oh, and Bidgee, what ATM are you talking about (I never even heard of a single thing that ATM stands for). Press olive, win oil (talk) 17:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Did I just break the 3-revert rule?

I hope I didn't break the 3-revert rule. I only reverted someone else's edit once. I reverted my own edits, though. Press olive, win oil (talk) 23:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Did I just break the 3-revert rule?

I hope I didn't break the 3-revert rule. I only reverted someone else's edit once. I reverted my own edits, though. Press olive, win oil (talk) 23:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikibreak

I won't be able to acess Wikipedia starting June 28 2008 and ending either 2 or 4 weeks after that date (don't know which). Press olive, win oil (talk) 21:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC) My wikibreak is over. Press olive, win oil (talk) 17:09, 12 July 2008 (UTC) I cannot get on Wikipedia tomorrow and for the later half of the day (not much of a break). Press olive, win oil (talk) 14:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC) I am going to the beach for a few days and thus will take a small wikibreak. Press olive, win oil (talk) 14:04, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Teaneck climate

What was [[2]] about? Teaneck definitely gets moderating effects from the ocean. Just compare it to Chicago. Also, according to the Koppen climate classification, Teaneck has a humid subtropical climate because the average temperature during the coldest month (January) is greater than 26.6F/-3C. Press olive, win oil (talk) 14:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Largely copied from almost neighbor New York City. Any changes, such as the ones you have already made, would be helpful. Alansohn (talk) 14:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

You liked my edit? Are there any other climate pages in New Jersey that need help? Press olive, win oil (talk) 14:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Teaneck is one of the few smaller municipalities with climate sections. I think the cities -- Newark, New Jersey, Jersey City, New Jersey, Camden, New Jersey, etc. -- should all have the sections, but my challenge has been finding appropriate sources. Your knowledge will help in expanding these articles. Alansohn (talk) 14:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

So I can use humid subtropical climate as a default for New Jersey places. Humid continental climates would be the relatively rare exception. Alansohn (talk) 15:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips. I had worded re ocean effects in Teaneck based on comparing to NYC stats (and a bit on my own personal experience). I will be more cautious about sticking to the data. Thanks again for the tips. Alansohn (talk) 16:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I've been going through New Jersey articles and doing cleanup re government, but I would like to add climate info in the near future. Do you have any opinion on http://www.idcide.com vs. http://www.weatherbase.com (which was used for Teaneck) as a source for weather statistics. Is there any other source that has more places and better coverage of New Jersey? Does the National Weather Service have any data like this? Alansohn (talk) 16:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I saw your recent edits at Trenton and I was planning to use them as part of going through adding climate details for other New Jersey communities. Is there any reliable source for climate details such as record/average highs and lows, precipitation, etc.? Alansohn (talk) 14:53, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

New Jersey climate

Well, idcide is your best bet for average highs/lows and precipitation, but even that's not completely reliable. Records highs/lows? That's harder. I haven't found a website that's extremely reliable yet, but I'm looking for one. Are you looking for such a website? Also, Teaneck climate will be merged here. Press olive, win oil (talk) 15:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

The goal would be to find a central source that lists all of the details (details by month for high, low, precipitation; record highs and lows) for every municipality, and has the data in a downloadable format. I don't think that exists, but i will take whatever I can get as close to this as possible. Alansohn (talk) 15:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC) I didn't mean that reliable. I meant something accurate to 0.5F or something. Not perfect, but better than idcide or weatherbase. Still, you should take anything as close to this as possible, like you'd already do. Press olive, win oil (talk) 15:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I still have climate on my New Jersey list of things to do. I will check out idcide as a data source. Thanks again for your input. Let me know if you can point me to any good models for formatting the climate data. Alansohn (talk) 21:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

NYC climate

I dunno... to me, it's not a question of splitting straws with numbers and exactly where the isotherms are. I just think in a big, comprehensive article like that one that only gives a few worldwide examples of each climate type, that those few examples should be very "textbook," clear-cut, stock, classic representatives of those climate types. Brisbane and Houston and Atlanta are such examples... New York City is clearly not. Look at it this way: would you want a foreigner who had never been to the U.S. and knew nothing about the climate of New York City to think, based on that article, that it had a very similar climate to Brisbane? Surely not... do you see my logic? --NetherlandishYankee (talk) 21:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't really think Milan should be there either, as it's not at all a "textbook" Cfa climate, although it's not like NYC, either. It's closer to the Cfb climates of France and Germany than anything else... neither summers nor winters are as extreme as NYC's. A better example would be Venice (which was up there at some point in the past)... it is still mild compared to the southeast US and Queensland, but is more like them than Milan is. Part of the value of having some city in Europe is to show the geographical extent of the climate type. --NetherlandishYankee (talk) 04:02, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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As per the New York City discussion above, while Pittsburgh possibly could meet the requirements for Humid Suptropical, I ask you to PLEASE revert that change. If someone reads just that, they'll think that Pittsburgh has a climate like Orlando, which is ridiculous. Also, the climate scale you are using is heavily criticized. DavidWS (talk) 02:00, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much for rewriting the edit to Pittsburgh, I appreciate it! Sorry about the factual errors warning, it just seemed so odd. Cheers, DavidWS (talk) 12:54, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Teaneck and demographics

Did you write "With almost no land left to develop for housing, Teaneck's population is likely to remain stable for the foreseeable future. A reluctance to permit high-rise development as a means to increase population density also places a limit on growth. Changes in family size are one of the few influences that may affect population over time?" This holds true for Teaneck, but it also holds true for Hackensack, which has an even slower population growth (0.9% since 2000). Also, it is a little misleading because it makes Teaneck sound like a 200,000 people city, not a 50,000 people suburb. Both Teaneck and Hackensack are quite built up, but the dominant cover in both Hackensack and Teaneck is vegetation (look at Google Earth, Wiki Mapia etc.). Here's a possible definition of small city: A city with vegetation, not buildings, being its dominant cover." Both Hackensack and Teaneck are correctly described like that and will probably both fit that rule forever. They both have under 50,000 people, which is another definition of small city. Hackensack and Teaneck will probably fit that definition forever. For a small city such as Teaneck or Hackensack that will probably have a <50,000 population and be dominately covered by vegetation forever, it is misleading to say "Almost no land left to develop for housing," as it potrays an image of a place like New York City. Press olive, win oil (talk) 20:11, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

My intention was to describe the prospects for demographic growth in Teaneck, not to characterize it as urban. There are two main potential sources of population growth in a place, either from natural growth or from new residents. If every one of the imaginary 20,000 households in Teaneck added a child, the population would grow from 40,000 to 60,000. If there were 10,000 new households with two persons each moving in to homes built on currently vacant land, that would also account for a jump from 40,000 to 60,000. I can't find the sources yet, but even New York City has more developable land than Teaneck or Hackensack. Areas in Brooklyn, the Bronx and especially Staten Island that have been empty for decades have been developed for homes. While I will acknowledge that much of Teaneck and Hackensack are green when viewed from above, the land in each that could be developed for new housing is a minuscule percentage of the available land. I will consider rewording the description to avoid any misinterpretation. Alansohn (talk) 21:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Pittsburgh climate

Hi, please visit Talk:Pittsburgh#Climate and add to the discussion I started here a week or so ago. This climate information seems to get reverted back and forwards every few days and the facts need to be laid out and consensus established on this. Thanks. Mfield (talk) 02:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Think you used the term too loosely

Re: my statement about food on the NJ talk page: Had you labeled it "irrelevent" or "unnecesary," something along those lines, I would not find any fault with that and let it go. But labeling it "vandalism" borders on the asinine. It wasn't vandalism. I'll admit it was a "neither-here-nor-there" thing, but as I understand it vandalism is done with the intent to purposely add ridiculous things, malicious things, or otherwise needless things FOR ITS OWN SAKE, which was not what I was doing when I made the comment about food and shore points. It's a dangerous thing to throw "vandalism" around like it's candy. Jersey John (talk) 07:55, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Koppen group B calculations

wow... not a single edit to this talk page for nearly a year and a half.

I am trying to get editors to input on the validity of my proposed calculation at the Koppen talk page, but no one has responded. I was thinking that if I elicited more responses, then those watching the page would be more interested in replying. If you could voice your opinion over there, that would be fine. ---华钢琴49 (TALK) 04:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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Cassiopeia I think you missed that the article is essentially a POV fork of the article that User:Press olive, win oil redirected to Inf-in MD (talk) 00:49, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

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