User talk:Pineapplemike

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Proposed deletion of Friars Aylesbury

The article Friars Aylesbury has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Speedy deletion nomination of David Stopps

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A tag has been placed on David Stopps requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://www.musictank.co.uk/resources/speaker-biographies/david-stopps-managing-director-of-fml-international-artist-management/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Pineapplemike

A tag has been placed on User:Pineapplemike requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

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Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... The Friars Aylesbury page has been live for 5 years! I am being queried for a new entry/page about David Stopps which I was doing on his behalf, however this has flagged issues (reasonably and I was unaware of it being posted elsewhere) Please do not delete me as I'd like to edit may main Friars Aylesbury page --Pineapplemike (talk) 08:22, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your user page is not a work space. I see that you have already created your user sandbox at User:Pineapplemike/sandbox, where you can work on changes undisturbed. --Drm310 (talk) 16:25, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion discussion about David Stopps

Hello, Pineapplemike

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Elmidae and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, David Stopps, should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Stopps.

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Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:15, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Elmidae:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Stopps

Hi Elmidae. I am a fair novice to Wikipedia. Regards your proposed deletion of my article on David Stopps.

I have enhanced this article to provide more independent reference points. Mr Stopps is well known and respected locally, nationally and internationally in a career spanning fifty years. It is unfair to suggest he is tagging along on the Bowie name when that is a tiny fraction of his career. I hope that this article stays, as whilst not intended as a competition, there are articles on other music managers whose achievements are similar or arguably less.

Thank you, Mike Pineapplemike (talk) 12:40, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully I have resolved the issue I had, thanks Pineapplemike (talk) 21:16, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of David Stopps

A tag has been placed on David Stopps requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Largoplazo (talk) 11:03, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

November 2019

Hello Pineapplemike. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Pineapplemike. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Pineapplemike|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Yunshui ^雲 _水 22:54, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of David Stopps

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The page David Stopps has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Stopps. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, or you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:54, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To be absolutely clear: I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits. I asked one of the editors a couple of weeks ago what I could do to ensure this article was not deleted and received no response. It is a well sourced and verifiable article. Whilst I am a relative novice to Wikipedia, all I wanted to know was how to prevent this article from being deleted. I believe I addressed the main concerns which was more verifiable and independent sources. I want to get this right but need guidance. Thanks Pineapplemike (talk) 09:02, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It may be have verifiable (well-sourced... not so much) but it was also written in a highly promotional, non-neutral, discursive tone, which makes it look very much as though you have some affiliation with David Stopps/The Friars Aylesbury - an impression which is compounded by the fact that you've never edited anything else and show no interest in doing so. You cannot write stuff like "he ... start[ed] the now legendary music club Friars Aylesbury", "[he] presented pretty much everyone who was anyone", "The Friars Aylesbury website ... is regarded by music journalists as a global music resource [that] shows the complete history, "Stopps was one of the first people to spot the potential of new bands such as Genesis and Mott The Hoople" and so on in an encyclopedia; it would be fine on a personal website or marketing platform but is totally unsuitable here. My advice would be to spend some time editing - not creating - articles, to get a good handle on how Wikipedia works and what sort of content is accepted; then you may be in a position to put together a usable article on Mr Stopps. Yunshui ^雲 _水 09:22, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate the feedback. If I were to completely re-edit and produce an article like, say, Peter Jenner who has a similar career path, this would be OK? Happy to completely rewrite without it appearing as a self promotion piece which appears to be the main issue and wasn't the intention. I will look around other biographies etc to get a good pointer to what is acceptable. Pineapplemike (talk) 15:00, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of David Stopps

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A tag has been placed on David Stopps requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Stopps. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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Blocked

Since you have continued to write about your employer on Wikipedia without disclosing your financial relationship, I have blocked your account for violating Wikipedia's Terms of Use. You have been previously warned that a disclosure was required, but do not appear to to have made one. Yunshui ^雲 _水 14:03, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating Wikipedia's terms of use by engaging in undisclosed paid editing and using Wikipedia for advertising or promotion.

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Request reason:

the page was edited to modify issues highlighted by editors to take out any impression of promotion and is valid! To make it clear, I work for an international bank. I am NOT working for my employer as you insist and this is *NOT* undisclosed paid editing. I'll sign a disclaimer/disclosure that I am being paid if that helps get this page up but that's morally wrong. You have articles about the David Bowie statue and appear determined to not allow this page, which in that context is surely valid Pineapplemike (talk) 15:53, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I don't want you to declare as a paid editor if you aren't one- but you stated above in 2017 that " I am being queried for a new entry/page about David Stopps which I was doing on his behalf(my emphasis"). If you are doing it on his behalf but he is not paying you to do so(the pay does not have to be cash money), please explain. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 16:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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OK, perhaps clumsily worded on my part in trying to declare honesty as I am doing it because I have suggested in the past it should be done, as have others. I would have used the terms you highlight to try to explain there's no gain from my side. I will make it clear again, I am not being paid or renumerated in any way shape or form. It sounds to me as if this article will not be allowed whoever posts it. I could have sent this article to David himself to submit but that wouldn't be helpful and obvious self interests etc Pineapplemike (talk) 16:49, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]