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Your submission at Articles for creation: Artin-Tits groups (July 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Also largely incomprehensible.

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Theroadislong (talk) 15:39, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Patrick Dehornoy! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 15:39, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Artin–Tits group

The article you submitted to Articles for creation has been created.

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Patrick Dehornoy (talk) 15:25, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The new article "Artin-Tits group" is proposed as a merging of the older "Artin group" and "Artin-Tits group". Critics have been carefully taken into account. Is it OK now?

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Patrick Dehornoy. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Dehornoy order and Artin group, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the COI guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
disclose your COI when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. — MarkH21 (talk) 17:57, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

These are not absolutes: A professor should not link to his own university's web site when the only purpose of the link is to promote that university, and when linking to that site should use some caution to assure that he's not subconsciously doing that, but if it serves the purpose of improving the article, then it is justifiable. And a similar thing applies to citing one's own publications. Michael Hardy (talk) 00:12, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I entirely agree with your remarks, especially the fact that "editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted". But I dont have the feeling that I did so. The article "Dehornoy order" is clearly connected to my own work, but, precisely, the facts that I added to the article mention results obtained by other contributors to the subject, making the paper more balanced. And the article "Artin group" is not essentially connected to my work: here again, I added important results by other contributors (with full references). By the way, I am an old mathematician and I sincerely desire to popularize significant results in maths rather than to promote myself... Please, check the articles, and protest if you see anything that is not conformal to Wikipedia policy. Patrick Dehornoy ( Patrick Dehornoy) 09:36, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Perhaps some clarification – my message above was not to accuse you of doing all that was mentioned. It was to inform you of the policies in case you may be unaware, i.e. a friendly notification so there are no accidental inappropriate actions or misunderstandings in the future :) I certainly appreciate your contributions so far and I wholeheartedly share the same goal of making interesting parts of mathematics accessible!
Regarding the "Discovery" section of Dehornoy order that you mentioned on my talk page, my challenge was for the lengthy description of the history which is still unreferenced. The source you added only attributes the vague description: the process by which the order was discovered is unusual, but not the information that follows. Plus, the tone is slightly editorial, in the sense that there are subjective adjectives prescribed such as "surprising". The tone issue is very minor, but the historical details need to have citations. — MarkH21 (talk) 03:14, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]