User talk:Omnipaedista/Archive 5

References and parenthesis

You moved a reference outside of a parenthetical statement over at Diana Schutz.

I understand the instinct, but per MOS:REFPUNCT, parentheticals are an exception to the usual reference-after-punctuation rules. If the reference is just for material inside the parentheses (as in this case it was), the reference also goes inside.

I've undone your edit.

Be well, be safe, and be comfortable! --Nat Gertler (talk) 05:03, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! --Omnipaedista (talk) 07:19, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Modal logic

Hi! In modal logic#History, you edited a sentence that now reads:

C. I. Lewis founded modern modal logic in a series of scholarly articles beginning in 1912 with " ".

Maybe you just forgot to complete that sentence and the reference? - Jochen Burghardt (talk) 18:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I meant to add it immediately but something came up. Fixed it now! Thank you. --Omnipaedista (talk) 18:43, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

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Category name changes

Hello, Omnipaedista,

If you believe a category has the wrong name, please propose a name change at CFD or here for a speedy name change. Do not empty categories out of process. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:14, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm really sorry about that. I will, from now on, follow the process. --Omnipaedista (talk) 16:43, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

David Ray Griffin

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:David Ray Griffin § Description and interests. Thank you. Roy McCoy (talk) 03:38, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

I notice you deleted the section following but left this one. I hope this suggests that you'll consider visiting and perhaps contributing to the Griffin discussion and article. I noticed you seemed to be familiar with Prof. Griffin, adding his influences – and also his main interests, which is largely what the present discussion is about. Thank you. –Roy McCoy (talk) 21:50, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

I am afraid I do not have time for this. --Omnipaedista (talk) 08:24, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

RE: en.everybodywiki.com

Hello, I believe you endorsed my article Metabasis Paradox, now accepted. During the process, everybodywiki.com took both the Metabasis article and the same piece by another title (you may remember when I changed the title). The admin who controls everybodywiki.com, a Wikipedian username WikiMaster (?) got mad when I blanked both pages repeatedly while awaiting acceptance at Wikipedia. So he or she blocked me, and maye that's OK. But though WikiMaster has taken down Metabasis Paradox from everybodywiki, they seem reluctunt to take down Change of Fortune Paradox. Isn't everybodywiki.com not entitled to that article, since it is the same article, and now accepted at Wikipedia? I wonder if you know anyone who can help in this matter. If not, thanks for reading this and your other help.Cdg1072 (talk) 05:00, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. --Omnipaedista (talk) 08:24, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

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MOS:SIR

You've misinterpreted this guideline - "Sir"/"Dame" is part of the name. MOS:SIR: "The infobox heading includes pre-nominals, name and post-nominals as separate elements. The title is placed in bold in the first use of the name". I agree its a bit ambiguous but it would be better to raise this at the MOS talk page and get consensus for a mass change, rather than doing it piecemeal article by article and introducing inconsistencies within series. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 15:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Please see this. --Omnipaedista (talk) 15:46, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Please consider reverting yourself. --Omnipaedista (talk) 15:47, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography#MOS:SIR: I have already mentioned you there and your arguments have been dismissed by others as a misinterpretation of the wikiwide MOS and violation of WP:OWN. --Omnipaedista (talk) 20:16, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Al-Aajili

Hello,I would like to know why you canceled my changes ? The name العجيلي in arabic traducting by Al-aajili and not ujayla — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wajdi Ljl (talk • contribs) 09:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Each person chooses to render their name as they wish. For example Shahla Ujayli chose to render her name this way as you can see in the link quoted in the article about her: https://www.arabicfiction.org/en/node/595. Please respect other people's wishes and please do not move articles or change transcriptions without first discussing such changes in the respective talk pages of the articles. --Omnipaedista (talk) 09:57, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Section order

I confess to be interested in authority control, and could do well without portal links. I the MoS binding, or could I reflect it in articles to which I contributed? In articles I write, I don't even have (distracting) portal links. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

I think that MOS:SECTIONORDER is a mandatory style guide. --Omnipaedista (talk) 16:23, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

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Same to you --Omnipaedista (talk) 18:32, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Mundane science fiction edits

Given your latest edit comment "I am quoting the style guide itself, not a talk page" you apparently misunderstood my edit comment/revert reason. I wasn't suggesting you quoted the talk page - I believe the style guide you quoted doesn't mean what you think it means. The talk link wasn't my "source" - it is my way of inviting you to join the discussion, which, again, is at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section#BOLDSYN_(again...).

Best regards, CapnZapp (talk) 15:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for inviting me then! I'll definitely join the discussion there. --Omnipaedista (talk) 15:22, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Citations needed

I have been going around and adding "citation needed" for various foreign-language titles I find. It's not that I don't trust the translations or that I'm a fascist, but I have honestly seen edit-wars over the correct transliteration of something, and if there's one thing that can resolve an edit-war over such content, it's a reliable source that indicates what the actual term should be. I haven't been dropping talk-page messages for these, I am not sure they are strictly necessary for a single "cn" but forgive me if they are. Elizium23 (talk) 20:29, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

OK, you are basically right actually. --Omnipaedista (talk) 20:39, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Request for input on SpaceX Starship

Greetings Omnipaedista, I have started a discussion on the SpaceX Starship talk page about reoganizing the prototype section. I would really appreciate your input. Please take a look and leave a note. Many thanks. JaredHWood💬 01:35, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

I am afraid I do not have time for this. --Omnipaedista (talk) 16:22, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Redirect of Orthodox Church

Are you sure your redirect is not controversial? Both discussions you refer to do not seem to tackle this question directly. I personally am in favour of your redirect. Veverve (talk) 18:10, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Maybe an RfC should have been created. On the other hand, the latest consensus is not in favor of this 2010 edit: see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 30#Orthodox Church. --Omnipaedista (talk) 19:09, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

RM for Autocephaly

I have started a RM for Autocephaly, please come and give your feedback here. Veverve (talk) 19:14, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Sure, I'll chip in. --Omnipaedista (talk) 19:20, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Reference for death of Curtis Yarvin's wife

The ref you added is the same one that User:Jlevi had removed previously with a concern about its reliability. Is there a better source available? DMacks (talk) 07:44, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Not really. I just reverted myself. --Omnipaedista (talk) 07:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I don't know anything about this specific detail either, it just appeared on my watchlist. DMacks (talk) 07:54, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

The source I added is Yarvin's blog. Anyway, editors should discuss this on the talk page rather than edit war in the article. --Omnipaedista (talk) 07:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Late Wittgenstein

I see from guidelines that I probably should have started a talk with you first before undoing (I'm a relatively infrequent editor and have never had such a dispute before), but better late than never.

If you still think that my edit is incorrect and that my analysis (that the cited page does not actually define the term "late Ludwig Wittgenstein"), please let's discuss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Presnick (talk • contribs) 21:31, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Re this: Wikipedia should define the terms 'early Wittgenstein' and 'late Wittgenstein.' There is a dilemma between having such definitions included in The New Wittgenstein and having them included in Ludwig Wittgenstein. That is all. I might as well move the definitions from the former article to the latter article. --Omnipaedista (talk) 21:38, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I just did that. --Omnipaedista (talk) 10:47, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Gerda! --Omnipaedista (talk) 10:47, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

'Italics' template

Just for curiosity: why do you place {{italic title}} on top of an article where it will never need editing? I understand having date format there, because it will be helpful to avoid mistakes introduced by later editors. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

The documentation of 'italics' templates instructs that they be placed on top of the article – e.g., Template:Italic dab/doc explicitly says, "place this template in the article, normally at the top." Italics templates used to be the very first element of an article. Recently 'short description' became the very first element as per WP:SDPLACE (I had to make this edit so that the documentation reflects the new MoS). --Omnipaedista (talk) 08:15, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the documentation says so, but it's an extra line for some possibly new editor who enters editing the article and will have No Idea why that is there and what it does. We could just not follow the documentation if it doesn't make sense, no? Or we could change the documentation. It makes no sense once established to have it on top. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:20, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, we could change it but this issue should be raised first in Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout. Actually, this issue has already been discussed there (Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout/Archive 14#DISPLAYTITLE) but discussion did not lead to any changes. --Omnipaedista (talk) 08:28, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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Lead pronunciation: comma or semicolon?

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section#Usage in first sentence says Relevant foreign-language names, such as in an article on a person who does not themselves write their name in English, are encouraged. Separate languages should be divided by semicolons, and romanizations of non-Latin scripts by commas.

I see your point that it may be interpreted to consider IPA transcriptions in different languages no different from names in different languages, but take this into account: unlike IPA transcriptions, foreign names

1. are not enclosed in square brackets or slashes;
2. may include commas themselves (as in film titles etc.)
3. may be spelled in a different alphabet and need a romanization, which as specified goes after a comma too.

This is usually not the case for pronunciations, and I have actually most of the time seen them separated by commas, especially when they are followed by a different name after a semicolon (e.g. hypothetically “Paris (/ˈpærɪs/, French: [paʁi]; Italian: Parigi)”). I believe this works better to suggest that the first list refers to the same spelling. I tried to find something more specific but neither MOS:LEADPRON nor MOS:PRON seem to treat this. 〜イヴァンスクルージ九十八［IvanScrooge98］（会話） 19:16, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

(I have also several times redacted leads in this fashion, as overtime I assumed that is how it is supposed to be. 〜イヴァンスクルージ九十八［IvanScrooge98］（会話） 19:18, 2 June 2021 (UTC))

Zizek Bibliography: deletion of Russia Today publications

Hello Omnipaedista,

I write to you, because you have been editing the Slavoj Žižek Page. I'm editing the Zizek bibliography. Here I also mention the op-ed publications on Russia Today. There is a WP editor who holds the opinion, that these edits violate Wikipedia:RSP. I can't see how this is applicable. You can read my argument here. The editor doesn't respond.

If you have an interest in the subject, I would be happy, if you could contribute your opinion. If you don't have an interest, maybe you know someone else who might have?

With kind regards.

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György Mihály Vajda

Hello! I think the name is confused for this person: György Mihály Vajda. He is called András Mihály Vajda (see also: hu:Vajda Mihály, but there really was a György Mihály Vajda, who was a literary historian and lived between 1914-2001 (György Mihály Vajda (Q108811146)). You renamed it in 2012 Is there any source that his third name was György? Thanks bye: 08:10, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

I am sorry; I mixed them up. I just fixed my mistake. --Omnipaedista (talk) 15:33, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

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List of wealthiest organisations

Hi Omnipaedista

My addition to the sub-list 'Religious organizations' in the list of wealthiest organizations has been removed without a reason by you. The citation is a verified one from Forbes. I hope you stop showing religious grudges and remember that this is a volunteer-run encyclopedia. If there was a genuine reason to remove it, I am all ears. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_organizations

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The reason was in the edit summary: WP:FORBESCON. --Omnipaedista (talk) 17:06, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

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Classical Hollywood cinema

Hey fella correct me if I am wrong, but this lists - [1], and [2] should be taken off of from the Classical Hollywood cinema article right? due to WP:LINKFARM. Greetings and I await for a response, I am asking this cause I tried to take both of them off a long time ago, but there is an user in there who wants to re-add it and re-add it again and again. TheBellaTwins1445 (talk) 07:17, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

I would like them removed from there as per WP:LINKFARM (see also Template:Excessive examples). But there seems to be an ongoing discussion on the talk page right now (Talk:Classical Hollywood cinema#Criteria for inclusion of Major Figures from Classic Hollywood Cinema; I might chip in soon. --Omnipaedista (talk) 23:20, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Nairi and Proto-Armenian

Nowhere on the Diaehi page are the sources that are placed on Nairi's page. They were deleted a long time ago because these sources are from 2 Armenian historians and nowhere was it written that was an proto Armenian state. A non-Armenian source is also required for the reliability of the source to confirm this information. CeRcVa13 (talk) 11:10, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

What is etymology?

Hello. I am contacting you because of a discussion about etymology on another website, Final Fantasy Fandom. That wiki gives a definition of etymology, followed by a link to Wikipedia etymology page (their page here), and then features 2700 etymologies (list here), almost all of them being similar to these three:

• Etymology of absolute zero: Absolute zero is the coldest possible temperature. More formally, it is the temperature at which entropy reaches its minimum value.
• Etymology of fire: Fire is the rapid oxidation of a material in the exothermic chemical process of combustion, releasing heat, light, and various reaction products.
• Etymology of Shiva: Shiva (also spelled Śiva) is a Hindu god. The Hindu Shiva once saved the world by consuming poison, giving him blue skin around the area of the neck and throat. [etc. etc.]

Are these three examples etymologies, or not? Since you are an active member of Wikipedia Linguistics Project and Wikipedia Etymology Task Force, your opinion could solve the discussion (if you prefer to avoid any involvement, just write it, I will understand). Thank you in advance for your time and attention. --Abacos (talk) 11:58, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

These are not etymologies, these are mere dictionary definitions. --Omnipaedista (talk) 16:01, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind answer. For your information, I agree with you, while the Final Fantasy Fandom states that etymology means "detailing the origins of terminology used in the series in regards to real world culture and history". --Abacos (talk) 13:24, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Post town in capitals

Hi @Omnipaedista:.
I have noticed that you have been changing infoboxes so that the post town is written in all capitals, rather than in sentence case. Per the outcome of this discussion, the preference is now not to use all capitals.
Best wishes Mertbiol (talk) 11:37, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up! --Omnipaedista (talk) 18:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Scott Williams (comics)

Hi. I have reverted your edit to the article. As a veteran editor, I assume you know by now that sources must be cited in the article, per WP:V, WP:CS, et al. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 16:14, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes, but the relevant VIAF information is to be found at the bottom of the article under Authority Control. In any case, I just added a direct link to preserve WP:INTEGRITY. --Omnipaedista (talk) 16:26, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Confusing edit

Why did you do this: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Action_Comics_1&type=revision&diff=1111794864&oldid=1111130910? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:23, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Please see H:BR. --Omnipaedista (talk) 00:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Nice. Thanks. Seems like a serious issue for a narrow problem. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:51, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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The page was blanked by another editor just a few minutes before you tagged it. --Omnipaedista (talk) 18:04, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

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Im not saying you are wrong with your edit here, I just want input from the community first as I remember why the template was placed. It would sail through a future WP:TfD if it is indeed useless. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Fair enough! --Omnipaedista (talk) 12:30, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

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Reverting changes to infoboxes

You reverted changes to infoboxes on both Heraclitus and Parmenides citing "unexplained removal of citations" - however, nothing removed was cited, and much of the material you added back in was unsupported by the body of the article. I've reverted both of these changes per MOS:INFOBOX. - car chasm (talk) 23:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

To be clear, it looks like you might be reverting changes that violate MOS:CAPS instead of correcting them. If the content is different please do not revert back to an old version of the page, please correct the new version. While style is important, accurate content that reflects the article is more important. - car chasm (talk) 19:30, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Agreed. --Omnipaedista (talk) 19:34, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

You've now updated the Heraclitus article with the edit summary "according to Template:Infobox philosopher/doc, the 'main interests' field is about fields of sudy not abstract concepts"

Which there are really two problems with: 1) there's no such claim made on the linked doc page about what "main interests" constitute and 2) Heraclitus did not study ontology, a field that was first studied by its inventor, Parmenides.

Can you please discuss your changes on the talk page, and stop making false statements in your edit summaries? - car chasm (talk) 06:55, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

I removed ontology for the time being. --Omnipaedista (talk) 07:04, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Nine years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC)