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Benfica TV

Can you please see the above article, I tag it for tone improvement, since it's a basic chronology of events, but the editor is removing it because he doesn't like the tag. I've explained the changes needed, but I don't have the patience to argue with him.--Threeohsix (talk) 10:41, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

See this edit (before your comment). SLBedit (talk) 12:02, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I've rewrote it and need your feedback as user. The prose and tone isn't better than the list-like article before? --Threeohsix (talk) 16:26, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

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A2z Support Deletion

Hi Dear Nyttend, Why you deleted my newly edited page ? I have put it's contents after studying thoroughly My First Article Wikipedia guidelines. and no advertisement sort of thing was in it. it was just information topic. Because i am regular reader of this Evangelist Blog so i put it's wiki. Kindly Restore the page otherwise my efforts will be lost and i feel disgraced although i followed guidelines. Thanks I will be please on this act of kindness Regards Kat mano (talk) 22:59, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Personal Request

Hi Nyttend , i want to talk to you personally about guidance of using wikipedia. Can i have your email address ? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.119.128.33 (talk) 10:18, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

No, I do not give out my email address. Nyttend (talk) 12:50, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

A2z Page Deletion

Hi Dear Nyttend , i hope you are fine. I am here to talk something after i was make useless by the other wikians administrators. My point is that i have created A2z Support Page on the start not as it for promotional purposes i swear but only for the topic that what is meant for and what is it's function. But my page was deleted although i requested everyone as i am new to wikipedia you all should help me creating pages but you are just throwing me. I then did't lose my effort , i regret i make 2-3 I.D's for the sake because i was being abused by friends that wiki is a place that no one can create page easily , u have not the will . see they make you effortless !!!! That's why i make the I.D Kat Mano and then asked for your email a few minutes ago to take guidelines about that. Even yesterday i make the page again by doing efforts and created it , also u was teaching me and you very guiding me very excellent and sensible than the others at that time and i was ready to make edits and delete the contents that looks promotional so it will give me lesson for the next time when i make such more pages that what tp write or what to not. but again blocked as sockpuppet. So here i am all the administrators , not the sockpuppet , original person here to speak !!! My questions is to all the admins ??? 1. if you are authority than you are God ?? You can suck anyone without teaching him if he is new ?? Great !! Then deliver a message again to community and make this I.D also block . Go on !! But what will you say now ? Sockpuppet ?? This is original and i can prove this.. Still no queries , i appologize from all the admins if anyone got irritated from me. I was new you all should give me the chance to edit and look my content again , if any pharase looks promotional , you can delete that ,,,, even i got learning from that !! Dear Nyttend it's a formal request to you to please undelete the yesterday page and guide me about the pharases that showing it promotional. Or it's upto you block me. That's last time i am here. Decioun is yours Regards Asimbwp1 (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! I opened a discussion here to try to get an NPOV resolution. So add your arguments --Cs california (talk) 06:34, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for adding your opinions. Just wanted you to know I just post on Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard to get a NPOV answer than Wikiproject Cities. If the resolution of the third party says to remove the maps then I will personally remove all the ones I added and also additional ones which I did not add since it can be used as a NPOV reference. That way you won't have to deal with the cleanup of the pages. --Cs california (talk) 09:24, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

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Indus script

I changed all remaining BC to the more modern BCE. Chaipau (talk) 00:31, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

I am removing inconsistencies. There were both BCE as well as BC. I changed the remaining BCs to BCEs. Chaipau (talk) 01:29, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Go ahead. Keep the BCs. Chaipau (talk) 04:05, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

"name" field policy in school articles

User_talk:Corkythehornetfan asked me to comment at User_talk:Corkythehornetfan#University_of_West_Georgia. I commented, but I can't find the Wikipedia policy. Basically the question is: should "Dr" (doctor) title be included in the name field in the infobox of school articles. If you know the answer, then please reply. You don't need to reply to me. Thanks. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 22:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Request to lift my de facto topic ban

Hello Nyttend, this is with regard to this ANI event and our discussions here on your talk page and on mine when you gave me a de facto topic ban on Sino-Indian topics. I request you to lift the ban. I received the ban even before I knew about the ANI, and before I could put forward my explanations. In our discussions, I think I've explained most of your concerns / issues. As I've tried to explain to you, the allegations about POV pushing are really not true, you can see the discussions on the talk pages where I've explained my edits. Please let me know if you still have any concerns regarding my editing apart from Copyright Violations. As for Copyright Violations, I understand clearly the seriousness of the matter and that any infringement is intolerable. The Discoverer (talk) 15:14, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Nyttend! I do not intend to pro-actively edit Sino-Indian topics, but I really wanted to clear my name. The Discoverer (talk) 15:26, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

CDPs Florida

Hi Nyttend, thank you so much for your advice! I knew the GNIS database but didn't know you can make this kind of search there. Things can be so simple! Regards, Dionysos1988 (talk) 16:14, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I need some other help and maybe you're the right one to ask! :) After synchronizing all CDP places of Florida by using the GNIS, there are eleven places left which are not listed in the database of the US Census Bureau. If you insert the names here, you either don't get any statistics or the name cannot be found at all. The affected places are

As every entry date of these places is before April 1st, 2010, there should be statistics of the last census actually... do you have any idea why there aren't? Regards, Dionysos1988 (talk) 00:44, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

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Coordinates of Fiberglas Tower

With this edit back in 2012, you added coordinates to Fiberglas Tower. I've just now discovered that they were way off and corrected them. I'm not sure what could have caused that error. Can you see if you know, and if so, correct any others that you may have added the same error to? Thanks, Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:22, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Jackmcbarn, the incorrect coordinates, 39°3′3″N 87°33′53″W / 39.05083°N 87.56472°W, are those of the National Register-listed Union Christian College in Merom, Indiana. Presumably I had that page open, copy/pasted the infobox, and changed all the information in the parameters, except for overlooking the coord change. A member of WP:NRHP maintains an infobox generator, which is highly useful when you're writing a new article or expanding an existing one, but it's only useful when the property was NR-listed before the National Park Service last updated the database from which the infobox generator is drawn. With newly listed properties, like the Fiberglas Tower, you've got to fill it out manually or copy/paste from somewhere else. Nyttend (talk) 02:17, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

You might be interested

in Cold Spring Township, Lebanon County, Pennsylvania Smallbones_(smalltalk) 21:01, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Your USPS question answered

Nyttend, is my answer to your Reference Desk question question what you were looking for? I would like to see the authoritative reference incorporated in an article or two and will do so myself if you are no longer interested. Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#In-store_USPS -- Paulscrawl (talk) 06:38, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

It is, and thank you; I'm in the middle of drafting a community post office article. Nyttend (talk) 12:45, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Excellent. I look forward to your clarifications of a confusing welter of terms. Paulscrawl (talk) 21:26, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Paulscrawl, see the new Community post office page. It's too basic to be hugely useful, but hopefully it will be a good introduction. I ignored the second link you provided because while it indeed makes good background reading as you said, it doesn't come from an authoritative source. I just realised that I forgot to mention CPOs on university campuses, so I'll get that later after I step out. Nyttend (talk) 14:19, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Very good; well referenced. Love the moose! -- Paulscrawl (talk) 18:25, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! It took a long time to find the moose, trolling through lots of Commons categories fruitlessly; I'd originally wanted a photo of the post office at some university, but to my surprise I couldn't find any images of a university post office. Nyttend (talk) 18:36, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Green, Ohio

Can you please explain this edit? https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Green%2C_Ohio&type=revision&diff=672431062&oldid=672431022 How is track and field redundant? I feel as though it provides brief, but adequate information in the type of events in which Croghan participated. Your reply is appreciated. Thanks π♂101 (talk) 19:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I found out that Orange Suede Sofa undid the edit after I wrote a reply to you on my talk page. I'll let you two resolve this, if you still care about the minor squabble. Thanks π♂101 (talk) 20:51, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Complaint on Reddit about Wikipedia

I noticed a complaint on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/3e52ie/i_found_an_editor_who_seems_to_be_pushing_an/
List of law enforcement agencies in Ohio (you might want to examine and watch this article)
Please see comments at User_talk:PaulinSaudi. Thanks!

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PA Muni

Heading up to finish Allegheny County today. Generic1139 (talk) 13:00, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Added to the list. I didn't know you have left the area. Generic1139 (talk) 13:40, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I"ll have the rest of Butler uploaded in a few hours, don't bother with a map update. Generic1139 (talk) 01:32, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

"What's going on there?"

I'm not quite sure, actually. Perhaps you'd care to explain. I know only that you arrived at Template:In the news and replaced our newly implemented format with a malformed approximation of the old one. —David Levy 14:00, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

So it's a new consensus format? I assumed that it had gotten updated by someone who wasn't familiar with the Main Page's normal working and added a caption as in an article, instead of the Main Page standard of (pictured). People are always so picky about where the italics go (italicise the parentheses, don't italicise the parentheses), and I can't remember, so I just skip them entirely and wait for someone else to add them. Nyttend (talk) 14:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

We've adopted the new format at ITN, DYK and OTD (along with FTFA and FTFL, when appropriate). As with any and every significant change, the underlying consensus has been questioned. In particular, some editors didn't regard the removal of the (pictured) notation (all-italic, incidentally) as an intrinsic element. There appears to be a fair amount of support for (and little opposition to) its continued inclusion, so it's been tentatively revived (while retaining the caption). —David Levy 14:21, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Help me understand the difference

You tagged my photo of a roadside sign as a copyvio. I'm trying to understand the difference between mine and this [1] photo. Mine is paid for by tax dollars, placed by a government entity. The other one is paid for by private funds and placed by a private organization. In both cases, the signs are the focal point of the picture. Can you help me understand the difference? Niteshift36 (talk) 15:54, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Washington & Jefferson College is, in fact, a copyrighted name of the school. Length alone shouldn't really be the issue. All the sign does is reproduce a government document. This would be no different than me taking a photo of any other public record document. The fact that this one was actually meant to be seen by as many people as possible (which is why the put it 3 feet off of a historic road) tends to make me question whether the state asserts a copyright over it. Niteshift36 (talk) 12:30, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Template:PD-text says:"Facts, data, and unoriginal information which is common property without sufficiently creative authorship in a general typeface or basic handwriting, and simple geometric shapes are not protected by copyright." Why wouldn't this apply? The sign is merely reciting facts about events that happened 200 years prior in a fairly matter of fact way. There wasn't much in the way of creativity involved, just 3 sentences of facts and data in a basic typeface. Niteshift36 (talk) 12:36, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I misspoke when I said copyright and was thinking trademark. That said, you could point something out without the attitude you've been giving me since the first response. I'm not brand new and I am actually asking questions to help understand the issue. Your responses have dripped with condescension. Your snippy reply about "reproduce a book" is not what I said. Obviously a book would have creativity involved. 3 sentences of mainly facts and dates, not so much. And your summary that it's about being able to say such and such happened seems off base when you consider it also talks about "basic typeface" or handwriting. So riddle me this: If the local govt. tapes a paper to my door, telling me that a water main broke and I should boil water for the next 24 hours, going on to tell me why I should boil water, would that be copyrighted? Niteshift36 (talk) 12:49, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, I guess that attitude just isn't going to disappear. Love the last part about how I opened myself up to a lawsuit for taking a picture of a street sign produced by tax dollars. I'll wait here for that....feel free to report me to the commonwealth. I'm sure they'll jump right on that one.) Niteshift36 (talk) 13:22, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

BTW, this article [2], posted on the PA govt website, written by employees of the commission, actually promotes 2 websites that encourage people to photograph the markers and posting them online. In any case, I've emailed them to ask directly about using the photo on Wikipedia. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Steiger RfC

Good block. Incidentally, can you do something about this? Cassianto^Talk 20:05, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

My bad

My bad. I was just trying to be amusing in my post-script to the AN/I discussion, but obviously humor is not my strong point. I apologize for being unfunny and ruffling your feathers. And Adoil Descended (talk) 19:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC) has given you a dove! Doves promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day happier. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a dove, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past (this fits perfectly) or a good friend. Cheers!

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Timing out problem

Resaving worked. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:22, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Demographics

Twice now, you have introduced content with a broken reference into an article. Your claim that these statistics are retained nationwide is spurious. There is no need for an entire section describing demographics from the 2000 census if the 2010 census figures have their own paragraph, especially given the historical population table which summarizes past census figures quite nicely. Thanks. Omnedon (talk) 18:01, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

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DRN Notice

Hello Nyttend.
      Sadly it has become obvious that our one-on-one discussion on the Miss Cleo talk page is never going to lead to anything even remotely resembling an agreement. So I have added this issue to the DRN.
      I am hopeful and optimistic that the addition of a moderator to the mix may create an atmosphere where we may eventually find a convergence, maybe not of our opinions, but at least of what we are willing to accept for the Miss Cleo article. My understanding is that I am supposed to notify all editors who are involved or have been involved in the dispute. (So far that's just you and me.) So just to make it official, I am now posting a copy of this message on your user talk page. May I make the suggestion that, if you respond, you do so on the article talk page, just so there will be a page with a complete record of our conversation; but of course where and even whether you respond is entirely your own prerogative.
      I find it truly regrettable that it has come to this. But I feel it is the appropriate thing to do at this point.
Richard27182 (talk) 06:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Moving Burma to Myanmar - new 2015 poll

You participated in a Burma RM in the past so I'm informing you of another RM. I hope I didn't miss anyone. New move attempt of Burma>Myanmar Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:52, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your reply about World War II at the administrators' noticeboard! Iceblock (talk) 20:09, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Battle of the Atlantic

As you predicted here, a Block due to differences of opinions about one phrase here, occurred. But against another IP number. If possible your opinion would be appreciated. 189.121.138.15 (talk) 15:23, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

About the case 'Talk:Miss Cleo#WP:NPOV issue' in DRN

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Nationwide

I believe I have a lot more supporters nationwide ,  they were there in the midst of it all and saw what are my government did to me and the money that they took from them that was meant for me and they can't so they're my biggest supporters I think I would have a better outcome if it was nationwide .WP.NICKNAME.22 WP.NICKNAME.22 11:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WP.NICKNAME.22 (talk • contribs)

Timeline restrictions for school

Governments made it really hard because they've made all the grants competition .  I think they were trying to postpone  it's so I would not get my funds .  Is that still in place or will they have to revise that now ?WP.NICKNAME.22 WP.NICKNAME.22 13:09, 12 August 2015 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WP.NICKNAME.22 (talk • contribs)

Deleting redirects

Hi Nyttend. I recently tried for a speedy delete on a couple of redirects[3][4] which you removed. No problem with that, just want to check why (probably because there are better things to do :) )? Bromley86 (talk) 02:43, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I picked the spam criterion because the chap who set it up did so as part of a promo egotrip. There's zero reliable mention of "Lesser Diesel" out there (there is of Lesser, but there's no evidence that he went into business with Diesel), so it's not notable and is unambiguous advertising or promotion. I.e. it was set up purely so he can benefit from Lesser's historic reputation; that was effectively the conclusion a moderator involved in a long-running saga over on Quatloos! came to.[5].

Can't see any other G or R criteria that might apply. As I said, np if there's no way to delete it; I was just tidying up. Assuming they can't be deleted, I'm curious what would happen if I set up a bunch of spurious redirects? Not that I'm going to, naturally. Bromley86 (talk) 08:55, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Perfect! I'm not familiar with WP:RFD, but I'll have a read when I get a chance. If I get hopelessly lost, I'll take you up on your kind offer. Cheers, Bromley86 (talk) 12:55, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Found the reason for false "potential vandalism" tags

Dear Nyttend, Thank you very much for your positive and encouraging comment! Best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alphabett (talk • contribs) 08:33, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

I think I found the reason - it is the beta visual editor. The visual editor has a bug. Sometimes, when it shows captcha, there is no way to enter the right letters - for some reason it it doesn't accept the right letters. I do manage to save the edit, however, if I use the old method. So once I fail captcha a few times, the system concludes that it's a potential vandalism. A bit annoying, since I find the visual editor much easier.

PS Thanks for the nice message that you sent me earlier :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alphabett (talk • contribs) 18:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Redirection of example files

Why did you delete File:Example.png and File:Example.gif and redirect them to File:Example.jpg? The png and gif versions can for example be used to test whether software like browsers and Wikimedia image scaling works with the file types. It's confusing if you actually get a jpg image when you test code with gif or png. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:12, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring them. It looks fine. I don't know why Commons would redirect a file name to another file type. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:38, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Margaret Sanger protection

Would you consider extending the protection of Margaret Sanger to around a week or so to deter the edit warring I expect to see when the shields drop this afternoon? The article will still be there in a week after everyone has had a chance to acquire some objectivity, and I expect it will be in much better shape if it's been protected. Chrononem ☎ 16:03, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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Eager to do more Alphabett

Dear Nyttend,

Thanks for your lengthy and detailed response.

"You're welcome! Good work on identifying the potential issue. The visual editor is a comparatively new thing..."

Thanks :) Also, I figured I could do the editing on the visual editor, then switch to the old method to save the changes there. No problems that way.

"Meanwhile, did you see the response that Black Kite left for you at Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives?... If you truncate everything after the books?id=p4lwXozo8YcC, the filter may not throw a fit as readily..."

It's a good thing to know. I'll definitely try it!

So far I've edited a few articles in the fields of my expertise. However, I feel that I can contribute to the Wikipedia community much more. Are there any organized efforts going on? It would be nice to work with other people who are as excited as I am :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alphabett (talk • contribs) 10:22, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Re: Margaret Sanger protection

Another edit war already seems to be in the works at Margret Sanger. I hope you'll consider at least a week of page protection. One editor in particular seems to be intent on starting something and I believe he'll lose interest if enough time passes. Chrononem ☎ 13:39, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Is that what you have in mind to keep the article POV, Chrononem? The Banner talk 13:55, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

protection is needed due to Chrononem's refusal to respect consensus. Jason from nyc (talk) 14:07, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

[edit conflict] As usual in the case of an edit war, I've not looked here to see what perspective each person's been advocating: as long as I can tell that it's not a case of vandal-versus-vandalfighter, I don't care what each person's position is. However, the fact that Chrononem requested pre-emptive protection, together with the fact that it's lately been Chrononem reverting someone, followed by someone reverting Chrononem, followed by someone else making big changes, makes me wonder if Chrononem was waiting until his position was current before requesting protection. Since Chrononem and Jason from nyc have been the only repeated warriors, if I remember rightly (not going to take any actions until I check the history again, lest I've forgotten something), it would also be possible just to block them and let everyone else edit. If Chrononem asks that it be protected on the version after his, I'll be convinced that he's not trying to game the system. Nyttend (talk) 14:11, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't care when protection is applied, besides "soon". If it was applied now there would be a greater chance of the article returning to neutral POV later but I don't see anything good coming of letting it remain open. Especially since one editor has already violated the 1RR on the page since it was unprotected. Chrononem ☎ 14:43, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

More vandalism, protection is sorely needed. Edit by 104.169.74.80 Chrononem ☎ 15:13, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

If Chrononem agrees and joins me I propose we both voluntarily refrain from editing the article for a week. We both have much to say in the talk and we can make our case there but let's allow others to do the edits on the actual article. If that helps, I'm willing. What do you say, Chrononem? Jason from nyc (talk) 20:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

If @The Banner: joins in then it's a deal. I still feel that protection would improve the article's prospects. I know of at least two editors that will continue to war on the page in our absence. Chrononem ☎ 20:46, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

I thought just you and me would take it down a notch. You can ask "The Banner" and @Schwarzschild Point: to pair off also. But a gentleman's agreement between the two of us isn't enough? Jason from nyc (talk) 20:52, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

RPP replies displaying strangely

Hi, when you mark pages as semi-protected on RPP it seems to show the duration in seconds and fractions e.g. 172800 seconds and 1/4 year instead of 2 days and 3 months. Is there something wrong with the template? It only seems to be happening for you. Do you know what's gone wrong, because I can't tell where the problem might lie. Alicia Florrick (talk) 19:20, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Problem with SHAARD?

Hi --- over the last couple weeks I've been unable to access NRHP forms in SHAARD. Therefore, I can't really work on any new stubs. Do you know of any problems?--Pubdog (talk) 19:33, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

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RM Bongbong Marcos back to Ferdinand Marcos, Jr.

Hello, I noticed you participated in the 2012/13 discussion to move to Bongbong Marcos, which ended in "not moved". Someone started a new discussion a few months ago with barely any participation, not even taking in the factors mentioned in the initial RM and they moved it anyways. Perhaps you'd be interested to voice your opinion in the new RM I just started. Thanks.Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 09:57, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for pinging you just now, but is there any chance you could take a look at something?

An ANI report was filed by a user, and now that it's started turning against him he is attempting to unilaterally close it[6][7] and has altered others' comments to disrupt the flow of the discussion[8] -- is it against protocol to issue short blocks in such cases to allow discussion to take place? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:49, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places listings in Grenada County, Mississippi

Thank you for creating National Register of Historic Places listings in Grenada County, Mississippi. Do you know if Golladay Hall, said to be listed on the NRHP here, is listed by another name on the webpage you created? I'd like to create a referenced stub at least. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 06:06, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Alfred de Grazia

I have added to the https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Alfred_de_Grazia talk page more concerning the provenance of the picture used in his war book. In summary, I believe either a secretary of his last wife Anne-Marie de Grazia uploaded the picture. It is a serious matter, despite the fact that it is a very close match to an existing photograph, probably in the Library of Congress https://www.pinterest.com/pin/347340189988471388/ is a true picture of him some years after the war. I feel strongly about this because it is doing a tremendous disservice to those who depend upon the truth to obtain restitution or reparations for their wartime losses. Really, the picture is a close match only to those who never knew my father Alfred de Grazia.Jagtig (talk) 23:35, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

One-time error checking help

Hi! I think, that I would be able to get you a template, that should ease your work. Are you still interested? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 20:50, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

I suppose, I should answer here. Well, the template, that you should use, would be like {{subst:some template|countyname|type}}, place name would be set automatically. If you take county by county, then there would be less errors, probably. But OK, if you have done your project, then nevermind. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 04:56, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Qewr4231

Hi Nyttend, I think it's time to pull the plug on Qewr4231. More Kip McKean soapboxing here. I don't know if a topic ban would help, but I haven't seen a whole lot of worthwhile editing from this account, so I don't know that we'd be missing much. I've thought about indeffing him myself, but I'm probably WP:INVOLVED. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:31, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I should mention that this latest rant is just a continuation of this rant in mid-August that I chose not to respond to. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:30, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, I've rereblocked him, but only for six months instead of indefinitely; I figured that it might not be best to block indefinitely with nothing longer than one month having preceded it. Next year, if you notice anything else, let me know and I'll rerereblock him. Nyttend (talk) 18:16, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Okee doke. Seems reasonable. Thanks for the assist. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:32, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review for Poetry in the early 21st century

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Poetry in the early 21st century. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. MusicAngels (talk) 15:55, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Bellefontaine, Ohio

Do you know Cincinnati is Category:1788 establishments in the Northwest Territory but the city wasn't named Cincinnati till 1790? So if Bellefontaine is traced back to 1777, 1777 might be appropriate. Indian Reserve was claimed by the United States at the time too.

Frankly the article needs to be consistent as to when the community was founded but the sources and article are inconsistent and all over the place, 1777, 1817, 1818 according to a reference in the article, and 1820....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:04, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Thomas Faith House pic

Hey bud --- check out SHAARD pic and compare to your pic. Removing your pic from National Register of Historic Places listings in Daviess County, Indiana.--Pubdog (talk) 18:38, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Fantasy Strictly Come Dancing

Would you reconsider your decisions on User:Carmelo Pizzino/sandbox, and User:Tim Stillwell/sandbox as plausible drafts? Both are claiming to be Strictly Come Dancing (series 13) for which we have an article, and both sandboxes have completely different casts which are also different from the real show's announced cast. Furthermore, the Carmelo Pizzino/sandbox is actually being editted by User:Tim Stillwell. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 10:42, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

I've nominated them through MFD. -- Whpq (talk) 12:58, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Oh, sorry to have ignored you: I didn't notice your message, having not been online between when you left it and when the following section was created. The only appropriate use for this criterion is blatantly unencyclopedic things, such as people playing web games and teachers using the wiki to host student assignments; this kind of thing is better for MFD. Nyttend (talk) 13:05, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Terrace Park photo request

I added two images from Terrace Park, Ohio.

Regards,

--Greg5030 (talk) 17:41, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Citation templates

While I'm not going to revert Mull Covered Bridge again, I'm still in disagreement about two things: One, WP:CITEVAR mentions consistency within a page and consensus, but it generally refers to how things are displayed in the public articles, not in the wiki markup; using or not using templates really doesn't change the appearance of footnotes. Two, I don't find the templates "confusing" or "complicated" since their design lends themselves to be simple – just drop in the appropriate variables – and I certainly wasn't "imposing" anything, since their very existence implies that they are expected to be used. Mapsax (talk) 01:14, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Lycoming County pics

I got a couple of townships in Lycoming County, but I noticed that Mill Creek Township has no picture, but has been marked as done. For whatever reason, GIMP won't let me fix it, can you? Thanks. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 02:01, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

File:Flatwoods monster.gif

Thanks for the advice. I did try putting it up at FFD, going through Twinkle and ticking the "possible unfree file" box, but a bot cleared its throat at me so I went for {{di-disputed fair use rationale}} instead.

Is it worth kicking it over to a straight "general discussion" FFD instead at this point? I may be completely wrong about the validity of the rationale, and wouldn't want a useful file to be lost just because I disputed it and a closing admin took me seriously. --McGeddon (talk) 08:27, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Ah, from the way Twinkle presented the options I assumed it was a subset rather than a different forum entirely. Thanks for clarifying. --McGeddon (talk) 11:52, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

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ANI thread closure

When you closed this ANI thread, I was about to reply to Baseball Bugs there. Now it says "No further edits should be made to this discussion", so I assume I shouldn't reply. But I asked about something there that no one has answered yet, and now I'm not sure how to get an answer. Could you look at the diffs I linked to in that post, and provide some advice about how to handle this situation? 43.228.158.25 (talk) 22:50, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Per your suggestion, I've made a proposal at the Village Pump: [9] I'm not sure if I've done it the right way, so your attention there would be appreciated. 43.228.158.49 (talk) 15:48, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manika (singer)

There was a clear consensus to keep. There was no consensus for "TNT delete". Both of the editors at the ANI discussion supported retention. Please reconsider your closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manika (singer). Cunard (talk) 03:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

In reply to your comment here, there was no consensus that "we need to start over". Otherwise, the participants would have voted "WP:TNT delete", which they did not. Cunard (talk) 03:14, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I've taken this to Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 September 9#Manika (singer). Cunard (talk) 03:32, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to subscribe to the edit filter mailing list

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Stalking block

Hello Nyttend. I noticed that you recently blocked Pluto2012 for stalking Settleman. Unfortunately he's returned from the block and started almost immediately again (following Settleman to Talk:Bezalel Smotrich, having never edited the article or talk page previously). Also, I don't know if you had seen that Pluto questioned your judgement for blocking him based on your ethnicity... Number 5 7 19:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

User talk page deletion policy

Please read through WP:UP#DELETE carefully. Notice how it goes out of its way to mention "user talk archives created by page move" (multiple times) and not just "user talk archives". The reason is that the history would be deleted along with the archive. This is not an issue for cut-and-paste archives, so they should be deleted upon user request per normal userspace practice. Mdrn (talk) 01:07, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Wayne Co Wiki

I am working on the https://www.wcpl.info/genealogy/index.php/Portal:Business A Wayne Co Wiki for history in the our county. We are looking for wiki editors. Also, this project is rather large and something I am not sure has been done anywhere before. It is exciting to see the power of wiki. Open to suggestions & editors!! Thanks!!! jyergin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.213.14.76 (talk) 18:29, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Requesting a Review

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_files/2015_September_9&oldid=680825039

In summary: Image of a sport trophy.. Image claimed as Own work - PUF thread started, Uploader got upset and responded with new information- PUF withdrawn and new information copied to image.

I'd appreciate some feedback on this, as the uploader seemed a bit upset about the original referral. I thought PUF was a discussion, not an "allegation" as the uploader put it. Sfan00 IMG (talk)

Turkey socking

Heimdallr of Æsir (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Lord of Rivendell (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Superfluous man (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

See my suggestion for the origin of User:Heimdallr of Æsir, who you recently blocked for 24 hours. If you think this connection to User:Lord of Rivendell is plausible, it might be worth adding his name to WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Lord of Rivendell. The Lord's most recent registered account, as of May 2015, was User:Superfluous man. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 22:10, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration clarification request archived

The Kww and The Rambling Man arbitration clarification request dated 4 August 2015, which you were listed as a party to, has been closed and archived to the Kww and The Rambling Man case talk page. For the Arbitration Committee, L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 03:26, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

File:Jose Mauri.png

This image contains an "acmilan.com" watermark and copyright message in the lower right corner. Given that the uploader has claimed authorship and copyright for a slew of pictures that actually come from various websites, I've simply stopped assuming good faith on their part. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 12:49, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Sonny Fredie Pedersen

Hi Nyttend

Your account has today deleted an article I was working on. I was in the process of adding and finishing the article. Would you reopen the article?

Sonny Fredie Pedersen is a notable Danish celebrity. With significant results and acclaim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaneKnowledge (talk • contribs) 20:59, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Josef Tal

In regard to your last correction: Except one (DER TURM) all Tal's operas libretti were written originally in Hebrew and then translated according to the Premiere needs. I hope this clarifies the issue. Thanks! Etan J. Tal^(talk) 10:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Watch Me

Thank you for the CSD assist on this multi-page move. Tiggerjay (talk) 21:59, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Page: Charbel Habchi

Charbel Habchi shouldn't redirect to the band since he also runs a blog and needs a personal page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherylynbarnes (talk • contribs) 22:22, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

I didn't ask for you to delete the page. You can keep the page in it's state for now until a decision has been about both the band's page and the person's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherylynbarnes (talk • contribs) 22:49, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Undeletion of File:Bill Ottman.jpeg

Hi, Nyttend!

We now have an OTRS ticket for this image, VRTS ticket # 2015072310027736. Can you please undelete? Thanks! KDS4444^Talk 23:42, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Categories as 'defining'

Hello Nyttend. I was looking at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 27#A few more award categories to see if I understand how these debates are usually closed, thinking of handling a closure myself. Since you commented there, I have someone I can ask. What do people mean by saying a category is 'defining'? Is that like saying that the award is an actual honor, and not a pro-forma thing? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 00:14, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Windex.php listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Windex.php. Since you had some involvement with the Windex.php redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. - The ChampionMan 1234 21:52, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Nominate

Hi, @Nyttend:, I noticed you have edited this page in the past. There have been quite a lot of recent edits by Esquivalience, a relatively new editor, and I wondered if, as an experienced administrator, you could look them over and see if they enhance the instructions for prospective nominators, or not. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 14:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Notability debate

Hello User:Nyttend. Firstly please explain your rationale for keeping' the basketball articles because I am close to arbitration. There is absolutely no indication as to why these are notable at all. So I think we should enter a proper and friendly conversation about why you believe it is notable so I can follow on the same thought process. ' Olowe2011 ^Talk 11:12, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Furthermore see my WP:NV1 for information on the rationale I have for getting rid of these articles. They have limited references and very little if any media coverage. It is just a sham. Olowe2011 ^Talk 11:16, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
I do not mean and apologize if I appear or seem to be coming off abrasive. You seem to be a constructive administrator the issue here is that I have yet to actually see any validation that these types of article in fact could be considered notable. Take this from an outsider prospective (such is mine.) I am British and do not have any involvement with that area and I come across a page with one reference which is a self published source and no claim of notability. That is how I am seeing it so unless there is some secret thing I have not seen how else am I supposed to judge these sorts of articles Olowe2011 ^Talk 11:19, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

… for deleting Category:Documentary films about blindness. But I suppose I'm misusing the move function doing it this way. I'd created a number of the subcategories in Category:Documentary films about people with disabilities and I regret not following the "Documentary films about people with…" structure. But I suppose I should really be using WP:CFDS rather than preceding in this way, even if the categories were created by me? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:31, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks and if I didn't create them recently, would you consider that a misuse of the function? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I wasn't even aware of the 28 days thing. I don't see it at Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G7. I'll use CFDS for the others. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:44, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

File:Sayers—Whose Body, UK cover.jpg

Whitish squiggle, right at the bottom of the coat of the man on the left. It's only unreadable as a signature because the image is small scale, but that's very obviously an artist's signature if you've seen images like this. Something on the lines of - Well, I can't read it, so I'll use "x" for unknown letters - C. Xxxxx and then a long line - a common flourish at the end of a signature. We could possibly fair use it, but I'm actually having a lot of trouble finding any other example of it being published with this dust jacket, which makes me wonder about how authentic this is. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 16:54, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:RJGray/Sandboxcantor deleted my rewrite of a Wikipedia article

Hi, The speedy delete software seems to have made a mistake. The site http://research.omicsgroup.org/index.php/Cantor%27s_first_uncountability_proof that supposedly has a copyright version of the Cantor uncountability proof article really has a copy of Wikipedia's Cantor's first uncountability proof, which means that they may be violating Wikipedia's copyright policy by not stating they got it from Wikipedia.

I am actually the person who did the majority of the writing on this article. Just check the May 5, 2009 revision: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Cantor%27s_first_uncountability_proof&direction=next&oldid=277413416, and the January 10, 2010 revision: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Cantor%27s_first_uncountability_proof&oldid=339459647.

I am currently working on a rewrite of the article since it failed in GA Review because of major problems with the old article. The page that was deleted is my rewrite which I had planned on working on today. Please undelete it as soon as possible.

Also, I suggested that in the future, the speedy delete software first check the Wikipedia article to see if a site is posting a Wikipedia article. This would have been very easy in this case since the webpage that supposedly had copyrighted material: http://research.omicsgroup.org/index.php/Cantor%27s_first_uncountability_proof ends with "Cantor%27s_first_uncountability_proof" and so the speedy delete software could just append this to "https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/" and detect that the site has a (perhaps slightly out of date) copy of a Wikipedia page.

By the way, you can check with Michael Hardy, who is the editor that knows I'm working on a rewrite.

Thank you, --RJGray (talk) 18:12, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Runik Mehrotra recreated

Hi, the user has recreated Runik Mehrotra. Ayub407^talk 18:47, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Deleted. Please note that G4 only applies to reposts of content deleted after a deletion discussion; AFDs are special because they get community input, unlike other deletions, although of course reposts of speedy-deleted pages can (as in this case) be re-deleted under the same criterion as the first time around. Nyttend (talk) 19:48, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks for letting me know. :) Ayub407^talk 13:24, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion on Rana Bahadur Singh Pundir

Hi Nyttend, You asked me why I have tagged this article Rana Bahadur Singh Pundir for speed deletion, You might want to take look at the report of copyright infringement here and you didn't check it. Please check the report and it showed 68.2% “Violation Possible“. I hope this would be a reason why i have tagged for copyright infringement which you asked in the summary “ Copyright infringement of whwat?”. ♔ MONARCH Talk to me 05:56, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Football at the 1956 Summer Olympics

I appreciate you taking the time to read over the discussion at Talk:Football at the 1956 Summer Olympics and come to a decision, but I must ask you to review your decision. There are many thousands of cases (at least) where disambiguation is required for a unique case, meaning the title of the article will differ from its siblings. To say the RM was unenforceable and should have been closed immediately is blatantly incorrect. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 14:35, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

I've started a MRV, see Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2015 September. I should add that despite what I've written there, I respect you a lot as an editor and an admin here and I genuinely do appreciate you taking the effort to handle some of the RM backlog. Best, Jenks24 (talk) 15:13, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Belchoir

Great minds think alike: as I clicked "edit" to remove the post-closing comment, it had already disappeared. Good call. Drmies (talk) 14:59, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Request for clarification

I know my own, personal, stream of consciousness comments are often indecipherable, so I am in no position to complain, but I get the impression that your comments closing WP:ANI#Δ talk page might be a bit clearer, as you say in this particular case the editor has been banned from improving or maintaining wikipedia, and shortly thereafter say "stop harassing someone for helping". I am going to assume that the second refers to someone other than Δ, but it might be a bit clearer if you spelled that out. John Carter (talk) 20:57, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, the closing reasons seems very strange. Δ is banned from "helping", so it is hardly "harrassment" to enforce the ban. It's too common in these cases to see a small number of supporters of a banned user try to apply IAR, but that would negate the entire point of the ban, which is that the user is no longer welcome to participate on the site, apart from appealing the ban. Moreover, there was no strong consensus in the thread that IAR should be applied, as the summary might imply existed. Opinions were mixed, and several people spoke in favor of removing talk page access, and several people who complained about the removals complained only that other users' comments were removed, not that Δ's comments were removed. — Carl (CBM · talk) 21:36, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 140#Custom script to obscure a link? - 185.108.128.5 (talk) 11:51, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up Yakut language

Thanks to you and User:EdJohnston for cleaning up my mistake on Yakut language. I originally wanted to move it and close it, but the Talk page already had content and could not be moved alongside the article, so I reverted my move and caused some issues with the page. Thanks for fixing all of it. Also, can you delete Talk:Yakut temp language? It appears that another editor created this page to try to move the Talk page, but it no longer appears to be needed. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 06:21, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Contacting you about your work on William English House

Hi, my family came across our family farmstead covered here, mostly by your work: William English House. We were just wondering if this was a general project for the National Register, or if you had some particular interest in that house, or what the story is. Either way, thanks! It's neat. --nathanbeach 02:23, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I bet we can find some historical photos of the house in the family archive to add to the article. Will keep it simple, though. --nathanbeach 19:45, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Protection edit-summary

Hi Nyttend. The edit-summary on your second protection log entry for Turkey refers to a "hoax". The thread at ANI contains additional clarification material regarding the "hoax" characterisation. In view of the information presented by FPaS and comments by another admin, would it be ok if you modified the protection log to remove the hoax allegation? Thank you for your time. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 19:56, 30 September 2015 (UTC)