User talk:Neil J Murray

Birmingham City F.C.

Hello, welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for trying to improve the Birmingham City F.C. page. About the kit sponsors/suppliers table: I took it out the first time because I thought it was too much detail for the club overview. Still do, for that matter, but if it's going to stay in, it needs to be a bit less intrusive, so I've collapsed the tables. And fixed the links so that Admiral and Pony don't link to pages about naval officers and small horses :-) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:28, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the welcome. I saw a similar table on the Everton FC article and thought it was something that was missing in the article as Birmingham have had a quite a few of both shirt sponsors and kit manufacturers. I agree though about the intrusiveness, when I looked at it last night I thought the tables were a bit intrusive sitting there in their own, but I think it's important information to have on the main article. I would think a separate article on the kits wouldn't be worthwhile as we have some of that on the http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Birmingham_City/Birmingham_City.htm website, but maybe it is, plus I was going to add a little bit about who made the kits prior to the big manufacturers taking over to try and soften their impact a bit, but I'm not sure it's worth doing.

Thanks for making the changes to the links and tables, I hadn't got round to checking them properly which I should have before posting it. I didn't know you could collapse the tables, interesting to know, thanks Neil J Murray (talk) 19:48, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to take part in a pilot study

Welcome to Wikipedia. I am a Wikipedian, who is studying the phenomenon on Wikipedia. I need your help to conduct my research on about understanding "Motivation of Wikipedia contributors." I would like to invite you to a short survey. Please give me your valuable time, which estimates only 5 minutes. cooldenny (talk) 21:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stats and records

Hello, and many thanks for keeping the managers list up to date, and sorting out my incompetence, much appreciated. Also thanks for getting the winless-at-home streak into the stats and records list without expanding that section too much. But I'm afraid the season records section is a step too far. Thing is, these articles are supposed to achieve comprehensive coverage of the important records without going over the top, and including stuff like what season Blues achieved fewest draws away from home in strikes me as just too much information. A stats-based article always runs the risk of violating the WP:NOTSTATS policy, and these football records pages (the featured ones, anyway, there's a list at WP:FL#British club football) all follow the same basic model of what's included and what isn't. Hope you understand, and I'm really sorry your hard work has gone to waste, but I'm going to remove it. If you don't agree or you'd like to hear other people's opinions on the matter, please feel free to raise it at the football project talk page. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:10, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Errors on 11 June

Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that an edit performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. It is as follows:

On the Birmingham City F.C. page, your edit caused an unnamed parameter error (help). (Fix | Ask for help)

Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:39, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Errors on 26 August

Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that an edit performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. It is as follows:

On the 2003–04 Birmingham City F.C. season page, your edit caused a URL error (help). (Fix | Ask for help)

Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:32, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for August 27

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited 2005–06 Birmingham City F.C. season, you added links pointing to the disambiguation pages London Road and Viking Stavanger. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 09:00, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

8–0

Hello. If we're defining record win/defeat as widest winning/losing margin, then there's no difference between 9–1 and 8–0, and the 8–0s should have been included in the first place. Reliable sources such as Statto and the Football League take that approach. Think the only problem with it is that there are so many of them: most teams seem to have only one or two instances of their record margins, not eight. If only Bournemouth had scored again, the section would have looked much tidier... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 22:27, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Coaching staff

How I look at it is

if the post is a senior general position on the playing side (director of football, manager, assistant, head coach, first-team coach, possibly GK coach and chief scout) it goes in; or
if the post is more junior or more technical (reserve team manager, fitness coach, kitman, physio, sports science staff, masseur) but is held by a person already notable (i.e. qualifying for a Wikipedia page) for something else, generally their playing career, it goes in; but
if neither case applies, it doesn't. Which is why I removed Darren Robinson as head of performance, which I assume means some sort of senior sports scientist (assuming he isn't a former player that I've never come across).

I think it's an approach that avoids degenerating into the sort of lists of random names that you get on some other club pages, such as here, or this truly magnificent creation complete with flags for invented nationalities. Some club pages seem to manage perfectly well without staff lists at all, apart from players.

Anyway, why Beale stays under that approach is that a caretaker manager of a club in a so-called fully professional league, even for two games, is individually notable and thus qualifies for his own WP page, even if no-one's written him one yet. See here for recent-ish confirmation.

On another note, I see Sir Gary's been saying all the right things: like "The team need to work hard for each other" and "Players that have been previously overlooked will get a chance and that is important", and "Players will know quickly if they fall below my standards". Hope it works... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:16, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for July 19

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited 2015–16 Birmingham City F.C. season, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Shane Lowry. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 09:05, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom elections are now open!

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:45, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Results summary error

Definitely beyond my pay grade, as well... People are looking at it, see here, so hopefully there's somebody clever enough to work out what went wrong. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 07:19, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reference errors on 23 April

Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that an edit performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. It is as follows:

On the 2015–16 Birmingham City F.C. season page, your edit caused a URL error (help). (Fix | Ask for help)

Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:22, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

Hello, Neil J Murray. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2017 election voter message

Hello, Neil J Murray. Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2017 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2018 election voter message

Hello, Neil J Murray. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2019 election voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 on Monday, 2 December 2019. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2019 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:14, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 7 December 2020. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2020 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:31, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 6 December 2021. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2021 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:28, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]