User talk:Natureium/Archive 6
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Suicide
Just saw your messages. I would argue that this isn't censorship, but responding to a changing semantic landscape that is in accordance with several resources for reporting on suicide, including those referenced by Wikipedia's suicide task force: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Death/Suicide_task_force. This isn't my own personal preference but an update based on this. Is there a problem you have with this particular edit or my explanation for it? RNutske (talk) 02:03, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- This issue has been discussed many times on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not here to promote societal change. We have our own WP:MOS and don't adhere to recommendations by advocacy organizations or professional societies. This particular phrase has been the subject of many talk page discussions. On a more personal note, can you really say that the word that can upset people in "committed suicide" is "committed", not "suicide"?
- Can you share some of these talk page discussions for my own edification? These edits are being made in good faith and are in keeping with other edits I have seen on Wikipedia. This isn't about promoting societal change, it's about 1) responding to how language evolves over time and 2) responding to generally accepted ways of reporting on suicide that are a level of non-biased editorial standards.RNutske (talk) 02:28, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- The search function on Wikipedia leaves a lot to be desired, but I've found a few here, here, here, a few discussions here, here, here, and here. Natureium (talk) 02:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) And try here. General Ization Talk 02:53, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Can you share some of these talk page discussions for my own edification? These edits are being made in good faith and are in keeping with other edits I have seen on Wikipedia. This isn't about promoting societal change, it's about 1) responding to how language evolves over time and 2) responding to generally accepted ways of reporting on suicide that are a level of non-biased editorial standards.RNutske (talk) 02:28, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2019).
- A request for comment concluded that creating pages in the portal namespace should be restricted to autoconfirmed users.
- Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.
- XTools Admin Stats, a tool to list admins by administrative actions, has been revamped to support more types of log entries such as AbuseFilter changes. Two additional tools have been integrated into it as well: Steward Stats and Patroller Stats.
- In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases,
the committee will review all available information to determine whether the administrator followed "appropriate personal security practices" before restoring permissions
; administrators found failing to have adequately done sowill not be resysopped automatically
. All current administrators have been notified of this change. - Following a formal ratification process, the arbitration policy has been amended (diff). Specifically, the two-thirds majority required to remove or suspend an arbitrator now excludes (1) the arbitrator facing suspension or removal, and (2) any inactive arbitrator who does not respond within 30 days to attempts to solicit their feedback on the resolution through all known methods of communication.
- In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases,
- A request for comment is currently open to amend the community sanctions procedure to exclude non XfD or CSD deletions.
- A proposal to remove pre-2009 indefinite IP blocks is currently open for discussion.
Editing Archives
Is it against Wiki policy to edit archives? The archive in question contains personal information of mine that could connect this account to my personal life. I was attempting to remove it. Renamed user 2423tgiuowf 01:04, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- Archives are supposed to be left alone, but more relevant is that vanished users are not allowed to continue editing wikipedia. Natureium (talk) 01:08, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- Not attempting to continue editing the site. Just want to remove any reference to my old username (which was why I attempted to have my account disappeared in the first place) so that I can actually leave having genuinely disappeared my account. Is it against any policy to edit an archive? I can't find anything. Not trying to be a nuisance at all. Just want this resolved so I can leave knowing no one can connect this account to my personal life. Renamed user 2423tgiuowf 01:16, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Autopatrolled granted
Hi Natureium, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:45, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- I propose this be a permanent change to the template. Also, thanks. Natureium (talk) 18:51, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Amory - I can tell where this is going - It's how I got suckered in ;-) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:16, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm afraid there's a hole in that strategy. The more perms I already have, the less adminship would matter. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Natureium (talk) 16:27, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Indeed, we've been down this path before... ~ Amory (u • t • c) —Preceding undated comment added 16:35, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Amory - I can tell where this is going - It's how I got suckered in ;-) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:16, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Edits to "Quantified Self"
You reverted edits with the comment "it's a concept not a company." That's true - and I think you are arguing with your revert that citations to quantifiedself.com are not credible. Do you have a sense of what the best sourcing would be? The current source is to an old blog post that doesn't actually have anything matching the description on the page. What do you think of this source? https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs13347-016-0215-5 The description here matches "community" more than "movement" - but perhaps "concept is best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.74.246.74 (talk) 18:18, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- The issue is that you changed the lead from describing the concept of "quantified self" to describing a particular company named "Quantified Self". Natureium (talk) 13:42, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Bitey
Hi Natureium, I looked back at my comments yesterday on the Clarice Phelps DR and they were overly bitey towards you, so I've stricken some. Apologies. Polyamorph (talk) 05:28, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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Women in Red
Hi there, Natureium. I see you have been having a pretty rough time recently with members of Women in Red. I must say that as you have been creating many informative biographies of women scientists yourself, you obviously share our interest in the need to improve coverage of women on Wikipedia. I'm sure your comments on AfDs are made in perfectly good faith. I therefore wonder whether it would be constructive to try to improve our current criteria for notability as there are apparently quite a number of experienced editors who seem to think they are too stringent, especially in regard to academics. Maybe if you were to join WiR we could work on this together. We should obviously be working on criteria which apply equally to both men and women.--Ipigott (talk) 15:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I've been really enjoying the rude allegations about me and my motivations. It surely helps women in science to see how welcome they are on Wikipedia.
- I don't think the issue is with the NPROF guidelines. If anything, I share the frustration that some others have brought up that the fact that someone can be considered notable because of an h-index can leave us with an article with very little verifiable information. I've shown that there are many women that fit clearly within the NPROF guidelines. The issue is not with the guidelines applying unequally to men and women. The issue is that articles are being creating without regard for the notability guidelines. To really advance the recognition of women in science, we should create articles about women that have done truly noteworthy things rather than women early in their careers.
- By the way, I've created biographies of both male and female scientists using the same criteria (winning a significant scientific award). None of the biographies of women have been AfD'd, but three of the men have (all were kept though). Natureium (talk) 17:33, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- I, tool am very sorry to see some of the comments that have been lobbed your way over the past couple of days. I recused myself on voting on the Sarah Tuttle AFD for a couple of reasons (mostly because I wasn't kidding about the C in geology...I chose my art history degree for a reason), but I'm really not pleased with the tenor of the discussion as it has played out, and I think you were the subject of some statements that are unfair, to say the least. It really got to me last night. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- +1. I haven't !voted in the Tuttle AfD because I don't understand enough about the merits of things such as the fellowship but my comments there about the ranting etc and my concern about the potential for votestacking via Twitter etc are sincere. Our AfD system causes "no consensus" outcomes to retain the nominated article, which is a pet gripe of mine because I do think the burden should be to prove indubitable notability, not sit on the fence. - Sitush (talk) 06:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks guys. I have been pretty surprised by the tolerance of incivility and how far people are willing to go in insulting other editors. It's nice to see people recognize this. Natureium (talk) 17:44, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- I share Ser Amantio's sentiments. Hang in there Natureium, you're doing really important work and we're lucky to have you. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 22:01, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks guys. I have been pretty surprised by the tolerance of incivility and how far people are willing to go in insulting other editors. It's nice to see people recognize this. Natureium (talk) 17:44, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- +1. I haven't !voted in the Tuttle AfD because I don't understand enough about the merits of things such as the fellowship but my comments there about the ranting etc and my concern about the potential for votestacking via Twitter etc are sincere. Our AfD system causes "no consensus" outcomes to retain the nominated article, which is a pet gripe of mine because I do think the burden should be to prove indubitable notability, not sit on the fence. - Sitush (talk) 06:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- I, tool am very sorry to see some of the comments that have been lobbed your way over the past couple of days. I recused myself on voting on the Sarah Tuttle AFD for a couple of reasons (mostly because I wasn't kidding about the C in geology...I chose my art history degree for a reason), but I'm really not pleased with the tenor of the discussion as it has played out, and I think you were the subject of some statements that are unfair, to say the least. It really got to me last night. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help with the Anne-Claude Gingras article, and thanks for creating the big list of red links that inspired it. It looks like you've got your very own Women in Red project going on, so hopefully others will see this list and chip in. Cheers. – bradv🍁 17:51, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.18
Hello Natureium,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
- Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
- Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
- Reliable Sources for NPP
Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
- Backlog drive coming soon
Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
- News
- Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.
- Discussions of interest
- A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
- There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
- What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like
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DYK for Measles resurgence in the United States
On 18 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Measles resurgence in the United States, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although measles was declared eradicated from the United States in 2000, more than 500 people there have been diagnosed with the disease so far in 2019? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Measles resurgence in the United States. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Measles resurgence in the United States), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
"Die by Suicide"
I disagree with the assertion that I was censoring, and I certainly didn't "remove" any information from Wikipedia. I simply changed the phrase "commit suicide" to the more contemporary phrase "die by suicide," which is increasingly accepted within the mental health field. The phrase "commit" suicide implies that it's both a crime and a choice, which is not the case with mental illness. The update in terminology is similar to outdated/harmful/inaccurate slurs being updated as time passes. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silkalmondvanilla (talk • contribs)
- Hi Silkalmondvanilla. I'll reply since Natureium hasn't been around much the last few weeks. Wikipedia uses terminology cited by most sourced. While "die by suicide" may be new and "increasingly accepted," it is by and large not the majority used term to describe the act. You might be interested in this archived discussion on the topic. Killiondude (talk) 21:37, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019).
- Andonic • Consumed Crustacean • Enigmaman • Euryalus • EWS23 • HereToHelp • Nv8200pa • Peripitus • StringTheory11 • Vejvančický
- An RfC seeks to clarify whether WP:OUTING should include information on just the English Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project.
- An RfC on WT:RfA concluded that Requests for adminship and bureaucratship are discussions seeking to build consensus.
- An RfC proposal to make the templates for discussion (TfD) process more like the requested moves (RM) process, i.e. "as a clearinghouse of template discussions", was closed as successful.
- The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion. You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
- Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution! The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.
- The previously discussed unblocking of IP addresses indefinitely-blocked before 2009 was approved and has taken place.
- The 2019 talk pages consultation produced a report for Phase 1 and has entered Phase 2.
Hey
Came onto say that certain optimistic Barkeepers eagerly await your return. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:10, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
- Greatly missed! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 19:10, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
- Amorymeltzer, I prefer to think that Natureium is taking a well deserved wiki break and will be back to us recharged and ready to improve our scientific articles in the months to come. But yes no email makes me a sad panda too. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:13, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Just in case you end up reading this, we all decided you would have enjoyed being around for WP:FRAM. Hope, if you read this that you're doing well. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:21, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019
Hello Natureium,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.
- QUALITY of REVIEWING
Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.
- Backlog
The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.
- Move to draft
NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.
- Notifying users
Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.
- PERM
Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.
- Other news
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2019).
- 28bytes • Ad Orientem • Ansh666 • Beeblebrox • Boing! said Zebedee • BU Rob13 • Dennis Brown • Deor • DoRD • Floquenbeam1 • Flyguy649 • Fram2 • Gadfium • GB fan • Jonathunder • Kusma • Lectonar • Moink • MSGJ • Nick • Od Mishehu • Rama • Spartaz • Syrthiss • TheDJ • WJBscribe
- 1Floquenbeam's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.
- 2Fram's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.
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- A request for comment seeking to alleviate pressures on the request an account (ACC) process proposes either raising the account creation limit for extended confirmed editors or granting the account creator permission on request to new ACC tool users.
- In a related matter, the account throttle has been restored to six creations per day as the mitigation activity completed.
- The scope of CSD criterion G8 has been tightened such that the only redirects that it now applies to are those which target non-existent pages.
- The scope of CSD criterion G14 has been expanded slightly to include orphan "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects that target pages that are not disambiguation pages or pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists).
- A request for comment seeks to determine whether Wikipedia:Office actions should be a policy page or an information page.
- The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Community feedback is invited.
- In February 2019, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) changed its office actions policy to include temporary and project-specific bans. The WMF exercised this new ability for the first time on the English Wikipedia on 10 June 2019 to temporarily ban and desysop Fram. This action has resulted in significant community discussion, a request for arbitration (permalink), and, either directly or indirectly, the resignations of numerous administrators and functionaries. The WMF Board of Trustees is aware of the situation, and discussions continue on a statement and a way forward. The Arbitration Committee has sent an open letter to the WMF Board.
Administrators' newsletter – August 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).
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- Following a request for comment, the page Wikipedia:Office actions has been changed from a policy page to an information page.
- A request for comment (permalink) is in progress regarding the administrator inactivity policy.
- Editors may now use the template {{Ds/aware}} to indicate that they are aware that discretionary sanctions are in force for a topic area, so it is unnecessary to alert them.
- Following a research project on masking IP addresses, the Foundation is starting a new project to improve the privacy of IP editors. The result of this project may significantly change administrative and counter-vandalism workflows. The project is in the very early stages of discussions and there is no concrete plan yet. Admins and the broader community are encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page.
- The new page reviewer right is bundled with the admin tool set. Many admins regularly help out at Special:NewPagesFeed, but they may not be aware of improvements, changes, and new tools for the Curation system. Stay up to date by subscribing here to the NPP newsletter that appears every two months, and/or putting the reviewers' talk page on your watchlist.
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we miss you dearly
Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 00:29, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Natureim, you're a valued Wikipedian. Please come back. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 01:02, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
↑ Mz7 (talk) 21:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
+1 :( Galobtter (pingó mió) 04:40, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Still very true. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:16, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
- Wow, I come back for a visit and find that many of my friends have leveled up into admins and functionaries! Congrats, guys! I'm not really back to participate; I'm still sadly too busy and don't have much interest in the drama around here, but it's good to see that you all are making the 'pedia a better place. Natureium (talk) 16:57, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Natureium, I am so happy to read this. I mean happier if wikipedia was a place you wanted to return to but happy that you're living well. With so much affection, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:00, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Natureium, it's a Christmas miracle! You just made my day. :D – bradv🍁 18:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- It's Natureium!! I'm overjoyed to hear from you and I'm hoping you've had a wonderful year and holiday season <3 Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 19:46, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Couldn't agree more with my friends above — it's so very good to hear from you. Hope you're in good health and have a great New Year! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:37, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- Wow, I come back for a visit and find that many of my friends have leveled up into admins and functionaries! Congrats, guys! I'm not really back to participate; I'm still sadly too busy and don't have much interest in the drama around here, but it's good to see that you all are making the 'pedia a better place. Natureium (talk) 16:57, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2019).
- Bradv • Chetsford • Izno
- Floquenbeam • Lectonar
- DESiegel • Jake Wartenberg • Rjanag • Topbanana
- Callanecc • Fox • HJ Mitchell • LFaraone • There'sNoTime
- Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools.
- The advanced version of the edit review pages (recent changes, watchlist, and related changes) now includes two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces.
- A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2019 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
- A global request for comment is in progress regarding whether a user group should be created that could modify edit filters across all public Wikimedia wikis.
Square milk jug
You had previously expressed an interest in doing something with Square milk jug. I agree that something should be done with this poorly written stub. If still interested, there is an open discussion on the Talk page. Pkgx (talk) 16:35, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello Natureium,
- Backlog
Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
- Coordinator
A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
- This month's refresher course
Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
- Deletion tags
Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
- Paid editing
Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
- Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
- Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
- Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
- Not English
- A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
- Tools
Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.
Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.
Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.
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Administrators' newsletter – October 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2019).
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- Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which
applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories
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- Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which
- As previously noted, tighter password requirements for Administrators were put in place last year. Wikipedia should now alert you if your password is less than 10 characters long and thus too short.
- The 2019 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place October 4th to 10th.
- The arbitration case regarding Fram was closed. While there will be a local RfC
focus[ing] on how harassment and private complaints should be handled in the future
, there is currently a global community consultation on partial and temporary office actions in response to the incident. It will be open until October 30th.
- The Community Tech team has been working on a system for temporarily watching pages, and welcomes feedback.
New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello Natureium,
This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.
- Getting the queue to 0
There are now 804 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox.
Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.
- Coordinator
Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.
- This month's refresher course
Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.
- Tools
- It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
- It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
- Reviewer Feedback
Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.
- Second set of eyes
- Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
- Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
- Arbitration Committee
The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.
- Community Wish list
There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion.
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).
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- An RfC was closed with the consensus that the resysop criteria should be made stricter.
- The follow-up RfC to develop that change is now open at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/2019 Resysop Criteria (2).
- A related RfC is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.
- Eligible editors may now nominate themselves as candidates for the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections. The self-nomination period will close November 12, with voting running from November 19 through December 2.