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Bike Share Toronto

I have been hunting for rebranded stations and can't find any. I was at King/University and City Hall and many many other locations. Nothing seems to have been rebranded yet. Their website uses a photoshop version of the old image from Commons. It is not real. Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:52, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, hence why I said that in the caption. The TPA hasn't given any specifics as to when they will undertake rebranding, I think all I heard was 'in the coming weeks'. I don't think it makes my new caption false, it may be rebranded in the future, and all I'm saying is 'this is how it looked when the picture was taken'. I think the detail of how the image is on our commons and shopped is silly, and not appropriate for a casual reader. --Natural R_X 19:37, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I read "prior to its 2014 re-branding" as meaning that the bike station had been rebranded, and it has not, and may never be. I agree about the relevance of the image taken by them from Commons for the new website, and in that case I was pointing out that it tells a lie. There are many other pictures I could have chosen, and you are welcome to change that one. I will keep looking for upgrades throughout the summer. That is if the rebranding or summer ever come. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:55, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

So you won't mind a revert until an image with a rebranded station is found? --Natural R_X 19:59, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

I have some pictures taken this week. I will upload them and they would be current rather than that one from 2011. This would illustrate what we are trying to say about the lack of any rebranding yet. Secondarywaltz (talk)

Uploaded some pictures taken yesterday at King/University. Choice of square, wide or high. The square one shows all the workings and the others the location. Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:53, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

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UPE trains

Have you seen https://www.flickr.com/photos/jttjr/14887463163/ and https://www.flickr.com/photos/jttjr/14887463163/ from Flickr. Unfortunately they do not have the proper license. Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:16, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

I am aware, but its the fact that the trains exist, and someone can make a free copy. --Natural R_X 23:36, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh yes! I have all my cameras alert!!! 04:55, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Stefan. Yes, there are free alternatives available to be created now that this vehicle has been constructed. I actually marked it for deletion and removed it from the Union Pearson Express article for this reason. Thanks. --Natural R_X 23:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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The Big Move navbox

I noticed you are working on this in your sandbox. I think it is overkill. Most of these are already linked by existing navigation or category and should also link from existing articles on the subject. There is no reason that someone would browse through this massive navbox. Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:23, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

What do you think now? --Natural R_X 01:11, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

This is now an overloaded Metrolinx navbox. Many are red links, non links or unrelated. I really don't know what you are trying to achieve. Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:31, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

@Secondarywaltz: Do you see what I am trying to achieve now? The overall goal was to spur new articles or sections of existing articles for each rapid transit project under The Big Move, which I have been slowly doing. I have chopped out highways and heavy rail to not make it so massive, and to just specifically achieve that goal. --Natural R_X 21:07, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh yes! That is leaner and more focused. I've watched the progress. Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:16, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

@Secondarywaltz: So I guess the outstanding question before a full roll-out is whether it should stay standalone or be integrated into {{Metrolinx}}. Right now, it duplicates the current projects section of the latter. I also have felt a disdain for these 'waves' that are announced, and then permutations of those intentions going forward (i.e. Scarborough RT turning into Line 2 Bloor-Danforth extension, huge postponement of Sheppard East LRT, Hurontario-Main LRT, B-Line growing an A-Line stub). It's too confusing to an average joe IMO, and would be better handled in prose in the project's article or The Big Move. What do you think? --Natural R_X 21:54, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

What is the relevance to the Navbox? Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:41, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

@Secondarywaltz: They are projects planned, designed, and procured by Metrolinx. --Natural R_X 05:01, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I get that, but whatever you are trying to say is off the topic of the Navbox. Is that correct? Secondarywaltz (talk) 05:05, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

You lost me. --Natural R_X 05:24, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Bus Rapid Transit routes

Is the 407 Transitway the same as the new Highway 7 Rapidway? Some of it is along beside the 407. Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

No, these are separate but they are indeed parallel. The implementation of the former is questionable for that very reason. --Natural R_X 21:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

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GO Station links

You can link using the short form template {{GOs}}, which adds the suffix "GO Station" to the input name for linking. This might be convenient if you have a lot to do as in the List of GO Transit bus routes. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:25, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

‎Yonge-University Line Map

What's your opinion about this? I'm assuming that you're OK with it's inclusion, as you thanked me for the edit. Useddenim (talk) 22:04, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

The thanks was for eliminating a row. I'd have to agree that the phantom tunnel at Queen is unnecessary, I don't think it adds value to the route diagram for the whole line. Same with the extra arrow west of Sheppard-Yonge. The differentiation of stations with off-street platforms also bother me. But those are all my opinions. --Natural R_X 23:29, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree with you. Perhaps the Template talk page is where we should continue this. Secondarywaltz (talk) 13:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Done. --Natural R_X 14:24, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Lakeshore West succession templates

These need to be changed to reflect the opening of the new station and the fact that most trains actually terminate at Aldershot, not at either of the Hamilton stations. I will work on this when I get some time. But - let's not turn this into a timetable. 15:39, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Lakeshore West line connections

Niagara Region Transit terminates its routes at "Target Plaza" which is four and a half kilometres to the west of Niagara Falls railway station, and that is as close as they get. See http://www.niagararegion.ca/transit/pdf/all-nrt-routes.pdf for the map of all routes. I don't know what information you have, but I have reverted your reversion based on this. Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:00, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Wow, okay, I was going off of this map. The website currently links to the one you posted, so I guess it must have changed. --Natural R_X 14:11, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Agh! I wish they wouldn't do that. The maps should be clearly dated. So now there is a lot of other fixing to be done. Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:44, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

PS I will review the article as soon as I get an extended period of time. I understand that it is important to get the first one right and then change the rest to match. Thanks. Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:31, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

No worries, no rush. Appreciate your feedback :) --Natural R_X 16:33, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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Mississauga Transitway

Sorry that I abruptly reverted the Template:Mississauga Transitway. I thought you were trying to show Hwy 403, and I now realize it was supposed to be the LRT line. Either way it did not adequately illustrate what you wanted it to, and perhaps a little premature. Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:48, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

It's all good. It was difficult trying to decide how to illustrate it, maybe it is premature to have it on there. --Natural R_X 00:26, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

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Dundas Street BRT

Please link directly to what you mean by Schedule 2. Burlington or Burlington Connector is not mention anywhere in the reference you added. Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:25, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

@Secondarywaltz: I'll have to fix the link, I didn't realize it wasn't to the actual document. But Schedule 2 is on page 105 of the PDF (102 of 113; 94 as printed in the corner of the document). --Natural R_X 18:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Oakville's Transportation Master Plan also mentions this BRT, among others. This might be a good source of information for the kind of projects you are working on. It's always good to have another reference. Secondarywaltz (talk) 00:50, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Agreed, thanks! --Natural R_X 03:22, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Midtown

The Template:GO Transit Midtown is a very skilful creation, unfortunately overloaded with so much irrelevance that the focus is lost. But it is a beautiful work of art. Thanks. Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:03, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Secondarywaltz: Thanks, I know. It's tough because we don't have a solid, verifiable idea what this would look really look like. We don't know if the three segments will consist of two or three different services, where stations will be located, or where connections will be made. Maybe one day they will work towards building it and refinements can be made then. --Natural R_X 16:54, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Route diagram

You have developed very good skills in making route diagram templates. Having recently seen Template:Camden Town tube station, it reminded me of the levels at St. George and Bay subway stations and the connections to Museum and Spadina. I have always thought that the misleading trackage detail should be simplified in the Route 1 and 2 templates, since it does not reflect actual train service. A stand-alone very detailed diagram would illustrate this much better. I do not have the skills to create this, but I wondered if it was a challenge that you would like to tackle. Secondarywaltz (talk) 18:42, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

@Secondarywaltz: If it will permit simplification of Line 1 and 2 RDTs, then yes! --Natural R_X 19:12, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

My idea was that it would show how the lines really connect, rather than the current ambiguous diagrams which don't reflect the trackage. I just thought you might have fun with something like that, but it's not required. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:20, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Bloor–University–Spadina Junction

Is this what you were looking for? AlgaeGraphix (talk) 14:50, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Wow, that's super helpful, thanks @AlgaeGraphix:! --Natural R_X 18:24, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

That's pretty good. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:16, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

But it was already in Commons as File:Yonge–University–Spadina—Bloor–Danforth Junction.svg, uploaded in 2011. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:32, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

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Station naming convention

Those other questions you raised could be a problem. Some people are now going to respond to that and just make the conversation messy. I wish you hadn't done that. I will discuss them with you - just not there! Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:32, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

@Secondarywaltz: Yeah I'm sorry, that's why I wanted to discuss the naming convention in a hypothetical one-station article situation. Is there an appropriate page to discuss broad station article policy and redirect specific merger discussion to? --Natural R_X 22:28, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Why not discuss a station at it's own talk page?

Merging? How do you view Wikipedia? Since many people will be looking at a smaller screened device, it does not help to merge multiple things into mega articles. It might be better to chop some of them into smaller, easier to digest, bites. Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:13, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

GO/Via shared stations

Oshawa has seperately owned Metrolinx/CNR sets of tracks and different station buildings for both GO and Via, and could probably be more correctly named "Oshawa railway station". Guildwood and Aldershot are clearly GO Stations where Via trains stop without any seperate facilities. The entire railway corridor west of Union is owned by Metrolinx, and so is Oakville GO Station which just has an additional Via building on the property. That's how I see it. Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:13, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Downsview Park

Now that is a facility being constructed for both TTC subway and GO Train services. All other places where they meet, like Kennedy, there is a distinct division in the operation and property ownership - but not here. Perhaps a generic "Downsview Park station" title would be more appropriate naming. Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:13, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Toronto Union Station

This is already a large article. The station serves GO Train, Via Rail and Union Pearson Express. The subway station adjoins but is not part of that facility. Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:13, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Template: Senate of Canada

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Hamilton geography

On the templates for A-Line and B-Line you join Hamilton GO Centre and MacNab Transit Terminal as if they are the same location. Why have you done that, when they are a substantial distance apart without any connection? Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:20, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I would like to think I decreased any sense of them being in the same location, using HUB overlays instead of the extended interchange symbols. There is a higher order pedestrian walkway being implemented between them, if you want to adjust accordingly, be my guest. --Natural R_X 17:30, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Ah! Now I see what you are trying to show. The problem is that none of those things actually lineup, as properly represented in the linked map. I'll work on something. Secondarywaltz (talk) 18:20, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Would connecting from Hamilton GO Centre with a symbol like better represent that it is a pedestrian walkway? Secondarywaltz (talk) 18:48, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Probably. --Natural R_X 18:58, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

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Underpass Park?

So should Underpass Park be mentioned, linked to, somehow in The Bentway? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:02, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks. I saw it used on a London Underground line map, thought it looked nice and clean to use just STR with a mask vs. interrupted. --Natural R_X

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List of senators in the 42nd Parliament of Canada

While the new Senators you've added to List of senators in the 42nd Parliament of Canada have been announced they haven't been officially appointed yet. That happens when the Governor-General actually makes the appointments. While that's pro forma and I think it's fair to add the new Senators to the list and call them Senators the dates of appointment that will ultimately listed in the Parliament of Canada website will not be October 27 and 31st so I think it's best not to add the dates until we actually know what they are. (The previous batch of appointments by Trudeau were announced on one day but the actual appointments ended up being spread out for a few weeks for various reasons such as one appointee having to actually buy property in the province he was appointed to represent in order to meet the criteria set out in the constitution). McArthur Parkette (talk) 19:42, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Fair point, but I think it is a survivable inaccuracy until the senate website is updated with appointment dates. I'll keep an eye on it. --Natural R_X 15:03, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Calgary green line route diagram

Regarding Template:Calgary_Green_Line, transfers to the new line will happen at the 7 Avenue station, which will be under 2nd St SW (between the existing red/blue line surface stations at 1 St SW and 3 St SW). Presumably there will be new elevators or stairs down to the green line built at these stations.

There will be no shared station at Centre St. The green line Centre St station will either be under 10 Ave or 12 Ave S, and the green line tracks will either pass over the red line north of Victoria Park station at 10 Ave S, or under the red line north of Victoria Park station at 12 Ave S (See http://engage.calgary.ca/greenline/beltline).

I would edit the diagram myself, but my wikipedia skills fall short! Nothanks23 (talk) 07:28, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for raising this. There were a couple errors in how I laid it out, I owe it to not being familiar with Calgary or its transit system, I was just being bold in making a route diagram. To your credit, I have made the revision, but it wasn't easy! Very friggin complicated. Let me know if there are still any corrections to be made. --Natural R_X 14:19, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

“Very friggin’ complicated”: Have you tried using the {{Routemap}} template? Besides all the ! and ~, I find it easier to use than {{BS-map}} ’cause there’s no need to count columns. Useddenim (talk) 22:05, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Nah, I know it exists and have worked with it; see Metrolinx mobility hubs. When I say 'it's complicated,' I mean that it takes a while to look at the real world, and then transpose that into a route map; sort out what symbols are available and how they should be arranged. The route map template doesn't change that, you still have to input the same symbol code. Cheers. --Natural R_X 03:13, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Looks great. Thank you. I see now that you were showing Centre St as a connection to the railway station downtown. Maybe that will come to pass if the green line goes under 10th, but I haven't seen any official plans. Like most Calgarians I often forget we still have a station downtown :).

BTW I edited the template to add Stoney Trail. -- Nothanks23 (talk) 19:31, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

'Trails,' for cars. You Calgarians are silly.

But yeah, I had originally marked that station because I believe the Rocky Mountaineer would start from there. It appears from looking at the website, though, that it is no longer the case. --Natural R_X 20:30, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

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