User talk:Nathalieknudsen

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Jimi Somewhere

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Jimi Somewhere, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jimi Somewhere (November 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Legacypac was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Legacypac (talk) 04:36, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Jimi Somewhere

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Draft:Jimi Somewhere, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Legacypac (talk) 16:30, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Page deletion

I've given this a temporary stay of deletion, if you wish to think of it in those terms. Essentially, here's why it was nominated for deletion and the article was declined at AfC:

The first issue is that the sourcing you have here doesn't establish notability. You have primary sources, like the performer's social media pages or pages created by organizations or people with whom he's worked with or otherwise affiliated. For example, Jimi Somewhere performed at Ekkofestival, so the festival website would be seen as a primary source. You need to show where he's received coverage in independent and reliable sources, to show where he passes WP:MUSICBIO. Make sure that you're careful not to rely on interviews too much as far establishing notability goes, as they're seen as primary sources by many Wikipedians. Newspaper articles about Jimi and reviews of his work would be good to look for.

When writing, make sure that you're not writing in a style that is too casual or informal. This is likely what made the writing seem promotional, as this can resemble a form of marketing speak - even if this wasn't intended. The best way that I can describe this marketing style is that it is meant to appeal to the average person via its casual, informal style - kind of a "just us folks" type of feeling. What this means as far as Wikipedia is concerns is that you need to use a more formal writing approach. I've edited the draft to help with this. I also removed some content that seemed a little problematic, but more on that in the next point:

When sourcing something, make sure that you link to the specific source and not a general page. This is especially important for any claims that are major and/or personal, such as when someone was born, where they live, or where they came from. The reason for this is that it poses an issue of accuracy, as it makes it difficult for the reader to verify the claims. Also, when including anything that could be seen as a personal opinion, make sure that you attribute it. For example, the statement about how his music could be described came across as a personal opinion. If this was him making this claim then it should be attributed to him, such as "Jimi Somewhere describes his work as...".

I've created a discography section for the releases - this is often a little easier to maintain than trying to write out all of a musician's work in prose format.

I hope that this helps you - I've added some sourcing to the article that should be useful and as an example of what you should be looking for. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 20:33, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jimi Somewhere (December 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by CNMall41 were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I used Google Translate for the majority of the sources. Assuming that the publications are reliable, I looked at the type of references and what they said. Unfortunately, they are not in-depth about the subject. Some are interviews and others are mentions. I cannot locate any of the music on charts so based on what is presented, I do not feel the subject meets notability guidelines.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Jimi Somewhere and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Jimi Somewhere, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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CNMall41 (talk) 04:53, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jimi Somewhere (December 24)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by CNMall41 was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Same issues apply as before. iTunes and Medium are not reliable sources so adding them made it worse.

CNMall41 (talk) 18:18, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How to write articles that don't get rejected or deleted

If you're going to write an article about anyone or anything that is not you or something you are connected to, here are the steps you should follow:

1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources.

2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find. Google Books is a good resource for this. Also, while search engine resutls are tnot sources, they are where you can find sources. Just remember that they need to be professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources.

3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.

4) Summarize those sources left after step 3, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer. Make sure this summary is just bare statement of facts, phrased in a way that even someone who hates the subject can agree with.

5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.

6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.

7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.

8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 3 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).

Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion.

If you are writing about yourself, or someone or something you are connected with (such as a friend, family member, or your business), the following steps are different:

1) If the subject really was notable, you wouldn't need to write the article. Remember that articles are owned by the Wikipedia community as a whole, not the article subject or the article author. If you do not want other people to write about you, then starting an article about yourself is a bad idea.

8a) If the article is accepted, never edit it again. Instead, make edit requests on the article's talk page.

8b) If the article is rejected, there will be a reason given. Read it carefully and closely. If there are links in the reason, open them and read those pages.

Ian.thomson (talk) 18:57, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Jimi Somewhere

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 07:02, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]