User talk:Natalie EPT

March 2022

Hello Natalie EPT. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Natalie EPT. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Natalie EPT|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good Afternoon,

Apologies if I have done anything wrong! This is my first time editing on Wikipedia. I am a volunteer for an ectopic pregnancy charity and was seeking to ensure key information was included on the topic - and also advise people that support is available. I am happy to do what is necessary - please just advise - as I have already started the articles for creation process - I did tick the box to advise that I was close to the organisation I wished to write about - but then when I tried to change the title as it asked it wouldn't let me?

All help gratefully received. Many thanks. Natalie EPT (talk) 15:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please can you advise if I have now done the disclosure correctly and can continue with my edits?? Natalie EPT (talk) 10:47, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You should not continue to edit about your organization, but you may freely make other edits. When the edit concerns your organization, you may make suggestions on the associated article talk page for consideration by other editors. See {{requestedit}} for the procedure to draw attention to your talk page requests. Also, please have a look at WP:MEDRS - medical information on Wikipedia has special sourcing requirements, and 'patient info' style publications don't really meet them. - MrOllie (talk) 11:49, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - there is currently no information on wikipedia about the organisation I volunteer for. The edits I have been making are in relation to the subject matter the charity covers, not the organisation itself. Natalie EPT (talk) 13:19, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also with reference to the medical information I linked to it wasn't a patient info publication is was a revered medical institution - The National Perinatal Epidemiology Unit in Oxford, England. Natalie EPT (talk) 15:06, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A distinction without a difference - it wasn't the sort of peer reviewed article or major medical organization statement (that would be something like the World Health Organization) we can use. Please read WP:MEDRS thoroughly. - MrOllie (talk) 15:23, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Ectopic Pregnancy Trust (April 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by 331dot were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This just tells about the existence of the organization and its activities. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. "Significant coverage" is that which goes beyond just telling what the organization does and involves analysis and/or discussion of the importance of the organization as others see it(not as the organization sees itself). Please read Your First Article.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:The Ectopic Pregnancy Trust and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:The Ectopic Pregnancy Trust, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

331dot (talk) 10:11, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Natalie EPT! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! 331dot (talk) 10:11, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:The Ectopic Pregnancy Trust

Hello, Natalie EPT. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:The Ectopic Pregnancy Trust, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 04:03, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:The Ectopic Pregnancy Trust

Hello, Natalie EPT. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "The Ectopic Pregnancy Trust".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]