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Lua detection of disabled JavaScript

こんにちは. Can you think of any way to sniff out if a Wikipedia user has JS disabled from a module? Obviously it would be nice to just ask if mw.user.hasJSDisabled() then but in lieu of that, is there any property we can read that would indicate the state of play? I wondered about reading the <html> classes, but the title stuff doesn't seem to reach into the HTML, only the wikitext content.Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 19:06, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

@Fred Gandt: No, nothing like this is possible as far as I'm aware. The increase in module complication resulting from this sort of thing being possible also sounds like something to be avoided. The usual way this is handled is through <noscript>...</noscript> tags, of course, but these tags are unavailable to wikitext by design. What are you looking to use this information for? I have a feeling that there may be an easier way to do whatever it is you're trying to do, but I'd need to hear the specifics first. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:43, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi hi. For Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Request for Comment: Implementation of interactive chess boards, at line 229 of Module:User:Fred Gandt/sandbox/chessDemo I add a fallback .gif if it exists and is valid, but since the fallback is only for users with JS disabled, I consider it a shame to force JS users to also upload the fallback. The fallback would be (relatively - some limited reuse is probable) unique to each transclusion, and needs to be there without JS intervention, so obviously JS can't add the fallback. Even dynamic CSS via phab:T483 would hand out the image request to JS users. So, ideally, we'd detect JS (or not) and only fallback when necessary. Personally, I'd prefer CSS animation via phab:T483 to be the fallback, but that'd never fly due to it failing outright on older browsers (right?). Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 14:48, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Derp: Ah yes! <noscript> - what a wonderful new technology! Introduced with HTML6 right? Thank you for pulling my head from my ass.Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 15:16, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
@Fred Gandt: By the way, I think that you can add fallback behaviours for people without JavaScript enabled if you implement this as a MediaWiki extension. I don't have enough experience with extension programming yet to know exactly how is done, though. (Also, to get your extension activated on Wikipedia you need community consensus, and you need it to pass security and performance review.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:43, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Actually, I wondered a little about if this might be better done as an extension, but like you have little experience with them (I've fiddled with GeSHi), so stuck with what I know. However, since I also know PHP and have decided that the best way to fallback is to a programmatically generated .gif, going down the extension route would save building a bot to chase up the demos (it could all be done in the back end). I guess that means learning how to build an extension! \o/ All that said, the RfC is so far as dead as a dodo, not even a peep from those most vocal before, so maybe it'll amount to nothing anyway. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 19:06, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Module Protection banner

Hi Mr. Stradivarius, I've made changes to Module:Protection banner/sandbox and Module:Protection banner/config/sandbox in preparation for the result of WP:ECP2016. It adds recognition of the new prot level as far as I can tell from testing, and allows {{Pp-30-500}} to invoke the module. The template sandbox is already looking good. Given the way the RfC is going, I believe we need two ECP templates, one for ArbCom enforcement, and one for generic ECP-level protection. The 2 categories that the current template uses (1 and 2) would probably be different (and possibly even renamed) pending RfC results. I'm planning on making a new template "Pp-ecp" to invoke the module, that's used for "general-purpose socks/disputes" (pending RfC result).

The sandboxes are not ready for syncing yet, but just wanted to ping to let you know. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 06:30, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

@Andy M. Wang: Sounds good to me. I'd be tempted to change the name of the template, though - if anyone decides to change the number of days or edits necessary to pass the threshold, then the name "30-500" might become confusing. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:38, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

License tagging for File:Testing protection level reset on delete and restore.png

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Tables in Lua

I saw a while ago that you had a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Lua/Archive 2#Wikitext tables? - was there ever a fix to this? I'm having the same issue at Module talk:Series overview/testcases#/split and /special with module, where the series overview is created with the module, and then the /split and /special rows are added through the currently-existing sub-templates. (This is only a temporary measure, so that the split seasons and specials still appear when the module is implemented, so they don't disappear until they're updated to become part of the main module). Thanks. Alex|The|Whovian? 03:37, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

@AlexTheWhovian: As a workaround, you could replace the <table>...</table> tags with {| and |}. You might do that by going from this:
local root = mw.html.new('table')
root:tag('tr'):tag('td'):wikitext('some text')
root:tag('tr'):tag('td'):wikitext('some more text')
return tostring(root)
to this:
local root = mw.html.new()
root:tag('tr'):tag('td'):wikitext('some text')
root:tag('tr'):tag('td'):wikitext('some more text')
return '{|\n' .. tostring(root) .. '\n|}'
That should fool the wikitable markup into working inside the module's output. It's ugly, but it's not so bad if it's only a temporary fix. Alternatively, you could change the existing subtemplates to use HTML table markup. That should work with the existing template and with the new module without the hack I outlined, so is perhaps the better solution. (It might take more testing than the hacky solution, though.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:50, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
My thanks. The replacements with {| and |} worked. It'll be removed within the week, though, once it's implemented. Alex|The|Whovian? 06:15, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Protection reduction request for Template:Portal-inline

Hi, I'd like to request protection on Template:Portal-inline reduced from fully protected to template-editor protected. The 2012-13 (pre template editor rights) log entries mentioned transclusion count only, and transclusion count is 80k today. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 21:36, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

@Matt Fitzpatrick: Sure, no problem - it's now done. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:52, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Dialog windows

Hi! Could I ask for some JS help? Could you create script, that does the following: after clicking the link in toolbar (probably in the "Tools" section in left) dialog window opens. And place some "Foo" in header and "bar" in text part, so I can see, what is what. And some "OK" button, that closes the dialog window. That's all. I probably will be able to move along myself. The window doesn't have to be a fancy one. Currently I just need some window opened :) Can't use alert window, because I can't place working <a>'s there. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 08:40, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

@Edgars2007: Sure, I made you a script at User:Edgars2007/OOjs-UI example.js. You can see more about how OOjs UI message windows work at mw:OOjs UI/Windows/Message Dialogs. It might also be a good idea to read all of mw:OOjs UI as well. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:36, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, looks very nice :) Will probably have some few questions in next days, if everything will go smoothly with time - have to create some toolset for Rio Olympics. Unrelated question. What is the best way (performace etc.) in JS, to find out, does the page exist? I will pass page title in some kind of inputbox and will need to know, does it exist. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 11:26, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
@Edgars2007: You have to query the API to find out if a page exists. If you think about it, a page could always be deleted in between the time you load a page and the time you call some JavaScript function on that page, so you can't do it reliably just from data you have from when the page loaded. For using the API from JavaScript, you'll want to see the mw.Api docs. And for finding out what the API can do, I find the best way is using Special:ApiSandbox. There's a lot of stuff in there that you can use. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:16, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Time-gap between page load and calling JavaScript won't be a problem in my case, but thanks for this reminder. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 13:15, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Request

Sorry to bother you, but may you come see the request I have for you at the talk page at Template talk:Infobox record label? Thank You. troublednbored (talk) 22:19, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

@Smarty9108: I don't see the request there - am I missing something? If you're referring to the idea about the "fate" and "successor" labels, then I don't really mind either way. I see that STATicVapor has expressed some mild resistance to the idea of a "fate" label, though. You will need to find a consensus for whatever changes you would like to be made in order for them to be influenced. Maybe try advertising the discussion at some of the music-related WikiProjects? Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:58, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Three years ago ...
silent way
... you were recipient
no. 563 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda! Hope you are doing well. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:59, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Javanese calendar

Dear Mr. Stradivarius, please add the Javanese calendar to Template:Year in other calendars. I have also included code below for this purpose. It might still have some error, however (I am very pleased if you are willing to repair and added it to the template). 

|-
 | [[Javanese calendar]]
 | {{#ifeq: {{#expr:({{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}-67) > 0}} | 1 | {{#expr:{{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}-67 }}–{{#expr:{{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}-66 }} | {{#expr:(-1)*({{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}-66)}} – {{#expr:(-1)*({{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}-67)}}}}

Thanks! -Lyndonbaines (talk) 13:13, 3 August 2016 (UTC)'

@Lyndonbaines: You should probably propose this at Template talk:Year in other calendars rather than here, as that's the page that interest parties are more likely to be watching. I see that you've already made a Lua version of this, which is a good start. I'm not sure where you're getting your islamicMult and islamicSub variables from, though - how are you deriving those numbers? Maybe you could do the arithmetic to derive those numbers in the module itself, and/or add a comment explaining them? As for updating the module, feel free to do it yourself - it should only be semi-protected. It's usually a good idea to ask on the talk page before major updates like this, though. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:52, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
Since Javanese calendar using same measurement system as in Islamic calendar (Javanese calendar is derived from Islamic calendar), altough still retain Saka calendar year that counted from 78 CE, I've just copied the code from Islamic calendar. I made this decision rather than write the code from beginning because I consider that there's no significant difference between Javanese and Islamic calendar except in the year calculation method as I said earlier. I'm not sure if I have made a wrong calculation, because I just tested the number that I got from some Gregorian-Javanese calendar converter, and also made some test with random number using the code that I've been copied from Islamic calendar. Maybe you can read this article if you want knows more, and I would to ask apologize to you if I had break the rules and for my bad English, too. (I would propose this request on template discussion) Sincerely -Lyndonbaines (talk) 13:29, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

ConfirmRollback

Hello, I tried using your script User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/ConfirmRollback but it doesn't seem to do anything for me. It doesn't ask for confirmation and just ends up going through with one click. Did I do something wrong with the installation? Anarchyte (work | talk) 10:50, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

@Anarchyte: Hi there. :) I've just tested it on my watchlist, and the confirmation dialog worked correctly for me. What page were you on when you clicked the rollback link, and what browser were you using? The script's behaviour changes based on these two things (although the behaviour can be customised), so that might be your problem. And if it's a bug, knowing this will help me to track it down. I also had a look at your .js files, and it doesn't look like you've done anything wrong with the config. If you're feeling technical, it would also help if you could open your browser console and see if there are any error messages when you load the page or try to use the script. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:21, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
I tested it using Firefox on Wikipedia:Sandbox. Anarchyte (work | talk) 11:51, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
@Anarchyte: Do you mean from the History tab? The script is set to allow rollback by default from history pages, so that's why the rollback went through. Take a look at the defaults for different pages and devices and at the instructions for how to change them. Hopefully that should help you to get a configuration that you're happier with. If not, let me know and I can help you to set it up. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:13, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Also, if you want to use the script on non-watchlist pages, then you should probably remove the .mw-special-Watchlist selector from the rule you have set up in User:Anarchyte/common.css. Otherwise, every time you load a non-watchlist page, until the JavaScript loads the rollback links will be active even if you used a different setting for the script. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:21, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I got it fixed. Anarchyte (work | talk) 02:40, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Protection banner config

Hi Mr. Stradivarius, I'm wondering if Module:Protection banner/config/sandbox is in a state that's ready to be synced live. It adds Pp-30-500 for extended confirmed protection. {{Pp-30-500/sandbox}} is behaving correctly when placed on pages, but I'm wondering if the granularity in the protectionCategories table suffices, and if possibly there was anything I missed. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 18:06, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

@Andy M. Wang: Sorry for the very late reply... That config looks fine to me. You might consider moving some of the boilerplate text to protectionBlurbs or explanationBlurbs so that pages protected with extended confirmed protection can use it without having to specify "ecp" as a reason. For example, try playing around with {{pp/sandbox}} vs. {{pp/sandbox|ecp}} on a page protected with extended confirmed protection. But that's a minor point, and won't affect the way most people will use the templates. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:44, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
No problem, and thanks again for the suggestion and for looking into this. I've moved (and updated per RfC result) the ecp blurbs in the sandbox. May the change be synced to Module:Protection banner/config at this point? I checked {{pp/sandbox}} vs. {{pp/sandbox|ecp}} at Israel in preview and it looks good. (Not requesting a sync of {{Pp-30-500}} at this time, I'd like to do that personally afterwards) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 17:02, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
@Andy M. Wang: Yep, looks good - go for it. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:32, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi sorry to bother you again, I can't ... :) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 06:35, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Aha, you already left an edit request. I missed that, sorry. :) Now done. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:48, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Lua

I heard you are the Lua Master. Can you convert these templates to Lua - {{Analog Clock}} {{Analog Clock 2}} {{Analog Clock 4}} They contain more than 2 page long codes that I designed with others help! Can you convert them please. Thanks VarunFEB2003 I am Offline 11:39, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for the compliment! Unfortunately, I don't really think it would be worth converting these clock templates, though, as they are hardly used - they only have three transclusions each. If you want some tips on how to convert them yourself, though, I'll be glad to point you in the right direction. You can also find good help with Lua modules at Wikipedia talk:Lua. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:24, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Another thought - if it's a clock displaying on your userpage or something similar that you are looking for, you might try turning it into a JavaScript user script. There are bound to be lots of JavaScript clocks that move in real time already available on the internet, and if they use jQuery they should be easy to integrate with MediaWiki. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:26, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
I know about the scripts but I wanted a template that's visible to evryone! And I don't know Lua I am completely technically illetrate. Thanks for your help, I'll take your advice. VarunFEB2003 I am Offline 12:29, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Bukharian Jews

Hello Mr. Strad! I'am contacting you in regards of the article "Bukharian Jews" [[1]] on the Wikipedia. I'am sorry in advance if I missed something or contacted you not related to the article. May be you can help me to write an article or guide me to the correct person to add some information to the article. I have noticed that on the article "Bukharian Jews"under section "Notable Bukharian Jews"missing a name. Wanted to ask you if you can add, a person Yakov Bachayev under "Notable Bukharian Jews". Yakov Bachayev is a former President of Bukharian Jewish Synagogue and the Community in Denver, Colorado. He is a Jewish activist that carried a mission to build Bukharian Jewish Synagogue in Denver, Colorado. Up until today he helps with progress, development and guidance of the Bukharian Jewish Synagogue and the Community. I can provide you some proof about him being a president of the Bukharian Synagogue in Colorado and job that he did. Also the whole history of the Bukharian Jews coming to Colorado in general. Just let me know what information do you need to complete the section. Thanks in advance Misha. (Mishadoktor (talk) 09:33, 13 September 2016 (UTC))

@Mishadoktor: Hi there! First, I should warn you that "notable" on Wikipedia usually means something slightly different than it does elsewhere. In most places it is just about synonymous with "famous", but on Wikipedia, "notable" means "is eligible for a Wikipedia article". For Yakov Bachayev to be eligible to have his own article, and therefore eligible to be included in the list of people on Bukharian Jews, he needs to fulfil these criteria. Let me know if you have any questions about them. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:59, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection

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Nigeria Wiki Loves Women template

Hi, I seem to have got my wires crossed on what was wanted. Can you revert what ever you did and see exactly what Anthere wants, thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:13, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: I only ever edited the template sandbox, so there isn't anything to revert. Is there a discussion somewhere about what the template needs to do? That would help me to get started. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:54, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for you help. Anthere might explain, there might be nothing to edit after all, I just thought she wanted a new assessment on the banner that's all!♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:49, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Yeah; no problem Stradivarius.
I have sort of given up trying to get Shola to understand that tagging articles {{WikiProject Nigeria|WLWNG=yes}} is NOT the same thing than tagging them {{WikiProject Wiki Loves Women}}. I guess I will do the tagging myself from time to time or find someone to help do it. Or stop bothering entirely. I am not sure. I am in a "let it go" mood this morning ;) Anthere (talk)

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Article on Arthur Cyrus Warner

Hello,

I'm writing to see if there is a way to recover and/or replace the article that was deleted about Arthur Cyrus Warner. Could you please elaborate on the reason that it was deleted? What types of edits or additional information would we necessary to have the article reposted?

Thank you, WAP39 — Preceding unsigned comment added by WAP39 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

@WAP39: I deleted the Arthur Cyrus Warner article because it was a repost of copyrighted material. Copyright violations are not allowed in any way on Wikipedia, so I can't restore it for you. (See Wikipedia:Copyright for more details on Wikipedia's copyright policies.) You can create a new article about Warner, however, as long as the text doesn't violate copyright, and as long as the article passes Wikipedia's content policies. For a brief overview of what is required to make a new Wikipedia article without it being deleted, see this help page. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:35, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Script

Hi!

I was thinking... Would it be possible to create a script, that would automatically apply changes to article and then optionally open diff window? By automatically I mean this - I have an URL, let's say, something like https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=<page title>&<script call>&<regex to replace>&<replacement string>. I open it and the magic happens. I can think of some reasons why such script would be a bad idea, but if used with great care and carefully, then... And it wouldn't save the page itself, so it probably would not violate too much policies :D No, the find->replace would be different (one-time) in most cases (that would be generated off-wiki), that's why using current f->r scripts would be so effecient. I would simply like to speed up things a little bit. Thoughts? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 09:45, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

@Edgars2007: Sure, that's possible, although you'd have to make sure that its use complied with the bot policy. It sounds like it might be easier to use something like WP:AWB though? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:39, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Protection banner on bhwiki

Hi Sir, I am from bh.wikipedia and I have protected some pages e.g. this one but {{pp-protected}} should give only padlock on the upper right corner while on our wiki it shows full banner. Would you like to guide me regarding this. I am unable to understand why this is happening.--SM7--talk-- 20:27, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Chime in on this RfC?

Hi. Would you be willing to weigh in on this RfC regarding Metacritic should be both added in the prose section and the album ratings template at the same time. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 23:20, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't really mind one way or the other. Whatever others decide would be fine by me. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:23, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Request to review Syntactic Structures

Hello, I have been working on the article on and off for a long time now. I would be happy if you took a look and gave feedback. Thanks in advance. Zaheen (talk) 17:28, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

@Zaheen: That is an impressive achievement! At a glance it looks like you've done everything right, but actually Chomsky isn't my area - I'm better informed about things involving language education and second language acquisition. Plus, I'm not really doing much content reviewing these days. Most of my time now is spent writing Lua modules. How about asking the people at WikiProject Linguistics if they can help? I know there are people there who know a lot more about Chomsky and transformational generative grammar than me. Or if you don't have any luck there, how about nominating it for good article status? You'll need to make sure it fulfils the guidelines, e.g. every fact would need to have a citation, but it shouldn't take too much work to get it there. Let me know if you need any more pointers. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:30, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello again. I have scrutinized the article and added more inline references (more than 100 now in total) and have increased the number of cited works (64 in total). I have also weeded out weasel/peacock/vague terms as much as I could. Could you take another look? I would be really grateful if you gave some feedback on any issues that do not concern the subject matter, i.e., quality of prose, tone, organization, etc. Thanks again. Zaheen (talk) 21:28, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
Thank you for your assistance repairing the rowiki CS module. — xaosflux Talk 02:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
No worries! Glad I could help. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Since you seem to know your way around Lua, might you have a clue for us at this discussion? Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:50, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

SIR THIYYA IS NOT Ezhava

thiyya and Ezhava are two different castes.

pls make thiyya page protected from semi protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adhithya Kiran Chekavar (talk • contribs) 13:50, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)@Adhithya Kiran Chekavar: You can request page protection here. - Mlpearc (open channel) 13:58, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins

Hello,

Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

New deal for page patrollers

Hi Mr. Stradivarius,

In order to better control the quality of new pages, keep out the spam, and welcome the genuine newbies, the current system we introduced in 2011 is being updated and improved. The documentation and tutorials have also been revised and given a facelift. Most importantly a new user group New Page Reviewer has been created.

Under the new rule, you may find that you are temporarily unable to mark new pages as reviewed. However, this is nothing to worry about - most current experienced patrollers are being accorded the the new right without the need to apply, and if you have significant previous experience of patrolling new pages, we strongly encourage you to apply for the new right as soon as possible - we need all the help we can get, and we are now providing a dynamic, supportive environment for your work.

Find out more about this exiting new user right now at New Page Reviewers and be sure to read the new tutorial before applying. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:29, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Passive list viewing

I was wondering if I could pick your brain some more. I have asked some more naive questions over at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#How to replace text?. The Transhumanist 18:37, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Page protection request

Strad, could you take a look at Fascism in North America and its history and talk page. I think we could use some semi-protection there for a couple of weeks until the angst from the recent US presidential election dies down. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 23:29, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 22:16, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
@TransporterMan: No worries. :) I see there hasn't been any activity there since I protected it and posted on the talk page, so fingers crossed that this is a good sign. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:42, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers

Hi Mr. Stradivarius.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Lua/Modules listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:Lua/Modules. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:Lua/Modules redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pppery (talk • contribs) 04:00, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

SpamUserPage

Hello there. The link in my tool box for User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/SpamUserPage seems to have vanished. Please advise. Many thanks. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:35, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Convenience link: My commons.js

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:36, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: This should be fixed now. The API I was using for the menus had changed, and I hadn't updated the code, so when they removed the old version, it broke. Sorry for the inconvenience! — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:44, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Thank you ever so much. It was no inconvenience. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:34, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Group-sysop.js

Hello Mr. Stradivarius, would you check your recent edits to this page; it is now appearing in Category:Pages using invalid self-closed HTML tags - possibly related to sections such as <table/> and <tr/>. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 17:53, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: I wrapped the whole script in <nowiki>...</nowiki> tags, which has fixed the problem. (And I did the same for MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt-classic.js, which was also in the category.) My initial thought was to fix this by changing the content model of the page, but judging from Special:ChangeContentModel/MediaWiki:Group-sysop.js there doesn't seem to be a JavaScript option. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:28, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, the page is already in the js content model (action=info, but I think mediawiki still flags it anyway. — xaosflux Talk 02:11, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Yuan dynasty

This is a ridiculous argument, as the medieval Chinese were no more able or willing than Europeans to show warriors from the distant past in the correct historical dress. See the thousands of contemporary European miniatures with Caesar/Alexander in "modern" armour. Nonetheless, the painting is apparently early Ming & clearly rather fanciful. Johnbod (talk) 17:32, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

@Johnbod: Hi there. I think calling it a "ridiculous" argument is a bit over the top - it was reasonable to the person who made it, and it sounded reasonable to me, too. But I have no doubt you're right - I didn't check the age of the painting, and having people in the wrong historical dress sounds like something that goes on a lot in paintings. I'll let the person who emailed it in know what you said. Also, how about putting a footnote about the age of the painting in the article? It might save future confusion. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:27, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Well I haven't replaced the pic, so there's no point. Why did he use OTRS for this? Johnbod (talk) 03:22, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
@Johnbod: After I wrote my reply above I saw that you hadn't added the image back yet, so I didn't send another message in the end. (I don't have any issues with you adding it back, btw.) As for why they were using OTRS, there could be any number of reasons - they didn't know they could edit Wikipedia, they got put off by the wikitext syntax, they thought that they needed someone's permission to change the article, etc., etc. This kind of "fix the article please" email happens often enough that there are several templates in the OTRS system that the volunteers use to deal with them. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 03:33, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

saw your name

at https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Translators_available#Japanese-to-English , do you by chance take requests?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:05, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

@Kintetsubuffalo: Perhaps, if it's interesting. :) What would you like translated? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:32, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Also, a lot of the sourcing on the Japanese Wikipedia is pretty poor, so make sure whatever article you want me to translate looks like it has good sourcing. Inline citations are still the exception over there, as far as I can tell. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:34, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Ah, that would be difficult for me to tell if sourcing is good or not, I can only read about 400 easy kanji.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:58, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
@Kintetsubuffalo: If it looks like it has inline citations, then that's probably good enough. I'll be able to check the sources properly after that. If it's not sourced at all, though, then I know without looking at it that it won't be good enough to translate. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:51, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Sorry for getting back with you so late, my mind has been elsewhere.
Thanks for your patience with me!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:37, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Anything you can do with these?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:59, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
I had a look, and some of them look good enough to be translated; in some of the others, the sourcing looks too sparse. Maybe when I have a spare few hours. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 03:06, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Quick question-can you tell me a quickie claim-to-fame for these guys?
Thanks again!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:16, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Some Lua help?

Hi, Strad. Need some Lua help, got a bit stuck. I'm tweaking the code at Module:Series overview/sandbox, and creating the necessary link in the module if one isn't passed through the template (starts at line 288). See the first two cases at Module talk:Series overview/testcases; the first has the link created within the module, the second has |link1=... passed to it through the template. Both strings, but the first one doesn't create a link. Any ideas? Thanks! Alex|The|Whovian? 04:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

AlexTheWhovian: It's because of the <includeonly> stuff in the module (twice). Delete it. Johnuniq (talk) 04:44, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
@AlexTheWhovian: What Johnuniq said. Tags like <includeonly>...</includeonly> are not preprocessed while they are inside Lua, so they are interpreted as literal characters. Arrow Angle brackets are not allowed in MediaWiki page titles, and when they are detected inside a wikilink the parser simply outputs all of the link as a string, square brackets included. For example: [[Foo<>bar]]. You can preprocess <includeonly>...</includeonly> tags inside Lua by using frame:preprocess, but I would advise against it. It's fiddly, and you can usually work around it by using <includeonly>...</includeonly> tags on the template page where #invoke is used - if they are necessary at all. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:46, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Strad for the helpful reply. Alex|The|Whovian? 10:31, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
No probs. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:35, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

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Issue with the Draftify script?

There's an issue with the Draftify script here when I tried to enter the title. Isn't a bug? KGirlTrucker81 huh? what I've been doing 14:42, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it looks like the API changed. I'll take a look at it now. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
Hmm, not sure why this one is happening. It seems that the text in the title field is working fine, but the display is blank when it wasn't before. I don't spot any changes in the docs that indicate why this behaviour changed. Will come back to this later. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:46, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, no problem. :) KGirlTrucker81 huh? what I've been doing 12:02, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
@KGirlTrucker81: It should look better now. I had to remove the label saying "Draft:" before the title input box, as that feature seems to have broken in the library that the gadget uses to make the dialog box, but I figure that's a lot better than not being able to see anything in the box at all. Is it working for you now? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:59, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Yes, all working :) KGirlTrucker81 huh? what I've been doing 12:48, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection policy RfC

You are receiving this notification because you participated in a past RfC related to the use of extended confirmed protection levels. There is currently a discussion ongoing about two specific use cases of extended confirmed protection. You are invited to participate. ~ Rob13Talk (sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:31, 22 December 2016 (UTC))

It's a beautiful time of the year!


Christmas tree worms live under the sea...they hide in their shells when they see me,
So with camera in hand I captured a few, and decorated them to share with you.
Atsme📞📧 15:43, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Atsme - Merry Christmas! — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:01, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Veterans Moving Help

I wish to see the Veterans Moving Help page stick on Wikipedia but am unsure what needs to be done to ensure its survival. As of right now, it appears it is scheduled for deletion. Do you have any suggestions?

Mikejonsey (talk) 01:15, 28 December 2016 (UTC)Mikejonsey

@Mikejonsey: Sure - you need to find sources from reputable outlets that cover the organisation. If those exist, then the article can be kept. Have a look at this guide to see the kind of thing that we are looking for. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 03:14, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Mr. Stradivarius!

Happy New Year!

Mr. Stradivarius,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Codename Lisa (talk) 07:05, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Happy New Year CL! — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:07, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Dev summit

You going to dev summit this year? — MusikAnimal talk 22:17, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: No - my travel scholarship didn't go through. I might join in remotely if I have the time, though. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:24, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Bummer. Was looking forward to meeting you! Maybe at Wikimania? — MusikAnimal talk 23:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Possibly. We'll see. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:40, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Leukemia Research Fdtn

Hello Mr. Stradivarius, No trout slap just hope for further direction. Can't include page in brackets because you apparently deleted the page.

I submitted a draft page for the Leukemia Research Foundation last last week which you deleted with a G11 code. I thought I was very careful to avoid blatant advertising and promotion and closely followed similar page formats successfully used by the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society and (australian) Leukeamia Foundation wikipedia pages.

Granted I am the LRF's executive director. I realize what a great resource Wikipedia is and want to be sure we are recognized. We believe it to be notable and certainly understand the need for neutrality. Your thoughts on how I can edit? Again, it looks like it was just deleted.

Thanks. Kevin Radelet Kradelet (talk) 16:47, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello Kevin, and thank you for the message. If you like I can email you the text of your draft (it was at Draft:Leukemia Research Foundation) so that you can work on it further. The kind of language you used in the draft, though (e.g. "dedication of legions of volunteers", "patients struggling with the financial burdens of blood cancers", "The LRF’s contributions have had a tremendous impact", etc.), is not acceptable on Wikipedia. You would pretty much need to rewrite the whole thing to give it a neutral tone. See the "words to watch" page for some pointers.

About the organisation's notability - it looks like there are plenty of mentions of it in news sources and books, but after a brief search I couldn't find much extended prose about it, which is the kind of thing that we need to see to be able to include it. (See the simple guide to notability on Wikipedia for more details.) Also, due to your post at LRF, you should comply with Wikipedia's guidelines on editing with a conflict of interest. If you have any questions please feel free to get in touch at any time. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:06, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

(Oops, forgot to notify you in my post above, so here it is: User:Kradelet.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:09, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
As for how you can edit, you should just submit a new draft through Articles for Creation. Although I deleted your first draft, there's nothing stopping you from submitting another one. I recommend you read through the links above before trying again, though. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:13, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Mr. Stradivarius, Thank you for your reply. As suggested please email me the draft I submitted on the Leukemia Research Foundation. THank you
kevin (at) lrfmail (dot) org
Kradelet (talk) 22:35, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
@Kradelet: I've emailed you the contents of the deleted page as requested. Please let me know if you have any problems receiving it. Also, I've taken the liberty of obfuscating your email address slightly to reduce the risk of it being used to send you spam. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:32, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Module move

Hello Mr. Stadivarius, thanks for moving {{Year in other calendars}} to {{Year in various calendars}} per my request. I noticed that you didn't leave a redirect when moving the associated Module:Year in other calendars to Module:Year in various calendars, why not? Is there a policy or a technical reason why we wouldn't leave redirects on renamed modules? — JFG talk 12:49, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

@JFG: Normal redirects don't work in the module namespace - when you move the page the "redirect" checkbox is greyed out. You can create a new module which would in effect function as a redirect (the code is return require('Module:Year in various calendars')), but there is little point in this. As long as all the templates using the module are updated the effect will be the same, and not having a redirect means one less page that MediaWiki needs to request from the database. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:51, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks for the explanation, makes total sense. I have replaced the calls to the template from mainspace anyway. — JFG talk 07:12, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Thanks for helping with my mass nominee deletions based on G13. 1989 (talk) 06:54, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
No problem. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

WP:RPP

Reduction in protection level in Template:Collapse bottom. Enable access by template editors. --219.79.226.134 (talk) 07:52, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

No, sysop-level protection is as intended, as it is used in a system message (MediaWiki:Protect-text). — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:22, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Help needed

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T34950

Something has changed in Special:Block and I can't quickly find where/who did that. Can you help? The changes are these: In Firefox, when typing a "Reason:" under pop-up menu, I now get a code dump of all possible block reasons from the above pop-up menu. Previously this field was clean and I could use the autocomplete function of Firefox to fetch a custom message. Now the autocomplete function is suppressed by that code dump. Materialscientist (talk) 01:36, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

@Materialscientist: Due to the lack of changes in the MediaWiki namespace and the timing (Thursday/Friday), I am guessing that this is a change in the MediaWiki software itself. I'll try and find the specific commit later. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:46, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. There is no need in trying hard here, as I have very little power and interest in affecting changes made outside this wiki. I am more interested to learn how to track such changes (they do happen from time to time). Materialscientist (talk) 03:07, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
@Materialscientist: You can see the roadmap for the latest version of MediaWiki on mediawiki.org, which has the schedule for when changes to the software are deployed to WMF wikis. The pages linked from that show the individual commits that were deployed each time. (Sometimes things are deployed outside this schedule, but the vast majority of the time the commit you want will be on that list.) You can scan that list or search for keywords to help you find the right thing. Alternatively, if you know the repository and the file that you are looking for, you can use a tool like git-blame to find what you are looking for more quickly but I haven't tried doing that with any of the WMF repositories yet. The deployment that went active on all Wikipedias on January 19 was mw:MediaWiki 1.29/wmf.8, and searching for "block" through that page led me to a change with the description "Added reason suggestion in block/delete/protect forms" (phabricator task, gerrit code review), which is the one you want. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
For completeness, I was looking at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Tech News: 2017-03 for something else and found it mentions the phab ticket you just referenced, along with this: "When an admin blocks a user or deletes or protects a page they give a reason why. They can now get suggestions when they write. The suggestions will be based on the messages in the dropdown menu." Johnuniq (talk) 07:15, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Notification

Hello, I wanted to notify you, that I am using the content on your userbox page, mainly for the wiki markup coding, you can view what I am doing with it in my sandbox. I wanted to inform you per the Copying Content within Wikipedia if you have any objections, or need to discuss further, please do let me know, and I appreciate your excellent coding work, and all the contributions you have made. Take care, ActiveListener95|(˥ǝʇs Ɔɥɐʇ) 22:27, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

@ActiveListener95: No worries, go right ahead. Let me know if you have any questions about how to code things up. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:53, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Franck C. Whitmore, Jr.

I submitted an entry for Frank C. Whitmore, Jr. that was rejected. I would like to continue to work on this submission for eventual approval. What do I need to do? Thanks 2601:151:4403:A60:C4F9:1E7A:48F8:3D6B (talk) 19:02, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

I've restored your draft for you; it's at Draft:Frank C. Whitmore, Jr.. You can continue to work on it there until you're ready to submit it again. As for what needs improving, the comment by LaMona, the user who reviewed the draft in May last year, is a very good start: "The article must be built from information found in third-party sources (newspapers, magazines) that are independent of the subject of the article. Those sources must be referenced in-line with the text they support. No un-referenced material is allowed." Take a look at Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources and the easy reference guide for some more pointers, and let me know if you have any more questions. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:15, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Protection reduction for Naruto

Would it be possible to have the protection level for the Naruto article reduced (removed completely, or changed to WP:WHITELOCK)? It has been left semi-protected for close to five years at this point and I think that most fans now are more grown-up and would not disruptively edit. In addition, the series itself is largely finished, so it wouldn't attract a great volume of more edits from people wanting the latest developments added (or removed for spoilers). I have been able to constructively contribute at the article on the main character, and would like to be able to do the same at the Naruto article - because Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that everyone can edit, after all. Thank you for your consideration. --122.108.141.214 (talk) 20:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

  • I would suggest changing it to the white lock, if you'd like, because there are other IPs who vandalize Naruto related articles occasionally. MCMLXXXIX 21:12, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
    I've changed the protection to pending changes, so let's see how that goes for now. (I seem to have hit a database glitch while changing it, though, so I have added four more entries to the page's protection log instead of just one. Oh well...) If the vandalism is sufficiently reduced, then after a while we can remove the protection completely. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:29, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! --122.108.141.214 (talk) 23:35, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox software: Help needed for coding

Hello

I think we need the help of a good coder regarding Template talk:Infobox software § Repo property data is poorly formatted. And unless I am much mistaken, you are a veteran coder!

The problem is: {{Infobox software}} populates its |repo= parameter from WikiData and it is doing a very poor job of it, especially when there are multiple values on WikiData.

For now, to fix this specific problem, we need to make {{URL}} understand protocols other than HTTP and HTTPS. In this case, the protocol is CVS.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 08:54, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

@Codename Lisa: I think the solution will likely involve using a Lua module like Module:Wikidata. But, unfortunately, I am a bit busy at the moment so it might be a while before I get round to looking at this. If you post on WP:VPT you'll probably find someone who can help sooner. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:56, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello any estimated time for fix of Special:AllPages

I need to collect all URLS of content pages

So i was fetching all pages links by following next page feature

This has worked perfectly fine in arabic and turkish wikipedia

I have collected urls of all content pages

But i was having some problems in English wikipedia

So when can you fix that issue? Or alternatively, could you dump somewhere all URLs of all content pages?

thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by BurstPower (talk • contribs) 15:42, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

@BurstPower: I was going to suggest that you post on the technical village pump, but I see you already did. :) I'll join in over there. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:02, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Editnotices/Page/Power Rangers

Template:Editnotices/Page/Power Rangers has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:46, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Module:Toolbar and Template:Toolbar

Greetings, I was wondering if these two pages Module:Toolbar and Template:Toolbar may be candidates for template protection. On the one hand, they are fairly frequently transcluded and are used in system messages. On the other hand so are many other template protected templates. My personal opinion is in favour of template protection, as I don't think any extra safety from full protection here is tangible. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:07, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: Sure, I don't have a problem with that. I used to think that it was standard procedure to fully protect templates and modules that were used in system messages, but recent discussions on the subject have left me less sure. There's no policy on the matter as far as I'm aware, and personally I don't think that using full protection instead of template protection in these cases makes much sense. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:32, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. For the record, the "rule of thumb" I use for templates to stay at full prot is a) over 1 million transclusions, b) used in sensitive parts of the main page or c) used in sensitive JavaScript. I am open to the idea that a) should not merit full protection on its own, but that would need widespread sell-in. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:28, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Module:Comma separated entries/testcases

Module:Comma separated entries/testcases, a page which you created or substantially contributed to (or which is in your userspace), has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Module:Comma separated entries/testcases and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Module:Comma separated entries/testcases during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 08:45, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Japanese phrase

Hi

Your user page says you understand Japanese. I was wondering if you could make head or tail out of a Japanese phrase that has so far stymied both Google Translate and Bing Translator.

Extended content
天下布武

I just pray I haven't just posted a Japanese profanity in your talk page.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 22:00, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

@Codename Lisa: That is pronounced "tenka fubu", and was originally a personal seal of Oda Nobunaga. It roughly translates to "ruling the world through force of arms". It is also the name of a 1991 video game for the Mega-CD, and a chain of pachinko parlours. Hope that helps. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:58, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! Yes, I found it very helpful. —Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 08:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Adding infobox parameter

Strad, the folks at the museum where I'm the WIR have asked how to add a field — Executive Director — to {{Infobox museum}}, but I'm clueless on the topic. Can you give me the just-the-part-you-need-to-know version of how to do that? Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 00:29, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

@TransporterMan: Sure. :) That would be something like this: add a new label, add the parameter, and then renumber all the parameters below. The sandbox version I made adds both an |executive director= and an |executive_director= parameter. You should probably ask if it's ok on the talk page before adding it, and if you do add it don't forget to update the template docs. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:28, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Strad. I didn't know if changing the label numbers on the following items would mess something up, but I now see how you've done it. I appreciate the help and hope all is well with you. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:06, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:Unbulleted list

Hi! Your recent edit to {{Unbulleted list}} has, I think, made it display with bullet dividers, not newlines, between the items; in its present from it seems to be superfluous to {{Hlist}}. I imagine that's not what was intended? Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:09, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: Hi there. :) I think you might have misread the revision history - my last edits to Template:Unbulleted list and Module:List were both in 2014. Where are you seeing this bullet divider/newline problem? Maybe I can work out what's going on. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:26, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Well, yes, so I did – so sorry to have troubled you for nothing! Where I'm seeing it is in the infobox at Geometry of Fear, and it looks as if it's a bug feature of {{Infobox art movement}}. I'll ask at the village pump or something. Sorry again, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:10, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
@Justlettersandnumbers: Yes, that's caused by all the lines that look like | class1 = hlist in {{Infobox art movement}}. It adds the hlist class to the <th> and <td> cells in the infobox. The hlist class is defined in MediaWiki:Common.css, and is what makes all the {{hlist}} templates output horizontal lists. (Without the CSS, they would all just display in the default list style, which has each bullet on a separate line.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:27, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Outdated template deletion request

Could you please delete Template:Dino Charge editnotice, or at least the edit notices transcluding it as it now out of date. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:51, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 00:27, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
@Emir of Wikipedia: No problem. If you want to delete the template itself, it should probably go through WP:TFD (although I can't imagine anyone would object to its deletion). — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:33, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I attempted to speedy delete it but I couldn't as it was a protected page, however I am grateful for your reminding me about TfD. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 00:35, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Module:Unsubst/sandbox

Should the changes in the sandbox be merged to the main template (since you added them in 2014 but never implemented them)? I'd like to port over some additions from Module:Unsubst-infobox such as parameter aliases and stripping empty parameters. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 16:54, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

@Jc86035: No - if those changes are merged, then $N will stop being a special case, and start being a regular parameter. The problem with that is that several templates still use the $N parameter, despite it being deprecated. If those templates are substituted after the changes are merged, then |$N=template name will appear in the output, which is not something we want. By the way, how about using longer parameter names in Module:Unsubst-infobox, like $PARAMS and $EXTRA instead of $P and $E? It's not so bad in Module:Unsubst as there are only two of them, but with ten different parameter names it looks pretty confusing. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:05, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Should a bot request be made to remove the remaining uses of |$N=? I've changed all the parameter names in Unsubst-infobox except |$B=. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 08:35, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
@Jc86035: Yes, I think a bot would be a good idea - that's something that I meant to do but never got around to. About the parameters, I would change |$B= as well, as it's pretty cryptic. How about |$BODY=? Or you could always just allow them both. The templates that need changing are in Category:Calls to Module:Unsubst that use $N, by the way. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:07, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
I don't know – I think it's fine as it is, although $CONTENT might be better. Would a regex be |\s*\$N\s*=[^\|]+ →  ? Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 09:16, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
@Jc86035: $CONTENT sounds good to me. As for the regex, you also need to account for the case where |$N= is the last parameter, i.e. a template invocation ending in |$N=foo}}. And also, potentially, invocations that look like |$N={{some template|foo}}|... or |$N={{some template}}}}. There might not actually be any tricky cases like those in the input, but given that these templates are transcluded on up to 2.2m pages, it will be better to get it right first time. :) If you're using Pywikibot, mwparserfromhell works well for things like this, although you might have to fiddle with it to make it work with #invoke parser functions. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:22, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Filed BRFA. My bot account still doesn't have a bot flag, so it might be a while. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 09:43, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Escalation of template disruption by Codename Lisa

With regards to this discussion at ANI, what is your opinion on these actions (1,2,3,4,5,6,7, and 8) to circumvent any pending discussion at Module talk:Webarchive and make the same disputed changes to 7 other templates without soliciting any input from other editors? Note: I originally tried to ask the question at ANI, but Codename Lisa reverted me several times. 2601:5C2:280:8043:F126:B333:2DF4:1FEA (talk) 05:50, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Ah, so you two have met. This IP address belongs to a person Codename Lisa and I call "flyboy". He has been hounding Codename Lisa for three years now, chasing her around Wikipedia, reverting her actions, digging dirt on her, bad-mouthing her, like this that he is doing. He tried posting this very same edit in WP:ANI but Codename Lisa reverted him. He didn't dare stage an edit war there, because if admins investigate him, things are revealed that are not to his advantage, especially since Codename Lisa and I are keeping a list of all his IPs with which he has operated so far.
But of course, the reason he has chosen you as the recipient of this message is that you are considered Codename Lisa's friend (rightly or wrongly). What's better than sowing discord between friends? Divide and conquer, you know. Of course, you are not the only recipient. FleetCommand (Speak your mind!) 11:22, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
@FleetCommand: I've rangeblocked the latest batch of IP addresses for a year. Feel free to email me the others. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:24, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I am sorry but due to Microsoft service outage (OneDrive), I do not have access to the list of his IPs right now. Serves me right for not keeping a copy on this computer. FleetCommand (Speak your mind!) 10:18, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
It may be a good idea, FleetCommand to create a subpage within your user space where you can list all of these IPs. You and Codename Lisa could get it started. This would leave it where multiple editors/admins could start looking it over. I'll be one.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 16:42, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I would almost want to include CINCLANTFLT after seeing your username. I grew used to seeing that name in a different context some years ago.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 16:51, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
It seems other admins have enacted additional blocks, so thanks MS. As for your suggestion, BH, CL says she supplies this list on demand to any admin, but is dead against making it public. You can try talking to her. FleetCommand (Speak your mind!) 18:35, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

SUPG suggestion

Hi Mr Strad, it's been a while since we've crossed paths. I happened to use your very handy SUPG tool a moment ago and had an idea for a change that might make it slightly better... have you considered adding a category modification element that checks to see if the user being blocked is listed in Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues, and removes that category if they are? In my own case, it would save me having to do it with HotCat after issuing the block (something which I invariably forget to do anyway...). All the best, Yunshui 雲水 12:12, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

@Yunshui: Hi Yunshui, long time no wiki. :) That's a good idea - I've added it to the to-do list, and I'll try and get round to it when I have a moment. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:43, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! Always nice when one's own incompetence can be compensated for by technology. Yunshui 雲水 11:50, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Module:Track listing

Hey Strad,

Just recently joined Wikipedia. I've edited a few music release pages now and I've realised that the total runtime is entered manually by the user. This isn't a huge issue however it's a little time consuming and also prone to error (as I just had to amend a page for it being incorrectly calculated). I noticed that you've mostly been maintaining the track listing module. I'd love to implement this total runtime automatically by myself, however I'm not familiar with Wikipedia's lua modules. If you could consider adding this, that would be great. I'm willing to help out if needed.

Thanks, Dave - Sherbet-head (talk) 15:21, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

@Sherbet-head: Hmm, interesting idea. My first thought was that this might not work because track times are rounded to the nearest second. For example, say we had a CD with three tracks of exactly 60.4 seconds each. Each of the tracks would be listed as 1m 00s, as they are rounding down the part after the decimal point. However, the total running time would be listed as 3m 01s, as 60.4 x 3 is 181.2, i.e. 3 minutes and 1.2 seconds. So naively adding together the individual track times won't work in all (or maybe even the majority of) cases.

However, there is a way we could use this idea. The greatest possible difference between the total run time and the total of the track times is the number of tracks multiplied by 0.5 seconds (assuming that CD makers round to the nearest whole number of seconds). So if the actual difference is greater than this, then we can assume that there is an error in one or more of the times, and add a tracking category. What do you think? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:35, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

I see your concern, but ultimately it seems a bit of a moot point seeing as:
  • I would assume most wiki authors use the total runtime that they have calculated from the original track times (failing to account for milliseconds).
  • I think it's purpose is to serve a good approximation to the actual running time.
Maybe the best way to implement it for the sake of simplicity and effectiveness is have it automatically totaled by default unless the user specifies because they have a more accurate calculation? It may also be worth considering that the running time data in the music "data box" is also entered separately from the track listing. Sherbet-head (talk) 19:47, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
@Sherbet-head: You might be right - if wiki editors are calculating the total running time from the track times, then this would definitely be a good feature to introduce. I've added a section to the template's talk page so that we can get more input about the best way to proceed. Let's see what other people say there. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:39, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Are blocked users obliged to keep their block notices?

Hello.

Sorry to be bothering you, but I have a policy question and I don't seem to be able to find the answer on my own. And Wikipedia:Help desk, Wikipedia:Reference desk, WP:AN and WP:VPP all seem to be the wrong place to ask it.

The question is this: Assume a certain user is blocked for a month. Is he or she obliged to keep the block notice displayed on his or her talk page?

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 12:08, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello Codename Lisa and Mr. Stradivarius. Per WP:BLANKING, the user can remove ordinary block notices but not declined unblock requests. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 13:45, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Question about the article history template

Hello - you might be able to help with this query, about why lots of featured lists are appearing in a category restricted to featured articles. Thanks, BencherliteTalk 08:39, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!

122.108.141.214 has given you a kitten! Kittens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Your kitten must be fed three times a day and will be your faithful companion forever! Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a kitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Spread the goodness of kittens by adding {{subst:Kitten}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or kittynap their kitten with {{subst:Kittynap}}

Thanks for your help with the AFD message! 122.108.141.214 (talk) 04:26, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:27, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Module:UserLinks/extra

Hello!

I see that you were the creator of the module above, so I thought I'd bring this to you. I was looking at AIV this morning and clicked the WHOIS link on an IPv6 address and immediately ran into a problem. The module currently calls robtex.com for several functions for IP addresses. Robtex underwent a redesign a while back, and now it doesn't work nearly as well as it did in the past. However, the whois functionality is what I'm concerned with because it doesn't work at all for IPv6 addresses. I've recoded a few SPI-related templates and mediawiki pages to use https://tools.wmflabs.org/whois/gateway.py?lookup=true&ip=(IP address), and I was hoping that this module could be updated to use the same link. I don't know Lua, and probably wouldn't touch the module even if I did, so I'm hoping that you can take a look and see whether the change makes sense. Thanks for your time. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 11:53, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

@DoRD: Hi there. :) Yep, that change makes sense to me, and I've gone ahead and implemented it. Let me know if you notice anything amiss. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:26, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Excellent! Thanks again ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:52, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Protection on the Microsoft Office 2010 article

Hey, Mr. Stradivarius

I am here to request an appeal to another administrator's action. I spoke to him; the long and short of it is, he refused to believe me or check my evidence. Besides, you have had past experience with this certain issue. Please allow me to explain.

You are certainly familiar with the anonymous person who harasses Codename Lisa by chasing her around Wikipedia (WP:HOUND). You blocked one of his IP ranges. Administrators JamesBWatson, Bongwarrior, [[User:|Zzuuzz]] and Materialscientist blocked another. The request is about this malicious person.

On 20 July 2017, Codename Lisa reverted a poor contribution to the Microsoft Office 2010 article: [2]. It is my personal belief that this revert is justifiable on the basis of WP:V and WP:NOR. It is also the belief of another editor, AussieLegend, that the reverted edit was "clearly inappropriate". 12 hours after that, our malicious stalker, from the 2601:5c2:200:31ae:f15b:f5c2:8a8c:9212 IP, counter-reverted Codename Lisa.

How do I know this is the same malicious person? Two ways:

  1. Geolocation data shows this IP is contributing from "United States, Virginia, Charlottesville" over a "Comcast Cable" network. This is one pattern.
  2. The behavior: Quick accusation of edit warring and writing a plausible lie are characteristics of him.

I will send you a full list of this person's previous IPs and the geolocation data.

8 minutes later, administrator Samsara locked the page with full protection, citing "content dispute" as a reason. He hastily accused both Codename Lisa and AussieLegend as uncooperative editors and asked them to take the issue to the talk page. I tried to communicate with Samsara at User talk:Samsara § Microsoft Office 2010 protection but he summarily refused to look at the evidence by saying he is not a CU! (Aparently, he is not aware that admin also have access to the geolocation tool.)

I argue that because this a case of harassment not content dispute, the full protection is unjustified. As such, I request the protection to be lowered and the disruptive revision by the malicious editor reverted. FleetCommand (Speak your mind!) 18:14, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

@FleetCommand: Thanks for the message. I do remember this editor, and my initial reaction is that they should probably be blocked, but I wouldn't feel comfortable just reverting Samsara's actions without a discussion. It's probably best to open a new thread on WP:AN to reach a consensus on the matter. If we have the input of some more administrators, then we should be able to find a good way to proceed without anyone being able to claim there was any wheel warring going on. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:20, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Thread is now up at ANI. @Zzuuzz: You were, I believe, unsuccessfully pinged above. I'm happy for any other admin(s) to look into harrassment side of this issue, especially those already familiar with the case and/or with checkuser access. I think the problems with the text are best considered a separate issue. @FleetCommand: anyone can consult geolocation tools - they are not tied to Wikipedia in any way. However, this will not give you any info on logged-in editors. Apologies to Mr. Stradivarius for the notification fest. Samsara 03:54, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping - if I've anything meaningful to add I'll visit the ANI - I'm aware this is a wider issue than I'm fully aware of. All I can say is that it certainly does look like the same user. There is also no harm in establishing and documenting consensus on the article's talk page. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:10, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

RfA

Thanks for supporting my run for administrator. I am honored and grateful. ) Cullen328 Let's discuss it 21:14, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

disclaimer (MSFT employee) asking about new visual studio page

Hello,

Full disclaimer I'm a FTE at Microsoft (so conflict of interest, etc)

We are wanting to know the best route for potentially creating a new "VS disambiguation" type page for Visual Studio. Visual Studio current page is mainly centered around the IDE, whereas we have a suite of products now to be factually correct like Visual Studio Team Services and some other VS products that we want to highlight to ensure there is no confusion.

Do you see a problem with this approach? I could provide examples if that helped.

We just want to make sure we are abiding by all the rules here, etc.

Thanks in advance! Mike

MikeL MSFT (talk) 19:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

@MikeL MSFT: Hi, and thanks for the message. Disambiguation pages are meant to disambiguate things with exactly the same name (think Mercury the element versus Mercury the planet, or Beethoven the composer versus Beethoven the film). So if something other than Microsoft Visual Studio is known, in some context, as exactly "Visual Studio", then we would need to disambiguate the two pages. On the other hand, Visual Studio Team Services sounds like only a partial match for the term "Visual Studio", and that would fall under the "partial title matches" section of the disambiguation guideline - i.e., we wouldn't normally disambiguate it from Visual Studio itself. Instead, for related subjects like these we usually try and put links in the main article, either in the article body or in navigation links at the bottom. (I see both of these have already been done at Microsoft Visual Studio.) So, I'm afraid what you're proposing will likely meet quite a bit of resistance. If there is anything else known as exactly "visual studio" other than Microsoft Visual Studio, though, then we can think about disambiguation. Hope this helps, and let me know if you have any more questions. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:39, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Precious four years!

Precious
Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Update to Portal:Current Events calendar

Hello! I've been attempting to add more flexibility to the Portal:Current Events page in order to make it mobile-friendly. I have made some drafts for improvements. While most of the changes I've suggested have been to simple templates, working with the Module:Current events calendar is a bit more daunting. The major change I would like to make is on line 92. I would like to change the following line to (1) override the infobox float, (2) have a width that is more flexible (but not too flexible), and (3) to be centered in the column that it is displayed in:

Old — :css{width = '250px', ['text-align'] = 'center', … }
New — :css{['float'] = 'initial', ['width'] = '100%', ['max-width'] = '300px', ['margin'] = 'auto', ['text-align'] = 'center', … }

There are other styling alterations that I'd like to make in the future, but these three changes would make the calendar fit well in the current desktop layout and prepare it for a future mobile-friendly layout as well. I would like to have your review of this one line of code change as you are the primary author of the module. I didn't not feel comfortable attempting to make a draft module for fear of making a change to the live module. If you could link me to a good HOWTO for putting a draft module page in place to work on, I would appreciate that as well. Thank you for your time. — RossO (talk) 19:23, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

@RossO: Hi, and thanks for the message. There's a guide at WP:TESTCASES that I rewrote a while back - have a read and see if it makes any sense. :) Normally we put test modules and templates at the /sandbox subpage - I've done that for you at Module:Current events calendar/sandbox, and added your suggested edit. You can test out the module sandbox code by using {{#invoke:Current events calendar/sandbox|main}}.
Also, I should probably let you know that there is planned to be a new extension to allow template-specific CSS so that we can get rid of all the inline CSS in the module, and use different styles for desktop and mobile, etc. It is already working on mediawiki.org, and should be coming to Wikipedia Any Time Soon Now (TM). So that might be a good thing to bear in mind when tweaking CSS for templates like the one in question. Let me know if there's anything you're unsure about, and I'll be happy to let you know. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:42, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
@Mr. Stradivarius: Wonderful! Your sandbox page is perfect. It has allowed me to fully update the calendar (Module:Current events calendar/sandbox) with my further tweaks and I'm very happy with how it has turned out on my sandbox version. Thanks for moving it forward. (I think a testcase page is overkill at this point, but let me know if you feel otherwise.) If you are satisfied that the modification I've made are not detrimental, please let me know and I will move them into the production page/module.
I've heard about the CSS-outside-of-code efforts and I'm looking forward to seeing them Real Soon Now™. Until that bright, beautiful day is upon us, I will work with the tools I have today, knowing that it will all be rewritten again in the future. Thank you again for your time. — RossO (talk) 18:29, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
I have moved forward with the innocuous changes to the live version of the module. I have been been describing each change in detail to make obvious what's been done so far. While I'm still waiting to see if anyone comments on my layout updates, I think the controversial change I'm proposing for the calendar is to use Unicode arrows for the next and previous month links. (Diff comparison) Do you have any thoughts about that? — RossO (talk) 00:21, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

@Mr. Stradivarius: I have placed a protected template change request on Portal talk:Current events#Protected edit request on 11 August 2017 that I invite you to make a comment on if you have the time. (I am trying to get the change noticed by an admin who can make the update.) I could not have moved this forward without your assistance. Thanks! — RossO (talk) 17:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Portal:Current events Archive Calendar

I'm attempting to apply the lessons learned from the Events Calendar to the Calendar used on the Archive pages. If you compare Portal:Current events/June 2017 with Portal:Current events/June 2017/Sandbox you will see that Portal:Current events/June 2017/Calendar/Sandbox uses Module:Current events archive calendar. This updated version of Module:Current events calendar supports all of the existing Calendar functionality, but add support for a month and year parameter that creates an appropriate calendar for the requested month. Please let me know what you think of these updates. If you're happy with them, I'd like your support in having the Current Events Archive process use this module rather than the laborious copy/paste used today. — RossO (talk) 17:30, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

@RossO: I would probably merge those calendar modules into one module that has a currentEvents function for the main current events portal, and a currentEventsArchive function for the archive pages. That way, you don't have to maintain two separate codebases. In fact, I've been thinking for a while that it would be a good idea to make a generic calendar module that all the calendar templates could use. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:06, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
@Mr. Stradivarius: That combining was my original thought, but I didn't want to be presumptuous in regard to your original module. My updated module produces the exact same output as the current Calendar, but will produce a historical calendar when the year and month parameters are passed. Would you be comfortable with me dropping my Archive calendar version directly onto the current calendar version at this point? I've put my version into the Sandbox, and here's the diff: [3] — RossO (talk) 17:27, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Feedback on Current events archive page intro text template?

I would love to hear your feedback about the updates I've made here: [4] and particularly of the Intro Paragraph generator here: [5]. The primary page I created [6] displays an error message when viewed directly, but seems fine once it is transcluded. Is there something that I should worry about with that? — RossO (talk) 00:56, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

DiffOnly.js

Is it at all possible to additionally add a "diff only" link next to the (cur * prev) in article history pages? This would be very useful when dealing with extremely long pages that take a long time to load. Thanks, CJK09 (talk) 01:30, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

@CJK09: I've made a start at this at User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/DiffOnly-testing.js. The history page could use some improvement - the new links are big, and they make the rest of the line jump over to the right when they load. Could you install it and test it out? Maybe it could be improved by changing the link text or link location, and I'd love to hear what you think. It should also be possible to reserve the extra space with CSS, although that was only possible with gadgets available through the preferences page last time I checked. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:32, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
It works great. Perhaps the text could be changed from "diff only" to "only"? CJK09 (talk) 15:43, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
@CJK09: I changed the text from "diff only" to "only" a while back, and today I updated the script so that it works on recent changes and the watchlist as well. Diff-only links are disabled by default on history pages, recent changes, and the watchlist, so you'll need to enable them in your settings. Take a look at User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/DiffOnly for the updated documentation. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:51, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Confirm Rollback Script

Stumbled across a interesting bug with your Rollback Confirmation script. I'm not even really sure you could call it a bug, actually. If someone using your script has the "After rolling back a user's edit, automatically open their contributions page" option selected in thier preferences, the script will run correctly, triggering the confirmation box. However, the contributions page will immediately open, causing the box to disappear and the rollback to happen with no confirmation. I'm not sure if there's a workaround for that besides including a warning below the existing warning regarding deselecting "confirm on mobile edits" in the preferences. Also... if this has already been addressed, I apologize for the duplicate. Operator873CONNECT 01:36, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

@Operator873: Thanks for the heads-up. This can't be fixed without integrating this gadget with the contributions page gadget (the code is at mw:MediaWiki:Gadget-modrollback.js), which would take work and coordination with mediawiki.org. I don't think that would really be worth the effort, so instead I added an explanation to the documentation explaining the conflict and recommending that people disable the conflicting gadget. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 03:48, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
@Mr. Stradivarius: I figured that would probably be the best solution. Happy to help! Operator873CONNECT 19:39, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Process of fixing Portal:Current events archive pages

Hi! Would you take a look at my process for fixing the archives that I've been using. Does it seem like this is an appropriate method of working with these pages or would you recommend some other method? Thanks! — RossO (talk) 04:19, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

I want to make Scribunto better

It's been a while since you first introduced me to Lua. I just discovered a much more efficient way to implement string.match as I pointed out here. Also, I have several ideas on how to improve the mw libraries to make things much more user friendly... do you know how I can help develop Scribunto or introduce me to someone who knows how I may do so? I've never worked on extension building before. By the way, the source of my Module:Ustring may make you chuckle —CodeHydro 20:34, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@Codehydro: I'm not very active in Scribunto development these days (and I was always more of a module writer than a Scribunto dev), but I've left some pointers at your post on MediaWiki.org about how you can get started. If you have more questions after reading the links there, don't be afraid to ask. :) Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:59, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Documenting the Portal: Current Events component pages

Is there an appropriate page to really provide an overview of the entire technical structure of the CE portal? Wikipedia:How the Current events page works is directed towards editors (Which is the 'About This Page' link), but it feels like the developer side of the project has no center. Does it seem worthwhile to A) add information there, B) create a new page, or C) is there a different page that already has this? — RossO (talk) 18:31, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

@RossO: There's no page for it as far as I'm aware - but then again, I haven't looked. I would go ahead and create a new page. If it turns out there's already something somewhere, you can always merge them. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:25, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

hello

Are u from USA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.127.246.8 (talk) 06:14, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi! Nope, guess again. :) Or you can just find the answer on my userboxes page. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:33, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

brand van egmond

Goodday!

I tried to create a page on the atelier Brand van Egmond.

I thought it would be useful, if i look at other pages of design/creative firms.

It has been 7 years since I last created a page.

I thought I had kept the guidelines well in mind, and also thought it would be good to use existing formats: but still the page is declinend.

Should I not use the format of other design wiki pages, perhaps?

Thank you,

Dennis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69leiden69 (talk • contribs) 13:04, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Module:Break

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Iterating through a list of integers

Hey. Do we have any existing Scribunto modules or templates that can do iteration with an incrementing variable (or a list of integers)? Something similar to this bash one-liner: 

$ for i in {1..10}; do echo "* $i"; done;
* 1
* 2
* 3
* 4
* 5
* 6
* 7
* 8
* 9
* 10

I'm hoping to simplify Template:SCOTUSCases a bit by setting up a template or module that can output the 583 links automatically. I looked at Template:For loop, Template:Repeat, etc. and I'm not sure I see exactly what I want. I thought you might know a lot quicker than me. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 21:51, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

@MZMcBride: No, I don't think so - Template:For loop is the closest thing that I know of. The usual approach for module writers on enwiki has been to put everything that needs a for loop inside a module, so there hasn't really been the need for a standalone for-loop module. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:31, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
I added a 'for' function to Module:ForLoop and used it at Template:SCOTUSCases. Johnuniq (talk) 07:42, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
That's awesome! I love this edit. Thank you so much. --MZMcBride (talk) 14:37, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Reverting. Module:ForLoop should only be for {{for loop}} and it's feature of calling templates. The template that repeatedly expands wikitext is Template:For nowiki, and thus this feature belongs in Module:For nowiki instead, where I have added it using |cnt= (and updated {{SCOTUSCases}} to use the new method}} {{repeat|p|3}}ery (talk) 01:43, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi Pppery. Thanks for your help with this. I renamed "cnt" to "count" as I think "cnt" is too abbreviated. Hopefully that's okay.
I'm still studying this edit of yours. Maybe a '\n' would be clearer than an actual newline for the separator parameter? And perhaps "count" could be supplemented with a "range" feature so that you could do arbitrary starts (e.g., |range=9..11 would do 9 through 11 inclusive)?
I also left a note at Module talk:For nowiki about the name, which I personally find really confusing. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:37, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Feel free to start a WP:RM about the name of Template:For nowiki for the naming issue. I don't think "\n" works as a newline in this context anyway, and don't see how newlines are confusing in this context. A range feature wouldn't be too hard to add, but I see little need to add it right now, especially since one can already emulate this with {{#expr:{{{i}}}+START}}. And no, I have no objection to the lengthened name. {{repeat|p|3}}ery (talk) 03:45, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

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Please come and help...

Should MoS shortcut redirects be sorted to certain specific maintenance categories? An Rfc has been opened on this talk page to answer that question. Your sentiments would be appreciated!  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  18:30, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Veteran list

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Problems with Lua version of Template:Userbox

The new Lua version of Template:Userbox is producing one-pixel-wide white strips on many userboxes that appear after a refresh. Please see Wikipedia:Userboxes/Life for examples. Can this be fixed or do we need to revert? Yours aye,  Buaidh  20:08, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

This may be a browser specific problem. I'm using Firefox.  Buaidh  20:13, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

@Buaidh:. You are going to have to be more specific. Can you make a screenshot and put that somewhere online ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:04, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
After further examination, I believe this is entirely a browser problem. The white strips appear when Firefox displays at a scale greater than 100%. At 100% there are no problems. There appears to be no problem with Lua. I apologize for the false alarm. THERE ARE NO BALLISTIC MISSILES HEADED INBOUND TO HAWAII. Yours aye,  Buaidh  21:56, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
@Buaidh: Glad to hear all is ok. :) If you do see anything else with the userbox module, don't be afraid to let me know. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:39, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Converting {{Category see also}} over to Lua?

Hello, Mr. Stradivarius! I notice that you were experimenting with replacing {{Cat see also}} with Module:Category see also (in the sandbox). Was there a reason why you never finished the conversion? I'm asking because there's a bug in the template (with two categories, it inserts an incorrect comma). I would fix the bug, but if you're going to convert over, I won't do it. (Note that the module doesn't have the bug). Thanks for any info! —hike395 (talk) 16:20, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

@Hike395: I've taken a look, and the test cases looked fine, so I switched the template over to use the new module. Let me know if you spot any issues with the switch-over. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:00, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

James O'Brien (broadcaster)

Hi. You indefinitely pending-changes protected this article back in August 2014. I'm not sure it needs to be protected still; O'Brien is better known these days, particularly as being one of the best known voices in complete opposition to the British government. I did a spot check of all the IP edits over the past year, and the only one I would possibly class as vandalism or a BLP violation is this one. Can we lift the protection? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:17, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: Sounds like a good idea, and  Done. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:10, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
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