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The following map incorrectly shows Alaska a separate color from the rest of the US http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Image:Public_debt_percent_gdp_world_map.PNG

You're right. It has been corrected. MaCRoEco (talk) 20:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Je ne suis pas un menteur. J'ai essayé plusieurs fois d'utiliser la procedure "The work of someone else, who has given permission to use it on Wikipedia or it is a work released under a free license" sur cette page. Mais ca ne marche pas. Le seul moyen pour moi était d'utiliser la procedure classique. Bien sur, j'avais ensuite l'intention de rajouter "deritative work from Image:Structure of the taxation in France in 2007.png by Macroeco", mais comme je trasfere plusieurs fichiers, je n'ai pas eu le temps. Toutes mes excuses.--Pah777 (talk) 20:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ca y est, j'ai rajouté ce qu'il faut. En fait c'est en utilisant Commons que tout foire. J'aurais pu utiliser sur la WP anglaise la bonne procedure, je vais d'ailleurs changer le tag. ET ce n'est pas moi qui ait ecrit "I created this work entirely by myself", c'est un processus automatique, mon intention n'etait pas de pretendre etre l'auteur du graphe. --Pah777 (talk) 20:55, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Par contre, en anglais, taxation signifie prelevement obligatoires. Les anglophones ne font pas de distinction entre cotisations sociales et impots. Ils appellent les cotisation payroll tax. Du coup, les cotisations sont font partie des impots. Par ailleurs, le niveau de PO en France a peu changé de 2005 a 2007, donc le graphe reste vrai (de plus, le graphe est approximatif). Ce qui me perturbe sur le graphe en francais, c'est "autres", que j'ai cru bon de remplacer par "social contributions", cad les cotisations sociales. J'ai pourtant des doutes. Etait-ce une bonne idée ? --Pah777 (talk) 21:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dans l'article Taxation, dans la boite a gauche, la payroll tax est incluse dans les taxes. J'avais laissé un message ici pour demander confirmation, mais il me semble bien que pour les anglo-saxons, les cotisations sont des taxes et que PO equivaut a taxation. Et par aailleurs, ne dit-on pas que les cotisations donnent lieu a des contreparties, a la difference des impots ? Parceque les contributeurs beneficient tous de la protection sociale (redistribution horizontale, logique bismarkienne), alors que les contribuables ne recoivent rien (redistribution verticale, systeme beveridgien). Quand a ton graphe, je veux bien admettre qu'il est precis, mais je ne vois toujours pas a quoi correspond "autre". Peut-etre s'agit-il de recettes non fiscales de l'Etat. Toujours est-il que ce graphe est tres bien fait (c'est bien pour ca que j'ai pris la peine de le traduire). J'en ai traduits un autre aussi, Expenditure and revenues, France, 1993-2006.png. Jusrtement, je voudrais savoir avec quel logiciel tu les fais ? --Pah777 (talk) 22:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Il y a différents types de cotisations sociales (voir l'article PO), certaines rentrent dans les PO et pas d'autres. Le concept de PO n'existe pas aux USA.

"autres" : j'ai déjà répondu, c'est tous les autres "petits" impôts et "petites" taxes du document dont je t'ai donné le lien.

logiciel : Office 2007. MaCRoEco (talk) 14:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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