User talk:LeviLobo
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June 2024
[edit]Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article, or a draft for a Wikipedia article, about yourself, at Draft:Levi Lobo. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Notable people who have edited Wikipedia). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Thank you. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 04:46, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
independent writer on underrepresented notable figures such as Levi Lobo
[edit]I am an independent writer on underrepresented notable figures such as Levi Lobo and have had our article speaking on his notable work taken down twice now. This work is verifiable from multiple sources as well as others who have worked along side him have pages including the same material and they have not been deleted. If this continues we will have to investigate why you are u justly bringing these deletions against our client. 2605:59C8:526C:110:646F:1B9B:DD19:5AA4 (talk) 04:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Your content was promotional in nature. Please read User:Deepfriedokra/del for guidance. Please read WP:NLT as you must withdraw your legal threat to be unblocked. As you are not Levi Lobo, using his name is impersonation. You will need to request a new user name as a condition of unblocking. Thanks, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Here, you claim to be Levi Lobo. Which is true? Best, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- We are people who are working to have fair representation of individuals and Levi is someone who we felt should be included do to his notable accomplishments in films and televisions shows he’s been on. We are confused why there are still deletions of the informational page we posted as it is not promotional, it is factual and Informational. We are fully fine with changing our name to something else if need be to accomplish this fair representation. 2605:59C8:526C:110:B821:E64D:56EC:2B8F (talk) 14:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Further more, this is not a legal threat, it is a questioning for our investigating why he is being unfairly treated in regards to his page verses others with equal notability only in the hopes to resolve whatever underlying bias or interest Wikipedia has with not allowing fair representation of Levi Lobo. 2605:59C8:526C:110:B821:E64D:56EC:2B8F (talk) 14:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Please sign in to edit. I will now block this IP for block evasion. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Are there reasons why he is not being fairly represented that we have not resolved? LeviLobo (talk) 14:41, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Please sign in to edit. I will now block this IP for block evasion. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- First you claim to be Levi Lobo, then you claim to be a "spokesperson and representative" for him (which would be paid editing), then you claim to be "people who are working to have fair representation of individuals" who chose independently to write about Lobo. Which of those is it? AntiDionysius (talk) 14:44, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- We chose to independently write about Levi Lobo and his notable accomplishments. LeviLobo (talk) 14:56, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- So why did you claim to be him and/or an official representative of him? AntiDionysius (talk) 14:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- We made a mistake on that and are grateful for the Wikipedia community for educating us. LeviLobo (talk) 15:06, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- You mistakenly thought that you were Levi Lobo or employed by him? How do you make that kind of mistake? AntiDionysius (talk) 15:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- to be clear, we mistakenly thought it would be more advantageous to have the levi lobo page write it to verify the Information and write on their behalf which was a mistake and now we see it is correct to have it independently written so it is not seen as self promotion but shown as the fair representation of a notable and accomplished public figure.
- my question is, have we cleared up all the misunderstanding and can we move forward with understanding exactly what reasoning would be holding back this Information from being created now? LeviLobo (talk) 15:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, but that doesn't address how you lied about being Levi Lobo and then lied about being employed by him. That wasn't a mistake. That was something you wrote deliberately and are now saying is not true.
- Look, you're already blocked. If you want to be unblocked, you can make an unblock request using the instructions below if you want. My guess would be that it is unlikely to be granted, given you're still being very vague about your connection with this subject and what part of it precisely you lied about. (Are you actually unconnected to Mr Lobo and lied about being him/being associated with him to get credibility? Or are you associated with him and are now lying about that not being true?)
- The central issue is that the page that you wrote was written in an extremely promotional tone. It was not neutral, but instead served to advertise and praise its subject. Even if you really do have no connection to Mr Lobo, that would always be a problem on its own. The fact that you can't see that that's what you're doing is, frankly, concerning. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:42, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Like literally just now, you described him as a "accomplished public figure". That's promotional. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Look him up, it is a notable fact. Not promotion. LeviLobo (talk) 15:44, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- His page matches those of the likes of Harrison ford and other notable figures, and you are not claiming those are promotional. LeviLobo (talk) 15:46, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I already have filled the unblock form. I am not asking for your personal Information or your connection to the material you write, if there has to be edits to make the tone shift, I am happy to do that. I am only saying, you can find multiple other figures with the same tone and they are not being denied representation. This feels unfair and bias on who you believe fairly has done notable work.
- does Wikipedia require that individuals who write disclose personal Information? LeviLobo (talk) 15:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not require that individuals disclose personal information, unless they write about something that makes that personal information relevant. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:56, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- So most people's solution is just to avoid that. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is good to hear. Thank you. I will work to less bias in my writing and this has been an excellent learning for me. Thank you. LeviLobo (talk) 16:01, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- So most people's solution is just to avoid that. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not require that individuals disclose personal information, unless they write about something that makes that personal information relevant. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:56, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you think that is an objective statement, I really do doubt you're ever going to be able to write a neutral article. Anyway, like I said, you'll need to make an unblock request if you want to be unblocked. And in so doing you'll probably need to clarify why you lied, and about what. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:47, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I find the request that administrators know personal information such as how people identify etc alarming. I also have not made any insulting statements towards you and your writing, and hearing you make those towards me doesn’t not seem professional or representative of what Wikipedia should be representing. LeviLobo (talk) 15:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think at this point you are deliberately missing the point. No one says you have to self-identify. You are being asked why you said one thing, then later said that thing wasn't true. No one cares what your real name is. They care why you lied. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes and I explained that. Didn’t not? LeviLobo (talk) 15:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, you didn't. You just said "it was a mistake". AntiDionysius (talk) 15:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that is my explanation. It was a misunderstanding and mistake. LeviLobo (talk) 16:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, and what I said is that that isn't an explanation. You can't mistakenly think that you're Levi Lobo. What you are describing is a lie. AntiDionysius (talk) 16:02, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- It was a mistake to falsely represent him, thinking it would benefit the article. Yes. You are right. Thank you. Does this clear things up? LeviLobo (talk) 16:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Somewhat. Good luck with the unblock request. AntiDionysius (talk) 16:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I appreciate that and your time in regards to helping me. LeviLobo (talk) 16:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have independent feedback on how to improve the article on Levi Lobo? I would love to grow and improve my writing and do appreciate the call out, even if it was hard to hear initially. So far, I've heard you say that making sure there is no bias in the material. LeviLobo (talk) 16:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I appreciate that and your time in regards to helping me. LeviLobo (talk) 16:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Somewhat. Good luck with the unblock request. AntiDionysius (talk) 16:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- It was a mistake to falsely represent him, thinking it would benefit the article. Yes. You are right. Thank you. Does this clear things up? LeviLobo (talk) 16:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, and what I said is that that isn't an explanation. You can't mistakenly think that you're Levi Lobo. What you are describing is a lie. AntiDionysius (talk) 16:02, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that is my explanation. It was a misunderstanding and mistake. LeviLobo (talk) 16:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, you didn't. You just said "it was a mistake". AntiDionysius (talk) 15:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes and I explained that. Didn’t not? LeviLobo (talk) 15:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think at this point you are deliberately missing the point. No one says you have to self-identify. You are being asked why you said one thing, then later said that thing wasn't true. No one cares what your real name is. They care why you lied. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I find the request that administrators know personal information such as how people identify etc alarming. I also have not made any insulting statements towards you and your writing, and hearing you make those towards me doesn’t not seem professional or representative of what Wikipedia should be representing. LeviLobo (talk) 15:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- His page matches those of the likes of Harrison ford and other notable figures, and you are not claiming those are promotional. LeviLobo (talk) 15:46, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Look him up, it is a notable fact. Not promotion. LeviLobo (talk) 15:44, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Like literally just now, you described him as a "accomplished public figure". That's promotional. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- We? This keeps getting deeper. Please read WP:NOSHARE. Your continued use of legalese is concerning. And your stated purpose raises the concern of WP:NOTHERE. Please follow the instructions in the block notice to request unblocking. Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- There is no concern. I, am an independent writer who works to have fair representation of individuals with notable work. If you are asking me to disclose personal information about myself, that feels concerning to me and unsafe. If you are asking to verify that I am an independent writer, I can do that much. . LeviLobo (talk) 15:44, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- You mistakenly thought that you were Levi Lobo or employed by him? How do you make that kind of mistake? AntiDionysius (talk) 15:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- We made a mistake on that and are grateful for the Wikipedia community for educating us. LeviLobo (talk) 15:06, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- So why did you claim to be him and/or an official representative of him? AntiDionysius (talk) 14:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- We chose to independently write about Levi Lobo and his notable accomplishments. LeviLobo (talk) 14:56, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Further more, this is not a legal threat, it is a questioning for our investigating why he is being unfairly treated in regards to his page verses others with equal notability only in the hopes to resolve whatever underlying bias or interest Wikipedia has with not allowing fair representation of Levi Lobo. 2605:59C8:526C:110:B821:E64D:56EC:2B8F (talk) 14:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- We are people who are working to have fair representation of individuals and Levi is someone who we felt should be included do to his notable accomplishments in films and televisions shows he’s been on. We are confused why there are still deletions of the informational page we posted as it is not promotional, it is factual and Informational. We are fully fine with changing our name to something else if need be to accomplish this fair representation. 2605:59C8:526C:110:B821:E64D:56EC:2B8F (talk) 14:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Here, you claim to be Levi Lobo. Which is true? Best, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
June 2024
[edit]Your account has been blocked indefinitely for advertising or promotion and violating the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. This is because you have been making promotional edits to topics in which you have a financial stake, yet you have failed to adhere to the mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a form of conflict of interest (COI) editing which involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is strictly prohibited. Using this site for advertising or promotion is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia.
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Request reason:
Your reason here LeviLobo (talk) 16:47, 28 June 2024 (UTC) I initially lied and built the account as if I was Levi Lobo, and then a representative of him when really I am an independent anonymous writer focusing on fair representation of notable figures from under represented groups. :I also was informed on improving my writing style to not hold any bias which I am excited to delve into. I appreciate the immediate feedback and the thorough care that the wikipedia community has in keeping information accurate.
Decline reason:
There's no chance you'll be unblocked to write about Levi Lobo. Frankly, given your outright lies, I'm not willing to unblock you at this time. I suggest taking at least six months, editing another wiki (any other wiki), and making at least 500 non-trivial, constructive, problem-free edits there. Then come back and request an unblock here. Yamla (talk) 16:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.