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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Put Your Hands Up (If You Feel Love)‎

Please put your two cents into the jukebox. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 22:41, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Hair (Lady Gaga)

I just uploaded a crappy sample (I was previewing the license, fur etc., hit upload by mistake). The first chorus, maybe? Do you want me to include the breakdown too? Novice7 (talk) 07:37, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

The chorus is fine since that is mostly discussed. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:40, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I've uploaded another sample (I had kept four samples ready, lol). Is the new one okay? Novice7 (talk) 07:53, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

He he thanks its fine. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:08, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

RE: Hair move

Of course, I won't touch the article without asking you before, when it charts. I don't know what WP:DYK is though... I read the page, but still don't get what it has to do with the Hair article =P Sorry, forgive my Wikipedia's policy ignorance. --Evengan (talk) 12:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

That sounds great, thanks. Please let me know when we're ready to move the article. On another note: if any other BTW song charts on Billboard and they have enough information, can they have an article even though they aren't singles? --Evengan (talk) 03:53, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, I found this chart, Hair is at place 19. Also, Hair is at 15 on the Dutch Charts. Could you please add them to the tentative article? I don't know how that template works. Thanks, --Evengan (talk) 23:38, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I love it, thanks. What do you think of this, though? Is he really reliable? --Evengan (talk) 06:33, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. No as I replied, I don't think he is at all reliable, having personally seen him. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:40, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Help + Beyonce's new song has leaked online

Thank you very much. Please help me [Talk:Why Don't You Love Me (Beyoncé Knowles song) here]. I said that "A promotional single is not necessarily one which is free." and the editor replied "Says who?". I know i am not inventing things but i do not know how to defend my arguments. Please. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Please try do something here. Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:56, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Listen to B's new single before it gets deleted. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:17, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I can't hear it and Jivesh, I already gave my comments. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:46, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

But it's playing for me. And Legolas, i know you have already commented but the editor told that a promotional single is one which is free. So it old him to have a look at Wikipedia:Promotional singles but he kind of mocked at it i think. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:52, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

If he's mocking then its his problem and he's being stupid. You can tell that. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:57, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, is the song still not playing for you? I have already listened to it 7 times. Jivesh • Talk2Me 09:02, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Try this. It must play. Jivesh • Talk2Me 09:03, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Source. Jivesh • Talk2Me 09:18, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Is this reliable? I hope it is. It is such a wonderful article. Jivesh • Talk2Me 11:25, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes seems that its reliable. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:58, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi, you still here? I saw you know French. That's great. Jivesh • Talk2Me 12:59, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

My French is not that good. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

If you manage to write forgive me in French, you have already accomplished a lot. Lol. Is the link i cited above reliable? Jivesh • Talk2Me 13:07, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Lol, damn... And yeah it seems reliable. I already said it but you seem to have missed it. How many times are you seeing that video?? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:26, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Right now, it's 27 times. Jivesh • Talk2Me 13:35, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Have you been able to listen to the full version of B's new single? Jivesh • Talk2Me 13:37, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Please have a look here. He tends to rush things too much. All that promo or official thing started because of him, He needs to take some rest. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:11, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

[http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Beyonc%C3%A9_Knowles_discography&action=edit&undoafter=430151302&undo=430178598 With reference to what is currently going on at Beyonce's discography, can bubbling under charts be used? Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:55, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

No, bubbling under charts are discouraged because it is not a comparable position. For eg: a song charting at number 5 on bubbling under doesnot mean a comparable position of 105 on Hot 100. Hence they are not added in discographies. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:58, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay thank you. Goodnight. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:15, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Re-Invention Tour

Hey I was wondering why the size/placement change of that image of the Re-Invention Tour article?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.153.1.153 (talk) 00:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Its been a while crocodile

=)

Howdy!!!! Crystal Clear x3 03:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Damn gorl, of all the things there, a croc???? I'm doin good. Just learning to walk again!!! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:19, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

I picked the crocodile image so it would match the title =D I'm glad to hear that you're doing better. If you don't mind me asking, what type of injury did you get/what happened. When I broke me leg and had to learn to walk again physical therapy was just hell. Best of wishes!! Crystal Clear x3 05:55, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

"When I broke me leg" - lmao I sound like a pirate Crystal Clear x3 05:57, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Hark hark! Well I had a bike accident, and broke my left elbow and left knee badly. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:16, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Ouch, that sucks. I was gonna suggest leading the pedestrian life, but then I remember that my injury was from getting hit by a car, so traveling on foot isn't much safer! =o Crystal Clear x3 07:36, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Ouch for you too... damn these are painful girl, really painful. Sometimes it hits you so hard. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

IRK? Crystal Clear x3 03:47, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

On a more positive topic (but a somewhat painful one for me), did you here about The Tree of Life (film)'s Cannes reception? I thought it was going to be huge there; instead it got booed (and apparently the booing lasted for like 10 freaking minutes)! Oddly enough, that only makes me more curious to go see it lol Crystal Clear x3

Ya I did read it, seems like its polarizing people. Well it has Sean Penn in it, so I won't complain ever. :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Its gotten rave reviews from critics so far and even got the Palme d'Or at Cannes, so it'll probably be like The Thin Red Line (1998 film) all over again. Maybe if its an Oscar favorite Penn could get into Best Supporting Actor. I'm definitely counting on a cinematography nom from what I saw in the trailer alone =p Crystal Clear x3 06:20, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Record Chart template removal consideration

I am contacting directly you because you have edited Wikipedia talk:Record charts more than once in the last two weeks. The following templates are at issue at The Beatles:

See Talk:The_Beatles#Template_removal.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:06, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Its out

So, its out (Born This Way), what do you think of itttt? - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 05:27, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I got it yesterday, . Haven't completed listening it yet. "Mrry the Night" and "Scheibe" are just awesome! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:29, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Niiice :), "The Queen" and "Heavy Metal Lover" are my favorites from it, i have to say its a solid album. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 05:32, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Have to reach them sooner or later... I'm taking one song at a time and relinquishing my thoughts on them. Yes a solid effort still. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:33, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Madonna Cowbell

I have added the reference to the CD liner notes from the original "Madonna" by Madonna CD. This clearly credits her with cowbell for "Holiday." I had put in a link before ( to a cite you say is unreliable--not in this case) in that people prefer to click to see the source. The CD booklet is not scanned online as far as I know but the credits on the website I referred the interested reader to were consistent with my CD liner notes. I have now added a reference to the CD notes. I can send you a scanned copy of the liner notes from my CD. However, I am assuming you have sufficient documentation now. Perhaps you can obtain a copy of the album (1982/1983 version) to validate this point.

Regards

Hans100 (talk) 06:54, 23 May 2011 (UTC)Hans100

Hi

Hi Legolas. Is this reliable? It is stating I Am... Sasha Fierce has sold 15 million copies worldwide. Jivesh • Talk2Me 11:33, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Daily Mail, a gossip induced newspaper should not be used for anything other than description of performances, dress etc. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:41, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks. so now i can say that the source from The Daily Mail qualifying WDYLM as a single is not valid. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:42, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Egg-jactly. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:58, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Did you watch Beyonce's performance at the Billboard Music Awards? Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:01, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes and I just loveeeed it so-so-so much! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:03, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, same here. I hope it will help the song move up the charts. Lady Gaga praised Beyonce. I was not expecting that. I love "Marry The Night". My mom too. See this. Enjoy. I will be back in 20 minutes. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:06, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Novice has left. I feel so sad. so sad that words cannot express what i feel. I will miss him a lot. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:50, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I'm not gone Jivesh :P I won't be much active :) Novice7 (talk) 04:24, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, i know now. I posted this message two days ago. Lol. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:01, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Lady Gaga

This article needs improvement, right? Novice7 (talk) 04:24, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Better, an AFD. I can't find any sources especially saying that it was released as a single, except iTunes link, and I don;t give a fuck about it. Maybe it will chart giving it some notability. Good you see you hang round Novice. (You have stopped Jivesh from having a mental breakdown). — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:11, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Timberlake + Gaga. I have to hear it. It has a few good sources... Yes, it may chart someday :) Good to see you too! And, lmao :D Novice7 (talk) 06:13, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Its ok, nothing like Born This Way album. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:25, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

The YouTube revolution for Beyonce's "Run The World" has begun

If you want to laugh, laugh and laugh, watch the first video here. Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:59, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I saw it at pulse. I was bwahahahahaha... *Can't breathe* ! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:02, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

ADDITIONALLY: Beyonce will be performing today on American Idol!!!! Rumors are circulating that Lady Gaga will perform "Judas" mashed-up with "Telephone" where B will come out and do her part then mash RTW(G) into that! EPIC!! Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:04, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Ya, not happening please. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:25, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I did not understand???? Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:46, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I have exclusive insider news that Clarence Clemons is there, so its unlikely that Gaga will perform "Judas". She will perform "The Edge of Glory". And seeing that she hates "Telephone" to the core now, I don't see that happening either. As for Bee performing "RTWG", good for her, but then again if the Billboard Music Awards did not do anything significant for the song, this won't do either. Talk about beating a dead horse, creating it, beating the ash, diluting it, making a ash-horse out of it, beating it again... — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:50, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

But it has climbed iTunes, moving from #29 to #13. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:54, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Do you like "Till the End of Time"? Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Jiuvesh, the song is constantly losing airplay, did not get any adds this week, the iTunes movement you are reporting is old by one day, its back to #27 now. Its time to move on. And I like "TTEOT" better than this crap, but I dont believe it should be releazsed as single. Where are those damn 70 songs she recorded? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:07, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Lego's right. If that incredible Billboard Awards performance didn't absolutely capitvate people, then nothing will. Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:11, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Can somebody please give me the iTunes link? Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:37, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

You need to install iTunes, then connect to the iTunes store, where you can see something called the pop bars. Dont know whether you will be able to connect from Mauritius. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:39, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Actually, i usually view the chart from here. Novice gave it to me. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:45, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Did you see the Nicki and Brit Brit performance. I like em both but it really sucked. Adabow (talk · contribs) 10:02, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Nicki is good. I also like Brit but she never tries to sing live. She should. Rihanna tried and it was not great but i applause her for having made an effort. I love Rihanna. Jivesh • Talk2Me 10:16, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't know why does Britney even takes the effort to come onstage. Bitch doesn't know how to sing or even perform anymore. The whole performance was a "M.E.S.S." Actually, except Bey, all the performances sucked. I was bored until Bey snatched all them hoe's wigs. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:21, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Wow, hearing you singing praises of B. Lol. Legolas, did you really work for Billboard in the past? Jivesh • Talk2Me 10:24, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes for a whole year, but that doesn't stop me from criticizing their bland shows. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:27, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

So does that mean you were in the US? What was your task? Have you ever written any review? Jivesh • Talk2Me 10:29, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

No silly, I was a techie, I compiled charts. And I lived in the US, correct. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:33, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Have you had the opportunity to compile charts at a time when Beyonce was at the top? Hmmmmm, may i ask if you met your wife in the US? I guess no because she knows how to cook good Briyani. Jivesh • Talk2Me 10:38, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Lol Jivesh. Legolas, when did you work with Billboard? 2006?? Regarding Brit, if I'm right the last time she performed live was in 2005 :) It was "Everytime". But I still love her, especially her older songs. She was really good back then (not to mention the backflips she performed during 1999-2004). Novice7 (talk) 11:16, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Jivesh lets not drag my wife into this. And Novice, I worked there in 2007–08. As for Britney, she is just a ghostney of her past now. PS: I did love her a lot back then, even during the Blackout era, but after spending $120 for that fucking Circus Tour, just to see her mime and strut her pig like body, I can't. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:25, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, when Gaga entered the scene ;) I don't like Blackout (in fact, I don't like In the Zone too, except "Everytime") I agree, she's gone :( I still like her (only because of her older works). I like her more than Xtina :D Novice7 (talk) 12:48, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Nahhh Gaga entered US charts scene late 2008, by the time I had moved on to another company. I never really liked Xtincta Copylera actually. Must be because she's an A-class b****. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:07, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Lol, Xtina's attitude is kinda bad. However, I like her songs "Genie in a Bottle" and "The Voice Within" :) I don't know why but I love country music songs now :O Especially Faith Hill and Reba McEntire ones. Oh, I forgot to ask. Working with Billboard must have been fun?? Novice7 (talk) 13:16, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually it was like any other job, coding and creating programs to compile charts, introducing stations, new charts etc. The creme-de-la-creme was all the SoundScan nos. Pity, I didn't edit wikipedia then. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:20, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Request

What do you think of User:(CK)Lakeshade/Sandbox4 for its FA nom, the Critical has been transferred but Cultural Impact isnt done yet. Am i on the right track? - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 06:07, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I think its on the right track, bonus for you will be if you find any "ghey" boy telling their suicidal story, and the song is mentioned in that context. Have you come across anything like that? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:25, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

-sigh- no, "Animal" saved a boys life at her concert last month but not "We R Who We R". Oh well =P - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 06:32, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Or even negative parodies? *Die, fag, die!!!!! etc etc* ? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:35, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, nothing reliable turned up on a google search. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 06:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Well then leave it as it is. Ten years down the line change the section name to "Legacy". — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:47, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hahah, i have to add stuff regarding cover versions on Dancing With The Stars and Americas Best Dance Crew and then that section will be done. Thank =] - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 06:49, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

The Edge of Glory

Hey Legolas2186, I was typing up my response when I saw that you had removed your note, so I'll respond here instead. Don't worry about it: sometimes it is easy to misread the protection logs. :) While I'm here, I also want to thank you for the amazing work you've done and continue to do on the Lady Gaga articles: I see your name daily and am always pleased an what you do. Keep it up. Best. Acalamari 14:08, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Acalamari, really appreciated. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:13, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Have you?

Heard of this Swami? I haven't.. Novice7 (talk) 14:48, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I just bloody hate any kind of swamiji. Chances are he might even exist right in front of my nose, but I won't even notice their schitck, they are that irritating and fake to me. No offense to any1. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:11, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't like them too. I believe in God, that's all :D I just nomed it for an AfD and I wanted to know if he is notable. That's all :) Thanks Legolas. Novice7 (talk) 15:24, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Wet My Pants?

Wow. That's great but not to such an extent that i will wet my pants. Lol. Legolas, some sources say that Lady Gaga and Beyonce are not in good terms. Is it true? Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:05, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

The more i read the message you left me, the more i get excited. Bye for now. I need to sleep as i am going on educational tour tomorrow. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:09, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Lol, they didn't perform "Telephone", so you dont have to wet your pants now. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes. So sad. And i do not like Beyonce's new song a lot. For me, it's a 5.5 on 10. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:30, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Well you are a true fan then, since you can criticize her work. Same as me, I never liked "Born This Way". — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:32, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Not acceptable

If you're trying to get a point across, this crap is not the way to do it. I expect you to know that by now.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 03:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Apparently is the only way you understand to NOT do the same stuff. Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 04:05, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

First of all, whether or not you stalk this page, I'd appreciate it if you would mind your own business when I address him, as it really has nothing to do with you. Thanks. And to respond to that rude comment, I actually was not aware that those were not supposed to be there, only non-free content.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 04:15, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

This is not the first time I have removed unacceptable content from your sandbox, and I do that for every sandbox where I see it. Please be careful from next time, though that doesn't seem to resonate with you somehow. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:22, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Keep the rubbish comments to your email chats with Axel. And no, whether or not you have removed them before, you obviously didn't do a very good job making it clear.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 04:26, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Why are you suddenly dragging Axel's name here? And how do you know that we chat via e-mail or not? So, its kinda none of your business to comment on that. And its not just me, even Axl has removed these countless number of times from your sandbox, thought you might have read WP:SANDBOX for a change. Anyways, if you haven't, go through it as its kinda important and don't do these things again. Also the 3RR thing, as I might have said to you before when we were cordial, don't get dragged into fights. There is always the talk page. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:31, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I was implying that you should cut out the unnecessary remarks and save them for off-wiki chats, thats all. And yes, I am aware of that, in case you didn't realize I don't exactly appreciate it when people barge into my sandboxes and rudely remove things, especially when there is a talk page. And about the 3RR, don't start acting like you care all of a sudden, you ruined our cordial relationship due to my struggles with other editors, not because of issues with you.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 04:40, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

21

Please take a look and please do what you can. Yes, I was off of Wikipedia for a long time. Please do anything you can to help out, and it's much appreciated. Orane (talk) 04:10, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

How exactly is it a mess, though? Orane (talk) 04:44, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually the formatting of the references, some of which Nikkimaria did point out .(Gorl is too good at it.) I will take a look and format it in the FAC way, in a moment. I do hope 21 passes, we need a commercial album as FA. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:49, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, I took care of those, I think. And I used the {{citeweb}} and {{citenews}} templates. Could you just point out an example of a poorly formatted one, so at least next time I'll know? Orane (talk) 05:23, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

For eg, the references for the Belgian charts, Ultratop is italicized which it shouldn't being an online source and similar cases, like FIMI, MegaCharts etc. I will format them if you like. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:40, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

That would be great. By default, the {{citeweb}} template always italicize the "work" parameter of the templates, which is where one would normally put the name of the website. However, I always try to put "" in the template to de-italicize it, but bots etc always go back and change it (like this and and this. I mean, the edits generally are great help, but they also mess up the format of the refs). Orane (talk) 05:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I do a little trick for that. Ultimately its about the actual formatting which matters. So instead of the quotes I do this: <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.allmusic.com|title=Artist name|publisher=[[Allmusic]]. [[Rovi Corporation]]}}</ref> Sp instead of having Allmusic in the work parameter, have it in publisher altogether. That stops the bots from messing with them and Allmusic being an online source, will always come as unitalicized in the final reference. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

For Allmusic refs, I use {{Allmusic}}. I find it nice and simple. Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:35, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

1+1

Wow, this is exactly what I wanted next from B. It stands up there next to "Dangerously in Love" and "Halo". And the cover art is quite cool, too. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Ada, didn't get what you are talking about. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:57, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

[1] Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:59, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, I will listen, Adobe's getting updated. My only concern with her imagery is why the channeling of Sasha Fierce like plaintiffs? I thought she killed "her" didn't she. I would die if its anything close to the wonderful "Halo" though. And I can see where you are getting the DIL vibes. Its simple, and classic Bee which matters. Have to check whether RTW got any boost or not. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:04, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I actually didn't like the song at all. And wished she did this one. Orane (talk) 05:35, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually yes, TTEOT sounds better, although not a single-wise better. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:41, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I really like em both. EOT is more of the "new genre" she's heading to, but I like the rawness of 1+1. It sounds a bit like "That's Why You're Beautiful", which is my fave from I Am. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:55, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to be a pain, but did you find the page number for the Rolling Stone Top Songs of the Decade blah blah? The page with SL on it. If you can't get it then don't worry 'bout it. Adabow (talk · contribs) 10:16, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I thought I told ya! Anyways, it was from 78 to 89, but I dont remember where or which page was SL listed. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Whateves, 78 will do because that's where the "article" begins. Thanks heeeeaps! Adabow (talk · contribs) 10:23, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I just realised something after hearing it again. She's again taking the "copy Kelly Clarkson" route with the lyrics. 1+1 = 2 is same as Clarkson's U+Me=Us. She won't be spared this time I'm telling you. Her management are just assholes. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:33, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Which Kelly Clarkson song Legolas? Novice7 (talk) 13:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I somehow cant remember which Belly Fartson song it was, but I'm damn sure. And I'm always right about these things. PS: Gaga was epic on Idol. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:04, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm.. maybe "I Want You"? I haven't seen the Gaga performance. I'll check it out. Novice7 (talk) 13:09, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Saw the performance. Omg, she has a powerful voice and she doesn't need autotune :O Great, awesome performance. Novice7 (talk) 13:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes I love this fact about Gaga and Bey that thwy dont need to resort to backing tracks always for their singing. The thing with Gaga is that she can sing her ass off while doing complex routines which I've never seen before in any artist, even Madonna. Apparently BTW is going to sell a million copies on the first week. Now see the Trailer Nift loons go crazy :P — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:25, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, yes, yes. She can sing very well! I love Swift! She might not be a good singer, still I love her.. Novice7 (talk) 13:29, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I loved Swift till Fearless. Not after Speak Now, which I found just her whining and whining and whining. Good lord, someone should tell that girl that there's other things in life than getting a boyfriend. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:32, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Disruptive editing

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue triggering the edit filter, you may be blocked from editing. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:25, 26 May 2011 (UTC). This message was written by my talk page.Though I am not getting why?There was an edit request on Ganguly's page about land allotment,which was not done by you demanding more refs.Then I edited it,provided some refs to it(I was logged out that time that's why it is showing my ip).To make the reference more presentable I just added a new section "References" just as article page.So where exactly is disruptive editing?Could you be please elaborate me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishekitmbm (talk • contribs) 10:37, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

This is regarding so called disruptive editing on Novak djokovic page.I would advice you to check .Which clearly mentions the reason.I had done it before and for same reason I've deleted it. Hope you know WP:UNDUE well.--abhishek (talk) 11:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Please check the date on which I had added it,you'll know the truth.And please you avoid personal attack and maintain a healthy conversation as the policy of being blocked is same for you and me.I don't need to add a new section just for being genuine to you.I might had missed some explanations for some deletions(not certainly of novak's).This thing I'll take care. --abhishek (talk) 11:53, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

This is a final warning to you as well.Either avoid bad words/language or I'll report it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishekitmbm (talk • contribs) 11:57, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Rubbish talking is hardly something I'm bothered with. I provided you the history differences, if you can learn a lesson, well and good, else you do understand that your actions will be subjected to scrutiny. I'm keeping an eye on each and everything that you do. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:00, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

May 2011

That was not vandalism, that was just removing of nationalistic bittering and provoking. Since someone is mixing ethnicity and nationality on purpose. Since both his parents are born in Serbia, are Serbs by ethnicity, and their families origins are from areas that today belongs to states of Montenegro and Croatia. Not to go to more details, there is discussion about this on Talk:Novak Djokovic. Nightfall87 (talk) 15:16, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I found source, and put it onto discussion in here. Is this enough or will you still ban me next time I edit Novak's bio? :-) Nightfall87 (talk) 15:59, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I reverted it back to version that was present before the edit warring began. I read through the talk section (there are definitely a lot of nationalistic sentiments from both sides), but there appears to be a slight consensus for not mentioning their nationality at all. Also as it is a BLP it is better to have no information than the wrong information. AIRcorn (talk) 00:13, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Jessie J

I don't know if you like her or not, but this cover is fantastic. I have a small question too. "All the Man That I Need" was initially recorded by some group who released it as a single before Houston did. Should I create a section for their version? I could not find any good reviews/music video/live performances for their version though. Novice7 (talk) 14:51, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

If their release doesnot pass WP:NSONGS, then I'm afraid Houston's version will be the main one. Of course there should be a mention of the original release too. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Their version charted on the R&B Singles Chart (#45). Novice7 (talk) 14:58, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Well then its notable of course. But you are saying there's absolutely no info? How can that be? In case of cover songs the best I know is "My Prerogative" and "Love Don't Live Here Anymore". You can follow the format. Even two paras will be enough to warranty their inclusion. Btw, I like Jessie J's "Price Tag", hate "Do It Like a Dude". — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I've searched everywhere... I'll include the background and reception sections. Yes, love "Price Tag" too!! Novice7 (talk) 15:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

DILAD is awesome. I haaaate Price Tag, it's too bland... not even Bobby managed to persuade me to download it. Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Wet My Pants? (More)

What?????? Are you serious. I looooooove that song. It has such a strong message. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:44, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Ya, big deal. I don't like it. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:48, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't you think "End of Time" is way better than "1+1"? Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:54, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes definitely, but I dont find it as single material. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:55, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I think you will feel the same for every song on the new album because Beyonce is seemingly experimenting new genres here. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:59, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Meh, good for her, not for my ears. She needs a "Marry the Night" or "Scheibe" there on 4. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:08, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I think i have got to agree with this. Really!!! Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:38, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

"She needs a "Marry the Night" or "Scheibe" there on 4." You've got to be kidding me. Beyonce doesn't need to do anything that that no-talent, style-over-substance, attention-seeking whore Gaga is doing. Yes, I'm cynical. But it's only because people are so hypnotized by Gaga, and I just don't understand it. She's jut not good. Take away the videos (which I admit are creative), and the crazy fashion, and you're left with these bland, generic, electro-trash nonsense. Adele and Beyonce have more talent than Gaga can ever dream of having. Can't wait until she just goes away. Orane (talk) 04:24, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I never said Lady Gaga is more talented than the rest. What i meant is that Beyonce should also include some songs of her usual style. Please, let us not get into diva Wars. For me, Beyonce is the best (even better than Adele) but we also have to respect others' favorites. Jivesh • Talk2Me 04:56, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't getting into a diva war. I was just making a point. I respect Beyonce so much for actually taking a risk with her music, and not her fashion, since she's, you know, a singer... To be honest, she doesn't need chart success anymore. She's already proven that she can achieve that. So if this album isn't a Born or even a Sasha, I'll be happy, cuz "RTW" is amazing. And "EoT" is amazing...although "1+1" is just plain bad. Orane (talk) 05:06, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

1+1 and EOT both do it for me. There is only one Bey song that I don't really like; Gift from Virgo. Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:03, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, "1+1" will grow on me. Her vocals are on fire on the song. Yes, I don't like "GFV" and I just can't find myself getting into "Kitty Kat". Orane (talk) 06:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I totally love Kitty Kay, especially when she tells: "I'm not feeling it" on repeat. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:16, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

"KK" is the only song on B'Day that I skip. That's my favorite album by her. Orane (talk) 06:19, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I like KK, but in the video she looks kinda slutty. Sometimes I skip some of the tracks on DIL coz I'm too impatient to wait for the title song lol. Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:22, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I love that title track. i think it displays B's vocals very nicely. She seems so great while performing it live. Do oyu like "Freakum Dress"? Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:24, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Freakum Dress is the best performance on The Beyonce Experience Live. I'm not usually a fan of those hardcore rock electric guitar riffs, but oh, the passion! Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:35, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I love everything about it. Beyonce looks so good in the video. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:38, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Meh. Her best videos are Upgrade U, Green Light, Ring the Alarm, Single Ladies, Diva and now Run the World. Oh, and the dark version of Halo (but the official version absolutely sucked). Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:42, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I have to agree with you about "Halo". For me, her best video is "Run the World". I have to go now. We will talk later. Take care. See you soon. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:46, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Wow, my talk page is really Wiki's ATRL huh? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:26, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Yoü and I

Thanks for keeping an eye on the article, and for removing the unreliable sources from the talk page. I was just trying to archive links for future use. Hopefully the critical reception section can be expanded now. We will see if the song actually charts or not... Thanks again for any help with the article--I am hoping it can eventually reach GA status. --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:04, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

You know how to archive I believe? And yeah, you also have done a pretty good work. Don't worry the song will inevitably chart on Billboard Hot 100, and of course the irritating discussion on the talk page will stop. And yeah, it will reach GA too. How can it not when I'm there? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:06, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

:) Well, since I fought for the article's life in the beginning and have worked to expand it, I look forward to someday nominating it for GA status (of course, someone else might nominate it first... perhaps co-nominated? haha!) Regardless, it is nice to see that the article survived and I look forward to its expansion. By the way, I noticed you removed Switzerland from the infobox, why? --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:25, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Even if I nominate it, I will nominate your name first, dont worry I dnt swaggerjack anybody's work. And Switzerland was removed per WP:OVERLINK. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:32, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Lady Gaga article

Hello Legolas2186,
I just want to thank you for reverting my Overlink, which I did not know the policy.
Thanks,
SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? (talk) 02:53, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

On the floor

hi lego... did you forget bout the peer review? :( — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 17:18, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

HA! i'll let you off for two reasons: 1) your killing all the poison in the Gaga articles and replacing them with fields of roses and 2) ITS YOu! otherwise i'd take it personally lol. Would you mind posting it at User:Lil-unique1/Sandbox/Onthefloor? Then I'll work on the shiz there. As you can see I have a very large to do list which is really unfortunately seen that I have very little time. :( — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 11:41, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Ya I did it. And in response to your reasons, 1) I'm cute :) 2) I didn't get the "ITS YOu" part but I'm happy nevertheless! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:57, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I woulda been upset if it was anyone else other than you LOL. i know it wasn't intential. :) — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 16:33, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I have someone trying to steal my GA for On the Floor. Is there something I can legitimately do to stop them? — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 02:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

It seems user Syphillis has relinquished the GA nom. You can just remove the GAN tag from the talk page. Relax, these things have happened before also. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:01, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Just redone everything from the chart peformance section onwards could you let me know what you think? I can't believe Lopez has almost reached 2× platinum! its a certified smash!. Could you let me know if you come across any useful sound recording information for the song? I took on board your comments and am trying to write a more intuitive section but there's not much information on the structure of the song or how it interpolates the composition "Llorendo Su Fue". Thank you for the info about Lopez albums from SoundCheck. I'm a little disappointed with LOVE?'s performance so far, its a good album, but its lackluster performance is not surprising. Could you take another look at On the Floor for me? I've spent a lot of time the last few days working on it. I think its in really good shape. Admittedly there's more to be done with recording/production but I think its presently good enough for GA... when before heading to FA I'll work much more thoroughly on thos aspects of the article. What do you think? — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 22:38, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Rihanna S&M Article

I have considerably added to the S&M article. A list of what I have done is at the bottom of the talk page. I've been editing it to bring it up from a C status article. Would you mind reviewing it? calvin999 (talk) 13:21, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

What exactly do you want me to review? B-status? It still a way or two to go for that one. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:23, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

It's C status. I want it to be a GA. So if you review it in it's entirety, I'll know what to do to improve it further. calvin999 (talk) 17:34, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Soundscan Bey (+ Nippy)

Thank you so much Legolas. But the source? Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Kiddo, they are directly from SoundScan courtesy a friend in BB. Enjoy. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh yes yes yes. Sorry. I just read your message again. I initially thought you told me to update Beyonka sales. Lol. Thanks. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:46, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmm so you have also started with the funny artist names? That's very nice, I thought I was the only one here doing that. :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:50, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for the update Lego! I was wondering if we could use Soundscan (directly) to source the sales... Hmmm... Just Whitney sold 20000+ copies in two years? That's a great improvement considering the album's poor performance. Novice7 (talk) 15:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I learnt it from you, Mr Lego. By the way, may i know your real name? Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:53, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

No probs Mags, ya Just Whitney did ok and no you cant access SoundScan directly. They have a pretty restricted Mainframe. Jivesh, my name is Avi. Call me any of them as you wish. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:56, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I see. I didn't know that :) Thanks again Avi :) Novice7 (talk) 15:57, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I like your name. It's so simple but sounds good hearing. I can imagine your wife calling: "Avi! Avi! Dinner is served." Lol. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:00, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmmm, why the italiczzzzzzz? Gaga's snatching Taylor's wig, I could die...:P And Jivesh, what will your wife call you? "Jivuuu jiii" — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:02, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

No my wife should call me: "My ladoo!!!!" Lol. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:04, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Did you read about this? OMG Lady Google citing Beyonka as her inspiration? Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:06, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Ummm, Jivesh it s "laddoo", the thing that you mentioned is a bad name for "Scheiβe". LMAO — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:09, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, then i prefer your "Jivuuu jiii". Lol. Do you have kids? If no, do you want to have some one day? Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:12, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Lol, no I dont have at present. I'll get one as soon as Anjelina leaves one left in the market. :P Mags, I saw the interview, was kinda boring. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:15, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Are you talking about Angelina Jolie? If yes, my guess is that you want to adopt one? I was just having a look at all the work you do on GaGa's articles? I applaud you loud for that. Without you, her articles would suck. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:18, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Ya ya I'm talking bout Lara Croft and I was joking bout adoption.... And my work on the Madonna articles are more important. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:23, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Which interview Legolas? And Jivesh, you seem to be interested to know Lego's life :P Novice7 (talk) 16:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

MTV's Inside the Outside with Lady Godga. Jivesh is onw weird lovable dude. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:28, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Angelina is so beautiful, so generous, so.............. If i get a wife like that, that would be jackpot. Lol. I haven't seen Madonna articles. I will surely have a look later. For now, i need to get back to revision. I just took a mini-break and i enjoyed our little chat. You know, i did not like you very much in the beginning but with time, i have begun liking you. You are very friendly and like everyone, you do have a soft side and thanks for giving me the opportunity to have a chat with that soft side of yours. Lol. I do not know if i am using the correct words but i know you will understand what i am trying to tell you. Bye for now. See you later. Take good care of yourself and your wife. Goodnight. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry Jivesh. God must have created someone special for you :) Yes, I've said this before and will say it again. Legolas is a very nice, helpful guy. Thanks for helping us out on trouble Avi :) Novice7 (talk) 16:35, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks ya'll. You all do know that my middle name is "Rude Boy" though isn't it? Lol at that stupid urban myth. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I do :D See you Avi. Have a sound sleep :) (Starts listening to Miley songs and logs off) Novice7 (talk) 16:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Adios Amigossss, good night and study well for engineering Mags. God knows we need better Civil engineers in South. (Puts on Richard Marx) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:42, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia–Wikimedia Meetup
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Box Score

Hey! I was browsing the current Billboard Boxscore to find Miley's current tour's incomes and they aren't there... would you happen to know why? -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 22:55, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Not yet reported will be my guess, or its incomes were below the threshold set by Billboard. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:28, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

She's playing stadiums in South America. And in Mexico she sold 60,000 tickets at the Foro Sol. The dates that are there are within the same time frame, so maybe they haven't been reported yet. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 06:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

If its 60,000 tickets, then it takes time to report it. They have to calculate gross, gross average, then the profit per ticket, loss leader etc, and then they report. So yeah, it might be another 2-3 weeks before you see it though. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:55, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh and what about like her first performance on April 29. That isn't there yet either. Also, I'd love to hear what you actually think about Miley. Do you like any of her songs? -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 06:58, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Lol, why everyone asks mine? I'm not a reviwer. Personally I like some of her songs like PITUSA, TC, HT, WOMH etc. I rarely liked her Hannah Montana stuff though. I think the girl is talented, though hugely misdirected at present. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:01, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Lol. In my case, I just wanted to know. And what do you mean by misdirected? I really don't like how she's always complaining about the paparazzi. Like she needs to get over herself and deal with it. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 07:07, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)(edit conflict) Oh! Me Me!!! Aall her songs are cool and lovely imo :P I've loved her since Hannah Montana started in 2006. I love "See You Again", "I Thought I Lost You", PITUSA, "When I Look at You", TC, "Breakout", and WOMH.. (not a big fan of Can't Be Tamed). When Hannah Montana was on, I liked "Make Some Noise", "Nobody's Perfect"... Good times, I used to love Hannah Montana :) As for Paparazzi, they are always after her. She's a very nice girl! Novice7 (talk) 07:12, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Look at the abrupt change for this album. That's a huge misdirection and one which completely alienated her core of teenage fanbase, resulting in huge commercial disappointment. Her management should be fired actually. The progress should have been gradual and not "kill Hannah Montana, NOW" change. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I totally agree with you. No matter what they do to erase the HM thing, "pre"-teenagers will always see her as Miley Stewart aka Hannah Montana. The change should have been gradual. Atleast she is open and true to herself. Novice7 (talk) 07:17, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Ya and I'm always right. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:19, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Yep sir *salute* :D Novice7 (talk) 07:21, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

See maybe that's why everyone wants to know your opinion. Novice, I liked Miley since 2006 (I still remember buying the first soundtrack). Then in 2007 & 2008, I grew to have a hatred for her (maybe it was cuz of Nick Jonas or I was just kind of emo at the time lol) Not actually emo, just listened to rock. Then after the "The Climb" I became the fanatic I am today. Legolas, I don't even think it was the sound of the album that really alienated her core fan base. It was the sudden sexy image. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 07:23, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

It wasn't a deep hatred I'd like to point out. It was more superficial. Deep down, I knew I liked her but denied it to myself. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 07:25, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I've always loved her. I did have a tiny bit of hatred in 2008(?) when she went all "Look, I'm no Hannah"... You're a true fan indeed :) I remember buying the soundtrack too! One of the best days of my life 8) Novice7 (talk) 07:39, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Lol, I remember buying on Halloween right before going to a Halloween party in 6th grade. Oh the good days. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 07:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Legolas, what do you think should be Miley's next career move? Should she stick to being sexy or go back? -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 07:47, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Ya Ipod, I meant image wise only. She went from the sweet chirpy teenager to the edgy,slutty look, which will never be accepted by teenage fans, which was her core really. I'm actually too old for Miley, I have left that age listening to Celine, Elton, BSB, etc.... Oh, I'm so old, *wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa* Novice, Miley would be better to go back to movies at present and develop herself imagewise into a matured woman. Case in point the complaining attitude, which won't take her anywhere. Once her image is developed , come back to music and then build a core audience of adult contemtporary + pop. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:50, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I have two replies (multiple personality): The normal Mags says: Yeah, I agree with you Legolas. She should re-evaluate herself and return with a stable image. The die hard fan says: NO!! She should go back!! Miley we love you!! I want the old Miley back!. Lol, I was just kidding. I really agree with you Legolas (on the music thing). Novice7 (talk) 07:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Snigger*. The old Mileyy's gone. Evenm if she tries to bring it back, she can't. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:05, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

You read my mind! As for acting, she may have actually done that. She's shot 2 movies (one of them, LOL, being an indie movie with an unknown director and a low budget; the other one the opposite). LOL is actually pretty good choice because she indie movies are what make actors get hired for big & good movies. She's touring at the moment which is a good sign that's she's not given up music. I want her to shoot one more movie (but hire an acting coach for once) and return to music in 2012 with a very diverse record. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 08:09, 29 May 2011 (UTC)