User talk:Kudpung/Archive Dec 2012

How come...

...the [Mark this page as patrolled] link does not show even when I access a page thru New pages? Signed: Basemetal00 (write to me here) 14:46, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

It shouldn't be showing. For more information please see Wikipedia:Page Curation/Help and above all, WP:NPP. However, I do think you need more general experience with editing articles and using Wiki markup before even attempting to patrol new pages. happy editing! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:20, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Actually I wasn't asking in order to patrol. I just wanted to know why. Thanks again. Signed: Basemetal00 (write to me here) 00:41, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Multiple Accounts

I went through the rename process, but what exactly do you mean by more transparently? Fox Wilson (talk) 03:15, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

I didn't realise that you had gone through the rename process. That said, if I hadn't realised, some others might not either. Just a technical reality, that's all. Nothing to worry about - sorry if I caused you undue concern. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:43, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Herr Professor

Since we last checked in: Modified the BLP final warning you left, replacing your warning text with "Wimpy whiny wimpy whiny" above your unchanged signature; Same thing ("Whine whine whine") to a warning left by a different user about adding unsourced content; followed shortly by removing well-sourced content without explanation; added "bar fight antagonist known for big balls" and again "Big Mike (big balls)", the Professor's fifth attempt to get large-testicle-related content into the On Deadly Ground article; plus, a handful of mildly productive edits. Is more still needed? Zad68 23:42, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Not really, but one more nonsense edit and I'll indef block. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:59, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Wrongly Blocked, Seeking Assistance

This is Colton Cosmic. Hi Kudpung, I picked your name more or less randomly from the long list of admins (I first looked at some who were inactive, and then there was another whose talkpage seemed a bit incomprehensible to me). I have been blocked from editing Wikipedia. This very comment is block evasion (I assert that it is justified or, at a minimum, necessary). I am writing to ask that you consider my case and unblock me. You are not the first admin I've asked, but I do affirm to you that you are the only one currently and I will not "spam" random admins with unblock requests.

I see from the top of your page that you are a no-nonsense individual. If you see fit to look at my case, it's longwinded and tedious and I've acquired a surprising number of detractors, but this has really been against my will. I do not believe I have "wikilawyered." I have repeatedly asked for any evidence at all of the sockpuppeting (I never did it) and "abuse of multiple accounts" (I never did it, I cleanstarted because of an outing, never had more than one account at a time, I further). (As for "abuse," I own up to some incivility, some smart-assedness, and "talking back to an admin" if that's a policy violation. The other stuff I think I stand by.) You also have to be willing to entertain, if only for the sake of argument, the possibility that evasion of an uncommented, undiffed, and I assert unwarned and unjust and policy-free block, neither retroactively validates the block nor necessarily furnishes the basis for a new block. Finally I pledge to play it straight with you, whether or not you take my part in this.

If I haven't lost you yet, brace yourself for a lot of words. I was indefinitely blocked without discussion by "Timotheus Canens" on his sockpuppeting and "abuse of multiple accounts" charges. These are not true, and I don't want them on my user page for the next 500 years as if they were. I have come to realize that that I need an admin willing to take my part in this. If that's you, I promise to adhere better to WP:CIV, which I acknowledge as a past failing. I saw an editor wikihounding a vulnerable and upset fellow editor,[1][2] and I saw a policy or guideline for admin behavior (I later found it was only "essay")[3][4] premised on a suicide metaphor and I responded too sharply to both of those.

Now, if you look at my talk page, there's a bunch of longwinded quarreling there. I regret that you have to read any of it to make a determination. I can tell you I didn't want to read it either, or respond to it. Where do they come from, I don't know. An editor MastCell I don't know from Adam pops up at my talkpage to interrogate me about prior accounts, without explanation, [5] and finishes by calling me a liar[6]. There's plenty more catcalling there, I don't think I should be blamed for that, or having to respond to it. I don't want you to have to read it. I never wanted it. It's Usenet-style stuff I want to put behind me and be able to edit again.

The pertinent matter in my view, is evidence of sockpuppeting or "abuse of multiple accounts," this is what I was purportedly blocked for. I never sockpuppeted. I never had "multiple accounts." I had a single previous account that I abandoned because of an outing, and moved on to the current. This is WP:CLEANSTART, which has dual justifications last I checked, one of which is no-fault. I am not required to disclose the name of the previous account. That would defeat a major purpose of WP:CLEANSTART. In my view it would violate WP:FAITH as well, as I have stated I complied with WP:CLEANSTART. To belabor this necessarily a moment more, as my "interpretation" of that policy has been faulted without explanation or alternate interpretation, as well it was alleged that I should've been "low profile" in my cleanstart, I state that in my view I complied with letter and spirit of the policy, and never sought controversy.

Before coming to you I appealed to ArbCom. It declined without explanation to unblock me[7] and stated it would need me to disclose (to it) my pre-cleanstart account. Neither did it place conditions on me, except terms (no IP edits, wait six months) before I could apply to it again, but I am not going to apply to it again, thus its terms are not violated. This is not wikilawyering (it might sound like it) but look at what it said, it's matter of fact. So, you may be inclined to be deferential to ArbCom *but I tell you* it did *not* block me, it only *declined to lift* my block. Any admin can unblock me, entirely in accordance with policy, as far as I can tell. You're not going to risk the ire of ArbCom in my view, you may find yourself at odds with "Timotheus Canens."

Now, I never want to write longwinded detail, but the problem is I've found that admins rely on the allegations and arguments of others and find against me. So I have to address, I guess, the particulars of those that I suppose might work against me. Briefly: BWilkins never made me an offer, unless "give me $50 and I may give you my bicycle is an offer."[8] Nomoskedacity's accusation of 3RR violation does not stand up to scrutiny, I reverted twice, just look at it. [9][10]

Last, on my block-evading. I've asked you to separate your appraisal of that from the block. I think the way to decide such things is to decide the validity or invalidity of the block, the subsequent block evasion is exacerbated by a valid block, but mitigated by an invalid one, and I'd argue excused by an abusive one. I'm not going to write another novel here about my block evasion, which has been substantial, but I'll say I think it has fallen into two categories: A) seeking lifting of my block, and B) seeking removal of "outing" material at Phoenix Jones (the subject and his representative have asserted this disclosure, on the Internet generally not particularly at Wikipedia although that's where it's immediately found via websearch, places him and his family at risk of reprisals from criminals, the response from several other editors has been "the cat's out of the bag" which is a non-policy justification). I hope you do not get sidetracked on this, and that you are rather able to focus whether my block for sockpuppeting and "abuse of multiple accounts" is proper.

Kudpung, thank you for your consideration. You need more answers (about anything) unblock merely my page (or ask here, but then I've got to block evade) and we'll go from there. Colton Cosmic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.211.155.135 (talk) 13:43, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

I understand your dilemma but there's really very little I can do here. First off, as the page notice above says, I'm currently very short of time for long investigations. Secondly, Arbcom has made a decision and as they are a higher authority than I am, I 'm not going to interfere with their judgement. By posting here you have broken the block evasion rule and by continuing to do so you will only dig yourself deeper in. I'm sorry i can't be of more help. Perhaps you can let time elapse and make a new appeal to Arbcom after the elections. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:15, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

cvu

i would like to join the counter vandalism unit.Harishrawat11 (talk) 12:55, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Response

I don't wish to continue this any longer (as Hahc has archived the conversation), but to this comment, I didn't suggest that you suggested that I was young or inexperienced. Ironically enough, someone actually said that to me earlier today. Statυs (talk) 02:37, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

'Nuf said ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

King of Thailand page blocked by Thai Ministry of Communication?

FYI: WP:VPM#King of Thailand page blocked by Thai Ministry of Communication?. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Not blocked. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:05, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm Back!

Hey Kudpung, Sorry I left without any notice all those months ago. I ran into some sudden and prolonged family drama. Anyway, I'm making a comeback if you still need my help :). I've been editing as an IP for a week or so, but I'm finally sure that I'll be able to recommence editing regularly.

Regards, — Oli ^OR Pyfan! 06:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

ขอบคุณ

ขอบคุณสำหรับความผิดพลาดช भास्कर्bhagawati Speak 08:49, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

ไม่เป็นไรครับ. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:32, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Spinner (wheel)

Hello! I am not sure how much background you may have on this issue; but if you have anything to add, I have opened a thread at ANI here. Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 09:36, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

I know all about it. I'll check out the ANI - thanks for the heads up. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I saw that you blocked. Looks like quite a story, so I'll politely avoid! Have a good one. --Tgeairn (talk) 09:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

• • • Gentleman, J.D. Gragg here. I owe you an apology! Recently at the end of June 2012 had my identity stolen and several accounts hacked including very confidential information. You all seem you be very Internet savvy so I am sure you can understand just how upsetting and infuriating the event had been for me including my family, of which was the worst part of it. My investigator has just finished up with his duties and contacted me and I have found that the Wikipedia event was nothing more than pure coincidence. The main reason it did not appear this way to me was I had a lot of trouble believing that a true Wikipedia editor would edit and completely delete entire blocks and sections, including the picture that another Wiki editor then had to then reinsert, and that it was done "anonymously" at first, but then created an account just a few minutes later plus it appeared to be his very first edit, not to mention he was incapable of spelling the simplistic word "referring". Then the fact that it was edited for all "cites linking to personal or self-promotional websites" was incorrect. The only cite link back to any of my websites was the one linked to my personal name. All other cites were to the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office along with cites to the U.S. Federal Court system East and West coasts, so I am sure, well I hope rather, that you can understand my position, confusion and knee-jerk reactions to all of this and accept my apologies for the entire event, as the apology is indeed sincere. I do understand that all of you do a tremendous amount of work and do it for the love of it and not monetary gain, that is for sure. So in closing, please accept my apology and should you ever require anything that I could do to make this horrid event up to you please feel free to ask. I am easily contacted via Google should you not already have my contact.

On a side note, please keep the mention of the Modern Day Wheel Spinner clean of misinformation as I still have licensing active around the globe into the 2020's and Wikipedia being international does reach them all. As for the confusion about phrasing, I have been throughout the U.S. Federal Courts and it is important that the Modern Day Wheel Spinner is not confused with the cheap spinning inferior hubcaps that trailed into the market place on the cheap end of the craze. Also, that the spinning hubcap that you have cited actually functions as a "stationary non-spinning hubcap" and has been reviewed throughout the original patent issue, again later validating the patent in the U.S. Federal Courts by U.S. Federal Judges and Magistrate Judges that specialize in IP's, plus the top 2% of Intellectual Property attorneys that were involved being the best in the field and was not, I repeat was not found to be "Prior Art". Just as an FYI that picture of the Modern Day Wheel Spinner you are using has been reviewed and is an illegal clone from China, just to let you know. So again please accept my sincerest apology. Nothing but the best of high regards to the all of you! James J.D. Gragg70.234.170.149 (talk) 10:16, 8 December 2012 (UTC) (I hope I finally learned to sign out correctly?)70.234.170.149 (talk) 10:16, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Your IP has been blocked again. Please understand that the block applies to you whaterver means you use to comment on this encyclopedia.We are not interested in your persistent promotion of your hubcaps or their patents. Thank you. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Reply

Hey Kudpung, Done. It is a pioneer. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Dojo_Kamakura

Regards, Vermount564 (Vermount564) 15:00, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately the article still does not meet our criteria for notability so I have asked the community to decide. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:08, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Anise K

Hi Kudpung,

I appreciate your friendly notification. I have made some updates to the flagged article http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Anise_K and added some references. I'll be making further updates in the coming days to add further substance to the article and back it up with, hopefully, higher quality references. As you may understand, it is difficult to come by third party online articles for smaller artists that corroborate statements (e.g. birth location, performances, education...). If you have any suggestions or tips for a novice Wikipedia contributor, I am all ears. In the mean time I have and I am reading your profile and the Wikipedia guidelines

Regards, NolFito 15:20, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

FireHaze

Please I need to know because Article Firehaze erased, because this information is published is all true and so we set out the sources!

We need to put our article on Wikipedia, because we see in it a high level of seriousness and firmness — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoansierra (talk • contribs) 16:50, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. I'm not going to lie to you, this is a little frustrating. I've been publishing FireHaze's article here on Wikipedia, and you guys keep deleting it. I understand the rules and the procedures very well, and I consider that you are being really unfair when deleting all the articles I've published.

First, FireHaze is a Metal Band in the Unites States of America. They have been active for 3 years and are based in New Jersey. They have a music video published, an Official Website (All this products are high quality and professionally made), and a not too small following in the northern part of the country that would be delighted to see their hero band in this awesome encyclopedia. They have been quoted by many other artist and personalities. One great example is the quote they received from Jose Mangin, a personality from Sirius Radio (His program is called Liquid Metal).

I consider myself a fan of the band, and along with all it's fans, I would love to see the article being published, because this band really deserve it.

Also, ALL THE MATERIAL BEING PUBLISHED IN FIREHAZE'S ARTICLE, HAS THE REQUIRED PERMISSIONS FROM THE BAND. NOTHING IS VIOLATING ANY POSSIBLE COPYRIGHTS, MAKING THIS A VERY CLEAN, INFORMATIVE AND PROCEDURE-FRIENDLY ARTICLE. CERTAINLY MAKING IT VERY ELIGIBLE FOR AN ENCYCLOPEDIA

I really don't understand why you guys keep erasing it. And I ask you, please, let this article be published. The band, AND THE FANS of the band DESERVE IT.

Thanks for your time. Hope to hear from you soon.

-Yoansierra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoansierra (talk • contribs) 16:55, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:42, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Your CSD/PROD logs

Hi Kudpung. While a rather moot point, I figured I'd let you know—regardless of if you're already aware or not (for all I know it could intentional)—that your CSD and PRODs are being logged to User:Kudpung/User:Kudpung/CSD log and User:Kudpung/User:Kudpung/PROD log. I assume this is because you entered "User:Kudpung/**" into your Twinkle preferences for the log name, rather than "**". Just making sure you were aware. Cheers, —Theopolisme 18:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm quite aware of it - I wouldn't be able to use them if I weren't ;) Not quite so moot though, because I still use Twinkle a lot - there are some things where Twinkle still performs better than the New pages Feed. Cheers, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

PROD at Riria williams

Hello Kundpung, Just informing you that I removed your PROD as the article Riria williams as it was tagged for deletion under CSD band after your PROD. If you wish to revert my edit, you are more than welcome. Thanks John F. Lewis (talk) 00:45, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

No problems with that:) I as just being cautious. I've now deleted it myself. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:50, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I informed you of my removal just so it would be deleted quicker. John F. Lewis (talk) 00:54, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

New page patrol

Hello kudpung, you recently put a message on my talk page asking me to think about PROD rather than simply tagging pages. Is it also ok to use {{afd}} in situations like the one you described? General info on when to use AFD would also be appreciated. Reply on my talk page please. Thanks, Passengerpigeon (talk) 01:25, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

AfD is fully described at WP:AfD. Generally we only use this as a last resort when other deletion processes have failed. One thing to bear in mind is that if a PROD has been removed without addressing the issue(s) and if the article does not meet any specific CSD criteria, then it may not be PRODed again so AfD is the next step. Hope this helps. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:35, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Wisconsin Valley Improvement Company

If you read the article, you will see that this company is responsible (in its charter) for maintaining the flow of the Wisconsin River throughout its length, and therefore affects every person on it. It is chartered by the state. It has important historic significance. This article is a far cry from merely trying to promote a band or game or startup, and I think your tag is misplaced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonwurl (talk • contribs) 01:33, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

The article must nevertheless fully conform to our criteria for companies at WP:ORG and be adequately referenced to multiple, reliable, independent, 3rd party sources that discuss it in depth.That means that it's historic importance must be asserted to be able maintain notability. Please sign your posts. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk)

Editor review

Hello, Kudpung. Nice to see you around. I was wondering if you do an editor review on me here using your knowledge. This might help too. This is totally optional of course. Thanks. -- Cheers, Riley 02:52, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Riley. I would be more than happy to do a review but the first hurdle is the access to your talk page archives. One you have fixed this I'll go ahead. Have a look at how I archive mine - most editors do it this way, or similar. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:59, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Done, sorry. -- Cheers, Riley 07:13, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Courtesy note

Hi Kudpung. I just wanted to thank you again for the heads up regarding my bot's signature. It took quite a while, but I eventually got to the bottom of it. Cheers, 28bytes (talk) 02:54, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

my maurizio saez page

instead of deletion why don't you help putting up info! It's my info and Im new to wiki trying to learn to use it. help me out instead of flaging it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DjxMau (talk • contribs) 00:57, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Maurizio Saez

help me here instead of deletion I want to add more info but need to learn this wiki, please google me "Maurizio Saez" and add info to my page thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by DjxMau (talk • contribs) 01:00, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

The article is about yourself - please do not promote yourself on Wikipedia. If you feel that there are reliable, independent sources that discuss you in depth in the established press, and assert your notability per WP:MUSICBIO, you are welcome to add them yourself. However, you must read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide first. Unfortunately, in my opinion however, it is unlikely that this article will be kept. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:11, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

maurizio saez page

Please help I don't understand coding and I want this to stay please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by DjxMau (talk • contribs) 01:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately this has nothing to do with coding. It's about you using Wikipedia to promote yourself as a musician. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:19, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

The creation of Bartrumella kaawaensis.

Thank you Kudpung, I appreciate complimentary on my creations.

To my disappointment, I searched everywhere over the Internet for references to provide in the creation of the article, hoping I would find some form of information from the World Register of Marine Species database (WoRMS), but to no avail could I obtain anything. Trying to accomplish a task like this is utterly taxing for such an isolated topic of interest, the Pyramidellidae family of gastropods. I am enjoying contributing my time to Wikipedia, I am assuming you are too, which is phenomenal in my words. Keep in contact and keep up the great work! Solo Toady (talk) 08:30, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions. However, all articles must be be referenced to a reliable source - Wikipedia cannot be responsible for being the only source of information available. We suggest making verifiable references to books if you can't find anything on the Internet. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:42, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Regarding your comments on my recent articles on DUVE Berlin and its represented artists

Hey, thanks for your concern about my articles.

Regarding the conflict of interest, the articles I've added are simply informational - and could definitly be interested for someone who wanted to check out the gallery on wiki - I'm afraid I don't understand the problem. How could there ever be any article about a single smaller gallery and it's artists on wiki if no-one takes it upon themself to add the articles? I simply don't understand how I could add these articles in a better way, I'm just trying to add articles within my field of knowladge - that was not yet on wiki until this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soneryd (talk • contribs) 13:50, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, it's not just my concern, it's the concern I represent for the Wikipedia community that our articles must meet certain clearly defined criteria for inclusion. I think you've summed it up quite well yourself: How could there ever be any article about a single smaller gallery and it's artists...? - the answer being that it's a small gallery that hasn't yet made enough impact on the art scene to have had dedicated articles about it in the established press or on TV - not even in Deutschland where especially in Berlin I happen to be quite familiar with the contemporary art scene from Charlottenburg to the traditional Kietze of Kreuzberg. I'm really sorry about this, but I don't see that your articles have a chance without such WP:Reliable Sources. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:01, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Pari Zanganeh

I added two more references for Pari Zanganeh. I guess these one are more reliable.Pouyakhani (talk) 16:27, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately the references supplied still fail to assert notability per WP:MUSICBIO, so I have no option but to tag the article for deletion. For more information please see WP:Reliable Sources for the kind of references required. You can still edit the article and provide more sources, but if they don't meet our criteria the article will be automatically deleted after 7 days. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:05, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Meg Myers

Thanks for your moderation. I have removed the deletion tag from the Meg Myers article because I believe she is a significant, up-and-coming artist. I do not know her personally, I am just a fan. I've included references to national and critical attention that she has received and discussed them on the talk page.

Please let me know if you feel that the article meets inclusion guidelines at this point.[User:Kemery720|Kemery720]] (talk) 18:05, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately the references supplied still fail to assert notability, so I have no option but to present the article for discussion by the community. For more information please see WP:Reliable Sources for the kind of references required. generally however, upcoming artists will not have accumulated significant dedicated articles about them in the established prtess. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:50, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi

Just wanted to say thanks for this message left on my talk page. Amazing how they expect us to be perfect all the time isn't it? :)--5 albert square (talk) 01:45, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

And the next thing you know will be they will be accusing us admins of operating some kind of cabal ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:00, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh we already do don't we. :P Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:17, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank You

Hi and Thank You for enabling my account as Rollbacker Greatuser (talk) 04:29, 15 December 2012‎

• Note that I have raised some issues with a large amount of Greatuser's reverts. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 09:27, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
• And I have raised an issue related to it here. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:13, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

All noted. Replying at TheoriginalSoni's talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:09, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Kudpung. You have new messages at TheOriginalSoni's talk page.
Message added 16:47, 15 December 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:47, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

A new page

You tagged List of Magnum pistol cartridges: as a dead end. I have removed the tag. Every line except the first in the article is (and was) a wikilink to another page in the project. Did you mean to tag it as an orphan instead? --Nouniquenames 21:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

It looks as if the page has already been deleted. Linking to other lists is not helpful, it's ot something a reader would probably look for. Adding links to it on articles about firearms and ammunition would be more helpful. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:43, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Bradley (automobile)

Hi Kudpung, Thanks for your message. What is the easiest way for me to add a country reference to the article? Asd36f (talk) 23:36, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

No reference needed - just see how I added 'USA' to the article :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:38, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm 5 albert square. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Andersson Jamal, and have un-reviewed it again. If you've got any questions, please ask me on my talk page. Thanks, 5 albert square

Wrong mouse click - sorry. I have been the only editor patrolling pages for the last 7 hours and 'm really trying to review the essential pages and those that need a speedy deletion. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:35, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I think that may have been me in error - wrong mouse click. Still trying to get used to the new way of reviewing these pages. I've reviewed it again--5 albert square (talk) 01:38, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, bit of a bugger if your're not used to the new interfacxe ;) Dunno how the newbs cope with it.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:45, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Mishae is autopatrolled?

I noticed Acroterion gave Mishae the autopatrolled right in January. I didn't know he had the right until I saw that you unpatrolled a page of his. He has some language issues and every once in a while there are some concerns with copyvio (see User talk:Ryan Vesey/Archive 18#Gomantong Myotis and Lesser Mouse-eared Bat and User talk:Ryan Vesey/Archive 18#Question) I haven't had a chance to go through his articles, but you might want to take a look at whether or not he should have it. On another note, what would you think about removing my autopatrolled flag? I don't make enough pages that I feel like it would be a burden and would like having at least one other person take a look at articles I create. Ryan Vesey 01:45, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm not in the slightest bit worried about your creations, Ryan. If you don't know what makes a decent page by now you never will ;) I will check out Mishae though - thanks for the heads up. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:51, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks from Saikatblogger

Thanks Kudpung. I think, by mistake, I created another copy; please check Manas chakraborty - can you please take care of this. I want to keep Manas Chakraborty only. Please suggest. I will take care of the references; will keep updating the page. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saikatblogger (talk • contribs) 04:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

 Done. In future when you want to change the name of an article, please see the instructions at WP:MOVE. And please sign your posts. Happy editing! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:49, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

The Centaur by José Saramago

Hi. The version of article that you tagged as unreferenced had a source at the references part. Can you please tell me what's wrong with that? Thanks. -- Meisam (talk) 06:41, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

The entire article is unreferenced and I don't honestly see it passing any criteria for notability. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:04, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Regarding proposed deletion of Posa Da Don

Hello! Thanks for reviewing the article Posa Da Don and I agree that it doesn't meet all the criteria of WP:Musicbio. Regards, NickAang 15:43, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome

Those last two sentences were just a bit too much. Otherwise his comments could have almost passed for constructive criticism. :-) Widr (talk) 22:02, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

And thanks for the barnstar! It's by far the coolest one I've had. Widr (talk) 22:22, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Poirier Productions

I had meant to tag that page with PROD, thanks for fixing it up. --Salimfadhley (talk) 00:46, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

PERM

Please don't revoke my rollbacker rights i really apologize I will use it properly sorry and please don't revoke Greatuser (talk) 14:02, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Along with Kudpung and a lot of other users, we will be watching your reverts for a bit. As multiple users said on your talk page, Rollback is a great tool and misusing it will get it removed. I agree with User:Thine Antique Pen that quite a few of your reverts were wrong. Just saying, be careful. Vacation^nine 14:31, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

OK, I have read page Rollbacking, Wikipedia:Vandalism and Vandalism and completely come to know about these all now please give me a chance to re-prove myself Greatuser (talk) 14:36, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

• I have raised some more issues. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 19:20, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Rollbacker

I am thankful and sorry that i somehow reverted in a wrong way but give me some time to re-prove myself as a good editor, Thank You Greatuser (talk) 14:46, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I don't think Kudpung or anyone said they would remove your privlidges. Kudpung only said that if you do anything of the sort again, they would be removed. Great to hear you read up on vandalism, and I trust you not to abuse your tools. You also don't need to post twice, Kudpung will reply when he can. Vacation^nine 14:49, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrolled status request

Hi, friend.

I located work by User:CWH in the new articles queue at it looks to me like this should be an auto-reviewed content creator. Would you kindly take a look at his work and extend him that courtesy if you feel it is merited? Looks like he's been around since 2006 and is contributing serious fare.

Thanks, —Tim //// Carrite (talk) 23:15, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:25, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

CWH has only created 26 articles. Admittedly there is some high quality there from a highly educated editor but there are many articles that are still tagged for issues that need to be addressed, especially referencing. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:45, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Drew (entertainer)‎

Please take a look at the article and tell me if there is any issue that might guarantee/require its deletion. Thank you, Mr T^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 17:21, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi. You have provided 24 references. However, not all of these are reliable or admissible. Notability is asserted when a subject has been discussed in depth multiple times in the established press. While the subject's own website or fleeting mentions on other web sites may add useful information, they probably do not assert notablity. YouTube references do not add notability as anyone can upload anything to it. Musicians/singers are generally regarded as notable if real discs (not downloads) have charted on a recognised national chart such as Billboard or NME and have been significantly aired on major TV and radio networks. Having been a contestant at X-Factor or (country's) Got Talent shows does not confer automatic notability. The notability guideline is at WP:MUSICBIO. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I didn't add any reference there. I did not create the article, I merely bumped into it and CSDed it. But then somebody contested it so I thought I better consult with you before deciding whether or not to go ahead with an AFD. Now, the question is should I AFD it? Or should I wait. What do you say? What would you have done? I am trying to learn the process. Will you help me here? Mr T^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 19:23, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you Kudpung, for reviewing my article.

Unfortunately, a stub template for the Eulimidae family of gastropods does not exist (yet) and I cannot categorize those articles without it. I am looking into perhaps organizing a stub template for that family though. Cheers, and happy editing! Solo Toady (talk) 02:28, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

You can place a generic {{Stub}} tag on the articles. The people at stub sorting are generally very good at finding a more appropriate stub. It's a very good idea though to also put the project template on the talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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Greatuser

See User talk:Greatuser#Reverts again. I haven't checked the ones from today, but there are more recent issues there. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 10:49, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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User:Greatuser

Hello there. I'm wondering if the competency issues are too much. They clearly are for vandalism patrol, but could we steer him toward some other productive area? I'm thinking maybe basic sourcing for unreferenced articles. Maybe removing spammy external links from articles? He could check to see if the links are blatantly selling something, and get rid of them. I managed to turn around one such user a few months ago, and now she's got 10k edits under her belt, all in the mainspace. She's a real workhorse. What do you think? I'd be happy to keep a couple of eye on him, if he's willing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:46, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Meta and admin areas are magnet to new and younger users for several reasons: they often lack the skill and/or knowledge to create new articles or to contribute substantial new content; and they are often not the perfect native English speakers they claim to be. I believe he has genuinely been editing in good faith but he fails to grasp the difference between what is vandalism and what is not, and that is almost certainly due to the cognitive level of his age, compounded by Western English with which I am sure he's not 100% familiar. He is very young and he admits that he finds the rules hard to follow and has announced his semi-retirement. I endorse his decision, and feel that he should concentrate more on his schoolwork and come back to Wikipedia when he is somewhat older - which I am sure he will do. We can mentor new users who have the capacity to learn, but helping them with their personal development is not within our remit. The most important thing is that he has been spared the tribulations of a trial at ANI or being blocked for WP:CIR. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:57, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. Maybe he'll come back in the future when he's better able. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:31, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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New page patrol query

I came across Origins of names of places in Etosha National Park on the course of my daily ramblings and I am not entirely sure if it should be there or not. I hope you don't mind providing a second opinion on it when you have the time. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 03:58, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

It's a difficult one I agree. My first impression would be OR but this is clearly not the case. Strictly speaking there should be no redlinked entries, and all the other claims should be referenced to confirm accuracy - I don't think notability is a concern because this is a list/almanac page. I would tag it for needing more references, tag as reviewed, and leave a friendly message for the creator. Keep it on your watchlist. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:12, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Sweet. Just one more thing that I noticed on WP:SAL. It says lists of words may well be more appropriate for Wiktionary. Now, I don't think Wiktionary is the place for this, but is there anywhere else where it could be more suitable? --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 05:31, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm not really sure about this because they are settlements rather than lexical items. You might get more expert advice from the Wikipedia:WikiProject Geography which also has several daughter projects which may give you a lead as to where to ask. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:41, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Awesome. I will see what advice I can get at Wikipedia:WikiProject Geography before continuing. Much obliged for the assistance :) --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 05:46, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Kudpung, If i am graduated from WP:CVU, then will you re-grant me the Rollback permission? Greatuser (talk) 09:38, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I will let another admin decide on that next time round. After graduating however, you will probably be expected to demonstrate a correct recognisition of what is vandalism and what is not vandalism fora while. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:35, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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If you have any time during your UK visit, let me know and I'll do my best to meet up. I'll see if any of the other usual suspects are available as well. Cheers, --RexxS (talk) 23:36, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I'll be able to get down to London or up to the northern counties, but I should certainly be able to manage something in the Midlands. Al the best for 2013 - Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:19, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Request for assistance

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I wonder whether I might enlist your assistance in a matter. I am an ex Journalist from New York, but British born and current resident. I have created a page on a CMS website that had been reported by a famous bank, the BBC and in use by a Cancer Charity, and therefore worthy of attention. The page was looked upon favourably already by another wikipedian, and together we have made a concerted effort to making it very readable, and useful.

However, another user who has already been noted for jumping to speedy conclusions to remove pages has nominated the page for deletion.

Whilst I can understand the motive for doing so, it is very hasty for the following reason: Since the software is non-commercial (i.e. it does not charge for its services) it does not require a 'powered by' slogan, nor branding of any kind and therefore has gone (in my opinion, unfairly) unnoticed for some time, despite it being growing significantly for over 5 years.

The user that has applied the tag is ; http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:FreeRangeFrog#Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FJumping_to_conclusions

and the page we would like to maintain is;

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Mixudo

If you would be so kind, I would greatly appreciate your assistance, as I believe my contributions are fair, unbiased and useful.

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M MarcelBrandon (talk) 12:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I understand your concerns. We here at Wikipedia also have concerns that some new-page patrollers may occasionally be somewhat hasty with their tagging for deletion. That said however, as an experienced admin and one who is in the forefront of attempts to maintain high standards of new-page reviewing, I feel that this particular nomination is justified according to the nominator's rationale. Because it's a community decision, WP:AfD is the fairest of all deletion process decisions and decided upon according to how a subject meets or does not meet our inclusion policies and guidelines. These rules are complex and comprise many pages of guidelines that cover (almost) all situations; the article Mixudo does not fall into any grey areas and is unambiguously covered by the requirements for notability of companies, organisation, and web content. However important a subject is or whatever impact it has had or is having on society and commerce, notability for Wikipedia is asserted by reliable, independent, high quality sources, that cover the subject in sufficient number, focus, and depth. There rules are often not known to, or fully understood by new users (which admittedly is a failing on our part) who create articles in good faith. Articles that fail to meet the requirements will be deleted until such times as they are able to comply.

Having discussed this with you, I will recuse myself from voting on the deletion debate or closing it in my capacity as an admin, but I am confident that the community will reach a consensus that will be in keeping with the current rules. Regards and best wishes for 2013. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:15, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Happy seven-year birthday on Wikipedia, according to the userbox on your userpage. I was just talking to Doug Taylor and he said that you joined Wikimedia UK, and this was his example for foreign participants in chapters. I hope you are well. I still intend to visit you someday! Happy new year. Blue Rasberry (talk) 01:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, not really foreign - just a Brit in exile ;) All the best for 2013 to you too BR. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:54, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Arctic Challenger

Greetings Kudpung, Thank you for your notice about the page on Arctic Challenger. I have updated the page with many references and citations and would appreciate a fresh view on the update to see if the information is up to standards. Kind regards, TJGuiton (talk) 08:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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