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Huma Qureshi (actress), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 15:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
DD and the GARs
Hi Prashant. Regarding your email, there is nothing much I or anyone else can do. Any editor can ask for a reassessment at any time so DD is within his rights to do so on those two articles. If he makes a habit of asking for reassessment of good articles that you've worked on, then that would be an issue, but it hasn't come to that as yet. My suggestion is that you leave a polite note at the reassessment that the articles have just passed a good article review and that the reassessment is unnecessary and then wait for a reviewer to take action. I know it can be frustrating but you should take heart from the fact that Dr. Blofeld is supporting you - that's worth something on Wikipedia! --regentspark (comment) 15:42, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
GARs
I would suggest that you implement all the comments that have been made on the 7 Khoon Maaf GAR (and the other one) ASAP, and say when they are done on the GAR page, so that there will be no excuse to delist them. BollyJeff | talk 23:47, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
- I suspect if he had not passed it easily, but had instead given you a really hard time, that you would have been upset about that too. I really don't understand why you guys are always so mad at each other. Just do your best and deal with what comes up in a calm manner. If you really are not enjoying being here, you can always leave. BollyJeff | talk 12:08, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, I think you were asking about Dharma rather than Gleek. Again, I have no idea why he seems to be targeting you, but it might help if you would try to be nice to everyone. I am tiring of seeing various forms of the word hypocrisy in your posts. Just try to let criticisms fall off you like water off a duck's back. BollyJeff | talk 17:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Here is what I did when someone reassessed one of my GA articles: Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Sholay/1. BollyJeff | talk 17:50, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, I think you were asking about Dharma rather than Gleek. Again, I have no idea why he seems to be targeting you, but it might help if you would try to be nice to everyone. I am tiring of seeing various forms of the word hypocrisy in your posts. Just try to let criticisms fall off you like water off a duck's back. BollyJeff | talk 17:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Barfi!
I just wrote what sources claimed and moreover, I already said there can be changes too. It was me who brought most of the sources in casting section after intense revisions over media. Its good you have worked out for better but I remember very well what I wrote and what I hadn't. Please don't unnecessarily try to pull credits and demean someone this way. I have contributed and I don't count whether it is 9, 10 or whatever number. That's not a bar.
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you gonna delete this section too?
You are the one who never learns. You do not own the article: WP:OWN. Most of his edits were good, and because he made one or two things you did not like, revert it all and tell him you know best? That is not right. BollyJeff | talk
- It's true that I do not know the whole history of the article, but I saw a lot of edits go in from him, and most of them were good. You should not have removed them all, only the bad ones. And then came all the ownership language from you. It does not matter if you wrote every single word; on wikipedia you still do not own it. Anyone should be free to edit at any time, as long as it is not vandalism or against policies. BollyJeff | talk 19:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Prashant, you've done a great job expanding this article but it concerns me greatly what you reverted. The changes, things like Supermodel decapitalising, beginning to structure production etc were good and an improvement. Please stop taking everything personally and reverting based on other editors being somehow deficient in ability. I myself have requested assistance from the league of copyeditors at times, doesn't mean anything, just that it's healthy for fresh eyes to look at articles. Generally having several pairs of eyes looking at this and copyediting is a good thing. Please don't let this deter you from continuing, but you do need to learn to work with editors here and see that changes are not necessarily negative ones. You overlooked their edits which were pretty much good ones to me which is worrying.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:40, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
The Good Article Barnstar
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I'm amazed to award you this barnstar for your contributions to Barfi!, which is now a good article. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 08:10, 20 May 2013 (UTC) |
- Tireless efforts are always recognised and appreciated sooner or the later. Thanks. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 11:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- I would love to do it, but will prefer to contribute to the article. Sadly, I'm not getting much time for myself like when I used to be a student. :( -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 11:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. Probably I would love to contribute to the article instead of reviewing it! I don't feel I'm that good at reviewing, and have never done so. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 12:21, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ohh well. That would be an awesome section. As the film name suggests it is Fashion industry related, but we would probably need to find more resources so that we can expand more than that! -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 12:29, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- Why should we forget about the drugs intake in the fashion industry?? :D -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 18:31, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ohh well. That would be an awesome section. As the film name suggests it is Fashion industry related, but we would probably need to find more resources so that we can expand more than that! -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 12:29, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. Probably I would love to contribute to the article instead of reviewing it! I don't feel I'm that good at reviewing, and have never done so. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 12:21, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- I would love to do it, but will prefer to contribute to the article. Sadly, I'm not getting much time for myself like when I used to be a student. :( -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 11:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
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Please help me regarding some pictures as I required for an article Aashiqui 2 . I want these All four posters from this free site All four posters. As one is abum artwork, others are posters. Please, upload these as I need them.And one this promotional event photo. Prashant! talk 16:03, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Phrashant! Unfortunately movie posters are generally covered by copyright of the studio that produced the movie, so they would have to be listed as a fair use image. Unfortunately on Wikipedia we have restrictions on what we are allowed to use non-free content for. And we must use it as infrequently as possible. For example, there is already a movie poster on the page, so it is unlikely that a proper rationale can be made to add another non-free image of a poster. --kelapstick(bainuu) 16:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- The website says "copyright 2012" at the bottom, so the posters are not free. You may be mistaking free to download with free of copyright. So no, you cannot download the posters to upload to the article. --kelapstick(bainuu) 16:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Did you see the OTRS tag in the middle, that means someone asked them to licence that specific photograph with an acceptable licence, it doesn't mean that all of their photographs have that licence. If you want to use them than you will have to go through the OTRS system for each picture you want done individually. If you do that, I would recommend uploading them at Commons. --kelapstick(bainuu) 17:05, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- I am not going to go to Commons and upload the pictures for you, and permission from the owner, and send it into OTRS. If you want the pictures, you can do that yourself. --kelapstick(bainuu) 17:17, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Did you see the OTRS tag in the middle, that means someone asked them to licence that specific photograph with an acceptable licence, it doesn't mean that all of their photographs have that licence. If you want to use them than you will have to go through the OTRS system for each picture you want done individually. If you do that, I would recommend uploading them at Commons. --kelapstick(bainuu) 17:05, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- The website says "copyright 2012" at the bottom, so the posters are not free. You may be mistaking free to download with free of copyright. So no, you cannot download the posters to upload to the article. --kelapstick(bainuu) 16:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Pictures
Pictures are not my strong suit, but you are usually only allowed one copyrighted picture per article. I already told you that I don't think the album cover on Fashion should be there. BollyJeff | talk 17:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Comments
Prashant don't take this the wrong way but I've removed the comments here and at ANI because asking an admin to look into the IP message is asking to get yourself blocked for what you said here which was bang out of order and far worse. Trust me on this, just let it lie and move on with editing. If you continue to get hounded by the IP let me know and I'll report it.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Your signature...
...current violates WP:SIG, as it uses excessively large font sizes that break the layout of talk pages. Here's a version of your signature that is compliant with the policy:
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Please update it to reflect these changes. Thanks! Theopolisme (talk) 14:00, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Re: your comments to Miniapolis
With regard to your comments to Miniapolis here, I don't believe editors should make allowances for your youth. You're old enough to understand that what you type can potentially upset and annoy other editors. If this is your idea of a spreading "love and brotherhood" you need to reconsider. If you seriously want to change your behaviour, try this. Next time you get angry at other users or IP editors, stop editing, take a deep breath, count to ten and think about what you're saying. If you're really steamed, take a break and walk away from the computer. There are no mastodons around here.We don't want to see you back at the drama boards. You're a normally constructive user whom nobody here wants to see sanctioned or blocked, but if you continue posting comments like this you're heading in that direction. In short—please calm down and think before posting! By the way, I'm replying here because Miniapolis has asked you not to post on her page any more.
I'll be happy to accept your copy-edit requests if nobody takes them before they reach the top. However, copy-editors aren't required to take the oldest requests, queue positions mean nothing and it's my choice to accept the oldest requests. Regards, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:03, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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I know that we have had issues in the past, but let bygones be bygones. You are an asset to Wikipedia, and I wish to collaborate with you on an article soon. Your recent edits have been brilliant, and I wish you all the best in your future endeavours. smarojit (buzz me) 12:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC) |
- Thank You.Prashant 14:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Wow, didn't see that one coming! Any ideas for articles you both really want to develop for GA? I'd be happy to help but I'll only GA review if I feel that the articles are adequate for GA., last time I looked Fashion (film) was a bit short on the production/ themes which I'd have expected of such a major film. I saw a Chopra interview yesterday and she's one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen for sure, those lips!!, and I love her personality which at times seems a bit cocky, but I think it's an act, she said herself that she's always been insecure.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:45, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmmm...collaboration? Maybe on Gadar Ek Prem Katha as the film is a milestone in Indian cinema and was the highest grossing film at the time of its release.Prashant 15:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, Priyanka Chopra is an absolutely wonderful actress. And I am so glad that we can be friends Prashant. I am sorry for my behaviour in the past, but now I have opened my eyes. I wish you all the best for Fashion. The article is shaping incredibly well, I am sure it will be a GA very soon and will be yet another feather on your cap. Let me know anytime if you need any help with Gadar or any other article. I know I am not that good with film related articles, but I can give it a try. --smarojit (buzz me) 15:11, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- You're too modest Smarojit! If you are interested in Gada Smarojit I think a good idea would be to brainstorm on the talk page for potential sources and what exactly needs to be done to get it up to GA level. I can help you find sources but you are both generally accomplished at that. But by planning it I think you'd avoid any potential disputes over content and could construct something very good together stage by stage which you both agree on. Chopra I can imagine she finds it difficult to make friends, women like her and Angelina Jolie generally have a very hard time of it I think as most women can't look at them without getting jealous! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:15, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you Blofeld, that is very nice of you. So Prashant, if you consent we can start working on Gadar. I can see that you are busy doing some incredible work with some great films like Fashion and Aashiqui 2. So we can start working whenever you are a little free. And yes, Priyanka is incredibly beautiful. In my opinion, the most beautiful in Bollywood today. :) --smarojit (buzz me) 15:19, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- You're too modest Smarojit! If you are interested in Gada Smarojit I think a good idea would be to brainstorm on the talk page for potential sources and what exactly needs to be done to get it up to GA level. I can help you find sources but you are both generally accomplished at that. But by planning it I think you'd avoid any potential disputes over content and could construct something very good together stage by stage which you both agree on. Chopra I can imagine she finds it difficult to make friends, women like her and Angelina Jolie generally have a very hard time of it I think as most women can't look at them without getting jealous! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:15, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, Priyanka Chopra is an absolutely wonderful actress. And I am so glad that we can be friends Prashant. I am sorry for my behaviour in the past, but now I have opened my eyes. I wish you all the best for Fashion. The article is shaping incredibly well, I am sure it will be a GA very soon and will be yet another feather on your cap. Let me know anytime if you need any help with Gadar or any other article. I know I am not that good with film related articles, but I can give it a try. --smarojit (buzz me) 15:11, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
I don't think so that you are not good at film article. You are very good at everything. I would love to collaborate with you. If you have any other article in mind. Then, we could work on it.Prashant 15:21, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've always thought Bipasha Basu is the "sexiest", but I think Chopra is possibly the most beautiful, she's a bit classier looking too I think.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you Prashant. You are so kind. I hope I could be more like you, but I will try from now. I will help you in whichever article you want to collaborate with me, and I promise to listen to you. Thank you so much again. :) --smarojit (buzz me) 15:26, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've always thought Bipasha Basu is the "sexiest", but I think Chopra is possibly the most beautiful, she's a bit classier looking too I think.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Well, Balan and Chopra are my favourite as performers. I'm eagerly waiting for Ghanchakkar. Promos are looking great and as usual Vidya is looking amazing. Smarojit, you don't have to do what I want as it was my immaturity and your as well to some extent. Remember, Wikipedia is about being neutral.Prashant 15:31, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Is it true that Basu has a "reputation" in India for being a bit slutty? I rather like her... ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:33, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I know I was very immature, but you have opened my eyes now. I will be neutral from now on and you won't have any issues with me. And Blofeld, Bipasha was just open about her love life and discussed it without any barriers, which is a good thing, right? :-)--smarojit (buzz me) 15:35, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Don't say that for Bipasha. She is a fab person looks wise and performance wise as well. Maybe because she is open minded. She don't keep dirt in her heart but she believes in saying it all.Prashant 15:41, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Prashant, he wasn't attacking Bipasha LOL. He was effectively saying that she is open-minded. Jeez, I only wanted to know what the media/public perception of her was in India.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:47, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
No, that was reply to your post as you called her slutty. I agree with smarojit. She is just very open.Prashant 15:52, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
I asked if she has a reputation for being a little slutty. I didn't say she was did I? I think User:Shshshsh said a while back she is frowned on by many for her sexual image and tight tops and things, I wondered if it was still really true.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think so. Bipasha's open, assertive nature might be misconstrued by some, but she definitely doesn't have a "sexual image" as such. Atleast, not when compared to her contemporaries. --smarojit (buzz me) 15:59, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Media hails her as "Sexiest woman" but, not slutty. She is a great actress as well. Her films like Raaz, Corporate, Race, Bachana Ae Haseeno and more recently Raaz 3 are some of the best. She is a head turner and a style icon.Prashant 16:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Haha, I had great time reading the conversation in this thread. Prashant and Smarojit profusely apologizing to each other, and contemplating on collaboration, and Dr Blofeld throwing interesting question/comments in between: cocky Chopra with curved lips, and slutty Basu! LoL!--Dwaipayan (talk) 01:11, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Re: Articles for FA
Hi! I think I am going to become very busy in real life from mid June onwards, and highly unlikely to retain the current wiki activity. So, I won't commit anything now. However, I would try to drop by sometimes, and maybe will be of some use.
Regarding themes and analysis in Barfi, if any material is available on those, definitely that should be included in such a section (even if the section is small). So, you can go ahead and start such a section. One thing that I learnt about such sections is (for FAC), most of the views would need in-text attribution to author/source (alongside usual reference formatting), because most of the discussion in theme are point of view of somebody.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:12, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- That's ok. Meanwhile I will try to have a look at the article, and do copyedits. If I have any question, will ask that in talk page.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:21, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Prashant!, I'm beginning the copy-edit you requested to the above article at the GOCE Request page. Please feel free to contact me, and to correct of revert my edits if I'm doing something I shouldn't. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:03, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- Done - feel free to contact me about any issues arising from the copy-edit. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:42, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Congrats on another GA, needed less work than I'd initially though but could still use more on filming.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:37, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Ya, I could use much in the filming. I'm hunting for the sources. I'll add when I get. Thanks for a quick review.Prashant 16:41, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Please do, I think you know what is required now. Before you nominate for GA again make sure the prose is really up to scratch and make a special effort to find production info, I'm sure you'd rather think that it is a sole effort than having editing help.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 17:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I know that the production details are very much important aspect of an article. If you could see Fashion, the production section is very large. Well, for idian articles it depends on the availability of sources. The media reporting in India is very much different. They report more link-ups and break-ups, rather than reporting development and production of films. That is very tiring to search and if the film is less publiced then, its hard to collect even 10 sources.Prashant 17:16, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
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Re:Your userpage!
Done: Removed ----Plea$ant 1623 ✉ 15:12, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
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Qureshi theatre
At least two article, the first one of India Today specially here (this link will not work for Internet Explorer) have some details on Qureshi's theatre background. If you encounter "specific" sourcing issues like this in Indian articles, you can inform me. I'll try to help. --Tito Dutta (talk • contributions • email) 08:05, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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Wow, an expansion to 57kb from 19kb for Fashion. Excellent work!! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC) |
I'll review Aashiqui 2 over the weekend. Offhand I'd remove those double posters, that would be fair use abuse, especially as it seems to replicate one already used.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:01, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Well, you've expanded the production as I suggested and at initial glance looks like it would pass GA fairly easily. Well done! Perhaps you could nom Fashion first and I'll review it, allow you some more time to expand Aashiqui a bit further?13:47, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Hokay.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:01, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Notable articles at Indian cinema task force
I see you have been actively involved in improving some of the articles categorized under WP:INCINE. Once you take them for PR, GA, FL or FA, including their reassessment, after the conclusion, you can add them as the notable articles here. - Vivvt (Talk) 15:49, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! I wasn't knowing that.:)Prashant 15:59, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. Mind you but you are not supposed to take any other editor's credit down saying one did not work before-after and otherwise. Same is applicable for everybody so no one would take your credit if applicable. - Vivvt (Talk) 16:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Ya! I know that. But, truth is truth and I work so hard on articles, so how could anyone share my credit? I work day and night and others try to take credit of it. I think it's unfair. Leave it. Well, you know when I see those GAR tags stick to my two articles (Ask Dharm, why he did it). It breaks me little bit as I was supposed to have a clean article history. Anything could be done to remove those tags? Prashant 16:21, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- We cannot do anything if one puts it as GA/FA article under their own userpages. And, IMO, it does not matter as well. However, under WP:INCINE, we can definitely try to give due credit to the contributors. Also, there is nothing can be done to take down those GARs, irrespective of its result. Btw, "sharing" your credit does not lessen your credit. Does it? I dont think so. If somebody does not give you due credit then its a different story altogether. - Vivvt (Talk) 17:36, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with you that sharing my credit doesn't lessen my credit. I told you leave all this na.Prashant 17:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Film collections
Film businesses for Indian cinemas are not transparent. So there are discrepancies between sources. So, while stating gross figures, especially the total figures, it might be wise to mention the source in the text.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:55, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
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Filmfare Award for Best Female Debut
Look at the article and the source .pdf There is one award, and it was a tie. You have to list both or it is misleading and unfair to Dutta. BollyJeff | talk 14:10, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- But, they didn't shared one award but were given two different awards. I removed from lead not need to mention in the lead. Its fine to have that info in articles body.Prashant 14:14, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- Two statues, but one award. Thanks for adding it back into the body. You are working on this again? BollyJeff | talk 14:31, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I have started the work on Chopra. It needs correction where it talks about her ex-secretary. As, it was her secretary who was threatening her and her family. Moreover, I think if we could work continuously for one week, then it may help the article. I have asked Dr. Blofeld also (waiting for his reply). Prashant 14:42, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- He seems to not want to touch this anymore; I don't know why. Remember that you must list both sides of the story (if it comes from reliable sources), whether you like it or not. I could definitely use help on HAHK, it has a loooong way to go; MEA too, I am trying to develop themes and historical accuracy sections, but it is going slowly. You have done a lot of good work lately; congratulations on your GAs. BollyJeff | talk 15:22, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not going to devote a week of my life LOL, but I can try to finish off what I intended later this week for a day maybe two.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:00, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
There you go again, removing all possible balance that you can get away with from Chopra's article. I am pretty sure it was Blofeld who added that stuff, but no matter; the world must know that she is perfection personified!!! BollyJeff | talk 15:02, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- You are misunderstanding me! I removed that part because in the previous line we said that her performance was highly acclaimed but in next line we added a mixed review. Well, Fashion is that film of her which is regarded as her best. If you go by counting, I have a review from Subhash K. Jha, Taran Adarsh, India Today,......all praises her so why certainly a negative review. Well if you can't see her negative reviews are very much there. Vista too have got some negative review for Paa and Kareena got for Jab we met. Do they exist in theirs articles. My point is Fashion is her turning point, so a negative performance can turn you into an actress? For your information, i myself added some negative reviews to her negative portrayals. You seem to have problem just because you can't even touch anyone's edit (someone like a veteran). Prashant 15:15, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Jeff, to remove the only negative review for that film in weight of the others looks like cherry picking. The article already has very few negative quotes. Please restore. Given Fashion's status, I don't see why we can't have more critical coverage of that film..♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Because Fashion is her life defining film, like Kal Ho Na Ho for Zinta, Dirty Picture for Balan and Jab we met for Kapoor. If you want negative reviews, I'll add 100 for her films like LS2050, Salaam-e-ishq and Barsaat. But, not fashion. For Bollyjeff, who has any negative review for her debut film....alll articles(of other actors) says this actor had showed promise. But, for Chopra we have added a negative review. Please, be neutral. Look here im going to add negative reviews where it needs.Prashant 16:03, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Please be neutral?? LOL I'm arguing the same thing, removing a negative quote from her life defining film especially affects neutrality.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:24, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
So, why there are no criticism on her roles such as Barsaat, LS2050, Salaam-e-ishq? But for Fashion. Means no negative review on her highly criticized roles but a negative review for her highly acclaimed film. No? Please, stop this discussion. I'm tired of this article. Then, I'll have to add some negative reviews on life changing films of actresses like Zinta, Vidya and Kapoor.Prashant 16:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- The answer should be obvious. Crap films do not get as much media coverage as good films do. If these other actresses articles are biased, then yes, they should be fixed, instead of making this one just as bad. BollyJeff | talk 16:49, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Fine, go ahead and do so, add as many negative quotes to Zinta and Kapoor as you like. I'm always open to negative quotes about any actress. In fact I often said to Shahid he didn't use enough of them. Tired of the article? You only said yesterday about spending a whole week on it, what a peculiar fellow you are! Have it your way, but I'm not going to collaborate with editors who affect the neutrality just because it was a major point of her career. And I'm sure Bollyjeff doesn't want to work with somebody who does so either. Good luck on promoting it to FA yourself!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- Done: I think you are right. I have added it. Well, I'll list you some notable sources Bollyjeff. Barsaat, Salaam-e-ishq were not crap films that you weren't able to found notable sources. I'll listed as many as required for any film. Just ask me once. I was also thinking that, we should use negative reviews for every film of hers to maintain the neutrality.Prashant 18:10, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, a good idea would be to find some reviews for each film and to balance it out with more negative quotes. Every film doens't need a counter quote, but the reviews given for each film should really genuinely reflect the general consensus towards them. Being accurate is most important, cherry picking only good reviews will stand out to others looking at it I think.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 18:26, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
We may have arguments on past, but lets move on and leave it on dust. You did a great job on Aashiqui 2, and I am amazed. Keep up the good work! --Plea$ant 1623 ✉ 15:36, 6 June 2013 (UTC) |
- Thanks.:)Prashant 04:54, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Diplomacy | |
Glad to see that you've renounced your earlier position. That's takes something. ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:16, 7 June 2013 (UTC) |
- Thank You so much for the barnstar. I appreciate it. That is my work Dr., as I have learnt that discussions are the best way to resolve issues. I understood that. Meanwhile, when you are planning to work on Chopra.Prashant 19:33, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Tomorrow I think, 2004-2010 I think I intend working on. Other than that I think its already quite close to FA standard. Make sure the reviews give a fair hearing though.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I'll provide you some sources which have criticism for her roles. I think this dispute was very important as look what has happened. We ended up being neutral, added some mixed review. I do feel that only 2004-2010 needs an expansion as everything is very close to FA and is enough. I'll correct those early life paragraph whose link I sent you.Prashant 19:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
If you're going to add negative quotes try not to add positive ones too otherwise it'll remain the same! We don't want quote soup of course and some quotes can be put in prose anyway..♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:22, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm happy for you to nominate it now, I think FA usually results in the more minor issues being sorted during it...♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- Do you think it's appropriate to nominate it now because Deaipayan told me that some work is still left. He wants to add more reviews to her films such as Aitraaz, Fashion, Kaminey, 7 Khoon Maaf and Barfi!. What's say, is he right? What? I should add more reviews to these films?Prashant 20:07, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
I'll wait until Dwai has finished.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:40, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
What's up?
...with your talk page? I tried to let you know I finished copyediting Fashion (film), but when I saved my post I ended up on your redirect page; my original post is in my contribs, but I can't find it on your talk page. Miniapolis 20:37, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- FWIW, I tried to send my first post by clicking on your "Leave me a message" link (which still links to Pks1142); the second time (which worked), I clicked on the new-section tab. Miniapolis 20:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- Me too. I'm not able to see your post. Ya that redirect problem. I'll fix it right know. Well, Thank you so much for the copy edit. Prashant 20:46, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- Glad to help; sorry it took so long. Good luck and all the best, Miniapolis 01:58, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
- Me too. I'm not able to see your post. Ya that redirect problem. I'll fix it right know. Well, Thank you so much for the copy edit. Prashant 20:46, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Re Chopra
I won't be able to do significant edits now onwards due to work in real life. You guys can go ahead as per your plans.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:28, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- But, only last section is left. Do it, it will only take 10 minutes. Do you also think more reviews should be added for her important films?Prashant 07:34, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Why are you removing HighBeam sources? What's wrong with them?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:04, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm not removing exactly, but replacing it with free notable sources as per fac. Not all I can find but, few of them could be replaced and I'm replacing them with those sources.—Prashant 10:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
The sources are normal, they just happen to be archived on a research site.. Who questioned the use of them because they're wrong about them not being acceptable.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:37, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
I replaced only four. I'm not able to find more. Ya, its not that acceptability. Leave it.—Prashant 10:49, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
What suggestions?
Where are these "as per Dwai's suggestions" that you are acting on? It's too much churn, again. BollyJeff | talk 15:39, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- He was concerned about adding more than one reviews only for her important films such as Aitraaz, Fashion, Kaminey, 7 Khoon Maaf and Barfi and I'm done with the edits.—Prashant 15:43, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- Don't you remember how too much editing during the review was one of the reasons for the first failure? Please let it rest now unless someone makes a comment on the FAC page. BollyJeff | talk 15:56, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think so that editing could fail any article. As I said, I'm done with the edits. Saw you reverted. It's not your article. I'm reverting it back. I'll not listen you everytime. That negative review could be there. Haha. You can't respect others work and their work. I'm throughout resolving issues and you are getting me down.—Prashant 16:01, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- I only reverted where you changed a quote to remove praise from Ranbir and leave for Priyanka only. Misleading, just like your trick with Dutta's award. BollyJeff | talk 16:07, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I just checked. Ya, I was not worried about sharing it with Ranbir. Hello it not says they are one performance. I thought people would question using ranbir's name. I'm fine with it. As, If that was my trick, i would have have added after editing out his name. No?—Prashant 16:12, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
FAC – Reflection
- As a reviewer for the above, and since the nomination has been archived, I thought I would offer my thoughts. Your shameless canvassing and frankly rude responses to Brianboulton, Crisco 1492 and Victoria , have been embarrassing to read. Although I feel sad about its non-promotion, I think GrahamColm has been right in not promoting it and for asking it to return in two weeks. But what really upsets me is the fact that my wonderful colleague Dr. Blofeld would be sitting at home now feeling quite upset at not having Chopra pass today. Dr. B is passionate about the articles he works on and exudes professionalism in all that he does for the project. He has created more articles than I care to count and I am always impressed with his knowledge on subjects that I have never even heard of. I cannot speak about Bollyjeff as I don't know him, but it can't be very easy for him either knowing that all his hard work has been ruined by your stupid behaviour.
- Chopra's non-promotion today has been nobody else's fault but your own, and I only hope that in two weeks time, you show more of a professional attitude towards the FAC process and to those reviewers who have taken the time to review your nomination. Crisco was absolutely right to expose you, and although I take on board the fact that you may not have been aware of the WP:CANVASS guideline, that does not excuse the rude and outrageous responses you have posted to my colleagues. I suggest you read up on a few FA archives and take note of the kind of approach one should take towards others when responding to comments, no matter how negative they are. I shall revisit in two weeks as I respect the article and the work that has gone into it, but if I get the slightest whiff of repetition from your quarter, I shall strike my support. Food for thought. -- CassiantoTalk 23:11, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Prashant, I'm beginning the copy-edit of the above article you requested at the GOCE Requests page. Please feel free to contact me, or to correct or revert my edits if necessary. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- Having just attributed and added quotation marks to all the quoted text in Themes and influences, I invite you to read and inwardly digest Wikipedia:Quotations. Basically, we use quotation marks to delineate quoted material, in the following manner: Fred Bloggs of the Daily Waffle said, "I think that Waterworld was a really good film". You've been a WP editor long enough to know this sort of thing. The Times of India quotation in the final paragraph needs a reference; there are several from that source in the article and I'm not searching them to find out where it came from. Annoyed, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
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