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double nomination at AfD
Well, Twinkle did it: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1914 Komagata Maru (2nd nomination). Not sure how to handle it. Would you please take a look at it? Thanks. —usernamekiran(talk) 12:57, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Usernamekiran: Deleted under CSD#G6. Katietalk 13:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. I was going to do delete it under the G6 too, but then I realised my toolbox is missing (again!). I didnt know how to take care of other stuff; so I contacted you, and Bishonen. Then I realised everything was in my contrib history. So I did this special:diff/827908107. Thanks again :) —usernamekiran(talk) 13:09, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
CU
Thanks for the quick work. There will be a little something extra in your pay packet this week. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:30, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Margot Robbie
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Only choice?
If others give you only one choice (and you sort of see that it's not a good one), how about you create a better one? I voted for you hoping you might. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:55, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I'm one of the infobox drafters, so I'm busy creating many difficult choices there through a headache that's giving me vision disturbances. I appreciate your support, but I don't appreciate your tone. Katietalk 23:47, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- I am sorry about your headaches and vision disturbances, and understand. English is not my first language, so please tell me what you found wrong in my "tone". I wrote in despair and hope. - Infoboxes could be simple. Just treat infoboxes like anything else, like images, tables, navboxes. I will never understand why "no infobox" is pursued with an intensity you sometimes find in religious movements. Don't treat the "believers" harshly, please. - Voceditenore put it best, here, March 2016, quote (bolding by me): "I personally think that as a matter of courtesy and prudence, one should [not] run the addition up the flag pole on a Featured Article first, regardless of which project has bannered it. But otherwise no, it's bureaucratic and a bloody waste of time to start a talk page discussion before adding any infobox anywhere on Wikipedia. It's no different to adding or removing any other content or formatting to an article. If someone adds an infobox and another editor thinks it's inappropriate they can revert and discuss. If someone removes a long-standing infobox and another editor thinks that's inappropriate they can revert and discuss. In both cases everyone can enjoy the ensuing snipe-fest. My strictly personal view is that if you know that an infobox has been a major bone of contention on an article in the last couple of years, or you know that the article's main editors intensely dislike them, no matter how irrational you think that is, then just leave it alone, because, well, getting along with your colleagues and avoiding snipe-fests is important too. Conversely, people might want to ask themselves... Is the addition of a simple, accurate infobox so horrific and of such cosmic importance to the future of Wikipedia that creating an uproar is called for?" - Perhaps that helps. I hope. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:13, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind thoughts. The headaches have been the bane of my existence for years, but I'm now having vision trouble with them, which is (among other symptoms I have) a hallmark of multiple sclerosis. I have to see a neurologist in four weeks. The brain fog is a little better today, and I'm hopeful it will continue to improve. That's the usual pattern, anyway.
- I took your tone as a bit snippy, telling me that I'm somehow not allowed to support the only remedy I could see that worked, and criticizing me for not quickly coming up with another one. I apologize for being snippy in return. There is now another remedy that I think might work with some tweaking, so I've changed the indef block to second choice. It's a committee for a reason. :-)
- As to infoboxes, I hear what you're saying. It's a work in progress, and I don't think anyone will be completely happy, but that's just the way it's going to be. It may slip a few days after the posted due date due to Worm's schedule and my brain, but we'll get it up. We simply can't pronounce policy by fiat, but we have a couple of ideas that might help. Katietalk 02:25, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking the time for explaining, and best wishes for your health! - I have not been blocked or banned, so don't know from experience if being banned would make me a better editor or not. (I guess rather not.) - I wrote the line "I am known for my dreams. How about amnesty?" in 2015, in my dangerous thoughts about arbitration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- I am sorry about your headaches and vision disturbances, and understand. English is not my first language, so please tell me what you found wrong in my "tone". I wrote in despair and hope. - Infoboxes could be simple. Just treat infoboxes like anything else, like images, tables, navboxes. I will never understand why "no infobox" is pursued with an intensity you sometimes find in religious movements. Don't treat the "believers" harshly, please. - Voceditenore put it best, here, March 2016, quote (bolding by me): "I personally think that as a matter of courtesy and prudence, one should [not] run the addition up the flag pole on a Featured Article first, regardless of which project has bannered it. But otherwise no, it's bureaucratic and a bloody waste of time to start a talk page discussion before adding any infobox anywhere on Wikipedia. It's no different to adding or removing any other content or formatting to an article. If someone adds an infobox and another editor thinks it's inappropriate they can revert and discuss. If someone removes a long-standing infobox and another editor thinks that's inappropriate they can revert and discuss. In both cases everyone can enjoy the ensuing snipe-fest. My strictly personal view is that if you know that an infobox has been a major bone of contention on an article in the last couple of years, or you know that the article's main editors intensely dislike them, no matter how irrational you think that is, then just leave it alone, because, well, getting along with your colleagues and avoiding snipe-fests is important too. Conversely, people might want to ask themselves... Is the addition of a simple, accurate infobox so horrific and of such cosmic importance to the future of Wikipedia that creating an uproar is called for?" - Perhaps that helps. I hope. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:13, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Bells of Beyond was played in concert today, anniversary of the death of my mother, and I will listen to Aus der Tiefen later, - the conductor said he will probably cry. - How is your health? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Bullying case from a group in Wikipedia ES (Spanish) in editing articles related to the Venezuelan presidential candidate Javier Bertucci
Respectfully, I have to contact a Wikipedia administrator, because I noticed a bullying on Wikipedia ES. The pages involve are in Spanish, but I'm adding translations Link. Here was what I wrote to the user in his English Common page (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Taichi), he blocked me Spanish page and I couldn't talk in his Spanish page because he put in place restrictions such as blocking me or requesting more than 50 edits to edit in his page. Please read his discussion page that will direct you to the other pages with translations in English. I can explain more as you request it from me. Thanks,--Edugraph (talk) 23:08, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Stoneman Douglas High School shooting
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Lighthouse and museum categories
Discussion here Is there anything to be done, or do we have to revert these one at a time? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:19, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- IMO, I think this is resolved. Phew. Glad that worked out! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:38, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
An Issue with IP Block
Hello Katie,
A new user (User:Seun alone), who participated in a Wikipedia workshop I coordinated is having an issue and I don't know how he should deal with it. He registered through Commons; now he's trying to login to Wikipedia, but an IP block which was done by you, is stopping the account login/creation. Can you grant IP block exempt, while the account hasn't even been linked yet? Or is the block stale and can be lifted? What needs to be done to get passed this hurdle? Cheers!--Jamie Tubers (talk) 14:33, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Jamie Tubers: I think you need a steward for this. @There'sNoTime: Can you help here? We can't do an IPBE if he's brand new, but if you think the IP block should be lifted, go ahead. Katietalk 17:30, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hey Katie/Jamie, I'll take a look
- TNT❤ 22:05, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hey Katie/Jamie, I'll take a look
- @Jamie Tubers: Could you get the user to email us using Special:EmailUser/Wikimedia Stewards? We'll need to know which IP they are currently using - TNT❤ 22:13, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you Katie and There'sNoTime I have told the user to send the mail. You should receive it before the end of the day. Thanks again!--Jamie Tubers (talk) 11:00, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hello There'sNoTime, have you seen the mail from the user? Is it sorted now?--Jamie Tubers (talk) 00:44, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive
G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:
- tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
- adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages
- updating the open tasks template on Milhist's task force pages
- creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various lists of missing articles.
As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.
The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the scope of military history will be considered eligible. This year, the Military history project would like to extend a specific welcome to members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red, and we would like to encourage all participants to consider working on helping to improve our coverage of women in the military. This is not the sole focus of the edit-a-thon, though, and there are aspects that hopefully will appeal to pretty much everyone.
The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 April and runs until 23:59 UTC on 30 April 2018. Those interested in participating can sign up here.
For the Milhist co-ordinators, AustralianRupert and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2018).
Administrator changes
331dot • Cordless Larry • ClueBot NG
Gogo Dodo • Pb30 • Sebastiankessel • Seicer • SoLando
Guideline and policy news
- Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
- Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
- The notability guideline for organizations and companies has been substantially rewritten following the closure of this request for comment. Among the changes, the guideline more clearly defines the sourcing requirements needed for organizations and companies to be considered notable.
- The six-month autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) ended on 14 March 2018. The post-trial research report has been published. A request for comment is now underway to determine whether the restrictions from ACTRIAL should be implemented permanently.
Technical news
- There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.
Arbitration
- The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.
Miscellaneous
- A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
- The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.
Please comment on Talk:Naomi Wu
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A plea
One of our children Harry Glackin is suffering from terminal cancer. His dream is to be famous unfortunately he has no time left. This is why we at the make a wish foundation are pleading you that you allow us to make a wiki page in his meomry and we request that you keep it up and not delete. This boy has met his idol Mark Hamil and he has a final wish to be famous. Please make this wish come through Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MakeawishAlan (talk • contribs) 15:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Books & Bytes - Issue 27
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Please comment on Talk:Sarah Paulson
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WikiCup 2018 May newsletter
The second round of the 2018 WikiCup has now finished. Most contestants who advanced to the next round scored upwards of 100 points, but two with just 10 points managed to scrape through into round 3. Our top scorers in the last round were:
Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with three featured articles
Iazyges, with nine good articles and lots of bonus points
Yashthepunisher, a first time contestant, with two featured lists
SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with seventeen good topic articles
Usernameunique, a first time contestant, with fourteen DYKs
Muboshgu, a seasoned competitor, with three ITNs and
Courcelles, another first time contestant, with twenty-seven GARs
So far contestants have achieved twelve featured articles between them and a splendid 124 good articles. Commendably, 326 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2018 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met; most of the GARs are fine, but a few have been a bit skimpy.
If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:10, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018).
Administrator changes
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- Chochopk • Coffee • Gryffindor • Jimp • Knowledge Seeker • Lankiveil • Peridon • Rjd0060
Guideline and policy news
- The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
- A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.
Technical news
- AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new
equals_to_anyfunction can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash. - When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
- The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
- There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.
- AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new
Arbitration
- The Arbitration Committee is seeking additional clerks to help with the arbitration process.
Obituaries
- Lankiveil (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.
IP range block a bit wide
Hey... I was looking over an unblock appeal at User talk:SoonSoo90, and it seems you blocked the range 180.191.64.0/18 as a web host, but the smaller range within it, 180.191.116.0/22, is apparently not a web host.
I don't know what IP addresses you were targeting originally. The range you blocked goes from 180.191.64.1 to 180.191.127.254. The range containing SoonSoo90's IP address is sort of in the middle, 180.191.116.1 to 180.191.119.254. Please consider splitting up the block to open that hole, if the original addresses you were targeting were outside of it. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:44, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Anachronist: I unblocked the range. We've got an LTA out of the Philippines whose name escapes me at the moment, and there's at least one webhost in that /18 that he's using. I can't target it right now, so we'll have to wait until he gets active again to refine it. He should be able to edit now – sorry for the trouble. :-) Katietalk 12:57, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. If it comes up again, please update WP:LTA as appropriate. The only entries in there that mention Philippines aren't in the context of IP addresses. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:44, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Ariana Grande discography
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Wiki Loves Food
Hello! After the successful pilot program by Wikimedia India in 2015, Wiki Loves Food (WLF) is happening again in 2018 and this year, it's going International. To make this event a grand success, your direction is key. Please sign up here as a volunteer to bring all the world's food to Wikimedia. Danidamiobi (talk) 08:51, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
I should welcome your comments at this appeal, please. Just Chilling (talk) 13:36, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Just Chilling: I commented though it's closed now; I also ran CU on another one of yours and returned it to your queue. :-) Katietalk 21:05, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for your helpful comments. Just Chilling (talk) 22:31, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
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your assistance please...
Hello, World's Lamest Critic wikistalked me for months, until they were finally indefinitely blocked for an unrelated matter. I continue to be the target of wikistalking with comments and edit summaries in an inflammatory style very similar to that WLC used, but from anonymous IP addresses.
I contacted another individual WLC targeted, and asked them if they were being wikistalked by anonymous IP addresses, since WLC was indefinitely blocked.
WLC left a comment, on Commons:User talk:Geo Swan, denying they were using anonymous IP addresses to evade their block. They claimed that Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Renamed user jC6jAXNBCg confirmed they were not a sockpuppet.
I mistakenly thought Kudpung had made the determination there, and asked them some questions. They promptly answered most of my questions. (Thanks!) And Bbb23 told me where to find the global checkuser policy. (Thanks!)
Kudpung thought it might have been you made the actual determination as to whether WLC had been abusing multiple wiki-IDs, and suggested I contact you.
- So, can you tell whether you were to the one who made the determination at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Renamed user jC6jAXNBCg?
- If so, can you remember whether you made that determination based solely on behavioral evidence, or whether a check-user was done?
- If you can't remember, but there is a way for you to look at the check-user log, would you mind doing that for me?
TThanksGeo Swan (talk) 21:35, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Geo Swan: I did run CU – you can tell yourself because there's
In progress on the page. I found that those accounts were technically unrelated, but that the clerks/patrolling admins needed to do a behavioral investigation. Many cases of sockpuppetry are actually meatpuppetry coordinated over several countries/continents, particularly in cases of undisclosed paid editing (though that's not what's going on here). I did not do the behavioral investigation myself. We generally do the technical evaluation, which typically takes between 30 and 60 minutes per case, and leave the behavioral part to others.
- I ran CU again just now and I can tell you that, based on his historical evidence, I do not believe WLC has evaded his block here at English. I could obviously be wrong, because CheckUser is not a perfect tool. I'm not permitted to tell you if a specific IP address is related to WLC. If you're still experiencing trouble, please contact us at arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org with details so we can discuss it with the WMF at our next monthly call. An alternative is to contact one of the stewards to ask for a global lock on the IPs who are harassing you, since you seem to be having trouble at Commons.
- I hope that helps. I'm not going to be here regularly until the last part of June, but I'll do what I can to assist. :-) Katietalk 12:00, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject World Rally
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User:KrakatoaKatie/CSD/Nathaniel Bar-Jonah
User:KrakatoaKatie/CSD/Nathaniel Bar-Jonah was listed in Category:Pages with templates in the wrong namespace. I temporarily remedied it a bit differently than I normally would have due to its special purpose in your User:KrakatoaKatie/CSD set of pages. You will likely want to adjust it further yourself. Warmest regards, — Godsy (TALKCONT) 05:35, 28 May 2018 (UTC)