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Persistence content removal
[edit]There is a persistent content removal at Kalaripayattu page. please note it Tagbw (talk) 11:16, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Kalaripayatu page vandalism
[edit]pls refrain from repeatedly adding such imaginary content.and for your information "Chekavas don't teach the nairs fencing" the caste situation prevalent at that time in kerala didnt allow such close contacts .Nairs were taught by fencing masters belonging to their own caste .Chekavars did have a great heritage of practicing kalari despite being avarnas and many of them were great fighters but they acted more as similar to gladiators who fought with each other in an ankam or a duel for solving disputes of "desavazhi"(nair chieftain ruling over a desam).The kalari training to avarna castes were imparted by castes called "kalari panicker" and "kaniyar"which are different from thiyya caste.Kalaripayatu was practiced by even muslims, syrian Christians and ezhavas.Ezhavas of south kerala who are same caste as thiyyas also practiced kalaripayatu specially in the odanad kingdom and many were great fighters like aratupuzha velayudha panicker.But majority of them were cultivators similar to the thiyyas of malabar.These avarna fighters had their own kalaris and majority of times were taught by"kalari panicker" or " kaniyan" caste.Pls refrain from starting such edit wars and promote wikipedia as free space to spread knowledge not propaganda. Abhinav129varma (talk) 19:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am not adding content. I would suggest you refrain from removing sourced content whose information falls under WP:VERIFY. The matters you are discussing were already extensively discussed on the talk page of the Kalaripayattu page a while back. Feel free to look at the logs to find it.
- All of the information you claim to be, “imaginary,” is backed up with a sourced citation.
- If you have other research or sources that can be cited to provide evidence of your claims, then please provide them here, or better yet, provide them on the talk page. Wikipedia does not accept unsourced claims, which falls under Wikipedia policy WP:NOR. Please provide sources which meet the qualifications of WP:VERIFY. Much work has been done to combat casteism, politically oriented censorship and religious extremism on the page to ensure that the page stays under Wikipedia policy WP:NPOV, including changes to language under WP:MOS.
- No one is promoting or deriding anyone on the page, and great effort has been taken to keep it that way. If you have such an impression, then I’m afraid that’s an issue with your perception of things, not the page.
- Also, you and another editor were the ones edit warring. Feel free to look up what edit warring is under WP:EDITWARRING. I did not violate WP:3RR.
- Please take any further issues to the talk page. Kalariwarrior (talk) 20:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Duarte Barbosa and other POV
[edit]The pro-Thiyya, anti-Nair sockpuppets are using Wikipedia as a platform for casteist propaganda. Duarte Barbosa makes no mention of Thiyyas—this is a fabricated claim added by these accounts. Earlier, these socks attempted to remove the content altogether. However, realizing its removal was unlikely, they shifted strategy, now attempting to insert Thiyya alongside Nair. Trying to rewrite history? By restoring their edits, you inadvertently validate historically inaccurate claims and allow these accounts to exploit you as a tool for their agenda.
Additionally, the content citing Hendrik van Rheede mentioning Chekavar fails verification against the given source. Furthermore, Wikipedia editors are not permitted to independently interpret historical sources, such as equating terms like siligos with Chekavar and fencing with kalaripayattu. This constitutes original research. Interpretations of historical texts must come from reliable third-party sources, such as historians or scholars, whose work can be cited. In the case of Barbosa, multiple scholars have already interpreted his writings as pertaining to Kalaripayattu. 117.230.83.75 (talk) 13:27, 28 November 2024 (UTC)