User talk:Justice1980
Sockpuppet investigation
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An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aceuswa, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community.
Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 23:03, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
May 2021
[edit] Hello, I'm SounderBruce. I wanted to let you know that some of your recent contributions have been reverted or removed because they seem to be defamatory or libellous. Take a look at our welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. SounderBruce 07:18, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
I (Justice1980) am reverting your revert (your recent contributions ) back. You are welcome to edit and improve the content. However, please do not remove the entire entry/section. That page [[1]]is for informing readers anti-Chinese sentiment incidents in the US. And readers are entitled to know the incident, follow the source links and make their own judgement. Those are all from highly reputable sources. Editorial piece, reporter piece from major newspapers in Washington. I do not want to engage into a meaningless revert war. That will be childish. You are entitled to have your own site and publish whatever meet your political views. However, Wikipedia is a public platform. Please respect others' work and opinions, and do not purge content that you disagree. That is also the spirit of Wikipedia. Thanks!
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Anti-Chinese sentiment in the United States. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. You must discuss and earn consensus for controversial changes that go against policies like WP:UNDUE and WP:NPOV. Wikipedia is not a place to push your agenda. SounderBruce 22:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, SounderBruce was the one started the editing war. Now he is accusing Justice1980 for the editing war? Let's look at the timeline here: SounderBruce initially reverted Aceuswa's edits at 09:43, 7 May 2021 , Justice1980 disagreed and reverted back with reasons at 05:07, 8 May 2021. SounderBruce then reverted Justice1980's reversion at 07:18, 8 May 2021. At that point,SounderBruce has knowingly reverted content on [[2]] twice in less than 24 hours. Justice1980 then reverted the content back with a polite message User_talk:SounderBruce#Responding_to_your_recent_revert. Who was the one at fault for starting and engaging the editing war?
Justice1980 suggested SounderBruce to edit the entry that he reverted instead of completely removing the historical incident. After all, major newspapers did cover the incident, which warrants its place on [[3]] page. Instead of editing the content, SounderBruce is now attempting to accuse Justice1980 for something that he himself is actually guilty of?
Your edits
[edit]Hi there. I just want to let you know that your edits were reverted because they were problematic. The article was on Anti-Chinese sentiment in the United States but your edits were mostly about a lack of Asian history month. This is WP:UNDUE for this article for reasons that I do not have time to go into. In addition, you seem to have added unsourced and poorly sourced information to the article. You also cited opinion pieces and failed to adhere to a neutral point of view. There are a lot of issues I have, but I am going to say that Firestar464's revert was justified. If you want to get this information on Wikipedia somewhere, read WP:NOR, WP:UNDUE, and WP:NPOV. Your information may be suitable somewhere else, but not this particular article. Thank you. Scorpions13256 (talk) 16:22, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
User:Justice1980 Response to User:Scorpions13256 : [[4]]
I have spent quit a lot of time researching anti-Chinese history in US.
Peri vs. Hall is a hallmark anti-Chinese incident. It set the stage for turning a blind eye on anti-Asian violence. Yet you support that from being removed by User:Firestar464?
And the 1850 anti-Chinese riot was the first anti-Chinese riot in US history. And you also backing User:Firestar464's removal of it?
We really have some anti-Chinese sentiment here!
Also, Wikipedia's spirit is to edit and improve, not to remove content that you dislike.
May 2021
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Justice1980 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I was going through the proper channel and making my case. Don't understand why my case is still pending yet you decided to permanently block me? Justice1980 (talk) 02:08, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I see no open cases where you are defending yourself. You are free to make a new unblock request if you specifically point to the open case. In general, unblock requests like this aren't appropriate, you need to address your inappropriate edits; see WP:GAB for more information. Yamla (talk) 12:28, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Note if you have indeed been violating WP:SOCK, there's basically nothing that can save you. Doing so means you have destroyed any possibility you are acting in good faith. So, you'll need to specifically address that, too. --Yamla (talk) 12:29, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
@Yamla: Thanks for pointing this one out. I did not violate the WP:SOCK. They did a check, and maybe re-check? They could not find proof. That was a false accusation. Blablubbs wanted me blocked indefinitely. user:Drmies denied that request, saying "geolocation makes it possible but I can't block on that alone. It will have to be done from behavior. “ They could not block me with the WP:SOCK reason. They blocked me for NOTHERE. Several of my last entries were bluntly removed by Firestar464. I discussed the situation with Firestar464’s mentor, Scorpions13256. After some explanations, he agreed, some of my entires should be kept on Anti-Chinese sentiment in the United States page. BTW, all my contributions to Wikipedia have been removed by Firestar464. I filed an edit waring complaint against SounderBruce and Firestar464, they got mad, and wanted to permanently block me. (Noted: They just recently closed my edit warring case citing I was blocked. They did not close the case due to investigation findings.) Here are my complaint against them ([1]: 1) The repeated pattern of user:SounderBruce revert twice followed by user:Firestar464 reverted the 3rd time. 2) SounderBruce reverted someone else' edits first, I reverted it back after SounderBruce's first attempt to revert and left comments. SounderBruce then ignored WP:BRD and reverted the second time. SounderBruce, who know the rules very well, should seek consensus, rather than bluntly revert the 2nd time. SounderBruce did not seek consensus, and knowingly ignored WP:BRD. Not only that, he enlisted Firestar464 to reverted the 3rd time. 3) The magical 1 minute gap between SounderBruce warned a user on 3PP rule and Firestar464 reverted on behalf of SounderBruce to SounderBruce's version [2]. 4) Firestar464 bluntly reverted all my edits back to SounderBruce’s version, without taking consideration of different entries and contributions I made to the Anti-Chinese sentiment in the United States page. Those are the entries that Scorpions13256 later agreed should stay on that page. Justice1980 (talk) 17:24, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- I reverted them because you are a sock. Also, please read CaptainEek's message on your master Aceuswa's talk page. WP:DISCORD communication is not considered canvassing, just so you know. Firestar464 (talk) 02:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- Firestar464, I actually don't think they're socks, just WP:MEAT. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 02:22, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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If all you want to do is rant, go somewhere else. I've reblocked you revoking talk page access. If you actually want to pursue getting unblocked, use the Wikipedia:Unblock Ticket Request System. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:11, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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- ^ https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:SounderBruce_and_User:Firestar464_reported_by_User:Justice1980_(Result:_Filer_blocked).
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