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Abishe (talk) 23:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! To you too! Johnadams11 (talk) 22:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Academic discussions
[edit]Thanks John for politely presenting to me perspectives that are different from my own. You have indicated that you enjoyed this discussion, so have I! Do you have experience/interest in any of the following:
- Alleged Israeli war crimes in Gaza
- Alleged Israeli intent to commit genocide in Gaza
- Comparisons between Israel and apartheid south Africa
- Hamas/Israeli use of human shields
These are all topics I'd like to discuss both on wikipedia, for the sake of improving articles, and possibly off wikipedia (say over email) for general interest.VR (Please ping on reply) 07:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vice regentHey VR. Thanks so much for the note, and again, for the good follow through on the bombardment article. My academic focus (MA) is on mid 20th Century, and the comparisons with Gaza is what got me interested in that particular article. I can get interested more broadly in Hamas/Israel, and am happy to help in any way I can, as I've enjoyed this process. For what it's worth, I think one of the more enduring stories of this conflict is one that as of now has been under-reported IMO: the micro-analysis of virtually every moment on social media. To my research, never before in the course of human conflict have we seen a global audience exposed to almost every military operation -- down to single sorties. If I have time I plan to write about this.
- In any event, my answer to you is that I am flattered by your asking, and I'm happy to help in any way I can. I look forward to working with you. Johnadams11 (talk) 14:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- For example, what do you think of Palestinian right of armed resistance? Would love some constructive criticism on that.VR (Please ping on reply) 20:18, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vice regent Hi VR. Thanks for asking. To be honest I'm not all that interested in this subject. I actually didn't know there was a debate about whether Palestinians have the "right" of armed resistance. I always thought that the basic debate (if any) was about the nature of that resistance.
- All that said, and sadly, this won't be helpful to you, it's curious to me that the entire first paragraph does not contain any citations that assert the basic premise of the article. I am reminded of the WP:SYNTH notion you introduced me to.
- I also have the opinion, now having clicked through to the Right to Resist article, that these two articles, at least in basic conceit, seem to be extremely similar. As a result, I end up feeling the hand of a broader interest in advocating for Palestinian causes. I may be wrong as I definitely do not have enough data on whether or not a similar number of similar articles appear for similar conflicts. Johnadams11 (talk) 04:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's fair. WP:LEAD don't require citations, as the idea is that all that content must exist in the body and be cited there. At the same time, it would be good if you brought up any issues at Talk:Palestinian right of armed resistance. But I also understand if you're not that interested.VR (Please ping on reply) 08:26, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vice regent Ah. Interesting. Thanks for teaching me that about citation requirements in the lead. That understood, I do think the lead is meaningfully improved by using one of the later citations (like this one) in the first sentence. As it is, I think the nature of the reaction I had in reading it the first time is some puzzlement over why exactly this topic is notable. The citation would have assisted greatly IMO. Johnadams11 (talk) 16:36, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Can you be WP:BOLD and make that edit? :-) VR (Please ping on reply) 15:51, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vice regent I'd be happy to, but regrettably, I lack the status required. Thanks very much however for familiarizing me with WP:BOLD. This is very helpful guidance. I see now that in the interest of consensus I've sometimes been too timorous. Thanks again. Johnadams11 (talk) 16:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh I see! I didn't realize that.VR (Please ping on reply) 16:48, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vice regent Oh I thought you would have inferred this from the fact that I was requesting EC edits on that other article. Hey -- with respect to that article Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip, when you have a chance, can you link me to the discussion where the infobox template was changed from the one for example used in the Dresden, Hamburg, and London bombardments? Sorry to be so focused on one thing. It's a focus area for me. Johnadams11 (talk) 17:23, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Johnadams11 I'm not sure ever having seen that discussion. You can search the archives or look at the talk page's history.VR (Please ping on reply) 23:38, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vice regent Oh I thought you would have inferred this from the fact that I was requesting EC edits on that other article. Hey -- with respect to that article Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip, when you have a chance, can you link me to the discussion where the infobox template was changed from the one for example used in the Dresden, Hamburg, and London bombardments? Sorry to be so focused on one thing. It's a focus area for me. Johnadams11 (talk) 17:23, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh I see! I didn't realize that.VR (Please ping on reply) 16:48, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vice regent I'd be happy to, but regrettably, I lack the status required. Thanks very much however for familiarizing me with WP:BOLD. This is very helpful guidance. I see now that in the interest of consensus I've sometimes been too timorous. Thanks again. Johnadams11 (talk) 16:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Can you be WP:BOLD and make that edit? :-) VR (Please ping on reply) 15:51, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vice regent Ah. Interesting. Thanks for teaching me that about citation requirements in the lead. That understood, I do think the lead is meaningfully improved by using one of the later citations (like this one) in the first sentence. As it is, I think the nature of the reaction I had in reading it the first time is some puzzlement over why exactly this topic is notable. The citation would have assisted greatly IMO. Johnadams11 (talk) 16:36, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's fair. WP:LEAD don't require citations, as the idea is that all that content must exist in the body and be cited there. At the same time, it would be good if you brought up any issues at Talk:Palestinian right of armed resistance. But I also understand if you're not that interested.VR (Please ping on reply) 08:26, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- For example, what do you think of Palestinian right of armed resistance? Would love some constructive criticism on that.VR (Please ping on reply) 20:18, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Re[1], sorry sometimes I get busy.VR (Please ping on reply) 20:18, 10 January 2025 (UTC)